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DOOR SLAMS | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
HEARTBEAT | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
The cave, high up on the windswept mountainside, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
was warm and silent. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
He grew slowly in his world of darkness, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
conscious only of the closeness of his mother, who nursed and fed him. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
And so the days slipped by in happy hours... | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
until the hunters came. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
HEARTBEAT | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
In the spring of 1942, after Germany had attacked Russia, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
and Russia had become an ally of the Western world, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
large numbers of Polish prisoners of war in Russian camps were released | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
to join the Polish army of General Anders in the Middle East. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
It was at this time that the men of this contingent, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
like many other Polish soldiers who landed in Persia, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
were on their way to Palestine and Egypt, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
where they were to be re-grouped in accordance | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
with British army organisation. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
'We were already in Persia.' | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
I had been undernourished for such a long time that... | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
..I was weak. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
'We were spending the night in Alborz mountains. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
'And there was a group of Persian boys. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
'One of them was holding this small bear.' | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
He lost his mother. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
The mother was shot by a hunter. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It was the 8th of April exactly when I made his acquaintance. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:49 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
And it was already warm. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
'As he was still very small... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
'..he needed the warmth of another human being, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
'and he clung to me. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
'He was very, very affectionate then' | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
and, of course, I was so enchanted by the little bear, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
cos I was young myself, you know? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
'And I liked him very much. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
'I stroked his fur and held him tightly. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
'Remembering that he had no mother | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
'and he must have missed the mother very much.' | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
In a sense, he must have sensed the fact that I liked him, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
that I held him near to me, it must have... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
..done something to him. He was like a human being. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
He already had his own character. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
And at night, he used to walk over our heads! | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
So, you see, my friends, my colleagues, didn't like it very much | 0:06:04 | 0:06:11 | |
and then they told me that I must get rid of him, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
and I said, "I'm not going to get rid of him. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
"You must think up a way out." | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
So in the end... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
it was decided to give him as a present to a Polish general. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
He made arrangements for the bear | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
to be put where there were officers in a Polish regiment | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
and it was arranged for the bear to be transferred there. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
So that's how he joined the regiment there, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
and started his army career. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I first met Wojtek in the Gedera Camp in Palestine | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
in November 1942. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Then it was Second Transport Company. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Afterwards, it was renamed as 22nd Transport Company. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
And so I met Wojtek, you know? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I was extremely astonished, because I said, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
"Oh, a bear is sitting near the tent of our commander." | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
"Oh, it is Wojtek." | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
"Wojtek?! Oh!" So, a second Wojtek in the company. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
I was at first astonished, but afterwards I was so accustomed | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
that we'd been given the same name that it was no problem | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
but only, you know, if friends from other units | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
were coming to visit me, to see me, and are asking, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
"Is Wojtek here?" | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
"But which one? Big one or little one?" | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
And therefore I was afterwards called Little Wojtek. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
Not only were they drawn to the helpless creature | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
by his irresistible appearance, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
but, more importantly, because he was an orphan | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
and homeless, and because in a sense they themselves were orphans, too. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
I first met Wojtek the bear in Palestine in 1943. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:56 | |
The company which had got this Wojtek was next to us. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
He was about a year old, but was quite big, really quite big. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
And I have a photograph. The commandant lady said, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
"Girls, we'll make a photograph with this bear." | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
And she said, "Irena, you must sit there." | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
I said, "No, not next to him." I was sitting in the second row. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
We were so busy because we had to supply not only Polish units, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:28 | |
but there were also other units. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Therefore we had little time to play with him. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
We were first in Palestine. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Afterwards, all the Polish Second Corp got moved to Iraq, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
because the Germans were already in the Caucasus mountains, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
and so very close to the petrol fields in Iraq, in Persia. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
'Iraq is a very hot country, a place where it's really like hell. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
'From ten o'clock in the morning to five o'clock, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
'we'd be lying under tents - naked, nearly - | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
'and just putting water on myself. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
