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IN IRISH: | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Before his time, we mustn't imagine that Irish culture was ignorant, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
but what arrived with Christianity | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
wasn't just the knowledge of the three sacred languages - | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Latin, Greek and Hebrew - | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
but the whole array of Mediterranean Christian culture | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
that came with it. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
So, Ireland has absorbed and is absorbing this wave of ideas. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
What does it do with them? Does it do much with them? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Oh, it does! It does everything with them. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
The first thing the Irish made themselves masters of was grammar. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
They created a whole library of new Latin grammars, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
and the second thing they did was to make themselves | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
the best mathematicians in Europe, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
and the Irish very quickly become the masters of this | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
in the whole of Western Europe. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
You've described to us how Ireland absorbed | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
so much that was rich from Europe. What did they do with that? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Did they return the compliment? Did they do anything with it? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
They invented new forms of script. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
In ancient Hebrew, Greek and Latin, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
the writing was continuous, scriptura continua. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
But the Irish broke these up by putting spaces between words. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
Most that you and I take for granted on a modern printed page | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
is an invention of the Irish in the 6th and 7th centuries. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
Tell me, then, when Columbanus, in his 40s, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
decides to head to Europe on a missionary endeavour, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
what's in his thinking? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Well, he knows things that they don't. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
He's got the zeal that the Irish have. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
The Western Empire is running down and has run down. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
There are no more Roman Emperors in the West, it's only barbarian kings. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
The Irish come with no army, with no economic power, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
only intellectual acumen. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
The only thing they have is persuasiveness. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
They are the masters of argument, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and they are the exhibitors of a peculiarly rigorous religious life. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
We know he met the king. The King of Burgundy. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Sigebert. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Sigebert gave him this area, this space. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
-It was probably a holy area. -A holy place. A sacred place. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Because we found, you can see on this map. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
We found the plan of a temple, a Roman temple, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
just 20 metres from here. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
So a king gives a complete stranger from Ireland called Columbanus | 0:19:59 | 0:20:06 | |
what you are telling me is a very important Roman site. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
It was an important Roman site. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
But Columbanus was an important person. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Columbanus was like, how to say... | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
le representant. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
-The representative. -The representative of the king. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:20:30 | 0:20:31 | |
The city of Luxeuil was an antique city. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
In the middle of the 4th century, there was some Barbarian invasion. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:26 | |
We imagined, until now, that the city was totally destroyed. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
But, in fact, it wasn't. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
When Columbanus arrived in this city, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
he discovered a Christian community. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Because in this place, we are in a Christian church of the 5th century. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:46 | |
-Before Columbanus? -Before Columbanus. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
There was a Christian people one and a half centuries before Columbanus. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
When Columbanus arrived, Luxeuil was a city in decline. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
Christianity in the region was also in decline, so what did he bring? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
What did Columbanus bring to that situation? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Columbanus impulsed a new spiritual energy. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
He invented a new form of a monastic way of life. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
A monastic way of life that came from Ireland. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
So here we are at the Abbaye Saint-Colomban. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
MAN SPEAKS FRENCH | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
MARY IN IRISH: | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
Luxeuil became very famous, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
because when Columbanus and the first monks came, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
they brought with them... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
-A scholarship, was it? -A scholarship from Ireland. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
So in Luxeuil, it was like the monastery in Ireland, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
with a very important artistic and intellectual life. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
As soon as they founded the monastery, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
the elite was sent to the monastery for their education. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
Why was that? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
What attracted wealthy parents to send their children here? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
Because the monks were very... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Had a very good education. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
THEY SPEAK FRENCH | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
MARY IN IRISH: | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Before Columbanus, in the first centuries of Christianity, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
the forgiveness of God was given only once in life. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:28 | |
So, generally speaking, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
people were waiting till the end of life to ask forgiveness of God. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
