23/12/2017 Saturday Kitchen


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Good morning, festive food fans.

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The big day is nearly upon us, so pop a log on the fire,

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curl up with a mince pie,

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and enjoy our mouthwatering banquet of top chefs and delectable dishes.

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I'm Andi Oliver, and this is a special Christmas edition

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of Saturday Kitchen.

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Welcome to the show,

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and joining me in the kitchen

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in their rather fabulous festive outfits

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are two amazing chefs.

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We've got spice supremo, Vivek Singh,

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and the king of seafood, Rick Stein.

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And in charge of Christmas spirits, it's the brilliant Susie Barrie.

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-Good morning, everybody.

-Good morning!

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-How are you doing?

-Good.

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Looking very perky and festive, are you feeling it?

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-Yes, very festive.

-As soon as you get these on.

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All the Christmas shopping's done, we're ready for this.

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Rick, what are you cooking for us today?

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Well, a bit festive, it's a seafood stew, Italian seafood stew

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called cioppino, but it's got the colours of red and green in it,

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-sort of Christmassy?

-A little bit of chilli, little bit of warmth.

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Yeah, bit of chilli too, from San Francisco.

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-Ah, on your recent travels, no doubt.

-Yes.

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We will talk about that later.

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So, Vivek, what are you making for us today?

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I'm doing a spiced roast breast of goose.

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It's a rather attractive centrepiece.

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I'm doing it with curry leaf and mustard-tempered potatoes.

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And a Keralan mappas sauce.

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So a little bit of pepper, a little bit of fennel, some chilli,

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a little vinegar and coconut milk.

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-So, hot, sweet and sharp.

-Really colourful.

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Really fragrant, really colourful, really everything, wonderful.

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Is that very Christmassy for you?

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It is very, very Christmassy in Kerala.

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Beautiful. Susie, what have you found us?

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I know, that is a bit of a challenge there, isn't it? Whoa!

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We've good beautiful wines from all over the world.

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Some France, some Italy

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and some that definitely will go with your spice.

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-Really?

-Delighted.

-Hopefully.

-I can't wait to try all of that.

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I'm hoping as well that you've got some non-alcoholic?

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We have got some non-alcoholic suggestions as well, yes.

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Look forward to all of it.

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That's for the drivers and the non-drinkers, of course.

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We have dug deep into the BBC archives for some festive shows

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from Rick Stein, you're everywhere!

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Nigel Slater, The Hairy Bikers and, of course, Mary Berry.

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Our special guest is a much-loved actor,

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whose soap and sitcom roles have made her a household name.

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From EastEnders to Goodness Gracious Me and Still Open All Hours,

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she's a shining star indeed.

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It's the brilliant Nina Wadia.

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APPLAUSE

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How are you?

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-How are you?

-Really good.

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I made this peppermint tea earlier with a teaspoon of honey.

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For yourself?

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-Just for myself.

-Is that one of your Christmas recipes?

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-It's a recipe.

-It's a recipe.

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So it's a busy time of year for you?

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Yes, yeah, crazy time of year.

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-This is, you know...

-Still Open All Hours is out again on Boxing Day.

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-So successful, isn't it?

-It's crazy.

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This is our fourth series,

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-and probably a fifth coming up next year, it's crazy.

-Amazing.

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But, really, today's all about the food.

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-Yes.

-You're here to eat lots of things from these beautiful chefs,

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but also we're going to be deciding whether you're going to get

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-food heaven or food hell.

-Yes.

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Tell me a bit about what is heaven for you,

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what is the best thing you could think of?

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My favourite thing, but I have it very, very rarely these days,

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is tiramisu.

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It's my absolutely favourite dessert in the whole world.

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And, something I've discovered recently,

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because I'd always been a milk chocolate girl, I love chocolate anyway,

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but dark chocolate, all of a sudden, in the last three years, oh!

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It's a palate thing, that, right? As you get older, for you...

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Yes, thank you for that...

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That's how it's worked out for me, for sure.

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Definitely, definitely.

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And what's hell, what is the worst thing you could think of?

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Three things. Two of them are vegetables,

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because I was forced to eat them as a child and I can't bear them,

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one is the very slimy okra.

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-Oh, I love okra!

-No, it's horrid!

-Delicious. It's all about the slime!

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No... It IS all about the slime!

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-I love it!

-The other is, of course, aubergine.

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My nemesis, which is why I created a character who hates aubergine.

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In fact, she loves aubergines but makes everybody else eat then.

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And then, the other thing is something I don't even like to say - pork belly.

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Pork belly, literally one of my favourite things in the world.

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Oh, my gosh, no!

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We're living at opposite ends of the Earth, really.

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-We are!

-So, if you get heaven,

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I will be making you a lovely tiramisu cheesecake

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-with dark chocolate truffles.

-Amazing.

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I will make a chocolate biscuit base and top it with a cheesecake of

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custard and mascarpone.

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Sponge fingers, espresso and spiced rum and finish it all off with some

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more rum, which we are going to infuse

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-into the dark chocolate truffles.

-What?!

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But, if Nina gets hell, I'll be making okra and aubergine caponata,

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with char-grilled pork belly.

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I really enjoyed coming up with this!

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I will soften the okra and aubergine in butter with capers, garlic,

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tomatoes and wine,

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and then I'll finish it with fresh basil, parsley and olive oil.

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I'll serve this with some caramelised fennel seeds

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and pork belly, and some deep-fried okra.

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That's double okra, just for you.

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-Yay.

-You can thank me later!

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But as we're not live today, there's no online vote.

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So what Nina gets is in the hands of fate.

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So stay tuned to find out how.

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Right, let's get cooking, shall we?

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Vivek, what are we making today?

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Right, so I'm doing a spice-roasted breast of goose

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with a Keralan mappas. A coconut and vinegar sauce.

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-That's what mappas is, it's a sauce?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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We'll also do a curry leaf

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and mustard-seed-tempered stir-fried potatoes.

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-Shall I get on with that?

-You get on with that.

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The potatoes have been boiled in the skin and they've been...

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Cut in half.

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Peeled and cut into half, so that's...

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So I've got this cinnamon and bay leaf in there first, right?

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So you're going to start with... Yep.

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So the bigger spices in first, and the fennel and the pepper in later.

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The ground spices, I don't worry too much about.

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-So give it a nice little bosh.

-Nice pestle action going on there.

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-It's really good.

-So I'll put these whole spices in first.

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Now, tell us a little about your new book, Feasts.

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It's absolutely stunning.

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The last book I wrote was on Indian festival feasts,

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I mean, the idea just came about,

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every time I talk about dishes and recipes,

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I'll talk about memories from how I remember things from the past.

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It would often come around a feasting table and I think back,

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and every time, it was something to do with either a festival...

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-Or a feast.

-Holi or Diwali or whatever it was.

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The manifestation... Or a wedding.

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..the manifestation of it all was always a feast.

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That's where most of the best memories came from.

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So it seemed like a natural thing for you to do?

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-Yeah, yeah.

-I'm really interested, actually, because in Indian culture,

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it's like Spain, just every five minutes there is another festival

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or a party. Do you know what I mean?

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-It's a fabulous way to approach life.

-Any excuse.

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Any excuse for a party.

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So what's the big one for you? Is there one in particular?

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Well, there's quite a few. One is difficult, if you ask me for a dozen, I'd probably get close to it.

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But...

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The biggest ones that most people know of are Holi and Diwali,

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the Festival of Colour in spring,

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and the Festival of Lights in the autumn.

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But then, we celebrate Christmas and Easter with as much gusto

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-as anybody else, really.

-Except you work right the way through.

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So, Christianity is a very small population

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in relative terms in India,

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only less than 3% of the population,

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which is Christian who celebrate Christmas,

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but even that is about 30 million people.

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That's half the country here, that's a lot of people.

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That's a lot of people. Rick, you've been to India, you did a whole show?

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I did, and I'm particularly interested in this dish,

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simply because it's genuine Christmas spicy food, you know?

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That is... People are always asking for different things from turkey,

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-and this is it.

-This is beautiful.

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It is the kind of thing you would make in your house at Christmas, Vivek?

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This is what I do. If I do it with guinea fowl, if I do it with goose.

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This is the kind of thing I would cook.

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In fact, better still if I was using the whole bird, I would roast it or whatever I need to do.

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And then, at the very end, whatever is left over,

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I rip it apart and use it the next morning.

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I love the leftovers, don't you?

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Yeah, but what's he going to do with it?

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Everything that is left over from the roast or the legs

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or whatever else you've got, I rip it all up, pull it apart,

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then coat it again in the same sauce that I'm making.

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So, this sauce here, the mappas sauce I was referring to earlier,

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it's onions, curry leaves, ginger, and green chillies.

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They've all gone in.

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I am going to soften the onions, and then I've got coriander.

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Does it matter what chillies you use?

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I like to use finger chillies, so they're hotter.

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The smaller ones are the hotter ones, right?

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The smaller the chilli, the hotter it is, usually.

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But not necessarily birdseye or incredibly hot.

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-Do you leave the seeds in?

-I leave the seeds in, exactly.

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What's the point of taking the seeds out?

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-That's the heat.

-You told me something interesting

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about garam masala that I didn't know.

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So, when you use... Because you use a lot of spices

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and people find it hard to balance spices,

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they find it a bit intimidating,

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they're not sure what should happen when.

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For you, garam masala is something that happens at the end of the dish?

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Oh, garam masala essentially means a hot, aromatic mixed spice.

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And a mixed spice could be anything.

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You happy for the potatoes to go in here now?

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-Yes. Got some seasoning in there, some salt.

-Yeah.

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OK. So, a hot, aromatic mix of spices.

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And aromatic spices, being hot, you essentially,

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I end up using them as a seasoning spice, finishing spice at the very end.

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The general rule would be, if you're using whole spices,

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you use them at the beginning of the cooking,

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so you always heat up your oil add your whole spices,

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the flavour is permeated into the whole dish that way,

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and you can cook with it for a long time, don't lose any of the goodness.

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So how busy are you?

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I mean, all the restaurants are open right through Christmas.

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I'm tired thinking about it. You're working on Christmas Day, right?

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I am, I do every year.

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Every year! And how busy is it in the restaurant for you, then?

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-Look at that, that's amazing.

-That looks really good, doesn't it?

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# Ooh! # It's making me sing, that's always good!

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When I start going like that, you know it's a good thing.

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So is it your busiest service?

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-Oh, it's the busiest service of the year.

-Isn't that amazing?

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We serve over 400 people just at the Club.

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We're open in Cinnamon Soho and Cinnamon Bazaar, everywhere.

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-Even in Oxford.

-Even in Oxford, you're busy?

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Yep, yep. This is the newest place I've opened.

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So now, for the New Year, what's happening for you?

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You've got Battersea Power Station happening, I see?

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Right, I'm doing a Cinnamon kitchen in the Battersea Power Station.

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Beautiful, beautiful building.

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Honestly, I'm bit of a sucker for great, iconic locations.

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So, the old Westminster library

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is where I started off with the Cinnamon Club.

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And the Battersea Power Station opportunity came up,

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and I thought that was just...

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It's a beautiful site.

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So I've got a bit of vinegar going in.

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Yeah, so that's what's happening here.

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Just a quick recap, your goose is rendered, you've turned it over.

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In here, you've got all of those beautiful spices.

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What's that going in now?

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Bit of the coriander, bit of the vinegar, it's all gone in.

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A little bit of the stock...

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And what does the vinegar give you in that dish?

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-That's the sharpness.

-The acidity.

-The acidity and the sharpness.

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It's not just a one-dimensional richness

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or sweetness of the coconut milk.

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You've got all of that.

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-OK.

-OK.

-Yes.

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Those potatoes look great.

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Are you ready for...? Are these ready?

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-Yep.

-Brilliant. When do you get a break, Vivek?

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I take a bit of a break at the end of Christmas.

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The first couple of weeks, as Rick would know,

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in the restaurant trade, is never the busiest time.

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January, yeah, it's pretty quiet.

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SHE LAUGHS

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So what does Christmas Day look like for the rest of your family, then?

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You're obviously at work?

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I start the day off with the kids.

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Then I'll go to all the restaurants and one of the places,

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the children will join me towards the end of the service.

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We can have a Christmas lunch.

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The main event for us is Boxing Day, actually.

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Ah, so what happens on Boxing Day, then?

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We do what everybody else does on Christmas Day.

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Oh, I see! You do the whole thing.

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And do you make goose, do you make turkey?

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Yeah, I make goose, I make...

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Well, not really turkey, I either do goose or a large capon.

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You're not a fan of turkey?

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-No.

-Look at the colour on those, it's so vivid, it's wonderful.

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Is this what you will serve in your restaurants at Christmas?

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One of the restaurants.

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-It will be on.

-What are the main things that people are eating

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and ordering, what are your main big sellers at Christmas?

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All our restaurant menus have several choices.

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It's about half a dozen choices on each of the courses.

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People will pick... There's lamb, there's prawns,

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there will be all sorts of things that people will pick.

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I suppose one of the things that will make it special

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of course for people is A, not having to cook or clean up,

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but then B, having choice.

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Do you guys go out for Christmas dinner?

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-No, we don't, never.

-Never.

