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Stand by for a mouth-watering menu of magnificent food

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Stand by for a mouth-watering menu of magnificent food.

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I'm joined by two top chefs of course.

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First the Spaniard behind a whole host of best-selling books

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restaurant, Dinner. of Heston Blumenthal's two Michelin

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Making a long overdue return to Saturday Kitchen,

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So Jose, what are you making for us today?

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Something from the Basque region? Yes, we are doing Merluza en salsa

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verde. Translate that? What was that? I

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thought your Spanish was getting better! It is a hake with a light

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sauce with an asparagus base and clams, from the Basque country. I'm

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doing brill with ginger and chilli. It is an ancient tribal broth.

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Apparently cooked from 723. 723 BC? Yes.

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Where is this from From Thailand, from recent travels.

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So two great recipes to look forward to and there's more fantastic food

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Today, we have dishes from Rick Stein, Tony Singh,

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the Hairy Bikers and Brian Turner with Janet Street Porter.

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With a man who has been around since 723!

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as she could actually make me say anything she wanted to herself.

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Welcome to Saturday Kitchen, Nina Conti.

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Welcome to Saturday Great to have you on the show.

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I'm a big fan. You are in the middle of a tour at the

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I'm a big fan. You are in the middle all over the world.

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I'm a big fan. You are in the middle crazy for you? Yes, crazy. I've been

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on stage many hours crazy for you? Yes, crazy. I've been

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already. But it has been fun. I love it.

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Comedy is fun, you have hit a niche, though?

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doing it. It take as lot of work? Yes, and a

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lot of trust. I use the people It take as lot of work? Yes, and a

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the audience, I put on masks on them, and I take their lead.

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What is that like? You speak to comedians, lots is scripted.

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What is that like? You speak to it like walking on to a stage not

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knowing where it will go? It is thrilling. They surprise me. I fall

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in love with everybody that I put a mask on, we go on an adventure

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together. I don't know where it will go. But maybe I'm lazy, the idea of

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sitting down to writing jokes, makes me depressed, so this avoids me

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Now, of course, at the end of TODAY'S programme I'll cook

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either food heaven or food hell for Nina.

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It's up to the guests in the studio and a few of our viewers to decide

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I really like meat that has crispy skin, that is like duck.

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And the dreaded food hell? It would be a scallop. I remember, I think I

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have only had one in my life, the consistency was so wrong, it just

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felt like it was not meant to be eaten.

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For food heaven I've going to serve the duck with another of Nina's

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I'll pan roast a duck breast then baste in hot fat until the skin

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It's served with cubes of miso glazed aubergine and finished

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with edamame beans, sesame seeds and some blanched curly kale.

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Or Nina could be having food hell, scallops and I'm looking to a French

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classic for this and serving them with Duchess potatoes.

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The scallops are seared, put back in their shells with diced

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vegetables then covered in a creamy herb sauce.

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They're topped with mashed potato, parmesan cheese and breadcrumbs

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and served with a simple baby gem salad on the side.

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But you'll have to wait until the end of the show to find

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If YOU'D like the chance to ask either of our chefs a question today

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And if I do get to speak to you I'll be asking if you want Nina to face

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You can also send us your questions through social media

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Right, cooking first this morning is,

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In eight minutes you will get Spanish food.

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Eight minutes?! Yes. Now, tell us the name of the dish?

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It is Merluza en salsa verde. But it is hake with peas and clams.

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We are going to make the lovely sauce with flour and the local wine,

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some stock and we are finishing with peas. And at the start of the

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season, there is white asparagus and clams.

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OK. So, garlic on the go first? That is

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the way. Now this particular region it is the

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Basque region. You have a book out about the Basque region? Yes, the

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book is called Basque. Of course! You thought long and hard about that

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title! Not really. The book is the same. It is about

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the Basque Nationalist Party country. It is about lovely recipes.

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Some from the local area, some from the interpretation of my recipes

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with the ingredients from there. It is an amazing part of the world

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that. It is northern Spain. There is also a lot of French inflewence? A

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lot. A lot. It is an impressive place. You get

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there the best seafood you can imagine, the best cheeses. I met an

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amazing guy, producer. He is a guy with 25 years making the best goat's

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cheese ever. Goat's cheese? Yes.

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It is all about that. The book is about simplicity, great ingredients

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and that's everything and cooked simply.

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Now, that is that. You have to fry well the flour.

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It is making a little roux? Exactly. This is the wine. What is special

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about this one? This is the local wine.

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It is lovely and crisps. It will go perfectly with this ditch.

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So -- it will go perfectly with this dish.

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So this is fish stock? Yes, this is fish stock.

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You want me to prepare these? Yes, two or three and put them in boiling

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water. This is the white asparagus.

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It is in season. It is a fantastic ingredient.

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It is straight in the pan with the fish.

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You can always buy fresh asparagus? I love it but I grew up with the

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tinned. You grew up with the tinned? I love

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it! I know. Come on, have some Jamon. But keep this quiet. Somebody

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told me you are working on something new? We are working on something, in

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a pub. Can you talk about it? Maybe. Explain where this ham is coming

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from? It is from and Lukea. It is cured for four years. Happy! Yummy.

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You cannot carve it on a machine? No.

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Now, did you salt the hake? I put some in there.

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Now, this is interesting. This is from the hake. In the Basque

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country they normally fry it or do it in pil-pil. They fry it with

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garlic, chilli, and fry this very lightly. A lot of people call it

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fish tongue but it is not? I buy the fish tongue but this is helping with

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the emulsion. Did he say fish tongue.

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No, it is not the fish tongue. It is this part, the throat.

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But, it is not quite that, either, it is just between there and the

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chin. Nice. This recipe is going to be in the restaurant.

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The restaurants you have, they are going from strength toe strength.

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You cannot get a table. Yes, you can! They are so busy but

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it is fantastic. Yes, the restaurant in Liverpool

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Street is doing great. I am pleased. Still the same emphasis with the

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tapas. Yes.

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It is great, when one runs out, you can make up another? It is all about

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the simplicity. About buying the best ingredients. The best peas, the

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best asparagus. But that is the essence of Spanish

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cooking anyway, simple ingredients? Yes it is the only way. Why

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complicate it. It the the? It is the same thing.

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Remember if you'd like to put a question to either of our chefs

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today then call us now on: 033 0123 1410.

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I'm thinking, you were brought up on these as a kid.

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I had a zoom, do you know what it is? No.

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You didn't understand me there? No. . But I think your Spanish is

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getting better, you can say jamon now.

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Yes. You are doing the last programme

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with me now. You are doing the last programme

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Well, there is one more next week. Right, this is it.

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We are nearly ready now. You want them straight in there?

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Lovely. Some more parsley.

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Come on, what else do we do? Come on.

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Come on, what else do we do? Come We just wait and eat ham.

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I know. But why not? Life is too complicated. People get crazy

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recipes. Do simple

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recipes. Yes, these crazy people with recipes

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recipes. from 723 BC and all of that sort of

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stuff! Now, tell us about the Supper Club in Spain? This is fantastic? It

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is Sofia's Gastronica. It is for those people who cook for themselves

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in a secret member club. So, it is like a cooking school?

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They are there for cooking and having a good time. It is like a

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social club but under ground. The women were not allowed to go

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there! Right, almost ready. a spoon.

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Too big. OK. We are ready.

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Can I taste a bit more of this jamon? It is all for you.

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I love this one. Can you imagine to be cooking with those guys in

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Gastronomicas. No but I remember Bernie Inns.

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Gastronomicas. You are being naughty today. I don't

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remember You are being naughty today. I don't

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You will have to Google a lot of things! So, that is the hake, the

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asparagus, the peas, the broth and things! So, that is the hake, the

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the tongue or whatever you want to call it. Recipes from the Basque

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seafood book. That is out this week. A bit more of that.

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Lovely. Then bread on the side? Yes, on the

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chopping board. It will look nice. Happy with that? Give us the name of

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this. It is Merluza en salsa verde. It is hake with peas and clams.

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Simple but brilliant. Thank you.

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Do you want to take that one? Yes, please.

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I will take this and more of the jamon.

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Right, you get to dive into this one. Your first dish. Amazing.

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Shall I just eat it now on telly and say yum! What a simple sauce.

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It is so simple. But a very well little amount of

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flour on that? Yes. . That is delicious.

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Right, let's get some wine to go with this.

