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Let's kick-start the weekend with a menu of magnificent

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I'm Matt Tebbutt and this is Saturday Kitchen Live!

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Live in the studio today one of the most

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admired chefs in the country and he's just opened

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a new restaurant, the brilliant Phil Howard.

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And the award-winning chef that truly embodies the taste of Norfolk!

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It's the one and only Galton Blackiston!

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WithThai green emulsion Good morning, guys.

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How are you? Good. Good.

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Phil, you are Kooikerhondjing first, what are you doing? I'm cooking a

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simple, warm salad of sprouting broccoli, morels and duck eggs with

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cashew milk and almonds. Well, that looks beautiful. Simple

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and different to what I associate your cooking with? It is simple, a

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new chapter, a new me. So it is different.

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Galton, what about you? I'm doing squid ink-battered halibut withThai

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green emulsion. It looks like a lump of coal! Behave

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yourself! Inside it is going to taste really good.

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That is modern for you? Where does he get this from, he thinks I'm not

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modern. I'm loving the jumpers, by the way.

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We've got some great foodie films from Rick Stein, The Hairy Bikers,

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Our special guest today is a TV presenter and Radio DJ.

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She's currently swapping her microphone for her dancing shoes

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as she prepares to take part in an 80's danceathon

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for Comic Relief, and she's here to help me bake

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for 'The Saturday Kitchen Take The Biscuit Challenge' too,

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Morning, Sara! Sara Cox, that is formalment danceathon? Yes, dancing

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for 24 hours. Who is doing that? She must be mad. Oh, my God, it's me.

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Are you excited? I'm red. Bring it on. I've been training for a couple

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of months. Going to the Brits. Dancing well. Doing my spray tan.

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Are you dressing in the '80s style? Yes.

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I'm going to be dancing, and dressed in style but by the end of the 24

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hours, I think I will be like, whatever.

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You are doing costume changes? Yes. It will be brilliant. A lot of fun

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but it will be hard but lots of fun as it is for Comic Relief.

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And you're helping me bake biscuits for red nose day too?

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Yes! That will be fun for me! I grew up listening to you, it feels

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bizarre I'm now cooking with you on a Saturday morning.

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. Who would have thought it?! And you love food.

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So we are also doing heavy and hell. So what is your heaven? That is

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clams and razor clams. Was it easy to zone in on the hell?

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Well, it wasn't that easy but I'm I've not got a sweet tooth. Strong

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flavour, anything with coffee in it. A dessert.

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Lemon and orange cake. Horrible. It is like you have sprayed kitchen

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cleaner while eating a Victoria sponge. The whiff of citrus, I don't

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like it at all. So, it is clams or coffee? Yes.

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at the end of the show, heaven or your food hell

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for your food heaven I am going to make you a clam and chorizo bake

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I'll saute clams with garlic, chilli and wine then add fresh pak choi.

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I'll grill the razor clams and the chorizo together and then

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I'll serve everything along with some soft shell crab

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and finally garnish with fried basil leaves and aubergine tempura.

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Brit. I always have an aubergine lurking in the bottom of my fridge.

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I never know what to do with it, so that sounds great. Lovely.

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But if hell gets the vote, I'll make a coffee flavoured dessert -

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tiramisu roulade cake First I'll add almonds,

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coffee essence and ground coffee to some whisked egg whites and sugar

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and bake until set then sprinkle with marsala.

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I'll make a filling of mascarpone cream, sugar and then sprinkle

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the cake with coffee and cocoa powder.

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I think that is lovely. Can I appeal to the nation.

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It is retro. These boys like it! My pastel mates!

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But you'll have to wait until the end of the show to find

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If you'd like the chance to ask any of us a question today then call:

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And if we get to speak to you, I'll ask

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you if Sara should have her food heaven or her food hell.

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But if you're watching us on catch up then please don't ring

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You can also get in touch through social media

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Right, we are doing everything from start to finish right here and live.

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OK! So, if you can make the dressing. We will blanch the

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broccoli, thinly slice the mushroom, and dress it with the pickles and

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the soft boiled duck egg. Make this lovely cashew milk. And tress it in

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that. And it is using the lovely sprouting broccoli.

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You have put this on a par to asparagus? Yes. It is pure, it's

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tender, it's delicious. So if you can whisk up the dressing.

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A classical vinaigrette. Tanguy and finally slice that on the Mandarin

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and brush it or drizzle it with the vinaigrette.

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I will make the cashew nuts, soaked with water but we are going to blend

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them. And you are making this cashew

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cream? It is basically like trying to replace mayonnaise or a rich

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dressing with something that is dairy-free, full of flavour and

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delicious. I will disappear behind this noise for a second.

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Go for it. The duck eggs, we are going to soft

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boil. They are in for five minutes. Somebody on Twitter is asking if you

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boys are intentionally wearing the Irish flag? To be fair, mine is a St

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Patrick's day hangover! Is that right? You're a massive fan?

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Massive. So, Phil, this style of cooking is a

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big departure from your original expensive, elaborate two-star

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cooking? Now it is vegan? It is a mainly vegan dish. I spent some time

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detoxing, and it has given me an insight into food I had not thought

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about. And the reality is that I like to deliver food that is

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pleasure. In my opinion, apart from a few superhot sunny day, pleasure

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is delivered by having richness in the food. It must be there.

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So that was a big deal for you, a big change? It was a big deal. I

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cooked with no food, in as much as no sugar, no dairy, no alcohol. Lots

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of things I had not thought about before.

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How is it going down? Very well. There are people out there with all

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sorts of different allegations, it is nice to have things that people

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are comfortable eating. And the new restaurant, it is on

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Elston Street? Yes. Is it changing? We are in the

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business of consistently changing the food.

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It keeps it fresh. I will trim the stems of the

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broccoli, they can be on the tough side.

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How do you sell it? Is it the fresh flavours? It is food that I hope

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people walk out of the door thinking that was a seriously good meal. But

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it is less complicated. Less technical. There is more emphasis on

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the vegetable. We do have beef on the menu but it is covering more of

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the vegetable, and it is informal. There are no table cloths, no

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canapes it is very comfortable. We are taking things in their prime

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in terms of seasonality so that they are at their very best and delicious

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and presents itself in a way that allows people to indulge in them.

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That is how I like it. If you want to sit and indulge in the ingredient

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as it is given the presence on the plate it should have.

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OK. So we are blanching the brack leap, the duck eggs are boiling.

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The morels, these are massive. They are beautiful.

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. These are coming into season. This time of year is great to be

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cooking it is special. We have been sitting there with

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celeriac, parsnips, turnips for months and suddenly the mushroom,

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the morels, the rhubarb appears and it is lovely to indulge. It is one

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of the months that gets exciting after January and February.

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It does get a little tired after a while.

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And you see that, to me, I can feel it.

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Clearly the vegetables are doing it for you.

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If you'd like to ask a question then give us a ring now on:

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Calls are charged at your standard network rate.

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I'm trying not to burn the pans. I reckon that these have had five

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minutes. Four minutes on the eggs. Are you OK

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with that? Yeah. OK maybe a little longer.

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Do you expect people coming to the restaurant expecting Square style

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food? There is some of that. It was about serving food that gives great

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pleasure and there is still a lot of that. But it is not as luxurious and

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as decadent. But I think the truth is that it is

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about variety. At the very end of The Square, with the last few years,

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with the preference of what people eat, the reality in the kitchen, on

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a busy Saturday night it was about dealing with the demands of your

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guests. Which is fine. People have the right if they don't want gluten,

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carbohydrates or salt. But that is hard work. So Elliston sump Street

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is about offering the different choicesed and the reality is that I

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am happily cooking and it has made a difference.

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So, the morels? They must be cooked slowly. You have to coax the flavour

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out by sauteing them in the little bit of butter and garlic.