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I'm sort of scared of not having leftovers.

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The leftovers are really important!

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When I started doing this, 10, 11 years ago, we thought nobody

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was going to come. It's not the kind of thing you do.

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You aren't going to get out of the house and not cook.

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But clearly, you were wrong.

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-I tell you...

-OK, so that's the beautiful sauce,

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-are we ready now with that?

-Yeah.

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-That's wonderful.

-If you could just take that out.

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Right, we're going to move this for you. Lovely.

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-Is this what we serve it in?

-Yeah, let's get it in there, my darling.

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Fabulous.

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Looking forward to this, guys?

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-Yes, very much.

-I'm actually, actually dribbling a little bit.

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Wonderful.

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This goose looks amazing.

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It's such a lovely meat.

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People are a bit scared of goose, I think.

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But they really shouldn't be. Look at that, how wonderful is that?

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-I've never had it.

-You've never had goose?

-No. I've had duck, but never goose.

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Oh, we love a first, that's fantastic!

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-That's fantastic.

-And I've never...! No.

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Wonderful, Vivek. So just tell us what that is, one more time.

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So, here we've got a spice-roasted breast of goose

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with a Keralan mappas,

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a coconut and vinegar sauce.

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Some stir-fried potatoes in a mustard-seasoned curry leaf.

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This is your Keralan Christmas without even having to buy a ticket.

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Without even having to leave home!

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Perfect, beautiful. Thank you, Vivek.

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How exciting.

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Let's get this over here. I know you guys are dying to try it.

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Look how beautiful that looks.

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-Oh, thank you so much!

-You're very, very welcome.

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We've got a little spoon here for the sauce.

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-The great thing about a goose breast is that you get a lot more than a duck breast.

-Yes!

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-Shall we put a little sauce on it?

-Yes.

-Look at that.

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Let's see what you think about that, Nina?

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This is your first time having goose, that's exciting.

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Bated breath.

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-Fabulous.

-Oh, my word!

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-It's delicious.

-That is unbelievable.

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It's a beautiful recipe. And the colours of it are wonderful.

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-What do you think about that, Rick?

-Erm...

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In me films, I've always got a mouth full.

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People say, "Do you have to speak with your mouth full?"

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Well, I do, actually, otherwise you've got to wait.

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But it's absolutely delicious.

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It's very mild spicing and lovely, pink goose. I love goose.

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It's interesting, so many spices and yet it's still subtle.

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That's brilliant, isn't it? Susie, what have you got for us?

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-I can't speak!

-Are you having a little party? A little goose party?

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It was a big mouthful.

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Yeah, I mean, it's beautiful.

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So what I've got

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is the most beautiful red wine

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from Sicily.

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And it's made in the appassimento style,

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it's a Nero Oro...

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Does that mean black gold?

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Black gold. So, the idea is that the grape is the black,

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the nero d'avola, and then it's just so beautiful, it's gold.

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They think of it as their golden grape, if you like.

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It's the indigenous, main grape variety in Sicily.

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So, the appassimento style, what happens is,

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the grapes are partially dried before they're fermented,

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so you get that concentration of sugars,

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and it means you get a raisiny,

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slightly, just a tiny little bit of sweetness.

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-You can sort of smell that.

-Yeah.

-You get the raisin coming through.

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Which is lovely. And the goose cried out for a red, but at the same time,

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you don't want anything dry or tannic, and with that spice,

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-that little bit of sweetness is beautiful.

-That's really lovely.

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This just makes me want to have some more goose.

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You are our guest, of course.

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Rick, remind us what you're going to be cooking for us later?

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I'm going to do this cioppino, which is a seafood stew with prawns,

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with mussels and with some cod in it.

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And it's a bit spicy, but it comes from San Francisco.

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And, actually, it's an Italian dish.

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So you've got things from all over the place?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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A lot of cooking's like that these days, isn't it?

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We take all the best from everywhere, make something wonderful with it.

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Now, Saturday Kitchen wouldn't be Saturday Kitchen, of course,

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without a foodie film from you, Rick.

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Well... I know what's coming up,

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it was a particularly wonderful experience

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at Port Isaac, of Doc Martin fame, as well as the Fisherman's Friends.

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And we went out lobster fishing, with one of the Fisherman's Friends,

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and then they sang for us.

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So let's have a little look at it, shall we? Here's Rick.

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Just along the coast from Padstow is Port Isaac,

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where some of my newest friends come from.

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# We're making money with this sound

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# Rattle them winches, oh

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# Soon we'll all be homeward bound

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# Rattle them winches, oh... #

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Music is in the Cornish fishermen's soul,

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but only recently has the rest of the world woken up to that fact.

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These guys from neighbouring Port Isaac call themselves

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Fisherman's Friends.

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# Rattle them down and stamp and go

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# Rattle them winches, oh. #

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I'm off with one of the boys, Jeremy Brown, to pick up his lobster pots,

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which, I'm pleased to see,

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have plenty of lobsters and crabs and then.

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Even some tiddlers.

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This is really good fishing, I must say.

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In Padstow, there is this lobster hatchery,

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and what they do is take these tiny little lobsters

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and grow them to about 2cm?

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About two inches, I think.

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That big? And then they put them back in the sea.

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And Jeremy's saying they get a lot of these in the sea,

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so it's good news.

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We just feed these up and throw them back.

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So it's almost like farming, in a way.

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It is, really. Except you're not having to pay for the feed.

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Well, this is it.

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That's just big enough, that crab.

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-Just made the measure, that one.

-So you've got quite an optimistic future, lobster fishing,

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and then you've got your Fisherman's Friends as well.

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-Yeah, it's all going on, isn't it?

-So how did you get involved in that?

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Well, we are literally all friends.

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We would have been down the pub on a Friday night anyway.

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So why do you think fisherman sing on boats?

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The sea shanties, obviously, on board sailing ships,

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were actually essential to bring up the heavy ropes,

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to bring up the chains for anchors and that.

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-It's like...?

-They'd have a chant going, like...

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# In South Australia I was born, heave away... #

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# Rattle them down and stamp and go

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# Rattle them winches, oh

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# Rattle them down and stamp and go

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# Rattle them winches, oh. #

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The boys will be back later at the banquet.

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One of the other stars will be this lobster dish.

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I've got my Breton chef Stephane Delourme

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to come up with a lobster pithivier.

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He's cooked the lobster for just a short time.

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It shouldn't be cooked completely,

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because it's going to be finished off when the little pies

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are baked in the oven, and he doesn't want it to be overdone.

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Steph and I are making what I like to call a shellfish reduction.

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I'm just cutting up these lobster shells here.

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What a lot of people don't realise

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is how much flavour there is in a lobster shell.

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I mean, also in prawn shells and also in crab.

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Once the smashed up shells are in with the sizzling vegetables,

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you add a large pinch of saffron and another of cayenne pepper.

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Mix it together and then flambe the pan with Cognac.

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Add a generous glass of white wine,

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followed by some tarragon and a pint of chicken stock.

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Now, that has to cook away for an hour,

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to extract all the flavour from the ingredients,

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before you strain the liquor into another pan.

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For the filling, Stephane makes up a fish mousseline with uncooked egg.

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I'm keen to use this fish. Fresh double cream, one whole egg...

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and some finely chopped shallot.

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And then with another egg, beaten in a bowl,

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he adds some of the reduction before

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gently folding in the smooth, creamy fish.

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Believe me, this is all worth it.

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The pastry is a straightforward puff pastry,

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and the filling must always be generous.

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The lobster hasn't been overcooked in the first place,

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because it will cook more when it's baked.

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And, of course, the fish mousseline will cook at that time, too.

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What would you have in Brittany over Christmas? In Quiberon?

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We will have a lot of shellfish, fruits de mer, normally, to start.

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We used to eat goose a lot, but it's mainly beef now.

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Beef en croute or nice fillet of beef.

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Of course, this is lobster en croute, really.

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Yeah, it could be lobster en croute.

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But, yeah, that's a bit posh for family.

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Before baking, just give them an egg wash

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to make them turn to a golden colour.

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And because he's a Frenchman,

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Stephane has an irresistible need to draw on them.

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But does make them look very pretty.

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Back to the sauce, to thicken it with butter and cream,

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and to prepare a chiffonade of basil leaves.

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That's very French of me, isn't it?

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Very nice. Very lobstery, isn't it?

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And the basil, just before it goes out.

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It comes out of the oven looking a bit like a high-class Cornish pasty.

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But don't be fooled by the looks, it would be superb on its own,

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but surrounded by that unctuous, creamy sauce with basil,

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and it reaches a new plane altogether.

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Just thinking, at Christmas,

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just the best bottle of old white burgundy I've got will go with this.

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I had it in me head, as I was eating that lovely...

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I mean, the shellfish, the saffron works really well

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with the lobster reduction.

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Very deluxe food, I'd say.

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-Bon appetit.

-Merci.

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That was a lovely looking lobster dish there, Rick, just beautiful,

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-wasn't it?

-It is, so...

-That pastry looked gorgeous.

-I would say that.

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Absolutely perfect for a special meal with friends and family.

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Now, I think a lot of people get fed up with some of the usual Christmas food.

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So I wanted to show you something that's a little bit different,

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from my family, it's my citrus jerk chicken recipe.

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-Oh, love jerk chicken.

-With waffles.

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-What?!

-Because we love a savoury waffle.

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Are you familiar with savoury waffles?

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-No.

-No.

-You've never had chicken and waffles, Rick, all your time in America?

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-Yes.

-I have been making chicken and waffles for years now, actually.

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I mean, I think when I first...

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At Christmas, any time of year, actually, it's a great one with the kids.

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You really have a fear of bland food, don't you?

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Yes, huge fear of bland food.

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Terror of the bland.

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Well, this one should sort you right out, actually.

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Fantastic. You know, I carry a tiny little Tabasco bottle in my handbag?

0:24:440:24:48

-Do you?

-You know, I heard about that,

0:24:480:24:49

I heard about you and your hot sauce.

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I do, it works really well as defence against attack as well.

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So you can just chuck it generally at them.

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-There you go, yes.

-So, Nina. Still Open All Hours.

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-Yes.

-Amazing show, amazing success.

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-Thank you.

-It came out, this is your fourth series, right?

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-Fourth series, yes.

-And it came out on Boxing Day.

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That's right, it was a one-off special for Boxing Day.

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And next thing we know, it got so many hits, because of course,

0:25:110:25:14

it has the iconic Sir David Jason and of course people remember Ronnie Barker very fondly.

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-Of course.

-And of course, all the gorgeous women in it.

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And that was it, they just said, right,

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we're commissioning a series and before we knew it,

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it's one of the most popular shows on Boxing Day.

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It's good, though.

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How many viewers did it get on that first massive run?

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I don't actually know the exact number but I know it was above 8 million.

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I have the number, funnily enough, Nina. It's 12.2 million.

0:25:370:25:40

-No way!

-Yeah.

-12.2?

-You smashed it, I believe they say.

0:25:400:25:43

Fantastic news.

0:25:430:25:45

Open All Hours was an iconic show.

0:25:450:25:47

-Yes.

-So was it a little intimidating to sort of try and recreate that and

0:25:470:25:52

-move it forward?

-Yeah, I mean,

0:25:520:25:53

this happened about four or five years ago.

0:25:530:25:55

They decided to bring back a lot

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of sitcoms that were very loved and I think some succeeded,

0:25:570:26:01

some not so much.

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This one, actually, really took off.

0:26:020:26:05

Because of the writer, to be honest,

0:26:050:26:07

I think Roy Clarke is such an amazing...

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It's the original writer.

0:26:090:26:10

And what he did was,

0:26:100:26:11

he actually made David Jason's character kind of graduate

0:26:110:26:15

to be a bit more like Arkwright.

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And I think that actually really, really made it work.

0:26:170:26:19

And who are you playing?

0:26:190:26:21

Tell us a little bit about your lovely character.

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I play this very gossipy, interfering, not like me at all!

0:26:230:26:27

How rude! How odd for you for them to cast you!

0:26:270:26:32

A lovely woman called Mrs Hussein.

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She's very quirky, very odd.

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And that's why I like her. I love playing characters that are slightly not quite right.

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-Yeah.

-I always find them a lot more interesting.

0:26:390:26:42

Slightly left of centre.

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Yeah, those are the most interesting people to watch, aren't they?

0:26:440:26:47

-Yeah, I think so.

-Yeah, and Roy sort of wrote her in after the one-off special.

0:26:470:26:51

I was very, very flattered, it was brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

0:26:510:26:54

And did you...

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All your characters, something I've noticed with you, actually,

0:26:560:26:59

is that your characters are quite warm.

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There's a sort of certain appeal to the women that you play, Nina.

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Thank you. Yeah, I try and make them all rounded.

0:27:050:27:08

I mean, even my character on EastEnders, Zainab, my goodness,

0:27:080:27:12

when they came to me and they said, can you do Pauline Fowler but funny,

0:27:120:27:15

I thought, how on earth am I going to do that?

0:27:150:27:18

She's a grumpy old, you know, piece of work.

0:27:180:27:21

So, but my husband said, just be yourself, which didn't...

