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Benjamin Disraeli said of his wife, "She's an excellent creature, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
"but she never can remember which came first, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
"the Greeks or the Romans." | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
A Hellenic cruise is rather like that. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
It's a strain on the historical imagination. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Greeks everywhere, but what different kinds of Greeks, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
and how they get mixed up with Romans and Asians | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
and with their modern selves. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Here's the island of Mykonos in the Aegean, for instance, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
holiday resort for jaded modern Athenians. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Mykonos, nothing much ever happens there. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
No ancient temples, no indiscreet Greek gods. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It's a living place with its windmills | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
and a tiny Byzantine church for every day of the year. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
But what the sea and the sun and the whitewash here achieve | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
is good enough. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
After their breather at Mykonos, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
the ship and its 300 passengers were bound for the island of Lesbos. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
The ship did its voyaging by night | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
and disgorged us each morning at another place. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
As an experience, it seemed almost unreal. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
However, here we were in Lesbos. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
We were within sight of the Turkish mainland, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
but yet here's an island that has preserved | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
its essential Greek form almost better than any other, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
an island of olive groves and simple living. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
3,000 years separate Homer from this olive grove. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:54 | |
But the plough's the same, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and the ploughman's namesake fought at Troy. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
HE SPEAKS GREEK | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
High up in the mountains of Lesbos lies Agiasos. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Here, the local ladies most graciously entertain us, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
and their friends, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
with the solemn and simple dances of the countryside. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
There are those who like the bouncy earnestness of country dances, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
not least the dancers themselves. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
FOLK MUSIC | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
And now on towards the mainland of Turkey. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
There, we're brought up against one of the astonishing features | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
of Greek civilisation, its tremendous reach. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Why, it's found even as far away as India. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
'Often in the West, its best preserved relic is its theatre. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
'So it seemed timely to discuss Greek drama | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
'with Professor Stanford of Dublin.' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
What would you say, Stanford, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
is your primary interest in the Greek drama, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
its antiquity or its essential modernity? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Well, in a queer kind of way, both, I'd say. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
If we went and saw a performance, I think, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
in the theatre of Dionysus in the time of Pericles, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
it'd seem weird, in many ways, completely outlandish. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
But yet if we thought of the essentials behind it, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
I'm convinced that they're the essentials of modern drama. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
But it was first and foremost a religious rite, wasn't it? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Ah, yes. That made it, in a sense. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
People didn't go there tired after their day's work. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
They went there at a great festival of the god Dionysus | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
early in the morning, fresh sunlight, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
everyone keen and interested to see the religious side of it. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
-It began at the right end of the day. -Exactly, yes. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
Then they could get the full impact | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
of this extraordinarily complex form of drama. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
There was music, there was dancing, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
there were the elaborate rhythms, more elaborate than anything | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
we know, and the whole impact must have been quite tremendous. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
We are, in some sense, returning to that, aren't we, now? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Yes, I'd agree with you there. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I think many of the most, so-called most modern developments | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
of drama are really getting back to the Greek essentials of the drama. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
You mean Julius Caesar played in front of a packing case? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
That kind of thing. Get rid of the scenery, get rid of the furniture, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
get rid of the footlights get rid of the roof if you can, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
and concentrate on the people and the words. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Do you think we should get back to masks, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
like those of the classical actors? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Not entirely, though I've seen a good many mask plays, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and I think they're tremendously effective in their own way, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
much better than any close-up of these film stars, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
as far as I'm concerned, I must say. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
I've seen masks used by actors in the East. It has certain advantages. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
You know at once who the villain and who the hero is. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
But of course, it has obvious disadvantages. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Well, it cramps. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
One can't have mobility of features. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
But I do think it gets the idea of the person | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
rather than the ego of the actor. And what we're up against | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
is the ego of these confounded actors most of the time, I really think so! | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
In a sense, your classical drama was a drama of disembodied ideas. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
Well, it's subtler than that. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
It's as if the character of Agamemnon, of Oedipus, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
took possession of the person and transformed them. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
It's not that it becomes abstract or symbolic entirely. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-It's a transformation, demon possession, if you like. -Yes, yes. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
Well now, you say we're tending more and more to approach | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
the classical ideals and the classical techniques, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
even, in certain respects. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
I think so. I think one can go back to Greece like to a pure fountain | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
and draw the original draught of water, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and then come into the modern age again | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
and use it here with extraordinary success. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
One of those draughts of water can be drawn at Miletus. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