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So, these can be notoriously gritty? They can be. You have to wash them.

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Aing? Egg, be kind to us. Do you need the mushroom sliced?

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Yes, nice and thinly. And the morel is about the seasonal fresh mushroom

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with bundles of flavour. That is a cultivated mushroom, it has no

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flavour but that's not the point, it will absorb the vinaigrette and

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bring acidity to the dish in this amazing texture.

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The only thing we had to do was to give a few of those a little bit of

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time to sit. But they are firm. They will not

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fall apart. But they are slippery. It is the most fantastic texture.

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So lay them out and drizzle them with vinaigrette? Yes.

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Is it important to let them sit? Yes, for ten minutes is fine. They

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are carrying the flavour of the vinaigrette. This is mellow. There

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is no acidity in there. This is also very mellow. So somewhere you need

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something that just has to lift the dish.

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Right, let's get it on. So, this is a proper, realtime dish?

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And this is a new thing? Before it was more elaborate cooking at the

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old restaurant? Yes. But I do enjoy simpler food.

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So, these need to go... I'm surprised that a guy of your calibre

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using this sort of cultivated mushroom? Well, the thing is that

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they are playing a role. I can't explain why but that doesn't work

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with that. This is the mushroom... This is absolutely... Look at that,

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that's magic. Beautiful.

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So these are very expensive but well worth it? Yes, they are, absolutely

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worth the investment. There is the egg and the dressing. That is

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effectively nuts and water. It looks like it has tonnes of oil. But it is

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bringing a richness to the dish without any dairy. And it is an

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appropriate flavour. And smooth.

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. It is very special. With the amount of nuts that were in

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it, it more than what you buy in a supermarket? Yes but that goes a

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long way. Here for texture a few more nuts.

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What is that? That is warm salad of sprouting broccoli, morels and duck

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eggs with cashew milk and almonds. Beautiful. First this, Sara Cox. A

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litre of almond milk will have an average two or almonds in it. Try

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that. Amazing. Talking. I am going to. Can you pop in to Radio 2 on

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Monday and with this up? People on Twitter say those mushrooms looked

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like hedgehogs. Can't deny that. If you need the right things, it is

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amazing how much they do give you the energy. I crave sugar. You have

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a handful of nuts and dried apricots when you're tired, it does the

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trick. Well, Phil's sublime salad needs

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a wine to go with it, so we sent Sam Caporn to Wakefield

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to make her choices, but not before she had a look around

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the local sculpture park! Before we head into Wakefield for

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this week's wines, I have, go to the nearby sculpture Park. Let's take a

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look around. -- I have come to the nearby sculpture Park.

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Wow! This is a salad that looks and tastes exquisite. It is deceptively

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complex with mushrooms, eggs and nuts. A wind that can more than cold

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is this one. -- or wine. I felt the salad was crying out for some phase.

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Taste the Difference vintage Cava is just the difference. Sparkling wine

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tends to be produced in a tank like per cycle, so you get fresh notes

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like apricots or peach. Or it is produced in a bottle. These create

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more complex savoury characters. This vintage Cava is made in that

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traditional method, the same way as champagne. This backed -- it is

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backed with the notes that goes so well with this dish. You get a

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savoury Marussia note from the great and the firmament. That goes well

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with those mushrooms. It marries with the crunchy broccoli and also

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cuts through those delicious creamy eggs are leaving the palate panting

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for more. I hope you find this pairing as joyful as I did. Cheers!

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Crisp, acidic, refreshing. What do you think? Yes, I am a nondrinker.

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But I can smell it. It needs something crisp and clean. It is

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mellow, it is luxurious and is -- in its own vegetable kind of way. Not

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tasted it. I have had a quick sniff. Should I have a tiny little taste?

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Of course. How was the dish? It was gorgeous. I didn't know when I

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should have stopped wolfing down! I have to get ready for Monday. I just

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have to keep eating. I have to say, I was surprised when the sparkling

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came on. It's very clean, it's very crisp and it does work with it.

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Would I choose it? I don't know. Galton, you're cooking for us

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shortly, what are you doing? Galton, you're cooking for us

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I am going to make squid-ink-battered halibut,

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Thai green emulsion. And there's still

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time for you at home to ask us a question,

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just call: Or you can tweet us a question

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using the hashtag #saturdaykitchen. Time now to join Rick Stein's

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on his Far East adventure! He's heading to Phuket and samples

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the traditional Tom Yung soup I caught the train to go further

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south, heading for a Phuket. The all-too-familiar holiday destination

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for so many people. The train goes past mile upon mile of green paddies

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dotted with sugar palms, and the landscape is much more lush than it

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was after leading -- leaving Bangkok. This is my stop. I spent

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the night on that train and I was woken up by the porters serving tea

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sweetened with condensed milk. Very comforting. I was met by my new

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interpreter. Good morning. Did you have something to eat? I only had

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some tea. We can have some local food. Chicken rice. That sounds

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good. I am very hungry. That would be great.

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Can we have some chicken rice? I'm always interested in breakfast

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around the world because it varies so much from country to country,

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culture to culture. After all, they say it is the most important meal of

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the day. This chick and has been simmered in a light broth. This

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chicken rice is wonderful. I woke up in the middle of the night on the

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train and thought, I probably had a bit too much to drink. I had intense

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heat in my stomach. I thought, do they eat chilly all the time? Total

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has just said for breakfast they don't like anything too hot. This is

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just perfect for 8-ender stomach. Do you ever have bred or toast for

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breakfast? No. Noodles maybe. Usually people eat lunch or dinner.

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This is very popular. Not too much chilly.

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I mention Thailand's most famous dish, the hot soup. Total took me to

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see how it was really made. First we gathered oyster mushrooms. I'm very

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accident prone. I'm always banging my head. They said to come and see

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the mushrooms. But I had to go down this long dark bit. I didn't see the

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beam. Thai people are quite small. Oh dear! I was really suffering from

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lack of sleep. That is what caused it. I was up all night on the

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rickety old train. What a chump. So they started by preparing mushrooms

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and making coconut milk by adding water to freshly grated coconut and

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squeezing it. This soup is notoriously hard. And I'm a little

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bit concerned about the number of chilly is going in. About 25. That

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has grown to be terribly hard. For Thai people it is simple. Next they

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chop, lemongrass, and quite a few lines. This gets put into a stock

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made with water and coconut milk. She is just putting some sugar in.

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I'm fascinated by this. You can read the recipes. I still can't get its!

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Now for some salt. Chopped spring onions, coriander leaves and all

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those chillis. By the way, it means to boil. The thing that really is

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impressing me is how much of everything is in there. 25 chillis

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for a start. Probably a kilogram of prawns. This is probably 45 or six

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people. Loads of tomatoes, mushrooms, lines, coriander. You get

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these recipes back in the UK and they say, one lime, four ounces. 100

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grams of mushrooms. This is just bang, bang, bang. When you tasted,

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it has got such a great deep flavour. What you saw going in a few

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moments ago was a roasted chilli paste and not for the faint-hearted.

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It gives the dish three things. It's heat, depth of colour and flavour.

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The ladies add tomatoes, coriander, spring onions and lime juice. A

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quick taste determines the need for some more fish sauce. I am now

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beginning to understand why it is so highly regarded as an icon of Thai

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cuisine. To give the soup an extra touch of luxury, the first pressing

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of the coconut milk is added. I couldn't have hoped to taste this

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Soudani were better than with this family of farmers, when growing most

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of the essential ingredients plays a large part in their livelihoods. It

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is really good. Absolutely. Very good. Very good. It has enormous

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depth of flavour. It is fantastically sour, fantastically

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hot. But very impressed at tasting stuff all the time like that. Always

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telling my chef, use your taste. Lots of chefs never taste things.