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We sent our wine expert, Susy Atkins to Somerset this week.

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So what did she choose to go with Jose's handsome hake?

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I've come to the historic town of Taunton to choose the wine for

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today's dishes so let's head into town and take a look around.

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Jose Canas the first time I saw your wonderful

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Jose Canas the first time I saw your pick a white from your home country.

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The deco is a commonly seen great and an example like this would be a

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fresh in Ghana but I've gone for something more unusual, the Xarello

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Penedes 2014. Xarello is usually seen in the bed for that classic

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sparkling Spanish wine, Carver, but here is an example of it being used

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to make a still white wine. -- cava. There a green, herbaceous tint to

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the wine and I love it with the parsley and the white asparagus.

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Make no mistake, this is very dry and that crisp, racy acidity is

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perfect for my fish. Then on the finish, there is a hint of aniseed

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and phenol, creeping in a bit like a light vermouth. I love that with the

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wonderful is that killers of the clams. Jose, there has never been a

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more exciting time to explore the world of new Spanish white wines, so

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here is my latest discovery to match with your wonderful dish. Cheers.

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This is amazing. And it goes extremely well. Lots of flavours in

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there but what do you reckon? The wine is very nice as well!

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Delicious. Great combination. Very good, gelatinous and all about the

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ingredients, very nice. I'm very happy! Not particularly articulately

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about food, don't have all of these words for it. Have some more of

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this. What are you making? Steamed brill and a broth I learned in

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Thailand with artichokes, C beat and Chile.

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Remember if you'd like to put a question to either of our chefs

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today then call us now on: 033 0123 1410.

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Or you can tweet questions to us using the #saturdaykitchen.

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Right, let's catch up with Rick Stein as he makes his way

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He's in Croatia today and he's starting off with a look

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In the scheme of things, I have not had much Croatian wine in my time.

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But from what I have tasted, I like it. It is well made, pricey,

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virtually unpronounceable, strong, like so many wines these days, but

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lovely. The most famous of the Reds is dingatch, and the vines that make

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the grapes I find fascinating. They are like Paul, tortured creatures,

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like something from Dante's Inferno, fighting for a toehold in the stony

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soil, to stop them slipping off and into the sea.

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I've got no head for heights so just standing here is bad enough but the

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thought of having to go down that incredibly steep slope to ten these

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vines is terrible. I don't know how they do it. But the fact is, it

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produces this absolutely fabulous white, dingatch, and they say it is

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because of the stunted nature of the vines, they get a very low yield

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from each of them and presumably the roots have to work so hard, not only

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to get into the soil but to stay there. I imagine the wind that blows

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up the slope is huge. We, I mean, me and the crew stopped for lunch on

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our travels virtually every day. We just turned up unannounced on the

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off chance that there will be room for us. Sometimes, very rarely, the

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food is utterly brilliant. Like this. We're not supposed to be

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coming but we stopped for lunch on the way to the location and you have

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got black lips now and you look strangely alluring. Tell me honestly

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what you think of this. It is quite simply the best black risotto I have

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ever eaten. It is so black. It is sensational. I think what I am

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starting to think about Croatia and the seafood cooking in Croatia is

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that it is always done simply and absolutely at the moment. This one

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was made seconds ago. Your lips are very black! All right, all right! At

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least you won't see how much wine on drinking. At 16.2% you realise? I

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know! Are we working this afternoon? Yes. You know back at home they

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would not call this wine, it would be fortified, it is so strong. Cut

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there! No more driving for me. 16.2%! You have got to be joking!

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What is happening to wine? Could I possibly match how good that couple

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fish risotto was? Well, I'm going to give it a try in my lovely kitchen.

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This is cuttlefish risotto and it is very black. I'm surprised that

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cuttlefish is not more popular because it has got the most

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wonderful flavour. I guess it is because of the ink. If you buy whole

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cuttlefish, it is very difficult to avoid puncturing the ink sac and

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then you get it over everything and you can't get it out of your hair or

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off your hands or wherever it ends up. But fortunately, this one, they

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have taken the ink sac out before delivering it to me. I'm very happy

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about that. I does love the smell of caramelised

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sugars in cuttlefish, as it cooks over a high heat. It is just

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delicious. Now, some salt, just enough to make the salt police's

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eyebrows rise, and then chopped sure lots, about two, a couple of cloves

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of garlic and then risotto rice, in this case, arborio, probably the

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most popular. Now, stirred that around, making sure that each grain

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is coated and then pepper, as much as you like, and white wine. I'm

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using Pineau De Re Joe, crisp and unknown. And now, stock, a good fish

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stock, which I made earlier this morning. -- I am using pinot grigio.

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The secret with risotto is keep on adding the stock and letting it

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cooked down and then adding more and all the time, you need to be staring

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because what you are doing is making the outside of the rise break up

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into the stock and it gives you a lovely creaminess. I think that is

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probably about five minutes more cooking time. Now the bit I really

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enjoy. The cuttlefish ink! I should not bother to try to get coddle Bush

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ink out of the cuttlefish because it would be all over the place. --

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cuttlefish ink. Now, a very important... See what I mean? Are

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very important observation I have made about black ink risotto. Is

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that wherever it says two sachets, make it for. -- macro four. If it is

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just two it will be grey risotto. There's not a lot of flavour in the

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ink and it's not going There's not a lot of flavour in the

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Parrington if you double the amount. So, four in. I knew that was going

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to happen! Look at this. I know tackle oysters, spider crabs,

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winkles second! But they go pale at the

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sight of second! But they go pale at the

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the colour. Get over second! But they go pale at the

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colour. I'm just second! But they go pale at the

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looked like a lagoon in Venice, second! But they go pale at the

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a lovely sheen. Now I'm going to do a highly controversial thing. But I

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love Parmesan, a highly controversial thing. But I

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risotto but just in this one. I'm sure the Italians will say, "Never,

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never!" But this was Croatia sure the Italians will say, "Never,

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sure it had Parmesan in it. That is looking absolutely lovely, blacker

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than black. So now, just finish off with a bit of parsley.

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than black. So now, just finish off won't see but it is there.

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You can get hold of it fairly easily these days too.

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the other great way you can use it is in your own pasta.

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I thought I'd show you how to make it and then show you a great sauce

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This is really simple but firstly, it is all about the pastor. We have

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got 00 flour which goes into the machine. Two whole eggs and then I'm

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going to use 38 yolks. You can very be pasta recipe. -- three egg yolks.

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But it is all about this ingredient. This is cuttlefish ink. You can use

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the squid ink as well, same kind of thing. It is quite big. It is so

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crazy. Don't put your finger in. Will explain? Yes but it's used for

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all manner of things. We talked about bread, you can make it with it

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and it is a fantastic ingredient to work with. But you can see, it is

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quite big. I know, when it comes out of a squid in the water... It is

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dilutive then. But you put this on and it makes this dark. You will see

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as it starts to thicken up. Are there any other foods that colour or

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is quitting the only one? I would not have thought, not really like

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that. He's trying to think through his repertoire now but not really

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like that. Caviar, I suppose. Yes. That is like gravel. You work with

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it, moulding it and needing it and then you go through a pasta machine

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with it. And then you get sheets of it. All we will do is transform this

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into, like, little linguine, I suppose, by putting it through here.

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It looks like a squid. This is squid ink pasta. Then we will serve it

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with the Grabban are ripping us. So first, congratulations on your tour.

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It's amazing and it's been in the West End as it's gone crazy for you,

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globally. Globally? I don't know. We had a couple of clips that went

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viral on Facebook and got 11 million views but I don't know who is

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watching. Someone, somewhere. One of them was me yesterday. It's amazing

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what you do. The stuff that you do, it can be stereotyped a lot of the

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time, the old bloke with... Ventriloquism, yeah. Old bloke with

:28:03.:28:06.

a wooden puppet but you take it to a different level. I'm not the first

:28:07.:28:10.

EU is the masks. They have been around for quite awhile but I guess

:28:11.:28:13.

I'm the first really improvise with them. I did a lot of studying of

:28:14.:28:19.

clowning and improvisation and staff so that is what I'm doing. And the

:28:20.:28:23.

renter oligomers, now, I wonder if I forget to do it when I'm on stage, I

:28:24.:28:27.

get so carried away with what else is going on that I think "Did I

:28:28.:28:33.

remember not to move my lips?" -- the renter liquids. It is something

:28:34.:28:38.

that you always loved but I suppose, acting, because your dad is Tom

:28:39.:28:44.