0:27:210:27:24

But I thought, all right, fine, I'll come up with something and with her,

0:27:240:27:28

I thought it would be great if she was blunt.

0:27:280:27:32

So it was this really grumpy woman but blunt.

0:27:320:27:35

And she seemed to work.

0:27:350:27:36

The thing I found is generally with characters is,

0:27:360:27:38

nobody is either very lovely or very unpleasant.

0:27:380:27:42

Everyone has a mix of something in who they are.

0:27:420:27:46

And that's why there's always a little bit of warmth so people feel

0:27:460:27:49

empathetic towards that character.

0:27:490:27:51

Sorry to interrupt, what's happening in your chicken?

0:27:510:27:54

So much going on here. We've got chicken, we've got cumin,

0:27:540:27:57

we've got paprika, we've got coriander, we've got mustard,

0:27:570:28:00

we've got thyme, we've got Scotch bonnet.

0:28:000:28:02

We've got rum.

0:28:020:28:04

And we've got three different types of citrus - we've got lime,

0:28:040:28:08

we've got orange and we've got lemon.

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Because I just think it gives it a sort of,

0:28:100:28:13

because I find often that jerk chicken can be a bit muddy.

0:28:130:28:16

You know? It gets a little sort of down in the dark.

0:28:160:28:19

So we put the citrus to give a bit of brightness to the dish, basically.

0:28:190:28:23

-Amazing.

-And bring it back up, back up, back up.

0:28:230:28:25

Right, so here's one we've got marinated.

0:28:250:28:28

-OK.

-Now tell us a little bit about what's going to be going on

0:28:280:28:31

on Still Open All Hours this Christmas, then?

0:28:310:28:33

Obviously without giving too much away.

0:28:330:28:35

Yes, no, well, it's just hilarity.

0:28:350:28:37

It's old-fashioned kind of warm humour

0:28:370:28:40

that everyone from a four-year-old

0:28:400:28:43

to a 95-year-old can watch together and that's rare these days on TV,

0:28:430:28:47

to have a show that everyone feels comfortable watching and is actually

0:28:470:28:50

-genuinely funny.

-And that's on this Boxing Day?

0:28:500:28:53

That's on this Boxing Day,

0:28:530:28:54

and then it goes on for the next seven episodes.

0:28:540:28:56

And what channel is it on?

0:28:560:28:57

BBC One, of course.

0:28:570:28:59

Right, so this chicken is going to go into the oven now.

0:28:590:29:02

Got everything on there.

0:29:020:29:04

The rum is a really nice little addition to it as well.

0:29:040:29:06

Rum is often a really nice addition to cooking, I find.

0:29:060:29:10

-There was half a bottle in that.

-Just slip that in there.

0:29:100:29:13

I'm going to pull the other one out.

0:29:130:29:14

Those waffles are coming along nicely.

0:29:150:29:18

-Fantastic.

-Now, tell me a little bit about you and your food story.

0:29:180:29:21

Right, which one?

0:29:210:29:23

Well, I mean, because you grew up, so you were in India and then you went to Hong Kong?

0:29:230:29:27

-That's right, yes, yeah.

-And is this is where your fear of okra and aubergine...

0:29:270:29:31

-When did that actually happen?

-That was when I was still in India.

0:29:310:29:35

My mum was obsessed with getting my dad to eat the one vegetable he

0:29:350:29:38

wouldn't eat, which was aubergine.

0:29:380:29:40

And so she tried to make it in several different guises.

0:29:400:29:42

So that's why I created this mad aubergine character

0:29:420:29:44

in Goodness Gracious Me,

0:29:440:29:46

who insisted that everyone has to have everything in their life

0:29:460:29:49

with a small aubergine.

0:29:490:29:51

She was not happy about that.

0:29:510:29:53

So we did that. And then when we moved to Hong Kong,

0:29:530:29:56

my parents ran a restaurant called the Ashoka in Hong Kong.

0:29:560:29:58

So I ended up working in a restaurant from a very young age.

0:29:580:30:03

So I kind of,

0:30:030:30:05

I know how hard restaurant life is and I appreciate any hard work

0:30:050:30:08

that goes into it.

0:30:080:30:09

Because I don't think people get how difficult it is.

0:30:090:30:13

And can you tell me a bit about Parsi cooking? I'm really interested in that.

0:30:130:30:16

Sure. Well, I'm Parsi, I'm a Zoroastrian.

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And Parsi cooking is, it's for me, it's a blend of Persian and Indian.

0:30:190:30:22

It's kind of...that's literally that's what it is.

0:30:220:30:25

And I love... I'll be honest,

0:30:250:30:27

when I was younger, I did not love to cook at all.

0:30:270:30:31

In fact, I quite despised it.

0:30:310:30:33

And it was my mum, when I finally met the person I'm now married to,

0:30:330:30:36

said, "If you want this marriage to last more than six months,

0:30:360:30:39

"you'd better learn how to cook."

0:30:390:30:41

And she was right. Because he eats a lot.

0:30:410:30:44

So, do you cook with your kids and stuff at home?

0:30:450:30:48

Yeah, that's one thing that I absolutely love to do.

0:30:480:30:50

It's strange, it's a strange thing with kids,

0:30:500:30:53

I don't know if it's like psychology with kids, if they cook with you,

0:30:530:30:56

they'll eat the end product because they've put the effort into it.

0:30:560:30:59

Well, it connects them to the food, doesn't it?

0:30:590:31:02

That's why it's kind of important, I think, for kids to cook.

0:31:020:31:04

And what does Christmas look like around your house?

0:31:040:31:07

Absolute chaos.

0:31:070:31:08

-Is there quite a lot of you?

-There's, yeah, there's a few of us.

0:31:090:31:12

In fact, this year we're staying...

0:31:120:31:13

Normally we go to Canada, because my husband's Canadian,

0:31:130:31:16

so we go back to his family and I end up cooking there as well.

0:31:160:31:19

Over here this year,

0:31:190:31:20

my son's doing his 11 Plus exams, which are a nightmare,

0:31:200:31:23

so we'll stay back here and I'll just do everything this end.

0:31:230:31:26

But I might steal your goose recipe.

0:31:260:31:29

-Oh, absolutely do.

-Definitely.

0:31:290:31:30

But, yeah, looking forward to Christmas.

0:31:300:31:32

Wonderful. Right, I am plating up your food here, now, my darling.

0:31:320:31:35

Oh, wow, again, all for me.

0:31:350:31:37

So we've got two cornmeal waffles.

0:31:370:31:39

-Wow.

-We've got the orange and ginger chicken.

0:31:390:31:41

I think I can fit it all on this plate.

0:31:410:31:43

It's a little tight but I think we can do it.

0:31:430:31:45

I've made a little bit of gravy, because, you know, in my house,

0:31:450:31:48

-you have to have gravy.

-Yes.

0:31:480:31:50

Even if you're going to... Because I've also made on the side,

0:31:500:31:53

we've got a lovely syrup that we've made with honey, chilli,

0:31:530:31:56

more orange, more ginger, and some more Scotch bonnet, actually.

0:31:560:32:01

So the gravy is going to give us...

0:32:010:32:03

You see when you pour the gravy

0:32:030:32:05

and it sits in the little pockets of the waffles?

0:32:050:32:07

Makes me very happy, that.

0:32:070:32:09

-Right.

-That's just a small portion.

0:32:090:32:10

This is just for you to have a little tuck in.

0:32:100:32:13

See, I'm upset, there's five of us and there's only four pieces.

0:32:130:32:16

-Get in quick!

-This is an enormous plate of food.

0:32:160:32:18

-Good Lord.

-Give me one second, I'm going to put this...

0:32:180:32:21

I think some other people in the room are going to have a little bit.

0:32:210:32:24

-No!

-You know, the crew have all got forks in their back pocket,

0:32:240:32:27

-you do realise that?

-Yeah, come and get it!

0:32:270:32:30

And here is your chilli honey syrup.

0:32:300:32:33

That looks incredible.

0:32:330:32:34

That is my citrus jerk chicken

0:32:340:32:36

and cornmeal waffles with a chilli-spiced syrup.

0:32:360:32:39

But I've got one more little present for you.

0:32:390:32:41

-Right.

-Because of your Tabasco.

0:32:410:32:43

I brought you some of my home-made hot sauce.

0:32:430:32:45

-No way!

-This is really hot.

0:32:450:32:47

-OK.

-I warn everybody, people always go, "Yeah, yeah, it's fine."

0:32:470:32:50

I'm like, "No, no, really! It's actually really, really hot."

0:32:500:32:53

So it's got yellow bullet chillies and Scotch bonnet and turmeric

0:32:530:32:56

-and roast garlic.

-Wow.

-So I thought you'd quite like that.

0:32:560:32:58

-All right. Sounds good.

-There you go, my darling.

0:32:580:33:00

-Thank you.

-You get stuck in.

0:33:000:33:02

-All right!

-What will I be making for Nina at the end of the show?

0:33:020:33:05

Will it be her food heaven, tiramisu?

0:33:050:33:08

If so, I'll make a scrumptious tiramisu cheesecake

0:33:080:33:10

with dark chocolate truffles.

0:33:100:33:12

I'll make a chocolate biscuit base and top it with

0:33:120:33:15

a cheesecake of custard and mascarpone, sponge fingers,

0:33:150:33:18

espresso, spiced rum and finish it all off with some

0:33:180:33:21

rum-infused dark chocolate truffles.

0:33:210:33:22

How's that, is that working for you?

0:33:220:33:25

I feel so sorry for the three of you.

0:33:250:33:28

If Nina gets hell,

0:33:280:33:29

I'll be making okra and aubergine caponata

0:33:290:33:32

-with char-grilled pork belly, say it again, say it for me!

-No!

0:33:320:33:34

Pork belly! I will soften the okra and aubergine in butter with capers,

0:33:340:33:38

garlic, tomatoes and wine and finish it with fresh basil,

0:33:380:33:41

parsley and olive oil. We'll serve this with some caramelised

0:33:410:33:44

fennel-seasoned pork belly and some deep-fried okra, double okra.

0:33:440:33:47

Never forget. We're not live today, so there's no viewer vote.

0:33:470:33:51

But you'll find out what she gets

0:33:510:33:53

and how she gets it at the end of the show. How is that?

0:33:530:33:56

-That was unbelievable.

-Was it delicious?

-Unbelievable.

0:33:560:33:59

-Marvellous, that's what we like.

-Yes.

-Have you tried the hot sauce?

0:33:590:34:01

-No, I've got to, may I?

-Get some of that into you.

0:34:010:34:04

-I'll be very careful.

-Yeah, be careful.

0:34:040:34:05

You've given me a warning, there we go.

0:34:050:34:07

I mean, I'm quite pathetic, I think everything's really hot.

0:34:070:34:10

But this is definitely hot.

0:34:100:34:12

-OK, here we go.

-Have a little try.

0:34:120:34:13

-Right.

-Here you go.

0:34:130:34:15

-Quite warm?

-Can't feel my face.

0:34:180:34:20

Happy Christmas, my darling.

0:34:230:34:24

And now it's time for some seasonal treats from Nigel Slater.

0:34:240:34:27

He's got some great ideas for using up those inevitable leftovers.

0:34:270:34:30

What leftovers?

0:34:300:34:32

Not in my house, not really, not many.

0:34:320:34:34

The Boxing Day lunch in my house champions one of the greatest

0:34:380:34:42

Christmas tastes of all.

0:34:420:34:45

Every Christmas, I love to have a ham in the house.

0:34:450:34:47

I love the juicy pink meat and I love the fat, too.

0:34:490:34:53

But I also like the crust that I put on it.

0:34:530:34:55

This year, I'm covering my ham with a bacon crust.

0:34:550:34:59

Which I'm going to marinate in some maple syrup,

0:34:590:35:03

a good three tablespoons,

0:35:030:35:05

and then three tablespoons of black treacle.

0:35:050:35:08

Just cover all the rashers.

0:35:100:35:12

And then I'm going to leave this in a cool place to marinate.

0:35:120:35:16

Three or four hours minimum.

0:35:160:35:18

Next time we see that, the bacon will be very dark.

0:35:180:35:20

These flavours are going to intensify with time

0:35:220:35:25

and give my ham a luscious crust.

0:35:250:35:27

Now, I think the best way to cook a ham is poached in liquid.

0:35:290:35:33

And for me, it's got to be apple juice.

0:35:330:35:36

This nice, big, juicy ham and the apple juice will tolerate plenty of

0:35:400:35:45

aromatics, so in goes the onion, whole,

0:35:450:35:48

pierced with a few cloves.

0:35:480:35:51

You can just throw the cloves into the apple juice if you want.

0:35:510:35:55

I'm doing this because it's the way my mum did it.

0:35:550:35:57

A handful of whole black peppercorns and a bay leaf.

0:35:570:36:01

And then a couple of stars anise and that will give a very,

0:36:030:36:08

very gentle aniseed flavour.

0:36:080:36:10

And then I'm going to bring that to the boil,

0:36:140:36:16

turn it down to a simmer and leave it

0:36:160:36:19

for about an hour and a half on low heat.

0:36:190:36:21

This is one of those dishes that

0:36:210:36:23

will always lend a hand over Christmas.