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They are tasting things all the time to make sure the seasoning is right.

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Beautiful soup. And there's more food inspiration

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from him in Thailand next week. Time now for the 'Saturday Kitchen

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Take the Biscuit Challenge' We're encouraging you to get

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involved by organising a bake sale. Sara's here to tell us about it

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while we show you another We have had peanut butter cookies,

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chocolate chip cookies. Today we are doing and are ready biscuits. It has

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booze in it, has it? I love a handful of almonds. I'm not big on

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them being put into biscuits. I am trying to politely say, no, I don't

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like these! These are the nice soft ones. They are not the ones that

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break your teeth. No. I like them. Do you like them? Love them! You are

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on your own. We need to separate the eggs. You just need the whites.

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Leave the yolks aside. How else can people get involved in fundraising?

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It is all about Monday. It is all about Monday. I would love people's

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support. I will be awkwardly dancing for a 24-hour is. It is 9:30am on

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Monday. It will kick off on BBC Radio 12. If you put on the telly

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and any BBC TV channel and press your Red Button, we will magically

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appear. Whenever we press play on a record, all 1980s, the video for

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that song will appear magically on the Red Button and I will be in a

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little box in the corner of the screen dancing away. For 24-hours. I

:29:14.:29:19.

don't think you can have enough 80s music. There is a lot to choose from

:29:20.:29:30.

in the world of 80s music. Gosh! We thought it would be quite a nice

:29:31.:29:34.

theme for me to be dancing to. There are a lot of good genres I can get

:29:35.:29:42.

involved with. Not this! That is almond essence. Put a slug of that

:29:43.:29:50.

in. That is strong. There is no booze in this. I have got lots of

:29:51.:29:57.

80s pop stars coming in to sing for me. Some stars West End shows. You

:29:58.:30:04.

have got 80s stars? Will have you got? Have you got Carol Decker? We

:30:05.:30:11.

have got Marc Almond. We have a theme developing! Carol Decker will

:30:12.:30:15.

pop in as well. Loads of surprise guests. Spandau Ballet may pop in.

:30:16.:30:17.

Clare Grogan. Am I pulsing? You need to.

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Right, there you go. Right, Clare Grogan?! Yeah. I loved

:30:36.:30:46.

that one. I could be happy. Basically, I love to dance. This is

:30:47.:30:50.

what it's going to be like! There's going to be lots of this You see I

:30:51.:30:57.

just have to get used to it, it is slightly awkward. I hate dancing!

:30:58.:31:05.

Oh, give over! Give it a go. It is great.

:31:06.:31:11.

If you have a daughter, they have a Barbie doll, they pull the legs off,

:31:12.:31:16.

and you put them back on, they are never quite the same, that is what

:31:17.:31:21.

my limbs are like. They have been taken off and put on and never work

:31:22.:31:25.

quite right. So, that is what I have, really.

:31:26.:31:35.

This is really sticky?! It is. But add some flour here.

:31:36.:31:39.

Roll it out. This is great. I'm inhaling a lot of

:31:40.:31:45.

this, is this bad for me?! No, it's fine.

:31:46.:31:50.

So, how else can people get involved at home?

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Either tweet them in to: @saturdaykitchen or email them

:32:01.:32:02.

Do that. Joan hopefully, people will fund me! And there are incredible

:32:03.:32:25.

prizes that you can bid for. You can have breakfast, if you are a Doctor

:32:26.:32:34.

Who fan, you can go to breakfast with seven Doctor Whos! Can I get a

:32:35.:32:46.

whoa author that? Yeah! You can get a trip to LA to meet James Corden.

:32:47.:32:56.

You can seed sheeran and hang out with him back stage. You can get a

:32:57.:33:02.

fringe trim and a spray tan with Claudia Winkleman! I can see you are

:33:03.:33:07.

all over that! Who wouldn't want that?! You are all over that! I

:33:08.:33:15.

think you get your own paper pants! I think that they chuck them in for

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free, I just want to reassure people! So, let's get on with this,

:33:21.:33:29.

in case you were not clear, you need the egg whites, the almonds, the

:33:30.:33:35.

almond sugar, blitzed into a piece, rolled in a log and cut into chunks

:33:36.:33:39.

like so. How are they soft? They are chewy

:33:40.:33:43.

amaretto biscuits. We want as many people as possible

:33:44.:34:01.

to hold bake sales of their own. Send us a photo of them and tell us

:34:02.:34:04.

the amount you raised and we will show as many photos

:34:05.:34:07.

as we can on Saturday Kitchen the morning after the big night,

:34:08.:34:10.

which is the this coming Friday. Either tweet them in to:

:34:11.:34:13.

@saturdaykitchen or email them Right.

:34:14.:34:17.

That's enough. Take one. Roll them out and flatten

:34:18.:34:19.

them a little bit. Very nice.

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Do you have a play list for this? I have the most magnificent woman

:34:24.:34:27.

called Fiona who is helping to sort out the music. So I think we may

:34:28.:34:32.

have to start off with a bit of Wham! 9.30am.

:34:33.:34:40.

I don't know what we will end up on. Is it going to end slowly, like a

:34:41.:34:47.

school disco? I don't know. It will end with a Big Bang, hopefully. And

:34:48.:34:57.

somebody sent in to resuscitate me! My eldest daughter has permission

:34:58.:35:01.

from her lovely school, to support me. I have heard that there is

:35:02.:35:09.

confetti, and the lovely Michael Ball is hosting Breck fast that day.

:35:10.:35:17.

Love changes everything! I love Michael Ball! Show them the toot you

:35:18.:35:24.

of Michael that you have got! He is involved. It should be brilliant. I

:35:25.:35:30.

know it is cheesy but if people donate and support me, it will boost

:35:31.:35:34.

me on. It's for a good cause. Obviously I

:35:35.:35:40.

went to Nairobi in January, I saw the incredible work that Comic

:35:41.:35:45.

Relief does, and also in the UK. You know, if you could throw one of

:35:46.:35:51.

these biscuits now, you could hit a Comic Relief project.

:35:52.:35:56.

Is that right? You are always within 30 miles of a economic leaf project.

:35:57.:36:01.

So give us your money, as Bob would say.

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I won't fill in the rest of it! -- You are always within 30 miles of a

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Comic Relief project! Do you want to try a biscuit? You know what, I'm

:36:19.:36:23.

thrilled! So what will I be making for Sara

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at the end of the show? It could be her food heaven,

:36:28.:36:30.

clams I am going to make you a delicious dish of clams,

:36:31.:36:33.

chorizo and crab! First I'll saute clams with garlic,

:36:34.:36:35.

chilli and wine then I'll grill the razor clams

:36:36.:36:38.

and the chorizo together and then I'll serve everything along

:36:39.:36:41.

with some soft shell crab and finally garnish with fried basil

:36:42.:36:43.

leaves and aubergine tempura. But if you get hell it will be

:36:44.:36:46.

a coffee dessert and I make Somebody on Twitter has accused me

:36:47.:36:52.

of double bluffing, that, like, yeah, I don't like cake!

:36:53.:36:53.

First I'll add almonds, coffee essence and ground coffee

:36:54.:36:57.

to some whisked egg whites and sugar and bake until set then

:36:58.:37:00.

I'll make a filling of mascarpone cream, sugar and then sprinkle

:37:01.:37:03.

the cake with coffee and cocoa powder.

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But we'll have to wait until the end of the show

:37:06.:37:07.

These are delicious! Are they? You heard that!

:37:08.:37:10.

He's rustling up some fresh, seasonal dishes from produce

:37:11.:37:15.

from his friend's allotment ? we all needs friends like that!

:37:16.:37:26.