Conti, and I suppose adding what the thing you would be pushed into

:28:45.:28:47.

naturally but did you rebel against it because he studied philosophy as

:28:48.:28:51.

well? I was trying to think of something original to do and I

:28:52.:28:53.

thought it might help and philosophy has a great sense of humour because

:28:54.:28:57.

it makes everything so objective. You just end up laughing at reality

:28:58.:29:01.

the whole time. I enjoyed that. But acting seemed like a bit of an

:29:02.:29:06.

unoriginal choice with my dad being an actor. I was grateful when I met

:29:07.:29:12.

Ken Campbell and he said, "Do this". Tell us about this guy because even

:29:13.:29:16.

interesting character and an interesting man with lots of unusual

:29:17.:29:21.

aspects. He was subversive and not dangerous at all. He was very

:29:22.:29:26.

talented but he never really appeared in mainstream theatre. One

:29:27.:29:31.

of the plays he turned up at, a 24-hour play... Yes, I did it with

:29:32.:29:36.

him. You could just turn up? Yes, you could just rock up and said,

:29:37.:29:42.

"Give me apart", a very strange way of doing theatre but he gave me a

:29:43.:29:46.

teach yourself ventriloquism kit and I was horrified. He was mysterious

:29:47.:29:50.

but I thought I loathed it but I had not seen it and I don't loathe it

:29:51.:29:54.

and I've looked at it since and I think is great. Isn't there a big

:29:55.:29:58.

thing in America that he said you should go to America and see? Like

:29:59.:30:10.

Comic Com but for... Yes, it is a printer on's content -- convention

:30:11.:30:14.

in Kentucky but it's also the home of a mausoleum where the puppets

:30:15.:30:27.

dead ventral quiz go to rest. -- -- T20. You go to these puppets that

:30:28.:30:30.

have lost their voices, they were once alive and now they are sad and

:30:31.:30:35.

staring. He wanted me to take his puppets there. It is a uniquely

:30:36.:30:40.

bereaved thing. The world's most famous puppet is the monkey. -- your

:30:41.:30:45.

most famous. But one of the things you are known for on your tour which

:30:46.:30:49.

has been huge for you is the fact you are in prompt you, you basically

:30:50.:30:54.

just make it up with the masks. -- in prompting. Normally you pull

:30:55.:30:57.

someone out of the audience but we have got Jose.

:30:58.:31:07.

So, come on out, Jose. For once, I am going to speak proper

:31:08.:31:18.

English? I don't know yet. We will have to put this on and when I see

:31:19.:31:23.

the mouth on you... And while you are doing that... We have the

:31:24.:31:28.

butter, in with the capers, the chilli, the garlic. I cannot believe

:31:29.:31:36.

I am doing this. Let me look at you. How do you want

:31:37.:31:45.

to talk now? I'm still doing your accent. Are you from? I I don't

:31:46.:31:52.

know, maybe Italy. What is going on? I am going to help

:31:53.:32:00.

on the dish. Can I do something? What are you doing? What is your

:32:01.:32:06.

name? Jose. I'm a chef. Yeah, I like to cook.

:32:07.:32:13.

We can see you on there sn. Do you need me to do something with my

:32:14.:32:19.

hands? You can. Can I have a drink? No, I don't think so. So, are you

:32:20.:32:25.

excited about the squid ink? I love it! I love squid. I am a squid.

:32:26.:32:33.

Yes, I want to be a squid and I want to float in the ocean and squirt my

:32:34.:32:39.

ink at the other fishes. Yes? Yeah. I love it James. I love you. I'm

:32:40.:32:47.

going to miss you when you go. Please, make him speak English. No,

:32:48.:32:54.

I am fed up with this racist stuff. You don't like that? I put up with

:32:55.:33:03.

it every show! Enough you, enough. The funny Spanish guy is tired now.

:33:04.:33:08.

I am done with this. I can't wait for him to leave! Where is the new

:33:09.:33:15.

guy? I want the new guy? When is the new guy coming? I can't not wait for

:33:16.:33:21.

this guy to go! There you go. Well, well done.

:33:22.:33:25.

That is brilliant. APPLAUSE.

:33:26.:33:30.

This is the hardest part of the show for me as well. Where were you for

:33:31.:33:36.

the last ten years. My English today was better. Well, I

:33:37.:33:42.

don't know, your Italian, maybe. So, we have the pasta and right at

:33:43.:33:46.

the last-minute, the crab. So white crab meat as well. Lime, fresh lime.

:33:47.:33:52.

Chopped parsley, garlic. Chilli, capers.

:33:53.:33:55.

It is exciting looking. There you have it. There is your

:33:56.:34:00.

dish. Dive into that. I will pass this to the guys, you deserve it

:34:01.:34:04.

after that. You have to recap, the pasta in the

:34:05.:34:09.

pan, a little pasta water. Brown off the butter. Lemon at the last-minute

:34:10.:34:18.

and the pasta water, chillies, garlic, chopped parsley, really,

:34:19.:34:24.

really simple, just fresh pasta and then the crab.

:34:25.:34:28.

I think it is crazy with the squid. Am I obsessing? Mmm! Happy with

:34:29.:34:35.

that? Yes, delicious. There you are.

:34:36.:34:38.

So what will I be making for Nina at the end of the show?

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I'll pan roast a duck breast then baste in hot fat until the skin

:34:43.:34:47.

It's served with cubes of miso glazed aubergine and finished

:34:48.:34:51.

with edamame beans, sesame seeds and some blanched curly kale.

:34:52.:34:53.

The scallops are seared, put back in their shells with diced

:34:54.:34:57.

vegetables then covered in a creamy herb sauce.

:34:58.:34:59.

They're topped with mashed potato, parmesan cheese and breadcrumbs

:35:00.:35:01.

and served with a simple baby gem salad.

:35:02.:35:03.

Happy with that? That's amazing. in the studio and a few of our

:35:04.:35:12.

Happy with that? That's amazing. Where can people see you? I'm going

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to Edinburgh and then a big tour from there.

:35:21.:35:23.

Right, it's time for our weekly taste of Britain from Brian Turner

:35:24.:35:25.

They're in Essex, and Brian is off planning a feast of sausages

:35:26.:35:29.

for later which gives Janet time to explore the region's most famous

:35:30.:35:32.

The salt trade has been synonymous with Essex for over 2,000 years.

:35:33.:36:03.

The Doomsday Book lists no fewer than 45 salt pans around the Maldon

:36:04.:36:10.

area. Today, the world-famous, Paddle Old Bailey Salt Company is

:36:11.:36:15.

the only surviving salt factory in the area. Established in the 188

:36:16.:36:19.

#0s, Steve's family have made salt for more than four generations and

:36:20.:36:23.

still operate from their original factory.

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So this is your empire, here? This is the River Black Water. This is

:36:29.:36:30.

where it famous salt.

:36:31.:36:36.

What makes Essex produce such brilliant salt? It is a geographical

:36:37.:36:43.

location that is important. Essex has a low rainfall than cared to the

:36:44.:36:48.

rest of the country. We have a beautiful day today, nice sunshine

:36:49.:36:52.

and winds. So it helps with the drying process and the soldity of

:36:53.:36:57.

the Black River Water. These salt marshes were used by the

:36:58.:37:02.

Romans? That's right. 2,000 years ago the Romans started to make salt.

:37:03.:37:04.

Cutting into the clay pits, ago the Romans started to make salt.

:37:05.:37:09.

water flowed in. A natural process of evaporation, wind, sunshine would

:37:10.:37:13.

help to create a brine in the salt pits.

:37:14.:37:19.

The final process of the eabration occurred in clay pots over open

:37:20.:37:24.

fires. So the salters, effectively on the sea wall, would boil up the

:37:25.:37:32.

brine in the clay pots, creating a salt crystal and then smashing the

:37:33.:37:36.

pots to get the salt out. The cap began to supply salt to

:37:37.:37:44.

Harrods in the 19 hundreds, then by the 501950s it was exported

:37:45.:37:48.

worldwide. What is so great about paddlon salt, what sets it apart

:37:49.:37:51.

from the sorred fare salt in the supermarket? Well, the look for a

:37:52.:37:57.

start. It is the pyramid shape. The flake of the crystals that you see.

:37:58.:38:03.