0:36:230:36:26

Whenever anyone's peckish, they'll always reach for the ham.

0:36:260:36:29

Once it's had its time absorbing all those wonderful flavours,

0:36:310:36:35

it's ready for my marinated crust.

0:36:350:36:37

It smells gorgeous.

0:36:390:36:40

The bacon's got really sort of treacly and interesting.

0:36:420:36:46

I'm going to spoon a little bit of the marinade over the top.

0:36:460:36:50

The perfect partner to ham, is, for me, the pumpkin.

0:36:500:36:54

This bright, wintry vegetable has been softening in the oven,

0:36:540:36:58

seeds removed,

0:36:580:36:59

trickled with oil and given plenty of butter and black pepper.

0:36:590:37:03

And it's looking great.

0:37:040:37:07

A little bit crusty and black on the outside, and then really tender...

0:37:090:37:13

..on the inside.

0:37:140:37:15

While that rests and gathers its thoughts,

0:37:160:37:19

my ham goes into the oven for 15 minutes to let its crust darken

0:37:190:37:24

and the flavours intensify.

0:37:240:37:26

By now, the kitchen smells pretty wonderful.

0:37:270:37:30

The bacon is glossy, nice and crispy in parts.

0:37:330:37:36

Succulent ham in there.

0:37:360:37:38

Soft scoop of roast pumpkin.

0:37:400:37:44

And then I've still got a little bit of my apple juice.

0:37:460:37:48

Pour that all over.

0:37:500:37:51

It's a fabulous plate of food for a cold day.

0:37:560:37:59

The Boxing Day gammon never fails to delight.

0:37:590:38:02

Thank goodness there's plenty left over.

0:38:030:38:06

There's always that moment at Christmas where you think,

0:38:080:38:11

am I ever going to use up all those leftovers?

0:38:110:38:13

But this is a time that I relish.

0:38:150:38:17

Even those little delights sitting on saucers wrapped up in film

0:38:170:38:21

can be turned into the ultimate comforting feast.

0:38:210:38:24

My bauble and squeak.

0:38:240:38:26

Where anything goes, even that classic taste of Christmas...

0:38:260:38:30

..sprouts!

0:38:320:38:33

It's a sort of Christmas one-pan supper.

0:38:350:38:38

It needs a savoury base, it needs something to bring it all together.

0:38:380:38:44

So over a moderate heat, I'm going to soften the onion,

0:38:440:38:47

maybe even let it brown a little bit.

0:38:470:38:50

It's a dish that welcomes some juniper.

0:38:500:38:52

This is the spice that tastes of winter to me.

0:38:530:38:56

It's very clean tasting.

0:38:560:38:58

And I've got a bit of ham going in here

0:38:580:39:01

so it's going to work very nicely.

0:39:010:39:04

So these are my goodies.

0:39:040:39:05

This is the treasure I found in the fridge.

0:39:050:39:07

Rip the pieces into chunks and then drop them in.

0:39:070:39:12

I've got some goose there.

0:39:120:39:13

I've also got some bits of cold ham.

0:39:130:39:16

A bit of bacon, too.

0:39:160:39:18

I'll put the soft stuffing in.

0:39:180:39:19

And the crisp stuffing balls.

0:39:210:39:23

That'll work, too. I'm going to put these little roast potatoes in.

0:39:230:39:26

Give it a little bit of a stir.

0:39:260:39:28

Now, here, I've got the beautiful roast pumpkin.

0:39:280:39:32

This will hold everything together.

0:39:320:39:34

Just spread it throughout.

0:39:380:39:40

And then, for the special ingredient.

0:39:420:39:45

Those fresh Christmas greens that didn't make the big day roast.

0:39:450:39:49

I think this is the time to use up the remains of the sprouts.

0:39:500:39:55

It's just that injection of freshness and vitality

0:39:550:39:59

into what is a pan of quite rich, sweet flavours.

0:39:590:40:03

If, like me, you once felt that the sprouts outstayed their welcome

0:40:030:40:07

at Christmas, cook them up in this and I guarantee

0:40:070:40:10

you'll be surprised and delighted.

0:40:100:40:14

You can hear that crust forming on the bottom.

0:40:140:40:16

All the flavours of Christmas coming together in one pan.

0:40:160:40:19

This, to me, is what Christmas is about.

0:40:190:40:21

This is the perfect end to an indulgent Christmas,

0:40:230:40:26

and the best way to let sprouts win over even the most

0:40:260:40:29

resistant members of the clan.

0:40:290:40:31

Thanks, Nigel. Some top festive tips there.

0:40:360:40:39

Still to come, Mary Berry makes a gala pie

0:40:390:40:42

that is just perfect for the festive season.

0:40:420:40:44

She makes a hot water pastry crust, fills it with gammon,

0:40:440:40:48

chunks of chicken, pickled walnuts,

0:40:480:40:50

hard-boiled eggs and sausage meat and then bakes it to perfection.

0:40:500:40:53

It's just delicious. Now, at this time of year,

0:40:530:40:56

there's always a lot to do in the kitchen.

0:40:560:40:58

Those Christmas cakes won't ice themselves, you know.

0:40:580:41:00

Later on, we're giving our chefs

0:41:000:41:02

a very special Saturday Kitchen Christmas cake challenge.

0:41:020:41:05

That's not easy to say!

0:41:050:41:06

I can't wait to see who decorates the most impressive Christmas cake

0:41:060:41:10

but never fear, we've still got all of our puns.

0:41:100:41:12

This week inspired by all things festive.

0:41:120:41:15

And they are far and AWAY IN A MANGER the worst ones yet.

0:41:150:41:21

There's no rest for ye merry gentlemen.

0:41:210:41:24

Will your cakes be shining stars or a pair of turkeys?

0:41:240:41:28

Oh, I'm leaving. I'm done.

0:41:280:41:31

Will they get a frosty reception?

0:41:310:41:34

I ho-ho-hope it won't end in a ding-dong.

0:41:340:41:38

YULE have to keep watching to find out.

0:41:380:41:41

Now, let's get on with the SNOW! So, will...

0:41:410:41:45

Just terrible! So, will Nina get her food heaven?

0:41:450:41:48

-Yes!

-Yes, yes, you can keep saying yes, it doesn't make it true.

0:41:480:41:52

That will be a tiramisu cheesecake with dark chocolate truffles.

0:41:520:41:55

Or her food hell - okra and aubergine

0:41:550:41:58

caponata with char-grilled pork.

0:41:580:41:59

We'll find out later in the show.

0:41:590:42:01

Right, let's get cooking, shall we?

0:42:010:42:03

-Rick.

-Yes.

-What's next?

0:42:030:42:05

Well, Andi, it's called a cioppino.

0:42:050:42:07

It's...Italian origin, some say Liguria, some say Sicily.

0:42:070:42:11

-But I got it from San Francisco.

-Ah!

0:42:110:42:14

Where it's the signature dish of restaurant called the Tadich Grill

0:42:140:42:18

which is the oldest restaurant in San Francisco.

0:42:180:42:21

Your trip, your recent trip, through San Francisco, California

0:42:210:42:25

-down to Mexico, is just a dream.

-Oh, you're nice.

0:42:250:42:27

It's a wonderful show. You're brilliant on it.

0:42:270:42:30

You just look like you're having the best time ever.

0:42:300:42:32

Well, I mean, who wouldn't be having the best time ever?

0:42:320:42:35

-What's it called, the show?

-It's called My Road To Mexico

0:42:350:42:38

and it's actually, it starts in California, in San Francisco,

0:42:380:42:42

and ends up in Tulum in southern Mexico.

0:42:420:42:44

And it's on BBC Two?

0:42:440:42:45

Yeah, but it was actually a journey I made in the '60s, in 1968,

0:42:450:42:49

from San Francisco to Mexico.

0:42:490:42:52

So, in a way, and that was like nearly 50 years ago.

0:42:520:42:55

I'm getting too old, Andi!

0:42:550:42:58

But it's a journey I made and part of it was a sort of return to the

0:42:590:43:03

places that were quite formative to me.

0:43:030:43:05

-I'm going to pass this over to you.

-Oh, thank you very much.

0:43:050:43:08

-What else can I do for you?

-Well, I'll tell you,

0:43:080:43:10

this dish is a seafood stew but it has grilled bread in it.

0:43:100:43:14

Sourdough bread

0:43:140:43:16

rubbed with garlic and olive oil.

0:43:160:43:17

-Right, let's get that on.

-So if you can just slice a few bits.

0:43:170:43:20

-There's another bit of celery for you.

-Thank you.

0:43:200:43:23

-I've been watching avidly, the show, it's absolutely brilliant.

-Thank you.

0:43:230:43:26

There's some real highlights.

0:43:260:43:27

Some of the places you visit are just amazing.

0:43:270:43:30

What's inspiring about a journey like that for you?

0:43:300:43:32

Well, I mean, apart from going back over times when I was very young

0:43:320:43:36

and seeing how it's changed, it's just the food.

0:43:360:43:39

I mean, I just love the food of Mexico and

0:43:390:43:41

I fell in love with the food in Mexico

0:43:410:43:43

when I was there as a 21-year-old.

0:43:430:43:45

Simply because it was so exotic.

0:43:450:43:47

It's funny when I was watching you make that jerk chicken,

0:43:470:43:49

and you got the cornmeal waffles, well, Mexican is very similar,

0:43:490:43:53

very citrusy food, lots of coriander.

0:43:530:43:57

And everything that you eat in Mexico is with corn pancakes,

0:43:570:44:00

with tortillas. So it's sort of like very similar.

0:44:000:44:03

And it's also that mixture of well-cooked meat, generally,

0:44:030:44:08

and the lovely flavours of lime generally, lime, coriander, avocado.

0:44:080:44:14

-Oh, beautiful.

-And seriously,

0:44:140:44:16

when I was really, really young like that,

0:44:160:44:19

it was the first time I'd ever tasted anything truly exotic.

0:44:190:44:22

Were they new flavours for you?

0:44:220:44:23

Yes, I mean, I was used to Indian and Chinese in England, in Britain.

0:44:230:44:27

But nothing like that.

0:44:270:44:30

And I think, I often say tasting Mexican food for the first time,

0:44:300:44:34

proper Mexican as opposed to Tex-Mex, which is a bit different...

0:44:340:44:37

I think we're not really sure what Mexican food is here.

0:44:370:44:39

I mean, we know burritos,

0:44:390:44:41

but we don't really know, we don't have it here.

0:44:410:44:43

I mean, not really, no.

0:44:430:44:45

It's a lot fresher and a lot lighter than the Tex-Mex food.

0:44:450:44:49

But actually, this dish, it's part of my journey.

0:44:490:44:52

But it's from California.

0:44:520:44:53

What's interesting, it's very Italian,

0:44:530:44:56

but I think this particular sauce is also very American.

0:44:560:45:00

Because I can't imagine the Italians putting green peppers, celery,

0:45:000:45:04

-a good hit of chilli in there as well.

-Dried chilli flakes.

-Yeah.

0:45:040:45:06

Now, I was interested to see on your series, you seem to go,

0:45:060:45:10

you've been to India, you've been all over the place.

0:45:100:45:12

-Yeah.

-You seem to be very clear about what chillies do what.

0:45:120:45:15

Well, certainly, I think it's true in both India and Mexico.

0:45:150:45:19

The Indians have very specific uses for chillies.

0:45:190:45:23

And same with the Mexicans.

0:45:230:45:24

And also, what's great in Mexico and in India,

0:45:240:45:28

but probably more so in Mexico, is dried chillies.

0:45:280:45:31

-Right.

-And they dry them in such a way and they use particular chillies

0:45:310:45:34

that give a lovely fruity, chocolate fruitiness to a lot of sauces.

0:45:340:45:38

-A fragrance.

-Fragrance.

0:45:380:45:40

And I suppose the one we know best in this country is chipotle,

0:45:400:45:43

because they smoke that as well.

0:45:430:45:45

Smoked jalapeno.

0:45:450:45:46

Where would a barbecue sauce be without smoked chipotle?

0:45:460:45:50

But what I'm doing here, I've just got that cooking away,

0:45:500:45:53

my sauce there, and I'm just going to make a little thing called a gastrique.

0:45:530:45:56

Which is a bit of a tip.

0:45:560:45:58

Give us a tip, we like tips. Especially from you, sir.

0:45:580:46:00

If you're making a tomato sauce, essentially, this is like a sort of,

0:46:020:46:06

yeah, this is a tomato-based sauce.

0:46:060:46:08

If you just put a bit of sugar and a bit of vinegar

0:46:080:46:11

-and boil that down a bit, right?

-Yeah.

0:46:110:46:13

It just gives this really elusive sweetness.

0:46:130:46:16

So this is a French thing?

0:46:160:46:18

-Yeah, it is.

-So we're going all over the globe.

0:46:180:46:20

Definitely. But, I mean, I think it's something that you learn

0:46:200:46:23

when you travel that you can take ideas from one culture

0:46:230:46:26

and put them into another.

0:46:260:46:28

And I most notice that,

0:46:280:46:29

funnily enough this is a bit of oregano going on in here

0:46:290:46:32

which is very, actually very Italian and Mexican.

0:46:320:46:36

-Or-egano, even.

-Or-egano.