I belief in using the freshest ingredients I can find. It's one of

:37:27.:37:32.

the reasons I love allotments so much. You get to pick and choose

:37:33.:37:39.

whatever's in season. If one thing's not quite right, there's always

:37:40.:37:44.

something else to munch on. I know these apple, they're ripe but will

:37:45.:37:49.

be even better if I leave them for a week or two. Whereas the plums are

:37:50.:37:54.

absolutely at their perfect, perfect ripeness. This is the moment when

:37:55.:38:01.

they really want picking. Luscious! So someone who shares my

:38:02.:38:13.

concern for freshness is Benito. She has one of the most amazing

:38:14.:38:20.

allotments I have seen it is inspired by her homeland in Nairobi.

:38:21.:38:28.

That is a pumpkin. People think it is a squash. That it is looking like

:38:29.:38:35.

it is American. But it is so sweet. I can't find that in the shops. You

:38:36.:38:40.

grow it because you can't get it? Yes! I like to grow unusual plants.

:38:41.:38:47.

What is going on here? I don't even know what this is? This is spinach.

:38:48.:38:54.

But it's a rare spinach. Try that. It's a new variety.

:38:55.:39:00.

Like me, Bonitto loves cooking with her veg. But I think it would be

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good to cook them right here, where they are grown on the allotment. So

:39:05.:39:10.

I'm on the hunt for a couple of ingredients.

:39:11.:39:13.

What's this? That's rocket. Rocket! You can use it in your

:39:14.:39:19.

salad. Oh, look at that! Hey! I just love

:39:20.:39:27.

smelling them. You never get that smell in the shops, do you? And I

:39:28.:39:34.

can't take my eyes off your beat root.

:39:35.:39:40.

Look at this one, it is called a cylinder beetroot.

:39:41.:39:44.

Like a sausage? Yeah, like a sausage.

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Lovely. I'm going to make some really simple potato and beetroot

:39:52.:39:55.

tributers. Everything I'm cooking is from the allot.

:39:56.:40:01.

How many cloves would you like? How many cloves would you like? Are you

:40:02.:40:08.

very garlicky? I love garlic. These are the vegetables, held

:40:09.:40:11.

together with a little beaten egg. It will be sweet. The potatoes are

:40:12.:40:18.

bland, the beetroot is sweet, there is fennel, garlic, the onions, in

:40:19.:40:22.

there, that will take the sweetness off. It would be nice to have

:40:23.:40:27.

something hot? I have a pickle I have made. It has a curry spice.

:40:28.:40:35.

Oh, my word! There is garlic, the yellow beans, the shallots and

:40:36.:40:37.

carrots. Is this going to be spicy? Yes! Tuck

:40:38.:40:45.

in. Tell me what you think? Mmm. It's very earthy! That would be nice

:40:46.:40:50.

with a bit of cheese. A bit of goat's cheese or something

:40:51.:40:53.

sharp. Mmm.

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No, that's good, isn't it. It's the pickle! It's the sweetness and the

:40:59.:41:06.

heat... ! A glass of wine would be... It would be very nice! When

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I'm thinking of ingredients to bring together, I think it is often worth

:41:17.:41:20.

looking at the landscape that sounds you. You think about Scotland, and

:41:21.:41:26.

think about those fields of oats and then in the valleys where they grow

:41:27.:41:31.

wonderful raspberries and then up on the hills with the heather and the

:41:32.:41:35.

heather honey. Think how it all comes together and it can come

:41:36.:41:39.

together in one dish. There is a wonderful pudding which is made up

:41:40.:41:44.

of raspberries, oats, whisky and cream.

:41:45.:41:50.

So, tonight I'm making a Scottish-inspired pudding, a simple

:41:51.:41:54.

boozy treat you must try. I love using oatmeal in puddings. It

:41:55.:42:01.

has a warm, homefully feel to it. And it makes the kitchens smell

:42:02.:42:07.

fantastic. So whether it is the very fine oatmeal, or the coarse rolled

:42:08.:42:13.

oats, that you use for porridge, you get that lovely smell as if

:42:14.:42:19.

somebody's baking flap Jacques or oatcakes. For this dessert I'm using

:42:20.:42:26.

a mixture of fine oatmeal and correspondent porridge oats. And a

:42:27.:42:31.

little brown sugar to cook the mixture under the grill.

:42:32.:42:40.

This is a treat. Anybody can whisk cream in a

:42:41.:42:45.

machine. You can just do it in seconds but I like doing it by hand.

:42:46.:42:50.

I've got total control over how thick the cream is.

:42:51.:42:56.

It's so easy to overwhip. Once the cream starts to feel heavy on my

:42:57.:43:01.

whisk then I stop immediately. I'm going to put in a tiny little bit of

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that Scotch whisky. Add a little drop of whisky a trickle of honey

:43:09.:43:12.

and blend both through the whipped cream. Finally, it's time for the

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raspberries. I did very well with my raspberries.

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They were one of the very first things I planted when I did the

:43:23.:43:27.

garden and it was a real treat. But then in a moment of madness, I

:43:28.:43:35.

pulled them up to plant cabbages or something, and it was such a

:43:36.:43:40.

mistake, because I miss them enormously.

:43:41.:43:53.

It's all about textures. It's the sharp, sweetness of the

:43:54.:44:03.

raspberries. A voluptuous cream, and then the warm, toastie oatmeal.

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That gorgeous thing of soft fruit, extremely naughty cream and lovely

:44:15.:44:21.

cri is p oats. Glorious!

:44:22.:44:26.

That looks very naughty indeed, Nigel!

:44:27.:44:27.

Still to come on today's show: Tom Kerridge is making his version

:44:28.:44:31.

of a ham and mushroom pie He's makes it with a bit

:44:32.:44:34.

of a twist ? with a delicious mushroom powder pastry.

:44:35.:44:37.

There's no omelette challenge today, instead Phil and Galton are going

:44:38.:44:40.

to take on the 'Saturday Kitchen Take the Biscuit Challenge'

:44:41.:44:43.

for Comic Relief ? they have to decorate the cookies that we made

:44:44.:44:47.

earlier, and Sara will judge the best one.

:44:48.:44:52.

And will Sara get her food heaven ? clams.

:44:53.:44:54.

Or will it be hell ? coffee-flavoured dessert?

:44:55.:44:56.

We'll find out at the end of the show

:44:57.:44:58.

And if you'd like to try Galton's or any of our other

:44:59.:45:13.

I won't be able to speak! That is probably a good thing! I am going to

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do a squid ink batter. You will do the emulsion. Blanching, into ice

:45:23.:45:33.

water. Straight into their and straight out again? Yeah. I was a

:45:34.:45:40.

little taken aback when I saw this. It is quite revolutionary. You think

:45:41.:45:47.

I'm some kind of dinosaur. I think you are a gentle giant who are not

:45:48.:45:57.

necessarily embraces the modern era! This is gluten-free self raising

:45:58.:45:59.

flour and a little bit of plain flour. Why all gluten-free? It

:46:00.:46:07.

actually makes a very nice batter. Light crispy batter. Is it the

:46:08.:46:17.

science behind it? It was pot luck how it all came about. A bit like

:46:18.:46:26.

most of my cooking! There are a lot of things you can make successes out

:46:27.:46:35.

of mistakes. Why the squid ink? Because of the colour. I think it is

:46:36.:46:39.

really good. There is a little flavour but not a lot. It is

:46:40.:46:44.

different. It is going down a storm. We will see, won't we?! It looks

:46:45.:46:52.

very unusual. It is unusual. I think it is stunning. At the end of the

:46:53.:46:58.

day it has to taste good. You want to get your batter just right. This

:46:59.:47:05.

is from your new book? It is. It is all about fish. Coming out later in

:47:06.:47:11.

the year. Our people embracing fish more in this country? I think so. We

:47:12.:47:19.

are on the coast, so it makes sense for us to do something fishy

:47:20.:47:24.

oriented. Halibut is quite expensive. What would you use at

:47:25.:47:30.

home? UK News cut, not so much havoc these days. -- you could use card. A

:47:31.:47:39.

bit of hake. I'm getting this ready and I will plunge it into the fryer.