The soft texture when crumbling it between the fingers and the clean

:38:04.:38:08.

fresh taste that does not have bitterness you associate with common

:38:09.:38:12.

salt. I think we should go up to Maldon to look at the salt factory,

:38:13.:38:16.

to see how we produce the Maldon salt.

:38:17.:38:21.

Brilliant. Never mind the roamans, this is how

:38:22.:38:25.

we do it today. Where is the water from? The water

:38:26.:38:31.

is from the River Black Water. It is filtered and pumped into the pan

:38:32.:38:37.

here. Then bring to the boil. We take off the leave, the

:38:38.:38:41.

impurities... Like what I make damson jam. So you skim it off.

:38:42.:38:46.

Then reduce the temperature down and then we see the salt crystals

:38:47.:38:52.

starting to come up on the surface. When that grows, they break with the

:38:53.:38:55.

surface tension, and go to the bottom. So it is like snowing salt

:38:56.:39:01.

flakes. That process takes 24 hours. The next day we are ready to rake in

:39:02.:39:04.

the salt. Which is happening before you.

:39:05.:39:09.

We are putting it into the draining bins. It is left to drain for

:39:10.:39:19.

another 24 hours. So here you see the finished

:39:20.:39:23.

product. We have taken the salt from the Daning bin. It has gone into the

:39:24.:39:31.

drying machine. Excess moisture is erapated away. We are left with the

:39:32.:39:36.

dry product ready to be packed. So you can see it is still warm.

:39:37.:39:42.

Warm. Yes, it is warm and the crystals so big. Look at that.

:39:43.:39:49.

I know. Taste one. It's a beautiful sweet taste.

:39:50.:39:51.

Absolutely. It does taste good. I think I'm on to something! This

:39:52.:40:11.

area is renowned for some of the best pork in the country. So I come

:40:12.:40:19.

to Wick Manor Farm, who recent won an aye ward for Britain's best

:40:20.:40:22.

sausage. There is a good healthy smell here.

:40:23.:40:29.

Yep, that is a pig farm. So this is where the mums have given birth.

:40:30.:40:34.

So it is like a maternity hospital? That's correct.

:40:35.:40:38.

This is state-of-the-art? It is cutting-edge in the way that the

:40:39.:40:43.

pigs in farms and the pig let's are born. So we can make sure that

:40:44.:40:51.

everyone is taken care for, that the pigs are up and breathing and the

:40:52.:40:58.

pig let's alive and warm, so that they have in the optimum position to

:40:59.:41:04.

give birth. The areas here have a creep with a

:41:05.:41:10.

light so the pig let's can keep warm and the mum can lie down.

:41:11.:41:15.

There are 11 pig let's, is that normal? 11 or 12. Once they are four

:41:16.:41:21.

weeks old we wean them for a month. By then, the mum is looking to get

:41:22.:41:29.

away from them. So we move the pig let's away so that they are in a pen

:41:30.:41:35.

in their own. Then it is important for them to have a milk and a cereal

:41:36.:41:41.

diet. So this section is like chocolate gateux. It is strong, rich

:41:42.:41:44.

food. It is going to promote their growth.

:41:45.:41:50.

Then they come here. This is getting tonne for ten week's old. They are

:41:51.:41:55.

on the cereal diet. You can see it well when they are young, it puts on

:41:56.:42:01.

good muscle content. They get to 100 kilos with a lot of muscle and not a

:42:02.:42:05.

lot of fat. That is when we get hold of them. So

:42:06.:42:11.

the proof in the pudding is in the eating, so we better try it.

:42:12.:42:19.

We ebetter try it, yeah. Come on in, Brian, we better try some of the

:42:20.:42:25.

sausages. Baked in the oven, straight from the Aga. There you go,

:42:26.:42:29.

these are the award-winning sausages.

:42:30.:42:33.

Are they the same? We have different ones. We have pork sausage. Natural

:42:34.:42:38.

skins. No added fat. When you cut them open, you notice

:42:39.:42:44.

no fat dribbles out of that They are firm and good texture. Bags

:42:45.:42:48.

of meat in there. There is an old English one. That is

:42:49.:42:57.

more seasoning. Thyme, nutmeg, and seasoning, pepper to give it a

:42:58.:43:00.

Hershey flavour. That more seasoning S. That for

:43:01.:43:07.

Mijas bags of flavour. That is nice. As a chef we judge quality by

:43:08.:43:10.

looking at the plates that come back. That is nearly finished is

:43:11.:43:15.

that sausage, so you can tell that I like that!

:43:16.:43:18.

Still to come this morning on Saturday Kitchen Live.

:43:19.:43:22.

Tony Singh is making an emotional pilgrimage to Delhi in India.

:43:23.:43:24.

After a quick dance class he heads to a family reunion for a catch up

:43:25.:43:28.

and to enjoy some tasty home cooked food!

:43:29.:43:30.

Super Spaniard Jose takes on the Michelin starred marvel,

:43:31.:43:34.

Ashley in today's Saturday Kitchen omelette challenge.

:43:35.:43:36.

So there's no HUEVOS Jose will be able to take it easy,

:43:37.:43:45.

and he will need all his culinary EGGs-pertise if he is going

:43:46.:43:47.

to TA-PASS Theo Randall and claim that centre spot

:43:48.:43:51.

You can see the action, live, a little later on.

:43:52.:43:55.

crispy Chinese style duck with aubergine and kale

:43:56.:43:59.

Or food hell, scallops in white wine with duchess potatoes.

:44:00.:44:01.

You can see what she ends up with at the end of the show.

:44:02.:44:05.

Now let's keep cooking and up next is Ashley Palmer-Watts.

:44:06.:44:07.

We are making a simple broth with artichokes, vegetable base, sea

:44:08.:44:19.

beets, wild garlic and sea kale, a little bit of ginger.

:44:20.:44:24.

You said simple but this recipe dates back from a long time ago? I

:44:25.:44:29.

cooked with this guy who was 67 years old... He said that it had

:44:30.:44:35.

been cooked by his tribe ever since the tribe had been formed. And doing

:44:36.:44:40.

research on the tribe they originated in Mongolia in 723 BC. So

:44:41.:44:45.

this is the broth side of it? Yes. So I want you to chop the parsley

:44:46.:44:51.

finally. Then we are making a lime and a parsley mixture with olive oil

:44:52.:44:56.

and salt. That goes on top of the brill. Then we steam it.

:44:57.:45:01.

I have vegetable stock here. Then I'm putting in some jurors recommend

:45:02.:45:07.

artichokes. These jurors recommend artichokes,

:45:08.:45:11.

these are what they look like, similar to ginger but a different

:45:12.:45:15.

colour. When you peel it, you must look after it.

:45:16.:45:22.

Yes, so put it in some acidic water. A tiny amount of beginner in the

:45:23.:45:25.

broth, and then a little more ginger.

:45:26.:45:28.

So you were there with a group of chefs? Three of us went over on the

:45:29.:45:33.

way back from Australia. We just visited a few projects and

:45:34.:45:38.

that kind of stuff. It was amazing. You have a restaurant in Australia?

:45:39.:45:43.

Yes, we have one in Melbourne. I'm going on Saturday! OK. I'll check it

:45:44.:45:47.

out. Cashly pop in.

:45:48.:45:56.

So we opened there and we still have the one in London and Knightsbridge

:45:57.:46:02.

and Melbourne too. What about the ethos there? Is it different to

:46:03.:46:08.

here? They like the meat fruit there. What do you have to do for

:46:09.:46:13.

the Australian alyet, do you stick to the same? Everything is

:46:14.:46:16.

different. The chicken livers are different. We must adapt the

:46:17.:46:21.

recipes. Food is geographically different. Potatoes, chicken livers,

:46:22.:46:27.

fish. The fish are completely different there. They are more meaty

:46:28.:46:30.

and take more cooking than over here.

:46:31.:46:34.

So, yes, it is certainly interesting.

:46:35.:46:40.

Your recipes, like this one, it is also about history, is it similar to

:46:41.:46:42.

what you are doing there? Yes, Yes, we have the history of the

:46:43.:46:52.

restaurant and then we draw on Australian history as well. A lot of

:46:53.:46:56.

it starts over here first. How they have used that and then adapted it

:46:57.:47:01.

to their ingredients. What are you doing there? Wild garlic, Bonita,

:47:02.:47:09.

and some garlic and ginger. That will be the aromatic, steaming

:47:10.:47:10.

method. And over here, will be the aromatic, steaming

:47:11.:47:17.

parsley and a bit of olive oil and some lime zest and that is it.