'And he was sitting all this hot time | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
'in his hole in the soil, in the earth.' | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
It must have been difficult for him, his own experience. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:54 | |
He was out of his country. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
And in a sense, even being an animal, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
he must have felt it, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
because Iraq was a foreign country to him. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
Even an animal must have felt the loss. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
I'm a firm believer in it. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Perhaps after all, he could remember his mother | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and the cool mountains of his native land | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
when he sat at the edge of the camp, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
looking over the monotonous desert wastes | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
to the distant horizon, slowly whimpering to himself. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
He was like an immigrant, really. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
He was homeless. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
We'd been homeless too. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
He never came back to the place where he was born. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
We never came back to the place where we were born. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
It's difficult to explain, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
because today, this looks like it's not really true. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
'Sometimes I think, "Why am I alive?" | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
'At this exhibition about Wojtek, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
'I was looking at these pictures | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
'because there's a part of my life in these pictures, really. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
'The young generation, there's many things they don't believe. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
'They don't believe, really, that it's true. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
'For example, I've got my grandson. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
'He's only eight but I've been talking about it, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
'and took him to this exhibition about Wojtek | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
'and he said, "It's not true! | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
'"How can he drive? How can he do that? He's an animal." | 0:12:44 | 0:12:50 | |
'It's difficult to explain for children.' | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-That elbow, that elbow. -Yeah. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
-Look at the bottom! -I know! | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
-I love that picture. -And the solidity. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
This is my favourite picture. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
'The story can't just be aired independently, just floating free. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
'Because of telling the Wojtek story, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
'people have to learn how it happened, why.' | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
We were deported in 1940, 13th April, to Siberia. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
That was 1940, in February. I was ten. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
We heard the noise... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
..banging on the...on the door, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
and suddenly, very unceremoniously, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
six armed men entered our house. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:52 | |
They came, about 20 people, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
soldiers, came to my home, and said, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
"Take everything you want in your hands, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
"put your coat on, because you are going somewhere." | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
It was very, very cold - it was 30 degrees below zero. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
Of course, they put us all... packed us on the sledges | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and took us to the nearest railway station, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
which was already packed with similar families. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
We were frightened... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
HORN BLARES | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
..and terrified. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
After a few hours, they packed us to the cattle trains. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
30 to 50 people on the wooden planks, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:43 | |
with a hole in the middle as a toilet. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
DOOR SLAMS | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
If they hadn't deported us, if we hadn't been freed | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
with the army forming in Russia then continuing to form in Iran, | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
the bear wouldn't have been found. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
The bear went the same route as the Poles did. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
I first met Wojtek in Iraq... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
..in Kirkuk... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
..early in 1943. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
To be there in the Middle East, the situation was so unique, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
so unexpected. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
But I must say there was a particular sense of longing, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
no, nostalgia. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
We could go almost every other shop | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
you could speak Polish. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
You could speak Polish and talk about the old country. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Wojtek displayed all the enthusiasm of a tourist, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
taking a great interest in his surroundings, wherever he went. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
I think that er...his nature | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
was rather exceptional - | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
he liked to be with people... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
with soldiers, to play with them. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Sometimes you think he's smiling to you, or something. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
He was really a very sweet animal, especially very helpful too | 0:16:34 | 0:16:42 | |
because Wojtek was looking after while he was in this company. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
Every night, two soldiers in the company or something | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
have 24 hours, you are on duty. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Then Wojtek would go out until he was tired, had very little sleep | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
and again go out with these men who were on duty - he was very helpful. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:11 | |
He was a great sort of bodyguard, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
because they could leave him in a truck and nobody would ever think | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
of stealing anything from it, with a socking great bear sitting in the front! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
You know, it was very strange for me | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
if I say so, because now he was so popular but for us, we were | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
so accustomed to his presence, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
that...it was quite something normal for us. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