:47:40.:47:45.

In the meantime... Just wash my hands. I am going to start the

:47:46.:47:50.

emulsion and you are going to finish it. I like this because I can be

:47:51.:48:00.

bossy for once! You are always bossy despite your gentle jumpers. Blitz

:48:01.:48:08.

this town? Yes. The oil is in there. Big strong flavours. I think so. I

:48:09.:48:14.

don't smother the plate with it. It is just a little bit. It little bit

:48:15.:48:23.

of lemon. -- a little bit of lemon. And seasoning. This takes a while?

:48:24.:48:34.

Yes. Eventually it goes like that. What is the key to this? Long

:48:35.:48:41.

blending and then you want that juiced? You ultimately want this

:48:42.:48:44.

incredible green juice, which is what happens to that. Work from

:48:45.:48:54.

there, really. That would go over there. Then you squeeze the life out

:48:55.:49:02.

of it? Yes. We do quite a lot of the oils. I am sure Phil would do

:49:03.:49:08.

similar oils, or a different things like that just for the flavour. This

:49:09.:49:15.

is a little bit to the east for me. But Greens are all in. That kind of

:49:16.:49:23.

oil is all in. The pond used them all, I think. I would add the green

:49:24.:49:31.

oil. That is the point of the dish. I am just worried, it is very thin.

:49:32.:49:38.

Like it was very thin in rehearsal! Hopefully it will pick up. You are

:49:39.:49:46.

also celebrating 25 years at Molson? 25 happy years? Bliss. Working with

:49:47.:49:59.

my wife for 25 years! Yeah, it is a milestone. We have got a few things

:50:00.:50:06.

to celebrate. I will have a little party. I have got a huge bottle of

:50:07.:50:11.

wine to use. You might get an invite. I might? Yes!

:50:12.:50:19.

And if you'd like to try Galton's or any of our other

:50:20.:50:22.

studio recipes then visit our website:

:50:23.:50:24.

The halibut is in the fryer with the batter. As you politely said

:50:25.:50:33.

earlier, it looks like a bit of old coal. One and a half minutes. It

:50:34.:50:42.

needs longer. Lets Mac -- let's not poison Sara Cox. It would get me out

:50:43.:50:49.

of the dancethon! Have you got a fitness regime? I have been to the

:50:50.:50:58.

gym a lot and Don Pilates. -- and I have done Pilates. I got sold some

:50:59.:51:04.

fake halibut once. A man came to my door in a white coat and said, we

:51:05.:51:11.

have come from the north-east. He reeled me in with that one. This

:51:12.:51:16.

fish were horrible and slimy. It wasn't halibut. It was a river

:51:17.:51:26.

cobbler. Is that a thing? There will be a very good reason why we haven't

:51:27.:51:32.

heard of it before! I fried it, I baked it, I Massa ousted. You

:51:33.:51:37.

couldn't make it edible. That is what Twitter said it was. That fish

:51:38.:51:42.

has had two and a half minutes. Beautiful. Are we ready with that? I

:51:43.:51:49.

will just make this plate look special. There we go. That's better.

:51:50.:52:05.

It is a must like a mayonnaise. There is a theme going. With the

:52:06.:52:13.

jumper? It is called one too many drinks at Cheltenham. I lost a lot.

:52:14.:52:19.

Is your wife happy? She's never happy! I'm joking! I'm joking! Hold

:52:20.:52:33.

dear. You are the trouble. You are the problem. You get me into trouble

:52:34.:52:38.

the whole time! Shall I get you the fish? Yes please. I think you'll

:52:39.:52:44.

quite like this, Sara. Even if you don't, just say you do. Absolutely.

:52:45.:52:52.

It is beautiful face. This is reliant on extraordinarily good

:52:53.:52:58.

finish. In Norfolk we get good fish. Like you do everywhere. Well, some

:52:59.:53:06.

places. Look at that. A bit of Blackrock. Very unusual. Correctly.

:53:07.:53:15.

Like you! Do you think I'm correctly? Beautiful and quirky.

:53:16.:53:27.

Let's move on. Those are just roasted for ours in a low oven with

:53:28.:53:34.

salt and pepper. -- hours. It is a triumph. Thank you, sir.

:53:35.:53:44.

Tracy is going to be happy with you. That was a lovely bit of life

:53:45.:53:51.

bromance. It looks like something an archaeologist would bring up. It

:53:52.:53:55.

looks very nice. Just listen to the crisp on that. You were quite

:53:56.:54:00.

excited about the gluten-free aspect? I also like Inc. There is no

:54:01.:54:08.

real reason to use ink. Sometimes it is just fun. What -- It is not first

:54:09.:54:17.

date food, is it? This is essentially a first date! There is a

:54:18.:54:24.

beautiful contrast when you crunch through the batter. It is absolutely

:54:25.:54:30.

gorgeous. The coriander emulsion is delicious. The Chris Brunt that is

:54:31.:54:34.

incredible. Would I be able to do that as good at home though? I think

:54:35.:54:37.

you should do. OK, let's head back to Wakefield

:54:38.:54:38.

to find out which wine Sam has chosen to go

:54:39.:54:41.

with Galton's heavenly halibut. That was certainly a first,

:54:42.:55:11.

battering our own face. My husband is a dab hand at cooking. However,

:55:12.:55:16.

when it comes to the wine, the ball is in my side of the court. If

:55:17.:55:21.

you're looking for a good match, this is spot on. Try this reasoning

:55:22.:55:29.

from Argentina. When it comes to food and wine matching, there are

:55:30.:55:33.

golden rules. You need to match the weight of the wine with the weight

:55:34.:55:35.

of the dish. You need to find a dominant flavour

:55:36.:55:46.

in the fish and match the wine to that. We have a fleshy fish that is

:55:47.:55:54.

flavour packed. It needs to be allowed to shine. One of the reasons

:55:55.:55:59.

this one goes so well with the dish is that it is slightly aromatic. It

:56:00.:56:04.

is predominantly made from the indigenous Argentine great. It is

:56:05.:56:08.

full of tropical fruit and like cheese that can stand up to the

:56:09.:56:13.

green sauce. The reasoning goes well with the herbs. It marries well with

:56:14.:56:20.

the chilli and the ginger. It has enough weight and structure to

:56:21.:56:23.

balance with the flaky fish and to cut through that batter. I think

:56:24.:56:28.

this is a wonderful wine. It is no wallflower. I really hope you like

:56:29.:56:31.

it. Cheers! Cheers. Breaking news, River

:56:32.:56:42.

cobbler is a thing. There we are. A Vietnamese catfish. Very slimy, it

:56:43.:56:53.

was. I had to throw it away. It could be nice if it is fresh. I feel

:56:54.:56:59.

like we are doing fish Crimewatch! Have you seen this fish? I like this

:57:00.:57:06.

one. It is floral. It is good. It is very good. That is a recommendation.

:57:07.:57:14.

That is nice, actually. It is a food wine. Quite normal flavours. You are

:57:15.:57:29.

eating everything! I realise every time we come back, I'm still eating!

:57:30.:57:31.

It's time to catch up with those Hairy Bikers, Si and Dave.

:57:32.:57:34.

They've been sent to Coventry this week.

:57:35.:57:35.

They're looking into food heritage and tasting a few things

:57:36.:57:38.

And if the Brits are a nation of gardeners, there is one corner of

:57:39.:57:53.