Sometimes they were waiting too long and it was not possible. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:42 | |
But for the Irish monks and for Columbanus, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
the idea was every day we have to ask the forgiveness of God. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:54 | |
This is a new idea that the Irish monks | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
introduced into the Catholic church. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
So he's saying you don't have to wait until the end of your life, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
you can have forgiveness every day. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
Exactly. Yes. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
It's a new idea that the forgiveness of God | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
is possible if you are sincere. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
This sounds to me like a very different idea of God | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
from the harsh, judgmental God to the gentle, loving, forgiving Father. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:27 | |
Yes. This is the idea of God of love. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:28:38 | 0:28:39 | |
Bonjour. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:23 | |
Merci, monsieur. Merci beaucoup. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
Columbanus seems to have been very well-received generally, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
but then he had problems with the bishops. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
What was it about Columbanus that these bishops didn't like? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
Columbanus founded three monasteries in this area | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
without any permission from bishops. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
He asked nothing to the bishops of this area, only from the king. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
Some bishops were very earnest. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
They were really bishops. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Some of them were people from the high society | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
coming from very wealthy families. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
They'd choose the way of the church for political reasons, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:48 | |
so they were living in towns, sometimes with mistresses, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:55 | |
and they had nothing to do with gospel. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Columbanus could not admit such a way of life for a Christian. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:04 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:33:12 | 0:33:13 | |
You spent a lot of your career studying and translating Columbanus. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
How does he, the person, come across to you in terms of character? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
I think extremely driven. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
What impresses me about Columbanus is really his energy. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
The energy comes across very strongly in his writings. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
By this stage, Columbanus is a good age. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
Yeah, he's probably in his early 60s. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Yeah, he's trudged across most of Western Europe by this stage. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
Tell me about his spirituality. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
Well, there's something mystical about some of his writings. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
The sense that reason alone cannot comprehend God, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
but also the idea that we are pilgrims on the Earth, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
that we don't really have a home anywhere on Earth, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
so our life is a journey. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
We see this right throughout his religious odyssey on the Continent, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
where he's continually being compelled forward. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Rome and Italy had a very big attraction, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
so he talks a lot about Rome in his letters. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
Not as the seed of empire, but as the Church of St Peter and Paul. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:47 | |
So he's attracted to Italy. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
Oh, they played a crucial role throughout Europe, you could say, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
because before Columbanus arrived on the Continent, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Barbarian tribes like the Vandals had gone through Europe, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
and they had pretty much destroyed all the civilisation | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
of the Roman Empire. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
But when the Irish monks arrived, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
they brought classical learning with them. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
They valued classical scholarship very highly. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Their standard of Latin was very high as well. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
So you could say that the Irish helped save | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
the Roman culture for us. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
They brought back Christianity to the Continent. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
St Gallen has still got the largest collection | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
of Irish manuscripts on the Continent. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
Sometimes in these manuscripts you find notes in the margins | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
written by the scribes themselves. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
They are complaining about the arduous task of writing | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
or composing little poems, as well as commenting on the text. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
Isn't that just typically Irish? Complaining and composing poetry. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:45:42 | 0:45:43 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
Do you think Columbanus' ideas... | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
IN ITALIAN: | 0:52:52 | 0:52:53 | |
-KIDS: -Yes. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
You are all young Europeans. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
When you become a mother or a father, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
will you teach your children about Columbanus? | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
Will you tell them about Columbanus? | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Yes. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
Let's take five words that are about Columbanus. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
IN ITALIAN: | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
-Respect. -Rispetto. Respect. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
-Honesty. -Honesty. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
-Amore. -Love. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
-Peace. -Peace. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:28 | |
-Faith. -Faith. Faith. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
-KIDS: -Courage. -Courage. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
Courage. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:54:46 | 0:54:47 | |
THEY SING HYMN | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
MARY IN IRISH: | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
"A fabric stitched and toughened in its darn." | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
IN IRISH: | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 |