But you've got to remember in that camp, there were mascots everywhere. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:52 | |
It was just dogs, ferrets, you name it, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
everybody wanted to have something to love. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
It was the 13th February 1944, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and with other units of the Polish Second Corps, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
the 22nd Transport Company were due to embark on the MS Batory for Italy. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:10 | |
During the two years in the Middle East, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
this had been the point of all their training, and now they were relieved | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and excited that the time for action had arrived. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
They all knew the standing orders for embarkation... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
they forbade the taking of animals to Italy. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
But how could they leave Wojtek behind? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
It would break his heart, and their hearts too. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I was interviewing all the Polish soldiers in that regiment. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
We looked at the roster and there was only one person - Corporal Wojtek - | 0:19:43 | 0:19:50 | |
who had not appeared, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
and so when I heard who Corporal Wojtek was, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
and how stubborn he was in not coming forward, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
I wanted to find out why. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
This silly lieutenant who was helping me | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
said, "Don't you think, sir, it would be a good idea | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
"if we got the man himself to come up | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
"and then we'd find out all about him?" | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
So I said, "Yes, well, why not? Is that all right, Colonel?" | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
And the colonel said, "Yes, of course, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
"we'll send two people down to collect him," | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
and I said, "Two people?" | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Two officers went down to collect him - | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
I thought that was very funny | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
and against all the rules of warfare. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
But anyway, down they went. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
I looked at the lieutenant and his face went as white as white. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
I looked at... | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
his helper, the sergeant, and the sergeant was... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
So I thought, "Oh, God," | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
and I looked over my shoulder | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and there was Wojtek, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:09 | |
standing there... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
marvellous, truly marvellous. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
The Port Authority wouldn't let him on. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
They had to phone the High Command in Cairo to ask permission | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
to let Wojtek on and they got permission | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
so he had the High Command of Cairo's permission to board the Batory. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:37 | |
General Anders, he was the man who gave him the title Corporal. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
I didn't realise he had got a rank. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
I didn't realise they had got to that stage. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
This was the added incentive | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
that people would recognise him | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
as a genuine entity of the Second Polish Army. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:04 | |
He had got his number, he had got his book, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
his money to get cigarettes, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
because he liked eating cigarettes. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
He was a soldier, a real soldier. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
And so it was that a little later, a small detachment of men | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
marched smartly up to the boarding point, led by a huge brown bear. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:37 | |
Wojtek had officially joined the army. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
For us to reach a Polish ship, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
sailing under the Polish flag, we were crying. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
And our national anthem, you know, playing in honour of us. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
So it was something. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
We were already three or four years after leaving our houses, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
you know, our families... | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
So it was something extremely moving. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
MUSIC: POLISH NATIONAL ANTHEM | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
The winter campaign, from January to March 1944, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
had become locked in stalemate. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Three bloody battles in which | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
the British, American, Indian, French and New Zealand troops | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
had fought for the heights above Cassino town, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
had failed to dislodge the enemy. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Now, in April, preparations were underway for a fourth assault | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
and into the lines to join the Americans, French and British | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
had come the Second Polish Corps. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
People say to me, have done over the years, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
"Were you not frightened when you go into battle?" | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
The first time, of course, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
you're not frightened, you're apprehensive. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
The second time, you're frightened, because you know what to expect. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
I always remember we were just behind the mountain | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
facing Cassino town. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
We suddenly heard the sound of aircraft, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and there must have been about | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
300 or 400 American airplanes | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
came zooming over the top of us | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
towards Cassino town. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
And of course we didn't know it, but a few days later | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
we would actually be in Cassino town, in the front line. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
We didn't know exactly what had happened to the Poles | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
when we were fighting. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
They were to attack the Germans on their weakest point, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
which was at the rear of the monastery, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
and of course the Poles suffered terrible casualties there. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
If you're 2,000ft up, it's not easy to start scrambling over the rocks | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