Coventry that has to be our spiritual home. And we are here to

:57:54.:57:56.

find out more about the historical roots of our favourite veg. This may

:57:57.:58:02.

look like an average garden centre. But there is something special about

:58:03.:58:08.

it. This is Garden Organic near Coventry. It is a charity dedicated

:58:09.:58:13.

to the craft of organic gardening. They have a special mission, to

:58:14.:58:17.

protect endangered veg. Not only that, they are here to protect some

:58:18.:58:25.

of our most historic varieties. The centre is home to an incredibly

:58:26.:58:32.

-- incredible historical seed bank that were once the mainstay of

:58:33.:58:35.

British gardens but could otherwise have died out. We have come to meet

:58:36.:58:40.

Bob Sherman, the director of operations, and he is going to tell

:58:41.:58:44.

us more about the work they do. Welcome. Have a look around. What an

:58:45.:58:53.

amazing garden. Garden Organic is a living library of Britain's

:58:54.:58:58.

Gardening heritage. That is a key part of what we do. These gardens

:58:59.:59:01.

are about how to look after the landscape organically. They were

:59:02.:59:05.

created 25 years ago and have evolved into what you see now. It is

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beautiful. This is the herb garden? It is. We have got Mediterranean

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plants on this side. And where we are no comment is more Chinese and

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Asian. It is not just indigenous British plans? Certainly not. If we

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were to rely entirely on indigenous plants, we would not only be hungry

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but very bored. We have some very good herbs. But over the centuries,

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many plans have come into this country and that is where most of

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our vegetables come from. I don't know how much you like kale, but

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that is probably what we would be eating. We have grabbed the craft of

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cultivation and made it work over the centuries. I think we are a

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brilliant nation in terms of cultivation of plans. When we're

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talking about the plans, it is their appearance as well. You could have a

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vegetable garden that fulfils your need for aesthetic says well. I love

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that idea. I think it is brilliant. You get two bites of the cherry, so

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to speak. It is everybody's dream, isn't it? The ultimate allotment.

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Look how beautiful that Chard is. That is gorgeous. I thought that was

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rhubarb. Just look at the colour. There is a lot of wax on the leaf.

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What about a tomato? Tomatoes are from South America. The original one

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is a little tiny one, about that big. Very tasty, tiny fruit. You

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look at what is there now, we have got hundreds of varieties. They are

:01:01.:01:06.

all different. Leaks are Welsh. I don't think so. I thought they were

:01:07.:01:24.

Geordie! We have seen great-looking veg. But there is only one way to

:01:25.:01:30.

get into our food heritage, and that's by tucking in.

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Brilliant. This is a range of stuff from the heritage. Here are

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tomatoes. That's an American one. That's a French one and these are

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good old British ones. I suspect you would like to try them. And those

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are the peas that I think you know very well. They have an incredible

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history. The pea itself is medieval. It was 25% protein and enough to

:01:58.:02:04.

keep the peasants working for a few days of wage and then give them a

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few more! It gave rice to the dish they ate on a Sunday.

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I remember when I was small, when it was coming to Easter, we would have

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salt, white pepper, always, and vinegar. It was one of those things

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that you kind of looked forward to as eastser was coming to. It was

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lovely. Perhaps you would like to try some

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to see if it is up to snaff. We preserve these. Looking at them, it

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is not the kind of thing that you expect people to go wild with

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excitement about. The idea is part of our heritage and

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the story is as important as the seeds. Apparently it is all to do

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with the siege of Newcastle and Newcastle being a royalist town and

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the Scots had surrounded it. And everybody was starving down the last

:03:06.:03:14.

bottle of Newcastle brown ale. And a French ship managed to break down

:03:15.:03:19.

the barricade and brought seeds in which they were able to use for

:03:20.:03:26.

food. So it saved the day. This is a tomato from the 1970s, and

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if we hadn't saved it it would have been gone.

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This reminds me of the sort of tomatoes that I had on a salad as a

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kid. And the other thing about the tomatoes, those are the next crop in

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there. If you can restrain yourself, take the seeds out, you have had a

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meal and you have next year's crop. If you can restrain your hunger, you

:04:00.:04:04.

can have next year's crop... However! You should have said it

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earlier, shouldn't you?! This is a Derby Stripe. Have one each. It will

:04:12.:04:17.

run all down your nice shirt. I don't think it will affect it.

:04:18.:04:22.

That's a beautiful looking tomato. Oops! There's the money shot!

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Straight in the lens! You can't take him anywhere, can you? Can you see

:04:33.:04:38.

now? This is how to eat a tomato. Look at this.

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Oh, that's good. Isn't it? Oh, aye. Well, that has our appetite well and

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truly whetted. We could not come somewhere like this without coming

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home with some goods. I have seeds, beans, everything, the

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future, my friend is in my pocket! First up, it is Chris from

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some of you at home. First up, it is Chris from

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Birmingham. What is your question, Chris? My question is we have lovely

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sea bass fillets. Nice. We have never cooked with sea

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bass before, even though we love to cook. So looking for advice with

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regards to kneads you have with sea bass. I'll take that.

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Fish boy! Yes! Buy my book! No! If you have decent fillets of sea bass,

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keep them whole. A grease-proof baking tray. And then make a

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meringue, substituting sugar with salt and lemon juice. Whisk it up as

:06:00.:06:04.

a meringue and put it over the top and bake it for 20 minutes. I tell

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you it is lovely. Been on the bottle?! It is lovely.

:06:12.:06:16.

Chris, I promise you, a fool proof way of cooking a piece of fish.

:06:17.:06:20.

There you go. Heaven or hell? I totally agree with

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Coxy, coffee should not be introduced to desserts.

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There you go. Heaven it is.

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Coxy? It took me years to shake that off, it was Coxy with a bottle of

:06:44.:06:50.

wine and a packet of fags! So, there you go! Kath says, she has nettles

:06:51.:07:01.

and would like some suggestions as to cooking with them.

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You can either make a soup or a great pesto. You can grab garden

:07:07.:07:20.

leaves. You bend the tender stinging nettles with almond nuts, olive oil,

:07:21.:07:26.

garlic and a little bit of soup. And make a pesto. Or make a soup. Very

:07:27.:07:30.

nice. Or you could make a bonfire and burn

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them all! Or a nettle meringue! Cover it! Gary's been on. Bazzer,

:07:39.:07:46.

it's been too long, mate! What is the best way to cook a shin of beef?

:07:47.:07:54.

Long and slow. Stock and seal the shin of beef off in butter or oil.

:07:55.:08:00.

In a big dish, cover it with stock for a long time in the oven. With

:08:01.:08:13.

aromatics. I love a aromatics! A great album! What is your question,

:08:14.:08:21.

Hannah? Hi, Matt, I heard that all of the top chefs were smoking joints

:08:22.:08:28.

these days? Smoking? Right, so Speking meat and fish? Who has

:08:29.:08:34.

suggestions? For me, if I have a smoker, I always put mackerel in it.

:08:35.:08:41.

It is hot, smoked mackerel. Get the hot fish, score it, oil, season, put

:08:42.:08:47.

it in the smoker, lid on. Ten minutes and then eat it as it is, or

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take it out and combine that with some sour cream, and spring onions

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or chives. Heaven. And Hannah, heaven or hell? Oh, I'm

:09:04.:09:10.

really sorriy, Sara but it's hell. Hannah?! Bruno from London? . I

:09:11.:09:20.

would like a chicken recipe. I like lemon butter. It is taking the

:09:21.:09:28.

breasts off the bone. Battering them out. And then lots of butter,

:09:29.:09:34.

levelon rind, juice. Seal it off and into an oven.

:09:35.:09:38.

Nice. Or a tagine.

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A bit of ras elhad been auto. Orange, lemons, spices. Is a splash

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of wine. In the oven for a an hour or a half.