:47:18.:47:21.

Exactly, we will seize on that and pop it into the steamer for about

:47:22.:47:26.

four and a half minutes. And your next job, it's amazing, this guy

:47:27.:47:30.

showed me the first type of curry chilli paste that he made and it was

:47:31.:47:33.

literally dried chilies chilli paste that he made and it was

:47:34.:47:36.

shack. This was in Thailand? Yes. chilli paste that he made and it was

:47:37.:47:43.

You just literally, it is garlic, chili and salt. I'm thinking, it is

:47:44.:47:47.

not really, this is a bit thin on the ground with ingredients. He just

:47:48.:47:52.

used water but we are using vegetable stock and slightly

:47:53.:47:55.

westernised ingredients. We are going to finish the broth with these

:47:56.:48:00.

leaves which are amazing, like cavity crystal greens. Where can

:48:01.:48:05.

people get them from? You could get some things like that from the

:48:06.:48:09.

supermarket now. Good food shops and anywhere on the coast, like in

:48:10.:48:12.

Essex, people will be selling this in local shops, I'm sure. What else

:48:13.:48:19.

have we got? White soy sauce and coconut water that will go into the

:48:20.:48:24.

broth at the end. People will not have used white soy sauce so much

:48:25.:48:27.

because they are used to it being dark. It is a different profile to

:48:28.:48:32.

soy sauce. Have a taste. It is rounder, lots of umami, a richness

:48:33.:48:43.

and strength to the broth. Not so salty? Not so strong so you can use

:48:44.:48:48.

more for better flavour. We have coconut water, white soy sauce, a

:48:49.:48:50.

bit of lime juice and then the chilli paste. Getting there. Keep

:48:51.:48:58.

going, a little bit more. Thanks! So the salt in that is just to give it

:48:59.:49:06.

something more... It helps break up the chilies. How hot do you like

:49:07.:49:12.

your Thai food? Quite hot. Eight out of ten? OK. This is quite pungent.

:49:13.:49:20.

You can smell it already. The important thing to do with that use

:49:21.:49:23.

chilies that you know and maybe dry your own so you know roughly how

:49:24.:49:27.

much to put in. If you are using different ones all the time, it can

:49:28.:49:31.

be a bit up in the air. It is making my nose run more than anything! If

:49:32.:49:37.

you want to see this recipe and more on the show on the website, go to

:49:38.:49:44.

the website below. When you started making food, you are looking through

:49:45.:49:48.

old cookbooks so are you still doing a similar sort of thing at Dinner?

:49:49.:49:53.

Yes, we have got inside with historians in England, in Hampton

:49:54.:49:56.

Court Palace are now one in Australia as well, lady from

:49:57.:50:05.

Adelaide. It is fascinating learning how they applied British recipes to

:50:06.:50:08.

the ingredients available and how it socially changed food. What dishes

:50:09.:50:13.

have you got over there that people would recognise? The most

:50:14.:50:16.

interesting thing is that Mrs Beeton used to have recipes for mango

:50:17.:50:19.

chutney but there were no mangoes here. They were traditionally made

:50:20.:50:24.

with apples and over there, they had a section in the newspaper where

:50:25.:50:28.

they would ask for recipe, for example, does anyone have this kind

:50:29.:50:32.

of recipe? Someone would send it in and publish it. This was about 1900.

:50:33.:50:37.

They were asking for recipe that were not Mrs Beeton's mango chutney.

:50:38.:50:41.

They wanted a proper recipe that actually use mangoes. We'd take it

:50:42.:50:46.

for granted that ingredients travel all over the world when in fact,

:50:47.:50:51.

they don't. There is your rocket fuel. That is all you're getting.

:50:52.:50:56.

That is rocket fuel. The kale is going in and I'm going with a view

:50:57.:50:59.

wild garlic leaves as well. Very simple. When you had that

:51:00.:51:04.

originally, it was a few leaves and water. It was taro root, Tamarind

:51:05.:51:10.

leaf, water and then this chilli paste, served with sticky rice on

:51:11.:51:14.

the side and it was... It blew me away. No fish or anything. He would

:51:15.:51:20.

only eat fish a couple of times a week if his wife had caught it.

:51:21.:51:26.

People know you also from the reason you went over there to Australia in

:51:27.:51:31.

the first place. Exactly, Heston has always wanted to refer this be Fat.

:51:32.:51:36.

Kitchen and you don't want to let everyone go. -- wanted to refurbish

:51:37.:51:41.

the kitchen at the fact that so we built a small Dinner and put the Fat

:51:42.:51:50.

Duck inside it for six months and then move them out again. 60 people.

:51:51.:51:58.

Yes, we refurbished the Fat Duck and they are in Bray and in six weeks we

:51:59.:52:02.

opened the second Dinner. You are doing air miles backwards and

:52:03.:52:06.

forwards. I know the playing quite well! Yes, so I think we are going

:52:07.:52:12.

for about that much. It is pretty fiery and right at the last minute

:52:13.:52:19.

as well. This is a whole new area of learning about food for me with this

:52:20.:52:24.

guy from Thailand. I'm just going to take the chili and the ginger out.

:52:25.:52:28.

I'm going to put some lime over there. Have a little taste. So you

:52:29.:52:35.

take the ginger out now? If you cook the ginger with the skin it is quite

:52:36.:52:39.

hot and spicy as well. That is quite pungent! I think that is eight out

:52:40.:52:46.

of ten. You can use anything, cabbage, Chard would be amazing. You

:52:47.:52:51.

can make it all about wedge doubles, to be fair. You don't actually need

:52:52.:52:54.

fish. But you could use anything, chicken... It is super simple.

:52:55.:53:03.

Pretty spicy. And available bit of chili right at the end. That would

:53:04.:53:08.

be amazing. -- a little bit of chili. I will just sprinkle that

:53:09.:53:18.

over. I will put that to one side. Some leaves. Just ripped them into

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there. And then just the 8.5 now! What is the dish? Steamed brill with

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an ancient Thai broth with artichokes, CBS and see kale. -- sea

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beets. You get to take this. It is eight

:53:45.:53:54.

and a half out of ten you reckon? What about ten out of ten. We have

:53:55.:53:59.

more if it's not strong enough for you. That's amazing, perfect.

:54:00.:54:05.

Amazing how much brave you get. Unbelievable, it blew me away and

:54:06.:54:08.

the link to history was the amazing thing. And vegetable stock with a

:54:09.:54:12.

bit of chile paste or the end. That is crazy delicious, amazing. Let's

:54:13.:54:18.

go back to Jordan to see what Suzi has chosen to go with this dish. --

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to Taunton. Ashley, your lovely brill with

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Jerusalem artichokes leads me away from anything over the fruity and

:54:55.:54:58.

toward something more subtle. I liked, dry Italian whites like this

:54:59.:55:05.

soave would be one option but I've gone for something from the South

:55:06.:55:09.

France instead. The wine I have chosen is this one. It is from dock.

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This wine is from a blend of grapes, famous in the Rhone valley in the

:55:20.:55:24.

south of France. It gives the wine a lovely rich, full text. There's a

:55:25.:55:30.

slightly spiced, gingery note to the centre and a subtle of yellow pad.

:55:31.:55:37.

-- to the scent. A subtle hint of yellow pair. This is the wine has a

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slightly savoury another the quality which goes very well with the dish,

:55:42.:55:46.

the Jerusalem artichokes and the wonderful wild garlic and there's

:55:47.:55:49.

definitely a hint of ginger on the roof palette which marries up so

:55:50.:55:52.

beautifully with the fresh ginger that permeates the dish and with

:55:53.:55:57.

that spicy touch of chili. But then on the finish, it ends on a fresh

:55:58.:56:02.

note. This is not a heavy or over rich wine and I like the usefulness

:56:03.:56:06.

to go with the lovely whitefish. Ashley, I have gone for the sunny

:56:07.:56:09.

south of France to net the perfect catch for your brilliant real. I

:56:10.:56:14.

hope you enjoy it. Someone is enjoying their food! I'm

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not stopping. Carry on. And a great wine, lots of choice but this one,

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particularly French, not something I would go with but great. Amazing, it

:56:25.:56:28.

goes really well with the round, rich broth, the

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goes really well with the round, spices. It's amazing how they go

:56:32.:56:35.

together. Stunning. And it is so simple. I can't stop eating the soup

:56:36.:56:39.

enough to drink the wine. Now let's head to Helsinki

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in Finland for more hairy adventures The city is not great for biking

:56:43.:56:45.

but luckily there are plenty of tasty treats to

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keep the boys happy. Well, how lovely is this? Hello,

:56:50.:57:11.