to try and take a position. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
For the Poles it was something special, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
different, though, that they were fighting for their homeland, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
and also for a Poland in the future years. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:41 | |
Well, our duty was to bring munitions, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
food and petrol | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
to two heavy artillery regiments, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and Wojtek was hiding under barrels | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
but really, he was sometimes helping, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
because we were loading, you know, but the boxes... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
when he has seen that we are so very tired, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
already bringing these heavy boxes to the... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
to the lorry, you know, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
so he was trying to help us, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
and really I remembered he could take a log by himself. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
We took it by three or four, you know, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
and he took it alone and put it on the lorry. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
So if he sees that the soldiers are tired, he thinks... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
.."So I will help them. I will help them." | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
You know, he has such a nature that he liked to help, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
you know, in every possible manner. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
I first met Wojtek, the Polish bear, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
in April 1943, near to Acquafondata in Italy... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
a magnificent animal. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
So as we came out of the line to be relieved by other divisions, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:15 | |
we went into Cassino town, which was a mass of ruins | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
and as always, when you come out of the front line, you try | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
and get a delousing and a shower, and a change of underclothes. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Some of us, of course, hadn't had a change of clothing for over a month. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
After we had the shower and had the delousing, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
our next job would have been to go scrounging. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
We walked down into the areas | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
where the Italian civilians had departed, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
the idea being that there might have been a farm or a house | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
where there were chickens and eggs. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
If we'd got that, of course, it would have supplemented our rations. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
We were walking through the country lane, and all at once we heard | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
the sound of a battery opening fire. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
We moved towards it to see what was happening | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
and there in the clearing in the woods | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
was three 25-pounders. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
We could see by the dress of one, who was an officer, that they were Polish. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:24 | |
We sat there for a minute or two, and suddenly, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
out of the nearby wood, came this bear, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
about six foot tall or more, carrying something, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
and as he came nearer we saw that it was kind of a bit bedraggled, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
had plenty of hair on it and its feet were massive... really big. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:45 | |
You know, you realise when a bear stands up, how tall it really is. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
I shouted, "Look out!" Vinnie shouted, "Look out!" | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
And it carried... Walked probably about 10 yards in front of us | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
and suddenly stooped, put the shell it was carrying... it was a shell... | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
at the trail legs of the gun. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
As it walked slowly back, it went on to its four legs | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
and kind of shuffled along. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
It was massive! It must have weighed a ton. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Lasocki has written that he once | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
going to the...er...regiment | 0:29:22 | 0:29:28 | |
we were supplying, but it was absolutely impossible, no no. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
We were, er...loading, you know, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
but the boxes, not individual, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
because it was much more fast than to put individual shells. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
So it is true, but not individual shells | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
because it would be too dangerous. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
The huge creature, over six feet tall, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
moved easily amongst the men, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
and the men were so unconcerned, it might have been one of them. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
But that wasn't all. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
The bear was actually helping to unload the supplies. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
Imagination can be a strong thing. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
We were wanting to take him back home to Poland, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
and were exposing him to the most vitriolic shell fire | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
and gun fire that the generals were giving us at Monte Cassino. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
That was nonsense. No, he was there, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
but he certainly wasn't in full view. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
He came out a second time a few minutes later with another shell | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
and we could see this time that it was kind of panting, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
because the weather wasn't too great. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
It stopped, looked near the right side of the gun | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
and started to climb a tree. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
He was looking where the shells were going, you know. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
They just ignored it like it was part of the team, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
which obviously it was. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
They just didn't seem to want to acknowledge it, it was just there | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
to do a job, like it was part of the party to get involved in shelling. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
He had to do what they did. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
They smoke, he smoked, they drank, they nodded, he nodded. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
He was a soldier. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
He must have done as they were very fond of their banners, regiments. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:29 | |
They're iconic. Why change it? | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
All the vehicles were stamped with it. Everything was done with it. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:39 | |