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Nice. Now, heaven or hell for Sara Cox?

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Heaven, please. Yes!

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It's 'Take the Biscuit Challenge' time now for Comic Relief!

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You both have one minute to design your biscuits

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with the toppings and decorations in front of you.

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Sara will judge the best looking biscuit.

:10:13.:10:14.

There's no expense spared with the prize ? a biscuit

:10:15.:10:16.

You have your mish lib starts, so get cooking. Three, two, one, go!

:10:17.:10:38.

Oh, good tune! And wherever you are from, you can replace that song with

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# We're the kids from... Bolton! Matt, instead of you yapping, do

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one! Do one? Are you being rude?! Go on. Let's see it.

:10:58.:11:03.

The things, we have two really nice biscuits here and we are just going

:11:04.:11:08.

to trash them. Oh, Phil! Grow down! Sara, feel free

:11:09.:11:18.

to dance if you want. I can't. I'm doing a lot of that on Monday! That

:11:19.:11:29.

was pathetic! I have done a little cat. What have you done? You've just

:11:30.:11:36.

sandwiched them together?! Look, I have a border and a red nose.

:11:37.:11:41.

Oh, I see. Very nice. Shall I do my judging

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bit? Right, so let's have a look at this.

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Right, OK, I think we have a third place. I will move that out of the

:11:52.:11:57.

order. Bearing in mind the ages of the

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people that have done them! Right, well, you have made the cookies,

:12:03.:12:08.

your own. This, I think, it is classy and nice, however, I think it

:12:09.:12:16.

looks delicious. However, I think it is for Red Nose Day on Friday, this

:12:17.:12:21.

is a bit more fun and I think, Galton, you have taken the biscuit!

:12:22.:12:25.

Well done. And there is a very young picture of

:12:26.:12:30.

you, remind yourself of what you used to look like and put it on your

:12:31.:12:32.

fridge! So will Sara get her food

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heaven clams or hell, We'll find out which one you're

:12:36.:12:37.

getting after Tom Kerridge prepares his take on a classic ham

:12:38.:12:41.

and mushroom pie! Now, if you want to pick up some

:12:42.:12:51.

top-notch grub for lunch, head for your local farmers' market. They're

:12:52.:12:54.

a great place to pick up fantastic ingredients and get a bit of

:12:55.:12:56.

inspiration. Thank you very much. You are very

:12:57.:13:03.

kind. Cheerio. Goodbye! But if you ask me, nothing beats a good old

:13:04.:13:09.

fashioned pie for lunch. There are some people making classic British

:13:10.:13:12.

pies, really, really well. I'm here to meet one of them. Paul Sykes has

:13:13.:13:18.

been making traditional pies for three years. He now sells a whopping

:13:19.:13:24.

600 pie as day! Hello, Paul. I'm Tom. Nice to meet you. This looks

:13:25.:13:31.

incredible. What flavour pie is that? So this is chicken and

:13:32.:13:33.

mushroom. I know it is rude to speak with my

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mouth full but that is incredible. Lots of filling and good-sized

:13:41.:13:45.

pieces as well. What is it, Paul, that people love about pies? Old

:13:46.:13:51.

fashioned, traditional comfort food. That's it in a little pastry case!

:13:52.:13:59.

What makes your pastry so great? I use suet crust pastry. Old

:14:00.:14:03.

fashioned. Packed full of flavour. It is all about getting the flavour

:14:04.:14:10.

into the pastry. Anyone can make a pastry but we can't give that away.

:14:11.:14:19.

Not on camera! By using a tasty suet pastry, Paul has taken his pies to a

:14:20.:14:24.

whole new level. . There you go.

:14:25.:14:28.

Thank you very much. These won't last long in my hands but I'm

:14:29.:14:34.

inspired to make my own twist on the classic ham and mushroom pie. It has

:14:35.:14:39.

a little bit of culinary magic in the pastry! The ham and mushroom pie

:14:40.:14:47.

it really is hard to beat. But I have a little extra tweak that's

:14:48.:14:50.

going to make this dish even tastier.

:14:51.:14:54.

Like Paul, I want my pastry to be as tasty as the Philling. To get

:14:55.:14:59.

powerful flavours in there, I'm adding mushroom powder. You can buy

:15:00.:15:04.

dried mushroomed powdered. I'm go to blitz these up in a spice grinder.

:15:05.:15:11.

These are dried porcini mushrooms. A quick blitz and they are done. I'm

:15:12.:15:17.

making a short crust pastry. Add flour and butter to your magic

:15:18.:15:23.

ingredient. The died mushroom will make a difference to the pastry mix.

:15:24.:15:28.

It will give it a depth and earthy flavour that runs through the pie.

:15:29.:15:31.

Bring it together with egg and water.

:15:32.:15:36.

You can finish lumping it together with your hands. You can feel the

:15:37.:15:45.

pastry coming together. It is nice, it is soft, it is easy to work with.

:15:46.:15:51.

While that is in the fridge, I can crack on with my pie filling. This

:15:52.:15:56.

will have loads of it. Starting with these meaty chestnut mushrooms.

:15:57.:16:02.

Friday loads of lovely butter. You get these brown caramelised tinges

:16:03.:16:08.

on the outside. That starts off this lovely sweet nutty mushroom flavour.

:16:09.:16:14.

It will be at the heart and soul of this lovely pie. When it is cooked,

:16:15.:16:21.

remove the mushroom from the pan and choke in some onion. It will make

:16:22.:16:29.

you cry a little bit. That is all right. Just don't let your mates

:16:30.:16:36.

see. Give your onions a quick fry. The onions have browned from the

:16:37.:16:40.

mushrooms. They have taken on the dues and flavour. Very simple

:16:41.:16:43.

ingredients. Every little bit, trying to get as much flavour out of

:16:44.:16:48.

it as possible. Mushrooms and onions done, it is time to move on to the

:16:49.:16:53.

rich sauce. This starts with a simple white sauce and is -- and we

:16:54.:17:07.

had mustered, white wine and cream. More richness, more flavour, just

:17:08.:17:11.

more. It smells lovely. All this needs is some proper ham and herbs.

:17:12.:17:19.

Nice big chunks. So when you eat it, it has got lovely flaky pastry and a

:17:20.:17:27.

massive cube of lovely ham. Then whack the whole lot into the white

:17:28.:17:32.

sauce. Give it a stir and it is job done. Look at that for a pie

:17:33.:17:37.

filling. Lovely, rich, creamy, big lumps. Meaty ham. It is already

:17:38.:17:49.

bringing a smile to my face. It is important to stick this into the

:17:50.:17:53.

fridge, leave it to go cold. Otherwise, when you roll the pastry

:17:54.:17:57.

out and put the filling in, if it is warm, the pastry will go soft and

:17:58.:18:02.

you won't get a nice crispy, crunchy pastry. Vote Leave filling relaxers,

:18:03.:18:07.

I can get on with rolling out my pastry. That already looks like it

:18:08.:18:11.

is going to taste of mushrooms. Just keep a third back to make the lid

:18:12.:18:17.

later and roll out the rest. This is a great pie to be making if you have

:18:18.:18:20.

got friends coming over for a spot of lunch. You can make it in

:18:21.:18:24.

advance, leave it in the fridge, it will sit there. Stick it in the

:18:25.:18:33.

oven, about 45 minutes, before they come. Job done. It is way better

:18:34.:18:38.

than making a load of Sam Burgess. All this needs now is a proper

:18:39.:18:46.

helping of filling. Don't be shy. Get it all in. There is nothing

:18:47.:18:51.

worse than a stingy, tightfisted pie. Then roll out a lid to keep it

:18:52.:18:56.

in there. A pie without a lid is not a pie, it is a tart. Just saying.