0:46:370:46:40

When you went back on this journey, after 50-odd years,

0:46:400:46:43

did you notice any changes in the way people eat?

0:46:430:46:46

Well, not particularly.

0:46:460:46:47

I certainly noticed the way people eat in California,

0:46:470:46:50

they're very health conscious.

0:46:500:46:51

You don't get, I thought I was going to be really snooty about it

0:46:510:46:55

and say, "Oh, they've all got allergies and all this."

0:46:550:46:58

But, you know, people have got allergies and Californians

0:46:580:47:01

-really look after them well.

-That was a big change.

0:47:010:47:04

And they're really into healthy eating, really into this...

0:47:040:47:07

There's a very famous vegan restaurant we went to, which actually...

0:47:070:47:10

-Was it great?

-It could almost get up there with

0:47:100:47:13

the Indian vegan restaurants, it was so inventive in flavour.

0:47:130:47:16

Now, the other place that looked amazing,

0:47:160:47:18

have you guys seen the series?

0:47:180:47:20

It's a beautiful series, if you haven't watched it,

0:47:200:47:22

just get it on the iPlayer and watch it.

0:47:220:47:24

There's an amazing... La Cocina de Dona Esthela.

0:47:240:47:28

Apparently the best breakfast in the world, tell me about that?

0:47:280:47:31

I will. Tomato gone in, the gastrique gone in.

0:47:310:47:34

I think we'll move over now to the one we made earlier.

0:47:340:47:37

But before that, I'm just going to take...

0:47:370:47:39

I've already done the prawns here.

0:47:390:47:41

-Talk us through that.

-I forgot to put the white wine in there,

0:47:410:47:44

spilt half the worktop.

0:47:440:47:45

-Whack it in, darling.

-So, I kept the prawn heads, right?

0:47:450:47:48

And I'm just going to put them in there with a bit of fish stock,

0:47:480:47:51

-rather than water.

-Lots of flavour.

0:47:510:47:53

Lots of flavour, and don't throw away prawn shells, they're very,

0:47:530:47:56

very good for flavouring a stock.

0:47:560:47:58

Gives you some ballast, gives you some real depth of flavour, right?

0:47:580:48:01

Absolutely, absolutely. Flavour for nothing, you know?

0:48:010:48:04

It always slightly upsets me when

0:48:040:48:06

you see people throw things like that away.

0:48:060:48:08

You know, protein, particularly seafood,

0:48:080:48:11

is so incredibly expensive and valuable, don't throw anything away,

0:48:110:48:15

-use everything you can.

-Use everything.

0:48:150:48:18

Right, if you would like to try Rick's recipe or of course any of

0:48:180:48:21

our studio dishes, then just visit our website,

0:48:210:48:23

bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen

0:48:230:48:26

Right, over here now...

0:48:260:48:28

Now Dona Esthela, I'm dying to know about it.

0:48:280:48:30

It was just this wonderful restaurant

0:48:300:48:32

in the Valle de Guadalupe,

0:48:320:48:34

which is the Guadalupe Valley,

0:48:340:48:35

which is where they make the best wines.

0:48:350:48:38

So I've just done this stock now,

0:48:380:48:39

I'm going to pour that into my reduced...

0:48:390:48:41

I'm going to get rid of this, because we'll plate up in a minute.

0:48:410:48:44

There's the prawn stock going in there.

0:48:440:48:47

But it's a bit, they like to say it's Mexico's version of the Napa,

0:48:470:48:51

it's in Baja, California,

0:48:510:48:54

and it's this very good area for growing really good wines

0:48:540:48:57

and the best Mexican wines come from there.

0:48:570:49:00

But this woman just opened a breakfast place.

0:49:000:49:02

You've got to drive from the sea,

0:49:020:49:04

because Baja California's on the Pacific,

0:49:040:49:07

inland about three quarters of an hour for breakfast.

0:49:070:49:09

But for breakfast...

0:49:090:49:10

You look quite cross about that, actually.

0:49:100:49:13

It's just, like, I was just thinking, I need my coffee!

0:49:130:49:16

Sorry! I'm just going to cook these all now.

0:49:160:49:19

We're going to start plating up in a minute, yeah.

0:49:190:49:22

I was just amazed that so many people went out there.

0:49:220:49:25

-I know, it was really busy.

-Yeah, really busy.

0:49:250:49:28

And not just with the locals,

0:49:280:49:30

but there were buses of people, because it's so famous.

0:49:300:49:34

And she'd done something quite extraordinary with that lamb?

0:49:340:49:38

Yes, it's called borrego,

0:49:380:49:39

it's like very slow-cooked lamb, but it's cooked with agave,

0:49:390:49:43

you know that they make tequila?

0:49:430:49:45

-Cactus.

-But with the leaves, just to keep it all moist.

0:49:450:49:48

-How much of this do you want in there?

-Just two pieces, I think.

0:49:480:49:51

Two pieces? Let's put a big one and a smaller one.

0:49:510:49:53

-That's just cooking for a few minutes.

-How long would the stew normally cook for?

0:49:530:49:56

I would give this, once it's boiling, about two or three minutes.

0:49:560:50:00

So that's going to go on the bottom to form the base?

0:50:000:50:02

-That's right.

-And was it worth the journey?

0:50:020:50:04

It so was, but more than anything, Dona Esthela was...

0:50:040:50:07

One of the great things I think in the Mexican programme is

0:50:070:50:11

the people, they're so friendly and so sort of into what they're doing.

0:50:110:50:16

She's like a natural cook.

0:50:160:50:17

You know when you see people tasting everything all the time

0:50:170:50:20

and sort of like really worried that it turns out well?

0:50:200:50:23

Yeah, every single day.

0:50:230:50:25

-Yeah, absolutely.

-Every single day they go back and make it perfect every single time.

0:50:250:50:29

The book is absolutely wonderful.

0:50:290:50:31

-Thank you very much.

-What have you got coming up next, then?

0:50:310:50:33

Well, next, I'm going to have a bit of a break, really.

0:50:330:50:36

-I'm going off to Australia for Christmas.

-Lovely.

0:50:360:50:39

And my wife's Australian family,

0:50:390:50:42

they have turkey at Christmas,

0:50:420:50:45

but they also have ham and they have beef.

0:50:450:50:48

And I'm not allowed to cook any of that stuff

0:50:480:50:51

because it's a big family, I'm just doing the veg.

0:50:510:50:54

-You're doing...

-But I'm very happy because...

0:50:540:50:56

Are you making vegetarian food or are you just doing the sides?

0:50:560:50:59

Oh, I'm doing the veg, but I'm going to just, you know,

0:50:590:51:02

tweak it a little bit, not too much.

0:51:020:51:03

But actually, I think the main thing,

0:51:030:51:06

the thing that I really like at Christmas are the veg.

0:51:060:51:09

I just do this dish of carrots and I take the carrots down till they're

0:51:090:51:14

sort of caramelised with a bit of sugar in there, salt and butter,

0:51:140:51:18

and tarragon, fresh tarragon.

0:51:180:51:20

-Beautiful.

-And sometimes I put some fresh beans in there,

0:51:200:51:22

sometimes some fresh broad beans or peas.

0:51:220:51:25

-Certainly Australia in the summer.

-Does it feel like Christmas still in Australia?

0:51:250:51:29

Well, they all run around in Santa Claus outfits.

0:51:290:51:31

I sometimes say to them,

0:51:310:51:33

but they don't really care for me saying this too much,

0:51:330:51:36

ever thought of doing Christmas in July?

0:51:360:51:38

It might have a better feel to it!

0:51:380:51:40

Are you ready for this parsley now, sir?

0:51:400:51:42

-Yeah, let's pour it on top.

-How much do you want?

0:51:420:51:44

-Show me how much you want.

-That's beautiful.

-Beautiful, there we go.

0:51:440:51:47

Tell us what that is one more time.

0:51:470:51:49

This is cioppino, which is a seafood stew of cod,

0:51:490:51:53

prawns and mussels with a tomato and green pepper base.

0:51:530:51:57

Smells incredible.

0:51:570:51:58

-It does, actually.

-Thank you so much.

0:51:580:52:00

Marvellous, thank you so much.

0:52:040:52:06

Look at how beautiful this is, guys.

0:52:060:52:08

It's quite a nice day today, isn't it?

0:52:080:52:11

-I went a bit wild with the chilli.

-A very good day.

0:52:110:52:13

-A bit wild with the chilli?

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-Chilli madness!

0:52:130:52:16

Why not. It's always a bit of Christmas chilli.

0:52:160:52:19

-Nina?

-Yes, may I?

-Let's see what you think about that, Nina.

0:52:190:52:22

Right, let's try it. Oh, my word. I'm going to have to go for a prawn.

0:52:220:52:27

-But of course.

-Get your napkin on.

-Well, yes.

0:52:270:52:31

I'm a naturally messy eater.

0:52:310:52:34

And Susie, what have you chosen to go with this?

0:52:340:52:36

So, I know we talked about the fact

0:52:360:52:38

that you've got some Italian influence here

0:52:380:52:40

and some American influence,

0:52:400:52:42

but I also felt it was a little bit French in style,

0:52:420:52:45

this sort of southern French style.

0:52:450:52:46

-Yeah, definitely.

-So I have gone for a southern French wine.

0:52:460:52:49

-It's a Picpoul de Pinet.

-Oh, love it.

0:52:490:52:51

It's the Baron De Guers Picpoul de Pinet 2016,

0:52:510:52:54

so this is £6.50 from Sainsbury's.

0:52:540:52:56

So amazing value.

0:52:560:52:57

And it's a really typical Picpoul in that you've got a lovely kind of,

0:52:570:53:02

the scents of wild herbs from down in the south of France.

0:53:020:53:05

It's from the South, it's from the Languedoc.

0:53:050:53:07

And then when you taste it, it's dry and tangy,

0:53:070:53:11

it's got almost a salty tang.

0:53:110:53:13

But fruity, because that little bit of chilli needs that.

0:53:130:53:16

That's really lovely, it's a good one.

0:53:160:53:18

And also the sweetness from that reduction,

0:53:180:53:20

I think you need to be able to match that as well,

0:53:200:53:22

-so a nice fruity white peach.

-What do you think about that?

0:53:220:53:24

I love it. Absolutely delicious.

0:53:240:53:26

-I think that's what you call moreish.

-Moreish!

0:53:260:53:29

Very gluggable, very gluggable.

0:53:290:53:31

And Nina, what do you think about that?

0:53:310:53:33

Oh, my goodness. Again, it just... The match-up.

0:53:330:53:36

-You're amazing.

-So fresh and clean at the beginning.

0:53:360:53:39

And then just the warmth at the very end, it's just...

0:53:390:53:43

-Delightful.

-I know what you mean, Andi, not everybody drinks alcohol.

0:53:430:53:46

But at this time of year,

0:53:460:53:48

you kind of want to be able to have a really nice drink whatever.

0:53:480:53:51

And I think I thought with this,

0:53:510:53:52

something like an elderflower presse,

0:53:520:53:54

you've got a little bit of fizz.

0:53:540:53:56

It's not too powerful.

0:53:560:53:58

Because you don't want to overwhelm that gorgeous fish.

0:53:580:54:00

And just something that's, again, like the wine,

0:54:000:54:03

quite fruity, but just an easy-going

0:54:030:54:05

and gentle drink that will sit alongside it.

0:54:050:54:07

Thank you very much, Susie.

0:54:070:54:09

-Christmas Eve, maybe.

-Very quick question.

0:54:090:54:12

-Yes.

-How does one eat mussels in a delicate way?

0:54:120:54:15

Well, the French quite often just sort of eat them out of,

0:54:150:54:18

they break the two shells in half

0:54:180:54:21

-and then use the empty shell to scoop out the...

-The next mussel.

0:54:210:54:25

I just use my fingers!

0:54:250:54:26

I wouldn't worry too much!

0:54:260:54:29

Now, let's catch up with Si and Dave.

0:54:290:54:31

The Hairy Bikers are enjoying Noel in Newcastle,

0:54:310:54:34

serving up three French hens three ways.

0:54:340:54:37

# Alouette, gentille alouette

0:54:420:54:44

# Alouette, je te plumerai. #

0:54:440:54:47

The French poulet Bresse, the finest French hen in the world.

0:54:470:54:50

We've got three of them, three French hens.

0:54:500:54:52

Yes, you see, because you know what? They're renowned for being tasty.

0:54:520:54:55

So, if it's fine dining and Michelin starred flavours you're looking for

0:54:560:54:59

over the festive period, then this is it.

0:54:590:55:02

We're making three dishes, because with a bird this fine,

0:55:020:55:05

you waste nothing, you'll even eat the cluck.

0:55:050:55:07

Yeah! And we're doing chicken thighs stuffed with parsley and thyme,

0:55:070:55:10

citrus-crusted chicken breast

0:55:100:55:13

and a fantastic noodle soup,

0:55:130:55:15

ideal if you're feeling like Billy Bloater after eating too much

0:55:150:55:17

or worse for wear after too much beer.

0:55:170:55:20

Over to you, Signor Butcher.

0:55:200:55:21

-Right.

-I'll go and peel the carrots.

0:55:210:55:23

-Are you peeling carrots?