They were very proud of him. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
He was almost human. But he wasn't. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
He was a brave, brave man. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
As a bear. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Because of my category of health, I was too... | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
-Too ill to be killed. -Too ill. Not healthy enough | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
to be killed by a German soldier in an attack on a stronghold. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:38 | |
That was the paradox. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
The healthy ones were killed and the less healthy ones survived. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
My own battalion had lost over 60%. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
I think that was general throughout. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Which was pretty rough. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
It wasn't a pleasant job. It was all or nothing, succeed at all costs. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
Of course, we had seen these terrible losses which we had. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:10 | |
But anyway, it was for us very important because as you know, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:16 | |
our enemies, especially the Soviets, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
Stalin said the Polish don't want to fight. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
And here we have shown that the Polish are fighting for freedom. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
The Poles were amongst our best troops. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
They were so angry about the way they'd been treated by the Germans and Russians. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
It was kill or be killed, literally, all the time. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
When it was all over, we saw them coming down the mountain | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
with their dead and wounded and it was a sad sight. It was a sad sight. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
It's given me something that people who are not in the forces | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
or been in actual combat will never have. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:11 | |
It's a comradeship. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
Even if you don't know someone but he was in a battle you were in, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:19 | |
he's your brother immediately. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Family. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
In 1947 I returned to Poland. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Of course, I was a little afraid | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
since my whole family was prosecuted and was imprisoned. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:46 | |
Thanks to God, my father returned home, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
my sister and brother also returned home. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
I was the only one outside of Poland. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
During the war I think not only Polish soldiers but every soldier | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
who was separated from their families and home countries, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
if he has contact with a nice friendly person, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:24 | |
even if it's an animal, it's important for the moral state of the soldier. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:31 | |
But only Wojtek became so famous with the British Army | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
because we were fighting with him all the time. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
From baby's age, educated always amongst the same soldiers. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:48 | |
This is something extraordinary. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
An animal who is so friendly. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
He's not dangerous. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Usually bears are dangerous. They are wild animals. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:06 | |
But Wojtek was... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:07 | |
Of course, it was an exceptional animal | 0:36:07 | 0:36:13 | |
and worth remembering now. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
This is a symbolic date, 18th of May, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
because the Polish flag was put on the ruins of the monastery. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:33 | |
Cassino had been won, and the Allies were advancing on Rome. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
And though the war seemed far away, the occasional distant gunfire | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
was a grim reminder that there were battles yet to come. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
But for that moment, the men of the 22nd Transport Company could relax. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:55 | |
That summer on the Adriatic coast was a high spot of Wojtek's life. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
During this Italian campaign, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
I remember because Wojtek was just on this workshop lorry, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:16 | |
and he was staying with... | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
erm... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
his hands... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
front hands on the cabin, on the driver. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
Once we were going, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
I was just in the first or second lorry after this workshop, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:40 | |
and he had seen that to the Adriatic coast is 50 metres, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
because we were going along the coast. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
He jumped out and went to the beach where there were many Italian girls. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
You can imagine all the crying | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
and us saying, "Girls! Don't be afraid! | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
"This is a good bear! | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
"Don't be afraid, he won't do anything bad." | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
And he went...swimming a little, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
returned...and was going again! | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
He rolled about with the soldiers and played with them. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
He took on four at a time with his claws all bunched up. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
He enjoyed giving them a buffeting | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
and they went soaring head over heels. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
He never hurt any of them, never. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
He was inviting the soldiers to fight with him but was very polite. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:17 | |
When he won, he was very fond. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
But never do something wrong to the beaten enemy. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
In the autumn, the Allies began to evacuate their troops from Italy. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
On the 26th of September the company embarked, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
and this time there was no difficulty in taking Wojtek aboard. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
His name was officially written on the passenger list | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
and he was given his own ration card, which each man received, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
and which included his allowance of sweets and tobacco. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
We've always had two problems with the Wojtek story, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
especially trying to find people here in Scotland. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
That was, one - to get the Poles to talk about their past, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