:18:57.:19:03.

Cut a hole in the middle to let out any steam. Brush the edge with egg

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wash and stick it on top. Roll the pastry. Make sure you get the

:19:10.:19:16.

bull's-eye in the middle. It was a little bit off. Definitely not going

:19:17.:19:23.

to get a 501 finish. Give it a pretty haircut. Make it look like

:19:24.:19:30.

you are well professional and you have worked in a pie shop for years.

:19:31.:19:33.

I looked like I have worked in a pie shop for years. Coded in egg wash

:19:34.:19:39.

and sprinkle on some fine leaves and sea salt. Can't wait to get that

:19:40.:19:47.

cooked. Put it in the oven at 190 degrees. I love pies. 45 minutes

:19:48.:19:55.

later, it will be done. There you go. Beautiful mushroom pie. If you

:19:56.:19:59.

have friends coming around for lunch, they will be well happy with

:20:00.:20:00.

that. Tom Sanders like a pirate, I

:20:01.:20:06.

thought! -- sounded. Right, time to find out

:20:07.:20:16.

whether Sara is getting her food Clams, shellfish, chorizo, that was

:20:17.:20:33.

your heaven. Stars of the sea. Better than River Cobbler. My entire

:20:34.:20:37.

Twitter feed is all about River Cobbler. I am sure it is nice when

:20:38.:20:43.

it is fresh. This is your help. Tiramisu roulade. What you think you

:20:44.:20:50.

have got? I hope I have got my heaven. The chefs made the decision.

:20:51.:20:58.

We are doing heaven. They clearly like you. Yes! We need tempura. That

:20:59.:21:14.

is your bag, Galton. This is smoking. That is all right. Phil,

:21:15.:21:21.

can you split the chorizo and grill the plan. I am far too old for this.

:21:22.:21:37.

The grill is looking good. It is all about the dancethon. Monday at

:21:38.:21:43.

9:30am on BBC Radio 2. And on the Red Button on BBC television. Lots

:21:44.:21:49.

of special guest appearing. All the videos on the Red Button. Last night

:21:50.:21:55.

I couldn't sleep because I was excited about meeting you,

:21:56.:21:59.

obviously. I was quite nervous about Monday so I was dreaming about the

:22:00.:22:04.

dancethon. Has this idea spiralled out of control? Did you agree after

:22:05.:22:12.

a a few drinks? It is so amazing what Comic Relief do. I have watched

:22:13.:22:17.

Red Nose Day with everybody else for the last 20 years on my couch. I

:22:18.:22:21.

figured when they ask you to do something, you should. I was so

:22:22.:22:27.

pleased I didn't have to climb a mountain because I have terrible

:22:28.:22:30.

vertigo. I was like, I will dance. It will be pretty special. You have

:22:31.:22:39.

got the great pottery programme? Yes, it is the final this Thursday.

:22:40.:22:46.

Eight o'clock on BBC Two. Sara Millican, I probably owe her about a

:22:47.:22:51.

fiver, she called it a cup of tea for the eyes. I keep using that

:22:52.:22:58.

quote. In April, uncertain, strange world, it is one hour of gorgeous

:22:59.:23:02.

television featuring some incredible potters and my lovely judges. All

:23:03.:23:08.

the episodes are on the iPlayer. It is an elaborate pottery. People have

:23:09.:23:16.

to make like toilets and things like that. They made toilets the other

:23:17.:23:23.

night. One of them was more like a log flu. It exploded! It was like a

:23:24.:23:35.

b-day and a toilet. The challenges this year have got bigger and more

:23:36.:23:38.

difficult and more conjugated. They have to do a bust of a man's body

:23:39.:23:45.

for the final. We tried to get Galton on for -- to model for it but

:23:46.:23:57.

he was busy. In here, chilli, garlic, clams. Lid on. The clams

:23:58.:24:05.

will steam. The juices will cried. I don't need a spray tan! Have you

:24:06.:24:15.

tried razor clams? Yes. Delicious. I wish people could smell this. It is

:24:16.:24:25.

incredible. It is gorgeous. The chilli in there, amazing. My

:24:26.:24:31.

favourite things. Sometimes that is what food is about. Big feisty

:24:32.:24:36.

flavours. You don't want to see flames too often cooking. Grilling

:24:37.:24:41.

chorizo is one of them. Where did you get your love of food from? You

:24:42.:24:48.

grew up NA from? My dad is a beef farmer. My mum was always a great

:24:49.:24:53.

cook. My friends would have crispy pancakes from the freezer. We never

:24:54.:24:57.

really had them. We want to load them. My mum does an incredible

:24:58.:25:04.

broth with a ham shank, which I do. My grandad was a master baker. He

:25:05.:25:12.

made the most incredible high. Beef, fat onion. I make it for my kids and

:25:13.:25:17.

they love it. Simple food. There were five of us so you would always

:25:18.:25:23.

have two fight for the food. My lot are a bit like that.

:25:24.:25:35.

Send us in your photos and we will get through as many as we can. Raise

:25:36.:25:43.

some money. Right, I have to wear these trousers tonight, I don't want

:25:44.:25:48.

to get juice all over them. I am going for a Chinese. I am really

:25:49.:25:54.

excited. You have been cooking all morning, to be fair! It is all day

:25:55.:26:00.

rugby today. I am going to have a few beers and watch the rugby. Is

:26:01.:26:07.

that your Mrs over there having a drink?! It is midday somewhere! This

:26:08.:26:12.

smells and looks incredible. So happy. Clams are really easy to cook

:26:13.:26:20.

with. I do linguine with chilli and some parsnip and garlic. It is so

:26:21.:26:25.

easy. People can be shipped -- scared of shellfish. Clams need a

:26:26.:26:29.

really good wash. They can have a lot of grit. You need to give them a

:26:30.:26:35.

good clean under running water. That is very much it. You have to be

:26:36.:26:40.

quick. You cannot leave them around too long. Clams do like to die quite

:26:41.:26:44.

quickly. Let's get some oil over that. This is incredible. Beautiful.

:26:45.:26:57.

If I move aside... I feel bad for the viewers. I wish I could love

:26:58.:27:03.

this at the camera. It is Comic Relief. Why not?! Let's get some

:27:04.:27:13.

wine. Look! To go with this we have got Marques de Caceres. Rioch arose

:27:14.:27:24.

a. It is ?6 74. That is a steal. -- Rioch arose eh. I was looking? A bit

:27:25.:27:31.

of garnish. You always need garnish. Beautiful. It looks absolutely... If

:27:32.:27:40.

you put this with a salad in the summer, it looks so nice. Food can

:27:41.:27:50.

be bland. The great thing about a dislike that is it is so full of

:27:51.:27:56.

life. The ingredients themselves make it tasty. Is it heavenly, Sara?

:27:57.:28:04.

It is absolutely heavenly. Have a glass of wine. Have you been off

:28:05.:28:11.

wine for a while? A little bit. One of my best friends is a marathon

:28:12.:28:14.

runner and she says it is fine to have a glass of wine the night

:28:15.:28:23.

before. You are marathon runner. Do you sleep the night before?

:28:24.:28:29.

Sometimes. Have you ever done a marathon? Give over!

:28:30.:28:32.

Well that's all from us today on Saturday Kitchen Live.

:28:33.:28:35.

Thanks to our great guests, Galton Blackiston, Phil Howard,

:28:36.:28:37.

the brilliant Sara Cox and wine expert Sam Caporn for

:28:38.:28:39.

All the recipes from the show are on the website:

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Next week Angela Hartnett is here and I am back in a few weeks!

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But don't forget I've got some Best Bites for you tomorrow morning

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MasterChef is back, to find the country's best home chef.

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The MasterChef kitchen is alive once more. Come on, let's go!

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