-You go and peel a chicken.

0:55:230:55:25

I'll peel a chicken, right.

0:55:250:55:27

We're going to start taking the legs and thighs off.

0:55:270:55:31

You can see where it falls away - look.

0:55:310:55:34

Then what you do,

0:55:340:55:36

you turn it over, with your thumbs,

0:55:360:55:38

and then you press, and you pop out those thigh joints.

0:55:380:55:43

And then what we do is make a small incision there,

0:55:430:55:46

to cut through the tendon.

0:55:460:55:47

While Dave struggles with the veggies,

0:55:480:55:51

I'm removing the breast and cutting away the drumstick from the thigh.

0:55:510:55:55

See that - that is said thigh bone.

0:55:550:55:58

So what we do, take the knife -

0:55:580:56:00

which is a good thing for cutting with -

0:56:000:56:02

and then just pull the flesh away from the bone, like that,

0:56:020:56:08

until you get to a point where you

0:56:080:56:10

can put your knife underneath the bone.

0:56:100:56:12

Just cut up towards the bone - nice and gently,

0:56:120:56:15

you don't have to be tough with it at all.

0:56:150:56:18

One boned thigh - how simple is that?

0:56:180:56:20

Come on, just give it a go.

0:56:200:56:21

-Give it a go.

-That was brilliant!

0:56:210:56:24

So we have the drumstick that's going to go into the soup,

0:56:240:56:27

the carcass that's going to go into the soup, the lovely thigh,

0:56:270:56:31

two lovely breasts.

0:56:310:56:33

What an awesome iconic place to cook!

0:56:330:56:35

-Yeah.

-The Tyne Bridge - the mighty Tyne.

0:56:350:56:38

-It's nice to be home.

-Let's get on with this great winter soup.

0:56:380:56:41

Right, put the carcass in, I'll have the wings in,

0:56:410:56:44

I'll have the drumsticks in as well.

0:56:440:56:46

Leek goes in, a couple of sticks of celery, and don't forget the leaves.

0:56:470:56:51

Whilst Kingie's work is cosmetic and beautiful,

0:56:540:56:57

mine can be a bit of a hatchet job -

0:56:570:56:59

because I'm in it for flavour, not for beauty.

0:56:590:57:01

Bung that in.

0:57:050:57:06

Just put some peppercorns in, just whole peppercorns,

0:57:060:57:09

and I'm going to make a little bouquet garni.

0:57:090:57:11

Take just three or four bay leaves, a bunch of thyme,

0:57:110:57:14

put the string on there like so,

0:57:140:57:16

and it's like a little Christmas present full of flavour.

0:57:160:57:19

That's it - just bring that to the boil,

0:57:190:57:21

let it simmer for at least two hours, preferably all day, really.

0:57:210:57:25

There's going to be pints and pints of lovely chicken noodle soup.

0:57:250:57:28

So whilst the chicken soup is on the go,

0:57:280:57:30

it's time to get on with the stuffed chicken thighs.

0:57:300:57:34

This stuffing is a classic lemon and parsley - lots of zesty flavours,

0:57:340:57:38

herbs, breadcrumbs, and all held together with an egg yolk,

0:57:380:57:41

and that's it. So it's over to you, Kingie.

0:57:410:57:44

Oh, that's going to be great, man.

0:57:440:57:45

Look at all those lovely flavours coming together -

0:57:450:57:48

it's making my mouth water just thinking about it!

0:57:480:57:50

Now the citrus-crusted chicken breasts.

0:57:520:57:55

To start off, I'm going to melt down some lardons,

0:57:550:57:58

and I want to sear the chicken breasts,

0:57:580:58:00

but I'm doing that in the bacon fat, so it's super juicy.

0:58:000:58:04

Ooh, look at you and your posh lardons!

0:58:040:58:07

You can't beat a lardon for flavour, Kingie.

0:58:070:58:09

Whilst the lardons are sizzling away,

0:58:090:58:11

I'm going to get on with the citrus rub for the chicken breasts.

0:58:110:58:14

I'm combining lots of fruity flavours

0:58:140:58:16

with a little bit of thyme and garlic and seasoning to taste.

0:58:160:58:20

Now that the paste is ready,

0:58:200:58:21

it's time to sear the chicken for a few minutes.

0:58:210:58:24

I only want it colouring,

0:58:240:58:25

so remember - I don't want it frying through -

0:58:250:58:28

I don't want it to get tough.

0:58:280:58:29

You put this on here, ready for the oven.

0:58:290:58:32

I sincerely wish you could smell these.

0:58:320:58:35

Abso-blooming-lutely!

0:58:350:58:36

Oh! So just about a teaspoonful of this paste,

0:58:360:58:40

just spread it on to the chicken breasts.

0:58:400:58:42

And we're not forgetting, we've got that lovely bacon fat and lardon.

0:58:420:58:47

We're going to baste the chicken with that,

0:58:470:58:50

and what we're going to get in the bottom of this dish is the most

0:58:500:58:53

wonderful kind of drizzly juices.

0:58:530:58:55

Then place in an oven for around 20 minutes.

0:58:550:58:59

Whoa - that stock's brilliant!

0:58:590:59:00

The stuffed chicken thighs are superb,

0:59:000:59:02

the citrus breasts are grilling up - time to get the calling birds!

0:59:020:59:05

Let's go.

0:59:050:59:07

To go with our three French hens, we need four calling birds,

0:59:080:59:11

and we know just the place to find them...

0:59:110:59:13

..one of Newcastle's biggest call centres.

0:59:150:59:17

These birds are definitely worth a fine three-course meal.

0:59:190:59:23

Alfresco, mind!

0:59:230:59:24

And we are serving them the best chicken money can buy,

0:59:240:59:27

in three fabulous ways.

0:59:270:59:29

A fine chicken noodle soup, citrus-crusted chicken breast,

0:59:290:59:33

and chicken thighs stuffed with parsley and thyme

0:59:330:59:36

with potato latkes on the side!

0:59:360:59:39

Here we go. Four soups!

0:59:390:59:42

Madam...

0:59:420:59:43

-Lovely, thank you.

-You're very welcome, darling.

0:59:460:59:49

Well, buon appetito. I hope you like it.

0:59:490:59:51

-What do you think?

-I think it's very nice, very tasty.

0:59:570:59:59

-I'm enjoying it - it's lovely.

-It's the best soup I've ever had.

0:59:591:00:02

Right, time for the mains.

1:00:021:00:04

THEY LAUGH AND CHEER

1:00:041:00:07

Here we go.

1:00:071:00:08

The other two dishes.

1:00:081:00:11

# Every day is Christmas with you... #

1:00:111:00:18

-Oh, have they tasted that breast?

-That is a lovely breast.

1:00:191:00:22

-Isn't it?

-What do you think, Lucy?

1:00:221:00:24

I think it's great - you can taste the difference.

1:00:241:00:26

I mean, I'm a fan of Nando's, but you've done a good job.

1:00:261:00:29

Thank you very much!

1:00:291:00:31

THEY LAUGH

1:00:311:00:32

Four calling birds?

1:00:381:00:39

I think you'll find that's front line call centre operatives, boys, thank you.

1:00:391:00:43

Now, for a special treat,

1:00:431:00:44

some of our favourite Saturday Kitchen chefs have sent us

1:00:441:00:47

their foodie phone messages.

1:00:471:00:49

Let's see what questions they want answering.

1:00:491:00:51

-Ready, everybody?

-Yeah.

1:00:511:00:53

First up, we've got Gennaro Contaldo.

1:00:531:00:55

-Ah, Gennaro!

-The lovely Gennaro Contaldo.

1:00:551:00:58

Merry Christmas to everyone - or buon natale.

1:00:581:01:01

I would like to know, what is your bird of choice -

1:01:011:01:04

or the star ingredient - for Christmas Day or Christmas lunch?

1:01:041:01:09

It would be nice if you let me know.

1:01:091:01:11

Bless you, and merry Christmas!

1:01:111:01:14

Yay!

1:01:141:01:16

What is he wearing? That hat's amazing, and the jumper...

1:01:161:01:18

I love the matching. It's good when people make an effort, isn't it?

1:01:181:01:21

We love that. So what's your star turn on the big day?

1:01:211:01:25

-Goose.

-Goose?

-Yeah.

-Me too, actually.

1:01:251:01:27

For years I've cooked goose.

1:01:271:01:29

You know, that's three of three.

1:01:291:01:30

No, I would have goose - I would happily have some, yes.

1:01:301:01:33

Really? Isn't that interesting?

1:01:331:01:35

Well, I'm going to do that as well, then!

1:01:351:01:38

Having heard that earlier today, I may as well.

1:01:381:01:40

-What do you normally have then?

-Turkey.

1:01:401:01:43

Turkey. Yeah, it's good to ring the changes. Goose is a beautiful bird.

1:01:431:01:46

The crisp skin of the goose, the roast goose.

1:01:461:01:49

It's just perfect, and we have it with prunes, soaked again,

1:01:491:01:51

maybe some rum, maybe some brandy, just delicious.

1:01:511:01:55

And some spinach. Absolutely wonderful.

1:01:551:01:57

Next up, we have Angela Hartnett.

1:01:571:01:59

Happy Christmas, everyone.

1:01:591:02:00

So, Christmas, loads of vegetables on Christmas Day,

1:02:001:02:03

and I want some tips.

1:02:031:02:04

How are you going to make your Brussels sprouts exciting?

1:02:041:02:07

How are you going to make your roasties the best ever, most crispy?

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And what about some red cabbage?

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I need a tip about that as well.

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Christmas vegetables, people, what do you think?

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I'll tell you what I'm not having - aubergine...

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-You never know - by the end of the day we may have...

-No!

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But I know what Angela means about Brussels sprouts being boring,

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you know, if you just blanch them whole

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and you try and serve them whole, and then you come across

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them with bacon and cream, increasingly so.

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But, you know, I like to just sort of open them up completely,

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shred them up, and that's just one way of doing it,

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and you can just toss it with a bit of cumin and garlic

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and some dried chilli flakes.

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Just a lot more interesting, a lot more salady, but very quick to cook.

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She mentioned red cabbage, too,

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which I always cook slowly with vinegar,

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apple, sugar, because it's really good if you've got something fatty

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like goose, to have something a bit sharp.

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And red cabbage is brilliant in the sense that you can do it

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almost like a week before, can't you,

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and warm it up and it tastes even better?

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There's a brilliant Swedish white cabbage like that

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that they cook really, really slowly,

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and they call it brown cabbage because it gets caramelised like you

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would caramelise onions.

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So you cook it long and slow with a little bit of wine,

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lots of butter and lots of oil, and again you can keep in the fridge,

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absolutely lovely. And now we've got a question from Michel Roux Snr.

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-Oh, my gosh.

-Everybody stand to attention.

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Good morning, everyone at Saturday Kitchen, and merry Christmas.

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At Christmas, I cook canard a l'orange - I love that dish.

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But I would like something a bit more exotic.

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So, Rick Stein, you might be able to help me -

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why don't you give me a recipe a bit more exotic

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with all your travelling?

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And if I can cook Rick Stein exotic canard, I will be a happy man,

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and I'm going to have my Bloody Mary when I'm cooking.

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Merry Christmas to everyone.

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-No pressure.

-So, no pressure.

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-Michel Roux Snr would like to know...

-Well, thanks, Michel.

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Well, that's great. I mean, as it's you, I did do a recipe once,

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some Italian chef that was working with us in Padstow actually -

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and only because it's Michel - he boned the whole duck out.

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He made a stuffing of chopped prosciutto and Parmesan,

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it sounds really much, but it was delicious, really strong.

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And he just put that in the middle.

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He rolled the duck back, tied it, we roasted it,

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and then he served it in slices.

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It's a really tricky recipe.

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I've done one for it, but it's lovely,

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and if you don't want to go through

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-all the business of carving, it's perfect.

-You can just slice through.

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There's a couple of days work in that, though, surely?

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There is. That's why I was saying it's more Michel.

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What about you, Vivek, what would you think about that?

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You see, I, erm, if you roasted just the duck breast,

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or the whole duck as well,

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I love duck with sort of cumin and tamarind and chilli.

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So tamarind, I find, just cuts through the fat

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and the richness of it.

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And just, you know, a little bit of the fat that comes out of

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the rendering of the duck anyway,

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you just sort of blend it with the tamarind,

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-and you get a really...

-Beautiful thing.

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And what about wine to go with that?

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Well, it really depends on the duck you are doing.

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I mean, I have to say I'm a bit in Michel Roux Snr's camp,

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in that I do duck for Christmas, and I stuff it with oranges,

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and then I would serve it - I'm patriotic -

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I would serve it with an English Pinot Noir.

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Mmm, delicious!

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Thank you so much to all the chefs there - that was wonderful.

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Now, you don't get much more festive than Claridge's at Christmas,

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so for this week's foodie film, we sent this year's Celebrity

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MasterChef winner Angellica Bell behind the scenes in the kitchens,

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just to find out how a British culinary institution

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prepares for the big day.

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Christmas is always a hectic time of year for everyone,

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but how do you cater for 500 guests

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at one of London's most famous hotels?