Helsinki. Plus, I have been told that the chassis are making waves

:57:12.:57:18.

with their new take on Finnish food. Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:19.:57:20.

Central Station, Helsinki. Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:21.:57:24.

you what it Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:25.:57:25.

it? Not what I expected. Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:26.:57:33.

city of cobbles, isn't it? Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:34.:57:43.

also coffee shops. In Look, the train station! Yes, Grand

:57:44.:57:46.

people of Finland are the biggest copy drink is in the world. I've

:57:47.:57:47.

heard this copy drink is in the world. I've

:57:48.:58:08.

know why the Finns are addicted to coffee. It might be the fact that

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it's pretty cold for most of the year and quite dark. You need

:58:11.:58:15.

something that refreshes you and picks you up. What makes this place

:58:16.:58:22.

different? One of them is the Coffey tonic which is maybe a little bit

:58:23.:58:27.

exotic combination for many people. And then we use these

:58:28.:58:37.

exotic combination for many people. machines -- particular stressor

:58:38.:58:39.

machines. Breakfast is ordered. Can we have two of those? Eggs, creamed

:58:40.:58:46.

using an espresso machine. Genius. Great, thanks. These are good. The

:58:47.:58:49.

first time for me, Great, thanks. These are good. The

:58:50.:58:55.

machine. Coffey and I like that, it is brilliant, very

:58:56.:59:01.

from a Coffey machine. I like that, it is brilliant, very

:59:02.:59:10.

grown-up. Well done, boys, fab. You I like that, it is brilliant, very

:59:11.:59:16.

could do a slimline. Not as bloggers as it

:59:17.:59:26.

could do a slimline. Not as bloggers good if you ask me. Actually,

:59:27.:59:29.

Finnish food may be down-to-earth but it is not stuck in a time warp.

:59:30.:59:33.

Finnish food may be down-to-earth Like the coffee, the

:59:34.:59:36.

Finnish food may be down-to-earth are giving the food is fresh new

:59:37.:59:38.

twist. And they are getting bearing brilliance from the green spaces

:59:39.:59:43.

dotted all over the city. We thought this might be a nation of foragers

:59:44.:59:47.

and it turned that they are right. They're legally entitled to go to

:59:48.:59:51.

the woods to forage. So we have come down to the woods today. Are we in

:59:52.:59:56.

for a big surprise? We certainly are. This is where a cutting edge

:59:57.:00:00.

chef comes for his ingredients. He is trailblazing

:00:01.:00:05.

chef comes for his ingredients. He Finnish cuisine. He is the real

:00:06.:00:08.

deal. He spent eight years working in some of London's best

:00:09.:00:12.

restaurants. But in the end, there's nothing quite like the taste of

:00:13.:00:16.

home. The best ingredients in Finland cooking come from wild

:00:17.:00:23.

nature. Wild fish, game, wild mushrooms, berries or wild plants.

:00:24.:00:26.

And the best thing about Helsinki for me as a chef is that one mile

:00:27.:00:30.

from the centre of Helsinki, you have all this. Paste this. -- taste

:00:31.:00:38.

this. It is grungy and juicy and succulent. A bit like pea shoots.

:00:39.:00:44.

Yes, slightly lemony as well. We have some violets as well. They look

:00:45.:00:51.

beautiful. Yes, but it is the taste and texture together that makes it

:00:52.:00:56.

such an amazing ingredient for me. That is fabulous. It's a bit like

:00:57.:01:03.

the Manila -- vanilla and armoured. It does not take long to get a meal

:01:04.:01:05.

for ten people! are even more adventurous with their

:01:06.:01:17.

food than I thought. In 2011, they invented restaurant

:01:18.:01:22.

day, anyone can set up a pop-up restaurant, anywhere, for a day.

:01:23.:01:26.

That is brilliant. I love it. So we are doing our on pop-up, cook-up

:01:27.:01:31.

with Sammy. Using freshly picked ingredients. The locals are gives us

:01:32.:01:37.

a warm welcome. Welcome to the Hairy Happening today

:01:38.:01:46.

in Finland. Tonight there will be lots of food, bikes and music! Enjoy

:01:47.:01:56.

yourselves! Great, let's make dinner.

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Finland's food and foraging God, what are we cooking? We are cooking

:02:04.:02:10.

wild fish. For which we have perch. Then peas, and stems, and the wild

:02:11.:02:16.

herb salad. We have the perch fillets with salt, sea salt, pepper,

:02:17.:02:23.

and thymme leaves. A little bit of butter. It goes

:02:24.:02:28.

nutty. What do you think of the Hairy Happening? Yes, it is great

:02:29.:02:34.

much Village lifestyle and close to nature. That is what Helsinki is

:02:35.:02:39.

about. Finland does not deserve the

:02:40.:02:42.

reputation for poor food. You just don't. We have great food. And we

:02:43.:02:51.

have the vinaigrette. With oil, and mustard. Awesome. That is fantastic.

:02:52.:02:59.

Sammy, would you say this is contemporary finish cuisine? Yes. No

:03:00.:03:05.

problems with the presentation. It is the colour, the textures and the

:03:06.:03:08.

flavour. Each plant is adding something. What I have here is the

:03:09.:03:13.

fresh peas and burdenock systems. So this is a peak season now for the

:03:14.:03:20.

burdenock stems. Before the flower comes, the stem is tender. I have

:03:21.:03:24.

peeled it, chopped it and blanched it a main or two with the peas.

:03:25.:03:32.

Similar to white asparagus, artichoke or salsify. Wonderful.

:03:33.:03:38.

So the fish is ready now. Medium. Look at that.

:03:39.:03:43.

It is beautiful. That is fantastic. That's it, pan fried fillets of

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perch with wild chives, burdenock stems and peace.

:03:50.:03:58.

With a wolf wild herb salad. I have to dive in.

:03:59.:04:06.

-- Burdock. Any good? That is fantastic! You know, Kingy, I think

:04:07.:04:13.

that the Finns are on to something with nature's larder. Foraging is

:04:14.:04:17.

main stream but it is much more than free food. So full of flavour.

:04:18.:04:22.

Perfect. Sophisticated and layered flavours.

:04:23.:04:27.

And the burdock root. This is tomorrow's asparagus! Oh, I'm having

:04:28.:04:36.

There'll be more from the boys on next week's show!

:04:37.:04:40.

Right, it's time to answer a few of your foodie questions.

:04:41.:04:43.

Laura is from cash rough. Are you what Nina could be eating at the end

:04:44.:04:52.

Laura is from cash rough. Are you there, Laura? I am, good morning.

:04:53.:05:01.

How is Scarborough. Always beautiful.

:05:02.:05:09.

What is your question? We have had some meat left over from a dinner we

:05:10.:05:22.

have had. What do you suggest, it is from Christmas. Well, take it, the

:05:23.:05:32.

meat from the bone. Anything yellow will be rancid. Fry it with an egg.

:05:33.:05:38.

Use the bones, clean them well and use them for a stock. You will get

:05:39.:05:46.

the best stock ever. So with the sauteed peas, some of

:05:47.:05:53.

the ham and the fried egg. Heaven.

:05:54.:05:59.

Heaven or hell? Heaven, please. And the tweet? Please, can you tell

:06:00.:06:06.

me what to do with lamb kidneys, other than devilled. I would make a

:06:07.:06:14.

lamb casserole. I would have a barbecue, jacket potatoes wrapped up

:06:15.:06:25.

with garlic and thymme and then the lamb's kidneys, wrapped in olive oil

:06:26.:06:30.

and salt, in tin foil and grill them.

:06:31.:06:37.

Next one? Do you have fancy desserts for Easter? Yes.

:06:38.:06:50.

It is very easy. A piece of bread. A slice of bread, soaked before, boil

:06:51.:06:55.

wine with spice, lemon and oranges, and with the juices soak the bread.

:06:56.:07:01.