because they'd settled in Scotland and as far as they were concerned | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
Poland was another time, another place. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
The very thing they were fighting for which was freedom... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
freedom of speech, freedom to move, freedom to trade... | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
had all been lost in the Second World War. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
And you're going into a regime that is worse than being bombed and shot. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
It was a time which they wanted to forget | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
and they were living in Scotland, they were Scots, and they wanted | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
to be part of the new regime, as it were. This is a new life. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
You didn't speak Polish. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
"You're Scots, you're British. Be what you are but you're not Polish." | 0:41:33 | 0:41:39 | |
The interesting thing is, lots of people didn't understand or know | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
that Wojtek had a Scottish element to his final years. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:50 | |
At Winfield Camp at its height there would be between 2,500 to 3,000 people. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
Men, civilians, people coming in and out on a daily basis. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
You had a small town plonked in the middle of a field, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
but remember, all these men had to be fed and looked after | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
and their life had to be discussed at length. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
You can feel him here already! | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
He was always curious. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Here's some of the original marks here. And there are some on there. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
You can see on there. Some of them are ripped as they go up. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
You'll see marks on all of the trees, the various damage he's done over the years. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
You can see how they have widened as they've got older. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
But he did incredible damage. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
The claws he had would have mauled a man in seconds, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
would have killed them. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
This strange collar appeared on the tree not that long ago, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:16 | |
with "Wojtek" written on it, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
so we believe people have been actually leaving things. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
Strange. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
DOOR SLAMS LOUDLY | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
CHILD'S VOICE: Wojtek? | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
Are you really a soldier, Wojtek? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
Wojtek, my daddy says you can speak Polish. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Is it true you're going back to Poland? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
I first met Wojtek the bear in October 1946. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:57 | |
We got a message that there were soldiers coming from Glasgow, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
the bus arriving from Italy - with the bear with them - to Winfield. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:12 | |
So we were curious, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
because looking at other soldiers in the Nissan huts, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
you got fed up looking at each other. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
Living in a camp away from a town, a village or whatever, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
you saw the same people day after day, so it was a change to see | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
an animal like Wojtek the bear. He was so friendly and used to people. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:40 | |
He liked a cigarette, he liked sweeties. He liked a bottle of beer. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:47 | |
He saw them drinking, smoking and whatever, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
and he was accustomed to it. It was part of his life. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
He thought, "If it's good for them, it's good for me." | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
He would sit on his backside with a bottle of beer | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
between the front paws and would just drink it like a normal human being. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:10 | |
He would dunk it and nod his head after he'd had it to say thank you. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:15 | |
The time he was here, he saw quite a bit of the countryside, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:27 | |
walking wise, or there were a lot of people who used to come | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
from far and wide to see the bear at Winfield. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
They used to come and take photographs of Wojtek the bear. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
We were accustomed to it, but people that came from the towns or villages to see him, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:46 | |
or if we took him in the lorry to Duns or Berwick, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
it's not often they saw anything like that. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
The majority of the Polish soldiers couldn't speak very much English | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
and the local people couldn't speak Polish. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
So there was a gap. Just like the bear. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
You could say something to him and he nodded his head but he couldn't answer. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
It was the same with the British people that we met or they met us, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
the correspondence was the same. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
I was named "OK" because it didn't matter what anybody said, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
I didn't want to be wrong, so I always said "OK", | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
and that has stuck to this day. I'm still "OK". | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
The morale wasn't too good because at that particular time, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:35 | |
we were still struggling to get in touch with people in Poland. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
There were a lot of restrictions, everything was censored. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
Anything we sent to Poland or any correspondence from them. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:53 | |
There were bits cut out and we had to guess what was on it. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
The morale, overall, we were accustomed to it and we'd make do. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
We had to. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:07 | |
At the time he was at Winfield, he was happy. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
He was around the camp, taken out in the lorry to towns and villages... | 0:47:17 | 0:47:24 | |
He was happy. But, unfortunately, it didn't last. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:31 | |
This is Union Bridge, it's a very famous bridge, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
it's literally two minutes from the camp. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
What he would have done, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
what he did do with the men, is come down here, and would swim in here, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
and he loved it. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
The big problem for us then - for the men, anyway - was where would Wojtek go? | 0:47:57 | 0:48:04 | |
What would happen to Wojtek? | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
He was a hope on legs, as they called him, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:14 | |