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Well, I've come to meet executive chef at Claridge's, Martyn Nail,

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to find out what it's like to do Christmas on a very grand scale.

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The planning of Christmas starts in February.

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-What?

-So we'll start talking about Christmas menus,

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we'll review what we've done on the previous year,

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and then as the year goes on, we'll start to put things into place.

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Christmas is the busiest time of the year for us.

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We will do 2,500 Christmas puddings

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and we'll make 4,500 mince pies.

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We'll have 450,000 individual Brussels sprouts.

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-No!

-Yeah.

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So, Martyn, I've got my chef whites on, I'm ready to work.

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What about people who are at home, cooking their Christmas dinner?

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Have you got any tips for them, you know,

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to make their Christmas dinner perfect, and less stressful?

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My first tip, in terms of cooking their turkey,

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would be to buy a temperature probe.

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And if you insert that here, and you want to bring that to 68 degrees,

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once it reaches 68 in the oven,

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you pull it out and you let it rest to 75 - it must come to 75.

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Then it won't be overcooked.

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It is the optimum temperature to take it to.

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Right, I heard that you should cook the turkey breast side down.

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Now, I would cook them this way up,

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and rest them the other side down,

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and then all the lovely juice is rolling back into the breast.

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Again, preventing it from getting dry.

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-Correct.

-I took it upon myself to do your pigs in blankets.

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-Are you happy?

-You're doing an excellent job, Angellica.

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We need 3,000 - tomorrow.

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I might have to camp here for a few nights!

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So this is part of the afternoon tea, the Christmas afternoon tea.

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The guests start with a savoury Eccles cake,

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followed by afternoon tea sandwiches,

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followed by our sweet pastries,

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and then they'll have Christmas pudding.

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-All that in an afternoon tea!

-That's just afternoon tea.

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So don't eat before you come, and you won't be eating afterwards.

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Correct.

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The Christmas pudding, we modernised three years ago.

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We removed the heavy beer, the dark molasses, and a lot of the sugar,

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so the glace cherries.

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Replaced it with Grand Marnier,

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golden raisins instead of dark sultanas.

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What that's given us is a much paler colour pudding,

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lighter in texture, but also a much lighter flavour as well.

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I'd love to taste it, because I'm not a big fan of Christmas pudding,

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for all the very reasons that you said, because it's quite...

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We are going to make you love Christmas pudding.

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Oh! Look at that.

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OK, moment of truth.

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That's lovely.

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-Nice and light.

-That is light, moist, soft, and you can...

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-A little spice.

-A little bit of spice, and the raisins and sultanas.

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It's beautiful. Martyn, thank you so much for showing me round the kitchen.

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I've had a fantastic day - and you have converted me to Christmas pudding!

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-Brilliant - job done.

-Merry Christmas.

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So whatever you're doing on the 25th of December -

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whether you're eating out or cooking at home -

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have a very merry Christmas.

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Thanks, Angellica. Some expert tips for a foolproof Christmas dinner.

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If that didn't make you feel thoroughly festive,

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I think this will.

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It's the Saturday Kitchen Christmas cake challenge.

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Chefs, you will be given 90 seconds

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to ice Christmas cakes, ready for the big day.

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We've got some icing, we've got some accessories here.

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You can decorate them however you like.

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-Nina is going to judge the winner.

-I love your programme!

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-Yeah, back up, back up!

-Rick's won!

-Back up, Stein.

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And you've brought a few things yourself.

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There's some really weird things on the table here.

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-You made these, right, Rick?

-I did.

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-Are you both ready, both ready to go in a sec, yeah?

-As ready as we'll ever be.

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We've got some festive music to get you in the mood.

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It's my favourite Christmas song...

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MUSIC: Santa Baby

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And go!

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You've got 90 seconds.

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Make them fancy.

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I've got a feeling that you're not necessarily pastry chefs, really.

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No. I once did a course. I once did a course.

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You once did a course? How long ago was that?

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Oh, about 25 years ago.

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Yes, is it coming back to now?

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Not at all. I was terrible.

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The worst bit was the actual icing.

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The actual icing itself. Is that why you decided to make leaves earlier?

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I did actually.

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And I couldn't get a deep enough green, so they don't...

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Can I just say that Vivek's getting well fancy to your left?

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Gosh, look at this!

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Don't get intimidated!

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Focus, focus on your... This is like modern art over there.

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We've got some sort of Basquiat type Christmas going on.

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We'll get graffiti in a minute.

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What are those little bits, Rick?

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-So Rick's going to...

-These are berries, but I just wanted...

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You've got about 30 seconds left, boys.

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-You need to crack on.

-Oh, quick, quick, quick!

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That is going everywhere now. What is that? Is that brandy?

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Cinnamon soaking in brandy.

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-Yes, cinnamon brandy.

-Oh, my gosh. We've got fire,

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We've got flame.

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Is that incense?

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I thought they were sparklers, Vivek.

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Oh, my word! That's so fancy.

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-My gosh!

-You've got 20 seconds left. This is very interesting.

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-What is this smell? What is this?

-He's just shoving things on!

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What kind of incense is this?

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This is screwpine essence.

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-It's what?

-Screwpine.

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My God!

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Screwpine essence. It's nice, actually.

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Oh, Rick's got a ribbon.

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Oh, the time is up. The time is up.

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-Look at this!

-Very good.

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Look at this fanciness!

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-Two different skills...

-Oh, my God!

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You're too late. What are you doing? You're too late, you're too late.

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Oh, sorry. You can't put that on there now.

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That cannot be counted.

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-No, OK, fair enough.

-That cannot be counted.

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-It's quite fancy.

-That wouldn't be counted, but this will.

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That can count. Nina, you're judging. What do you think?

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Well, I have to say I quite like Rick's minimalist approach.

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-He made those leaves himself.

-Yeah, I made them myself!

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It's very pretty, I have to say, really pretty,

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-but you cannot tell...

-It's really nice, that!

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Only an Indian would put incense sticks on a Christmas cake,

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and just for that nonsense, his wins.

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This wins. Vivek, yeah, well done.

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Well done, well done. That's a thing, for sure.

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Incense on cakes from now on, yeah?

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Well done, Vivek.

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Are you going to go back to savoury now, chaps?

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-Oh, I think so.

-Yeah.

-I would advise it.

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-Very quickly.

-Should have asked my wife.

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She's the cake decorator.

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You should have brought her with you!

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So, will Nina get her food heaven?

1:12:311:12:33

-Yes!

-Tiramisu cheesecake with dark chocolate truffles?

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I love that you just shout "yes" every time.

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Or her food hell - okra and aubergine caponata

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with char-grilled pork belly?

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We'll find out after we've joined Mary Berry

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for her gorgeous gala pie.

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There's something really spectacular about a raised pie.

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When you cut the first slice, it's a real show-off pie.

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I'm going to make hot water crust pastry.

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You may not have made it before, but it is very easy to make,

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and it is the traditional one for a raised pie.

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Dissolve 100g of lard in 100ml of hot water,

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then add it to 250g of plain flour.

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And I'm going to just finish that off, putting my hand in.

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Now if you're worried about my nails,

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they're gel and they won't come off.

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I was brought up not to ever wear nail polish when I'm cooking,

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and at college, it was absolutely forbidden,

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but things have changed and it is Christmas.

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Put aside one third for the top of the pie

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and roll the rest quite thinly.

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Now, I think that's about right.

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And now for the filling.

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I've got some gammon here, some chicken, pickled walnuts -

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I think they give a lovely texture, lovely flavour - hard-boiled eggs,

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and sausage meat.

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Cut the gammon and chicken into strips...

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..then add lemon zest and fresh thyme to the sausage meat.

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And don't use dried thyme.

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Dried thyme is a totally different thing,

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and I don't think it adds to recipes at all.

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Mix a third of the sausage meat with the gammon strips to make

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the bottom layer of the pie.

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And then, you can imagine, as you cut through,

1:14:381:14:42

you get beautiful results.

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Press it down firmly to remove any air,

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before poking in a few of the pickled walnuts.

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If you don't like pickled walnuts,

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you could put pistachio nuts in it,

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you could use stoned olives.

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Lay the trimmed hard-boiled eggs along the centre,

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and surround them with the sausage meat.

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And then, press it down, very gently but firmly, no arguments.

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So, I've got here, the chicken.

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And, it's the same principle.

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I want long pieces of chicken so that when I cut through the pie

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when it's cooked, it looks good.

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It takes time, but it's very rewarding.

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And, the last third of the pastry will become the pie lid.

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That looks about the right size to me, let me just check.

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Very stupid if it didn't reach, wouldn't it?

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Stick the lid on with a little beaten egg and then crimp the edges.

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You can do any decoration that you like.

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And I'm going to do three leaves over the top.

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Make a small air hole in the top,

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and bake at 180 fan for half an hour.

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And then 160 for the final hour.

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When it's ready, let it cool

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and then leave in the fridge overnight.

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And this is it. I think it looks pretty good.

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I can tell you, I am chuffed to bits with that.

1:16:311:16:34

I think it looks really perfect.

1:16:341:16:37

What could be more impressive, more Christmassy?

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It really shows that you've pushed the boat out

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for all your family and friends.

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Thanks, Mary, that's a great festive treat.

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Right, it's time to find out whether Nina is getting her food heaven

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or food hell?

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Food heaven could be tiramisu cheesecake

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with dark chocolate truffles,

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but food hell could be, okra and aubergine caponata,

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with char-grilled pork belly.

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Now, there was no public vote, as you know, today, so Nina,

1:17:091:17:13

as it's nearly Christmas,

1:17:131:17:14

your fate rests inside one of these two stockings,

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so you just have to choose

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which one feels more okra-y and which one feels more dark-chocolaty.

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Well, dark chocolaty?

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Well, seeing as I think Vivek won the competition,

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I am going to go with Rick.

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I feel worried, I'm worried about...

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-Is it this thing, here?

-Yes, it is.

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It's the scroll of life.

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What does it say?

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Heaven! THEY CHEER

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-Well done!

-I'm so happy for you, I was really worried.

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And, just to prove, just to prove that there was no fix,

1:17:511:17:55

there was a hell in there as well.

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Right. Really thrillingly for you, let's get making cheesecake.

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Right, let's get rid of all this caponata okra business

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and let's get on with the cheesecake.

1:18:041:18:06

Vivek, if you could start with the custard?

1:18:061:18:09

-Sure.

-And Rick, I'm going to get you to make

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the base of the cheesecake with the chocolate biscuits.

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-OK.

-And I'm going to get on with getting these sponge fingers

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in the espresso and coffee liqueur and spiced rum.

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How delightful. Now, Nina, the play.

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Tell me about your amazing play that you're doing.

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Ah, yes. At the Southwark Playhouse, starts...

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Nina, you can do a bit of whipping, can't you?

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Sure. Fantastic, sounds good to me.

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Right, so, tell us, Southwark Playhouse...

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Southwark Playhouse starts the 29th Jan to 17th of Feb.

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It's called Collective Rage: A Play In Five Betties.

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-Five Betties?

-Five Betties.

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And I play the butchest Betty of the lot.

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Oh, my gosh, how fun!

1:18:461:18:47

-Oh, my God, look at this!

-And it's based in female drag,

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and that's not something we think about, that often.

1:18:521:18:55

No, it's... Well, there is an element of that, yes, but,

1:18:551:18:58

the thing about this particular play, is that it will... Literally,

1:18:581:19:02

you will laugh, you will cry and you will absolutely feel like you been

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punched in the gut. It's a fantastic...

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You can let Susie take over on that...

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I can't actually move it any more than this.

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That's it.

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That's going to get custard into it, and it's going to get mascarpone...

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-Fantastic.

-That's going to form the base of your cheesecake.

1:19:161:19:19

So, five furious Betties.

1:19:191:19:21

Yes, yes. Five very, very different women and they attempt

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to put on A Midsummer Night's Dream.

1:19:241:19:26

Ah, one of my favourite... That's very Christmassy, actually...

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Who's written this?

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So, this is by Jen Silverman.

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She's an American playwright,

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and they are based in New York, these women.

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So I'm playing Italian Bronx, which is very different.

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-Give us a go at your accent.

-You've got to do an accent.

-No.

1:19:401:19:44

You'll have to come to the play to see it!

1:19:441:19:47

How do you do it? I don't know, I can't do it, what's Bronx?

1:19:471:19:49

-Bronx.

-It is quite broad.

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Just think of a mobster, a mobster's wife.

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-That would be the best thing.

-When does it start?

1:19:541:19:56

So 29th of January, it's on,

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so we start rehearsals on the 2nd of January,

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which means no New Year's celebrations for me.

1:20:001:20:02

For you, madam, no, madam.

1:20:021:20:04

I won't quite be there.

1:20:041:20:05

And, I mean, you started in theatre more, actually before...

1:20:051:20:09

Absolutely, I did seven years' worth

1:20:091:20:11

of theatre before Goodness Gracious Me.

1:20:111:20:13

I trained - in fact, I trained with Mark Rylance for a bit,

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-who I think is...

-Fancy. Amazing.

-Oh, he's great.

1:20:151:20:17

One of the best actors in the country.

1:20:171:20:19

That's really fancy.