Take the juices, the maximum that you can, out. Then fry it. Buttered

:07:02.:07:08.

with flour and egg first. Some sugar and some... So it is Spanish eggy

:07:09.:07:13.

bread? Exactly. You will love it. It sounds good to me.

:07:14.:07:19.

With spices as well. It is very typical in Spain for Easter.

:07:20.:07:23.

There you go. Right, back to the phones, it is

:07:24.:07:27.

Judy from Northumberland. What is the question? I have a

:07:28.:07:33.

couple of large bone-in pork chops. I would like to do something a

:07:34.:07:38.

little different. I wonder if Jose can give me an idea of how to do

:07:39.:07:42.

them with the Spanish flavour. I love that. Marinade them with

:07:43.:07:49.

chilli, garlic, olive oil and lemon juice for about six hours. After

:07:50.:07:56.

that, olive oil mashed potatoes and some grilled peppers. Just grill the

:07:57.:08:01.

chop and some smoked paprika on top and that is it.

:08:02.:08:10.

The peppers are they just red peppers sauteed? Yes.

:08:11.:08:15.

Sounds good for me. What about heaven and hell? Nina has

:08:16.:08:21.

been very entertaining, so I think she deserves food heaven.

:08:22.:08:31.

Next question. I would like chicken livers, I would

:08:32.:08:38.

like to do something but not patty. I think I would probably make a

:08:39.:08:45.

really nice saffron risotto and saute the livers and literally drop

:08:46.:08:51.

them on top with a little bit of meat juice.

:08:52.:08:54.

I was not thinking of that. Fantastic. Would you saute them off

:08:55.:09:06.

with a little bit of sherry? Yes, lemon, garlic, sherry, and saute

:09:07.:09:10.

them and lay them on top. What would you like for Nina, heavy

:09:11.:09:17.

on or hell? Well, I really think that Nina should give alscallops

:09:18.:09:21.

another go but because I like her, heaven. Now, the Omelette Challenge.

:09:22.:09:30.

The usual rules apply, a three-egg omelette as fast as you can. Look at

:09:31.:09:37.

him. Poised and ready like a sprung gazelle. Three, two, one, go! It's

:09:38.:09:50.

the concentration on their faces, you see? Look? Two-starred Michelin

:09:51.:09:56.

chef concentration! Oh, that is quick! You burnt the hairs off your

:09:57.:10:09.

arms there! You singed the hairs, you have. I can smell it.

:10:10.:10:14.

I have an extra layer. Mmm. Well, they are kind of...

:10:15.:10:18.

Right. Jose? Yes. Mmm. Well, they are kind of...

:10:19.:10:31.

Where were you? Here. Mmm. Well, they are kind of...

:10:32.:10:37.

quicker. A lot quicker. A lot, lot quicker. It is only 0.4 of a second

:10:38.:10:44.

quicker. It puts you here. A little further

:10:45.:10:47.

up the board there. Yes! Right, would you

:10:48.:10:53.

up the board there. an omelette? Yes.

:10:54.:10:56.

Thank you very much. You get to take that in your kitchen

:10:57.:10:59.

in Melbourne. Thank you very much.

:11:00.:11:04.

in Melbourne. You did it in 18. 76 seconds. That

:11:05.:11:06.

puts you in the centre of our pan. There you go.

:11:07.:11:15.

It puts you there. Mr Nathan

:11:16.:11:20.

So will Nina get her food heaven, Chinese style crispy

:11:21.:11:22.

Or food hell, scallops in a white wine sauce with duchess potatoes?

:11:23.:11:26.

Our chefs will make their choices whilst we join Tony Singh

:11:27.:11:29.

He's reached the city of Delhi today where he's meeting up

:11:30.:11:35.

This is brilliant! We're in Delhi, baby! The capital of India,

:11:36.:11:53.

population, 22 million. As I enter the outskirts of the city, I can't

:11:54.:11:59.

help but notice health and finances clubs everywhere. A rich diet and

:12:00.:12:04.

changing lifestyles have made India, the type two diabetes capital of the

:12:05.:12:10.

world. Maybe it is a sign. Wish me luck! So after a week of

:12:11.:12:18.

indulging myself, and especially with the Maharajah, with all of that

:12:19.:12:22.

food, the jacket is feeling tight. So I thought a little bit of

:12:23.:12:26.

fitness, a little bit of dance. The nation's waist lines may be

:12:27.:12:45.

growing but so is the fitness industry, now worth ?1 billion a

:12:46.:12:51.

year. As ever in India, the people here seem to keep what they love and

:12:52.:12:53.

embrace what is new. It turns out I'm a natural, or maybe

:12:54.:13:12.

the Bollywood moves are just second nature.

:13:13.:13:22.

That is fantastic. I've lost two stone. I'm off for a burger. What is

:13:23.:13:28.

hot in Delhi now? Momos. What is that.

:13:29.:13:37.

An Indian version of Chinese dumplings.

:13:38.:13:44.

Excellent. I am being taken to the regular momo stand. This is the

:13:45.:13:50.

first time I've had food here. It is not the traditional Punjabi flavours

:13:51.:13:55.

that I grew up with. So it is vegetarian. It is cooked on the

:13:56.:13:58.

tandoor. It has a fantastic ripe dough. The

:13:59.:14:14.

filling is garlic, chilli, onion and a fantastic chutney. Vinegar and

:14:15.:14:19.

chilli. Simple two ingredients, it is hot but does not distract from

:14:20.:14:26.

the flavour. The Punjabis came and changed the food scene completely,

:14:27.:14:32.

now this momo is Tibetan, now we have made our own.

:14:33.:14:38.

These young Delhis have it sorted. Work hard, play hard, after a

:14:39.:14:43.

Bollywood sweat class, they are out on the street. It shows how the face

:14:44.:14:52.

of food is changing from Tibet, Afghanistan, changing the food

:14:53.:14:54.

slightly again. It is always evolving. That is wonderful about

:14:55.:14:59.

the food in India. The traditions stay the same but they have the

:15:00.:15:02.

tweaks from whateverever comes in. It is my last day and I'm finally in

:15:03.:15:26.

the heart of the capital. Today, I will be reunited with the side of my

:15:27.:15:31.

family who stayed in Delhi. After travelling 300 miles from Amritsar

:15:32.:15:37.

as refugees back in 1947, from what I know, temporary camps were set up

:15:38.:15:41.

all over the city to shelter the millions of displaced people and my

:15:42.:15:46.

grandparents ended up here, at the red Fort. This was one of the

:15:47.:15:54.

refugee camps -- largest refugee camps after partition with 13

:15:55.:15:57.

million people moved every arbitrary line drawn on a map. My great

:15:58.:16:02.

grandparents did that journey. I can't even imagine what hardships

:16:03.:16:06.

they went through. We came down in luxury and fun, stopping and eating

:16:07.:16:09.

food and they did not even know where their next meal was coming

:16:10.:16:13.

from or whether they would make it. Imagine this full of people and

:16:14.:16:16.

tents. But you on the road for weeks to get there. And then you are

:16:17.:16:21.

thrown into this and that is for millions of people and we were just

:16:22.:16:30.

one family. And that disbursed Sikhs drab world. A million people died in

:16:31.:16:34.

that time, I can't even get my head around that. There's only 5 million

:16:35.:16:39.

people in the whole of Scotland. It is something to find out now, so I

:16:40.:16:45.

can tell my kids. I need to speak to someone who actually lived through

:16:46.:16:49.

partition. I'm going to see my great uncle at the family home, that sits

:16:50.:16:55.

on the same plot my great grandparents were given, 60 years

:16:56.:17:01.

ago. There you go. That is the house. My great grandad's name, my

:17:02.:17:09.

grandad's name, my grammar's name. It is so hard to imagine that when

:17:10.:17:12.

they came here, this was nothing, all farmland. This was the block

:17:13.:17:21.

going backwards, 15 by six, that was it, that is what they were given. --

:17:22.:17:26.

was the plot. It shows the heart of the Punjabi spirit, look at what

:17:27.:17:30.

they built, look at the house. They stayed and prospered and travelled

:17:31.:17:31.

the world. I'm glad to be home. My parents have flown over from

:17:32.:17:39.

Scotland for their regular visit. It feels good to see my mum. And my

:17:40.:17:58.

dad. They have arranged for me to spend time with my 89 you rolled

:17:59.:18:05.

great uncle. -- 89-year-old. I have only met him once. Tell me about

:18:06.:18:12.

what it feels because we are in Scotland and there is other people

:18:13.:18:16.

in parts of the world. He says it is great, God's well, amazing. He says

:18:17.:18:20.

it does not matter because we are of one blood.