so they had a sad last day here before decisions were made. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
The options were very limited. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
He could either be repatriated with the men to Poland, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
which was really a no-no, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
or - the worst decision - to have him put down. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
They had made a definite... There was a definite agreement | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
that if he was put down, they would do it themselves... | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
to be shot. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
That was when I was told, "But we have one problem, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:41 | |
"we have no accommodation for this bear for the winter. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
"Can you help us?" | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
I said, "Have you tried Edinburgh Zoo?" | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
The first thing that struck me. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
He said, "We don't like zoos because they tend to keep animals." | 0:49:55 | 0:50:01 | |
I said, "You could make a proviso that, if Poland became free, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
"he would go back, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
"you must sign that." | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
That is what they did. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
I took it, held it up to the colonel and said, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
"There you are, give that to General Anders, that's his passport." | 0:50:17 | 0:50:24 | |
I first met Wojtek in Edinburgh Zoo, in 1961, when I was eight years old. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:19 | |
I was actually with a Polish friend. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
We came out of the bus, clambered into the zoo, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
struggling through the crowds because he was very, very popular. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
She had obviously known about Wojtek... | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
because she spoke to him in Polish and he responded. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
He waved at us... | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
Just at us, not at anybody else, it was just us! | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
It was totally magical, and love at first sight. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
It was one of these real moments. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:51 | |
I said to her, "Ask him if he knows my grandpa." | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
She said, "Yes, he told me he did!" | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
We were only eight! | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
I talked to Don Gillespie afterwards and I said to him, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:08 | |
"We're willing to pay, you know, for his keep." "Not necessary," | 0:52:08 | 0:52:14 | |
he said, "Look at the thousands that are coming in here just to see the bear!" | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
So, that was it. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
I spoke to him in Polish. I said, "Would you like a cigarette?" | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
and he nodded his head, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
but to get a cigarette to him | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
from that distance, there was a gutter in front | 0:52:31 | 0:52:36 | |
and most of the cigarettes fell into there, he would try with his paw to get them | 0:52:36 | 0:52:42 | |
out of there, and I practically threw a packet of cigarettes away | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
before he got one. And he swallowed it | 0:52:47 | 0:52:52 | |
and nodded his head to say thank you. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
His behaviour was impeccable and I remember Lieutenant Fritz taking a violin and playing a mazurka | 0:52:55 | 0:53:03 | |
and the bear started to dance. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:08 | |
He had obviously done it before. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
He appreciated the fact that he was hearing something | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
and he could tell Polish because his little ears were going | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
back and forward, back and forward, very quick | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
and that's the only way you can tell a bear...when he's taking it all in. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:33 | |
Fritz spoke to him in Polish. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
It's the most...moving thing I've ever seen. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
He lost his freedom, as we understood the freedom he was used to. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:53 | |
He was well looked after, I will not accuse anyone of neglect | 0:53:53 | 0:53:59 | |
or anything, but he was not a free man, or free bear, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
as he was prior to that, but there was no alternative. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
Wojtek! Wojtek! | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
Wojtek, papieros. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
Cigarette! | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
HE CONTINUES IN POLISH | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Hey, do you remember? | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
Papieros! Wojtek! | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
Polish army... | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
Throughout the years of war, they had dreamed of returning to Poland | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
and parading through the streets of the capital | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
while the crowds roared out their welcome. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
But now, Warsaw was in ruins and Russian troops were still in Poland. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:08 | |
They could not go back, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
and as Wojtek had settled down in his new world, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
so must they, too, in theirs. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
In Gdansk, Danzig, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
the General had asked to bring him to Poland. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
But the Communist authorities wouldn't, he was a symbol of free Poland. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
It was prestigious, a little, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
to bring him to show that Poland was nearly free, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
but my colleagues didn't allow it. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
It would have been very nice from Persia to Poland, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
not from Persia to Scotland. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
But it is the history. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
We can say that there is some similarity | 0:56:15 | 0:56:21 | |
between the Poles who remained in the United Kingdom | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
and we were dispersed all through the world. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
This CV of Wojtek can be an example | 0:56:33 | 0:56:39 | |
of the fate of Polish exiles. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:45 | |
Churchill told Anders, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
"Now the war is over, we don't need you. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:54 | |
"You have done what you have done, but we don't need you." | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
It was, for us, something very painful. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
Not only could Wojtek not return to Poland, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:19 | |
many soldiers too. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
So, he is also a symbol of this provisional liberty we had - | 0:57:21 | 0:57:28 | |
provisional. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
Only in '89 we became really free. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
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