1:20:191:20:22

Yeah, funny you say that, because, in our play, they do put on theatre,

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which is great fun.

1:20:251:20:27

And is it lovely to go back to doing some theatre, then?

1:20:271:20:30

It's great to go back to it.

1:20:301:20:31

I've been in TV land for a very, very long time.

1:20:311:20:34

Is that what you call it? TV land?

1:20:341:20:36

TV land! It's kind of the same as they've got La La Land for films.

1:20:361:20:39

I mean, TV land, so it will be nice to go back to my roots

1:20:391:20:43

which is theatre and I'm so looking forward to that.

1:20:431:20:46

I can't actually be talking to you and not talk to you a little

1:20:461:20:49

bit more about Goodness Gracious Me.

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Because Goodness Gracious Me is one of my favourite comedies ever.

1:20:511:20:55

-Really?

-It made me laugh so much.

1:20:551:20:56

-Ah.

-Am I doing all right, here, by the way?

1:20:561:20:58

-Sorry to interrupt.

-You're doing all right, Just press that into the base.

1:20:581:21:01

I'm getting sponge fingers into the base, it will be really good.

1:21:011:21:03

-The colour of that is unbelievable!

-It's wonderful, isn't it?

1:21:031:21:06

-I love that.

-That's the chocolate biscuits, obviously,

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other brands are available.

1:21:091:21:10

Chocolate biscuits and butter, I mean,

1:21:101:21:12

how can you go wrong with chocolate biscuits and butter?

1:21:121:21:15

-You can't.

-That's why it's heaven.

1:21:151:21:17

So, Goodness Gracious Me, how long ago was Goodness Gracious Me?

1:21:171:21:20

Oh, gosh. Going back about 18 years, maybe, 18, 19 years?

1:21:201:21:23

But we did do a couple of specials a couple of years ago,

1:21:231:21:25

and they are talking about bringing it back, so...

1:21:251:21:28

-Oh, really?

-That would be very exciting, yes.

1:21:281:21:30

That would be amazing. Is that custard you've got for me?

1:21:301:21:33

So my favourite sketch...

1:21:331:21:34

So the first time I was on the motorway,

1:21:341:21:36

and I heard the "Going for an English" sketch.

1:21:361:21:39

Can you explain to us a little bit about what that was?

1:21:391:21:42

The Going for an English sketch is based on the fact that,

1:21:421:21:46

when white friends here go to an Indian restaurant,

1:21:461:21:49

they have a lot of fun with, sort of,

1:21:491:21:52

the Indian staff and the Indian food.

1:21:521:21:53

So we decided to turn it on its head,

1:21:531:21:56

and do a bunch of Indian people going to this restaurant in Delhi.

1:21:561:22:00

And they just, basically, they don't quite know what to order,

1:22:021:22:05

so they end up ordering the blandest thing on the menu.

1:22:051:22:07

The blandest thing on the menu, I was on the motorway, with my friend,

1:22:071:22:11

the first time I heard it.

1:22:111:22:13

We had to pull over because we were laughing so much.

1:22:131:22:16

It was just brilliant. What a wonderful thing to be part of.

1:22:161:22:20

Did it feel like that when you were doing it?

1:22:201:22:21

It did. Well, to be honest,

1:22:211:22:23

I was happy if Indian people watched it and found it funny.

1:22:231:22:26

The fact that the whole country embraced the show,

1:22:261:22:28

and just embraced us, it took it to a different level.

1:22:281:22:32

-It was absolutely amazing.

-And we went straight from radio into TV.

1:22:321:22:35

In fact, that was my first proper, proper, real TV job.

1:22:351:22:39

-Right.

-So, I was terrified. I had not done TV before.

1:22:391:22:42

-Was that alarming?

-Yeah. Hugely.

1:22:421:22:44

So I would go in very, very early, and sit with the cameraman,

1:22:441:22:46

and lighting and crew and learn about TV.

1:22:461:22:49

And the other brilliant characters, of course, are the competitive mums.

1:22:491:22:52

-Yes.

-I mean, tell us a little bit about...

1:22:521:22:54

Because, actually, it's quite a while ago now.

1:22:541:22:56

So I'm sort of thinking, everybody knows Goodness Gracious Me,

1:22:561:22:59

but there's probably a whole gap of people in the middle.

1:22:591:23:02

You say that, but not, because,

1:23:021:23:05

a lot of mums and dads have shown their kids the show.

1:23:051:23:08

-Ah.

-So in the school my kids go to, they all know the show.

1:23:081:23:12

-Oh, fantastic.

-Which is brilliant, but...

1:23:121:23:14

Because of modern, modern technology, darling...

1:23:141:23:17

-Yes.

-So tell us a bit about competitive mums,

1:23:171:23:19

-because I love those characters.

-The competitive mums are great.

1:23:191:23:22

In every culture, I mean, but, specifically in Indian culture.

1:23:221:23:25

-They're always there.

-Yeah. And their sons

1:23:251:23:28

or their daughters are always the best.

1:23:281:23:29

I have to say, when we filmed in India a few years ago,

1:23:291:23:32

the mums were too much.

1:23:321:23:34

-They were just in charge.

-Really?

1:23:341:23:36

Hilarious. I mean, it is a matriarchal culture,

1:23:361:23:39

like here, actually.

1:23:391:23:40

I think, that something that India and the UK have very much in common.

1:23:401:23:44

You know, it is a matriarchal culture, and so,

1:23:441:23:46

the women run everything behind the scenes.

1:23:461:23:48

It's all down to them. And that's why we love them.

1:23:481:23:52

Right, so, Rick, you are on that ganache.

1:23:521:23:55

-Yeah, yeah, we've got...

-Which will become chocolate truffles.

1:23:551:23:58

So that'll be poured into this tray here.

1:23:581:24:00

Into the tray, you'll pour that into a tray,

1:24:001:24:02

-and we'll end up with something like this.

-Oh, good. And then we start making some...

1:24:021:24:06

Have you got a baller?

1:24:061:24:07

Are you done with that?

1:24:071:24:08

Should we get you ladies on a bit of truffle rolling?

1:24:081:24:12

There's a lot to do in this recipe, but it's definitely worth it.

1:24:121:24:16

Can you teach us how to truffle roll, Vivek?

1:24:161:24:18

OK, so, in here, we've got chocolate, cream, sugar,

1:24:181:24:22

butter and cocoa.

1:24:221:24:23

And rum.

1:24:231:24:25

Of course. The very special rum.

1:24:251:24:27

And then we've got...

1:24:271:24:29

We haven't got booze in the custard,

1:24:291:24:30

but we've got booze in this part here, which is very important.

1:24:301:24:34

-And we've got booze on the fingers as well.

-Amazing.

1:24:341:24:38

Rum is soaked into the fingers. But it balances really well.

1:24:381:24:41

-It's not overly...

-A little bit of coffee liqueur?

1:24:411:24:43

A little bit of coffee liqueur.

1:24:431:24:44

We've got espresso and we've got the rum

1:24:441:24:46

soaked into those sponge fingers.

1:24:461:24:48

You get it running right the way through.

1:24:481:24:51

I'm going to bring this one over now as well.

1:24:511:24:54

Are you going to start rolling some truffles over there, ladies?

1:24:541:24:57

-Can I join them?

-Why don't you do a little bit of truffle rolling?

1:24:571:25:01

We have a little scoop. This is looking really great.

1:25:011:25:04

-Do we do it in our fingers, our hands?

-Do it with your hands.

1:25:041:25:07

-And then you need to roll them.

-Keep them as cold as possible.

1:25:071:25:09

Don't let them get close to your palm.

1:25:091:25:11

This is the kind of stuff you let the kids do.

1:25:111:25:13

You know what I mean? So how long is the run of your play?

1:25:131:25:17

It is only on until the 17th of February

1:25:171:25:19

and it's already selling out.

1:25:191:25:21

So please, please. It would be a great Christmas present

1:25:211:25:23

if you have a bunch of girls, you want to go out and have a laugh.

1:25:231:25:26

Don't be shy to bring the men as well. They'll enjoy it, too.

1:25:261:25:29

There's one particular scene that's a little bit controversial.

1:25:291:25:32

I don't know how they're going to stage it.

1:25:321:25:34

An all-female cast?

1:25:341:25:35

It's an all-female cast. It's five women called Betty.

1:25:351:25:38

That's quite unusual, isn't it? To get an all-female cast?

1:25:381:25:41

It is, but I think it's about time that women get to be at the forefront

1:25:411:25:45

-of a few more things. What do you reckon?

-Does it feel good?

1:25:451:25:47

-Definitely.

-Absolutely.

1:25:471:25:49

Any more information about controversial nature of it?

1:25:491:25:53

Again, you've got to go and see it.

1:25:531:25:55

You see how I hook you in?

1:25:551:25:57

OK, I'm going to get this... I'm going to leave this on that thing.

1:25:571:26:01

-I don't want it to fall apart.

-There is nothing more satisfying

1:26:011:26:04

-than rolling a truffle, is there?

-I know.

1:26:041:26:05

-My truffles are a little bit bigger than anyone else's.

-Funny, that!

1:26:051:26:08

You know what, it's your food heaven and it's Christmas.

1:26:081:26:11

Do whatever you like. I'm just going to really whizz ahead now.

1:26:111:26:15

Isn't there a big urge to pop one in the mouth?

1:26:171:26:19

There is! There is!

1:26:191:26:21

Cocoa onto the top.

1:26:211:26:23

-Look at that.

-Wow.

1:26:241:26:26

-Tiramisu cheesecake.

-Tiramisu cheesecake.

1:26:261:26:30

-Oh, my word.

-It's making us happy already

1:26:301:26:32

and we haven't even eaten any of it yet.

1:26:321:26:34

I think we'll dress some of these truffles around the edge.

1:26:341:26:37

Really? You mean the edge of my mouth?

1:26:371:26:40

Let's just pull these around like this, make it beautiful.

1:26:411:26:46

-Amazing.

-Make it lovely. I think they've got enough.

1:26:461:26:50

So, Nina, you've got Still Open All Hours.

1:26:501:26:52

When is that on, Boxing Day?

1:26:521:26:53

-That's on Boxing Day.

-It's become a new tradition.

1:26:531:26:56

-Yes, it has. It really has.

-That's absolutely lovely.

1:26:561:26:59

I hope everyone tunes in for that.

1:26:591:27:00

It's a lovely thing to do on Boxing Day, actually,

1:27:001:27:03

-to get together and watch that.

-It's perfect, isn't it?

1:27:031:27:05

It's a very special show.

1:27:051:27:06

Are you going to take that off me? Thank you very much.

1:27:061:27:09

Here we have your lovely heaven.

1:27:091:27:14

Lucky you. Tiramisu cheesecake with rum-infused dark chocolate truffles.

1:27:141:27:19

-Yes!

-Delicious.

1:27:191:27:21

Susie, what wine have you got for us?

1:27:211:27:23

Well, I've kind of stuck with the Italian theme and the tiramisu,

1:27:231:27:26

and I've gone for an Italian dessert wine, a Vin Santo from Tuscany.

1:27:261:27:31

It's made from dried Trebbiano grapes.

1:27:311:27:34

It's a really lovely sultana-ey, biscuity,

1:27:341:27:38

it's the Santa Cristina Vin Santo, and it's from 2010.

1:27:381:27:42

It's just beautiful. What's nice about it, actually, as well,

1:27:421:27:45

you could have this at Christmas with your Christmas pudding,

1:27:451:27:49

with your cheese, so it's very versatile.

1:27:491:27:51

-It's a beautiful colour, Susie.

-It's kind of fun, isn't it?

1:27:511:27:54

I've got that right. Yes.

1:27:541:27:56

Could you make it a bigger slice for me, please?

1:27:561:27:58

I think you'll cope.

1:27:581:28:00

Do we need a second or third plate?

1:28:001:28:02

-Thank you.

-Here you go, Nina, for you first, darling.

1:28:021:28:05

-No, no.

-Rick's already got a spoon.

1:28:051:28:09

I've got some on my thumb.

1:28:091:28:12

Absolutely delicious. Tell us what you think about that.

1:28:121:28:14

What do you think about that?

1:28:141:28:16

Delicious? Is that heaven, actual heaven?

1:28:171:28:21

-Actual heaven.

-100%.

1:28:211:28:24

There is a takeaway box, right?

1:28:241:28:26

You might need a bigger, bigger than a normal box.

1:28:261:28:29

-How about with the wine?

-Stunning with the wine, well done.

1:28:291:28:32

-Thank you.

-Thank you so much, guys.

1:28:321:28:33

Well, that is all from us today on a very Christmassy Saturday Kitchen.

1:28:331:28:37

Thanks to all of our studio guests, Rick, Vivek, Susie and Nina.

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All the recipes from the show are on the website, of course

1:28:411:28:44

bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen.

1:28:441:28:46

Don't forget, Best Bites tomorrow with our Matt on BBC Two.

1:28:461:28:51

Have a fabulous festive feast, whatever you decide to cook.

1:28:511:28:54

From all of us here at Saturday Kitchen,

1:28:541:28:56

have a very merry Christmas.

1:28:561:28:58

Merry Christmas, everybody.

1:28:581:29:00

Oh, look, it's snowing.

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