:18:21.:18:46.

I am realising my family bond, like my Indian traditions, are strong,

:18:47.:18:51.

and that good food brings people together. My mum has cooked up a

:18:52.:18:58.

feast and this journey has shown me that her Punjabi cooking is the real

:18:59.:19:00.

deal. I came to find out if I can fit in,

:19:01.:19:12.

and I can. I can have one foot in Punjab and one in Scotland. And I am

:19:13.:19:18.

proud to have two strong, independent heritages that I can

:19:19.:19:19.

call my own. Right, it's time to find out

:19:20.:19:28.

whether Nina is facing Food Heaven So Nina, your Food Heaven

:19:29.:19:30.

would be duck, which I'm going to cook in a Chinese style

:19:31.:19:35.

in hot fat so it's nice and crispy, then serve it with aubergine

:19:36.:19:38.

covered in a miso caramel, edamame beans and finally

:19:39.:19:41.

some curly kale. Or you could be having Food Hell,

:19:42.:19:47.

scallops which I'll cook then put back in their shells,

:19:48.:19:50.

cover in a creamy sauce They literary

:19:51.:19:59.

don't want to put them in my mouth! -- look very beautiful.

:20:00.:20:00.

It's sprinkled in breadcrumbs and parmesan cheese

:20:01.:20:02.

and topped with creamy mashed potato then grilled.

:20:03.:20:04.

I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not sure whether they want to punish me

:20:05.:20:12.

or if it is what they want to weep themselves. Have obviously been

:20:13.:20:15.

kind, so it is a whitewash, 5-0 for the duck. We will get rid of this.

:20:16.:20:22.

Take those back to the restaurant! You know how good they are.

:20:23.:20:29.

I'm going to get Ashley to extend what we're doing with the duck

:20:30.:20:33.

breast but we are slicing the skin and it will be pan-fried, skin side

:20:34.:20:36.

down to get it nice and crispy but there is a way we can crisp it up at

:20:37.:20:40.

the end. And then I'm going to get Housego sort out the aubergines

:20:41.:20:44.

here. We're going to deep fry these. No need use salt or do anything to

:20:45.:20:49.

get rid of the bitterness because you basically cook them

:20:50.:20:54.

straightaway. Do people still do that? I suppose you can do. Are used

:20:55.:20:59.

to do it religiously and now I don't care. You don't need to because they

:21:00.:21:04.

are hybrids now. Then we have this kale which is lovely. Social media

:21:05.:21:08.

is going crazy and people want to know when they can see you. They can

:21:09.:21:13.

come to the Edinburgh Festival. That is fun because there's a million

:21:14.:21:18.

brilliant shows anyway. It goes on for a month doesn't it? Yes

:21:19.:21:21.

brilliant shows anyway. It goes on everyone goes mad. Does everyone

:21:22.:21:28.

still go? It's huge! But comedians? Reds we all go there for highs and

:21:29.:21:30.

lows and nervous Reds we all go there for highs and

:21:31.:21:33.

artistic inspiration. Then I'm on tour all over the country. I create

:21:34.:21:39.

a new show every night so it is all with three different and you can

:21:40.:21:42.

come more than once, because it depends on who I talk to, or who the

:21:43.:21:44.

monkey talks to. depends on who I talk to, or who the

:21:45.:21:51.

for you? We mentioned it at the top of the show. You must find it

:21:52.:21:54.

incredibly difficult because a lot of people go on tour and you see

:21:55.:21:58.

comedians with a rough idea of what they are going to do before they get

:21:59.:22:01.

out there. But for you, that is an hour and a half with nothing

:22:02.:22:06.

planned. But it is glorious because people bring so much and I end up

:22:07.:22:10.

with ten people on stage, whole families, everyone wearing masks,

:22:11.:22:12.

controlling their own and I'm throwing my voice to them when they

:22:13.:22:17.

are doing their bit. And then it is a complete scramble at the end.

:22:18.:22:22.

Everyone becomes like cartoon characters. But how do you do it?

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How did you train? characters. But how do you do it?

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those things you can do or you can't. It is to do with whoever you

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are working with. I used to play against type so if someone

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are working with. I used to play were but now it's more fun to try to

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work out who they are and go along with it. -- how outlandish they

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were. It is always a surprising show for me and I enjoyed doing it.

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were. It is always a surprising show Because I'm so boring! Imagine if I

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did the show without all that! It is very liberating for me to inhabit

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all of these other very liberating for me to inhabit

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characters. Can you get away with a lot more? You can get away with

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anything! You can say anything, having 16 Uros Celcer saying she's

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pregnant and the family all kind of go along this weird scenario. -- a

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16-year-old girl. I'm going to get out of the way. No, this is the duck

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breast. It is the in no time. That is on the skin side. Is that because

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it is organically not? And two trained chefs doing it as well. The

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glaze is lots of sugar and then you put water on it and this is the miso

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caramel and then we put the white miso paste, which is this... Do we

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have the spoon, there? A tablespoon? I thought you said tablespoon! It is

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the accent. Then we have some clear honey, this is a simple marinade. If

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you want, you can boil it and leave it and it is great for fish but

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alternatively you can turn it into caramel miso. As you cook it, it

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turns to caramel because of the sugar in there, you cook it for ten

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or 15 minutes and you have to keep your eyes on it because it can burn

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but as you cook it, it can turn into this. Really? You get this amazing

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soy sauce. I will show you the difference between the two. I will

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grab the kale. The aubergine is being deep-fried. This is what I

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learned from Ken Hom. Really hot fat, just frying the skin. It crisps

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it up nicely, a different way of doing it. You have been walking

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around all over the place this morning with this bag. What is in

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it? That is the monkey. Can anyone stand to have a monkey while they

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are eating. We have got a few minutes left. Is this the original

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monkey? The first property ladder? Yes, and I have been with him so

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long. This is exciting. But I won't be able to eat. " Hang on, Housego

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we're not that into it". "Housego You need to ask first". "What's

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That? Don't do that to me Ashley, I don't want to go in there". You

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might actually fit in there. It looks quite sinister. Do people eat

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monkey these days? Is the thing about the monkey in the middle of

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the table true?" I have heard that, that they decapitate a monkey.

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"Jesus, I hope that's not true". Just take this. Just you! That's

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really nice. That taste like jam. " How do you know?" Taste that one.

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That is really nice. Same thing. That one is more intense, really

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sweet. But fantastic with the aubergine so we're going to grab

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them. Drain the kale if you can. He could do it. "I'm Essentially an

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oven glove. I will take anything out of the oven that you want. Here we

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go. We will just warm up the beans and then we're going to plate this

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up. You're going back? "I Know when I'm not wanted". He wants an answer

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and so do I. Is it true? It's not true. It would have been years ago.

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But I think he is safe. By. "Take Your hand-out".

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Have we got the duck? You can do it in a Michelin style swipe or

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whatever you want to do. Over the top! There we go. Get that over the

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top. That looks lovely. And then we grab some toasted white and dark

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sesame seeds. A bit of coriander. I was lucky, I discovered a new heaven

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in your earlier dish. It was amazing, wasn't it? So let's grab

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some knives and forks. You get to dive in. It is sweet and sticky. And

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so fast! How fast was that? We had one conversation and you did all

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this. And a bit of monkeying around. We have an extra special pinot noir,

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2013, priced at just under ?8 from Asda. The crispy skin goes with it.

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I learned that from Ken Hom, as I said and I think with the sauce

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Micro, it is really intense. And the aubergine are delicious. It is

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deep-fried with salt on the top and the sauce reworks. Just to recap,

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when his Edinburgh? De Paul of August. And you are touring from

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September? Around the UK. I'm sure you got lots of fans today as well.

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Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me.

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Well that's all from us today on Saturday Kitchen Live.

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Thanks to Ashley Palmer-Watts, Jose Pizarro and Nina Conti.

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Cheers to Susy Atkins for the wine choices!

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All the recipes from the show are on our website.

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Simply go to: bbc.co.uk/Saturdaykitchen.

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There's more of our Best Bites tomorrow morning over

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on BBC 2 at 9.45am.

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In the meantime have a great day and enjoy the rest of the weekend!

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