In terms of sheer power, this place, Miletus, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
produced more colonies than any other Greek state. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Its theatre shows it at once to have been one of the great bearers | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
of Greek tradition in Asia Minor. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Here, 10,000 spectators watched the classical and less classical dramas | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
of Greece and Rome. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Here at Miletus, modern science was forestalled by | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
the inspired oracles of Anaximander and Thales. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Living creatures arose from the most moist element | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
as it was evaporated by the sun. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
"Man was like another animal, namely a fish, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
"in the beginning" - so wrote Anaximander, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
astonishingly near the mark. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
And his teacher, Thales, even foretold an eclipse. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Miletus eventually silted up and was left high and dry, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
a fate it shared with its neighbouring rival, Priene. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Between them still flows the River Meander, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
which has enriched our language by its name | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
as it meanders down to the receding sea. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
On the other side of the Meander lies the erstwhile rival of Miletus, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
Priene. In contrast of the flamboyance of Miletus, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Priene had something | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
akin to the Anglo-Saxon spirit of understatement. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Its council chamber was small. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Obviously the town council was a modest size. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Its theatre abstained from all grandeur. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
But its perfection seems almost enhanced by the passage of time. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
Overgrown though it is, the beginnings of what | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
we now call town planning can still be seen in this austere little town. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
Certainly, the 340 dwellings that have been excavated | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
display the Greek house at its most characteristic. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
An unostentatious entrance, an inner courtyard, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
and small rooms around it for living and sleeping. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
It takes an effort of the imagination to set | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
this carefully perfected civilisation amongst the rugged | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
fantasy of the Turkish landscape, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
to look at present-day life | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
and then to think back 2,500 years. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
FOLK MUSIC | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
North of Priene, on the way to Istanbul, we called at Pergamon. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:26 | |
Down in the valley lies one of those splendid testimonies | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
to the almost Edwardian extravagance of the Roman Empire, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
the spa erected in honour of the healing god Asclepius. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Here I met Professor Boehringer of Berlin, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
the present excavator of the site, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
and with him drank the radioactive water of the place. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
These Romans had it all, down to medicinal waters and mud baths. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
When the disreputable emperor, Caracalla, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
got too bored with Rome, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
he came here to recuperate. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
The theatre, with its stage, is nearly perfect | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
and could in fact be used today. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
A subterranean passage led to the pump room, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
to protect those in search of better health | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
from the rigours of fresh air. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Professor Boehringer himself discovered this pump room | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
and explained its commodious proportions | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
with expansive enthusiasm. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
The Romans certainly did nothing by halves. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
They administered to the needs of the body | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
with unfaltering devotion, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
and they knew how to keep a large place warm | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
better than we know in Britain 2,000 years later. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
From the temple of healing to the Hill of Pergamon | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
is only a short ride, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and yet it's 400 years back in time from the Roman spa. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
This was the capital of a sturdy kingdom | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
which held the Barbarians at bay, whether from | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
the interior of Asia Minor or from across the sea in Europe. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
From this towering citadel, the Kings of Pergamon | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
freed Asia Minor from the invading Gauls. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Upon it, they erected an altar over the ashes of their victims. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
But they were more than redoubtable soldiers, these Pergamese. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
They were Greek in the fullest sense. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
Their library, now a few broken and dishevelled walls, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
was second only to that of Alexandria. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
The word "parchment" is indeed derived from Pergamon. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Out of the steep hillside, they hacked one of | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
the most impressive theatres of classical times. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
The arts of peace and war here went hand-in-hand. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Here is the arsenal where they stored | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
the great stone cannonballs which they catapulted upon their foes. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
These same people did immortal justice to their victims | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
by sculpturing their dying agony in stone. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
For Byron's dying gladiator was in reality a dying Gaul. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
"He leans upon his hand. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
"His manly brow consents to death, but conquers agony." | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
24 hours later, we arrived at that symbolic bridge | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
between Europe and Asia, Istanbul, the ancient Constantinople. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Its present skyline of mosques obscures the historical fact | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
that this was a Greek settlement to start with. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
This was Byzantium, later, Constantinople. Today, Istanbul. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
Founded 26 centuries ago. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Greek colony, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
outpost of the Roman Empire, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
capital of the Eastern Empire, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
Hellenic, then Roman, then Byzantine, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
but always Greek at heart | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
until 1453, when Islam finally triumphed. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Istanbul is one of the great hinges of history. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Constantinople lasted for more than 1,000 years. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Its heart was broken, not by the Turks, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
who are commonly accused of the crime, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
but by the rascally Venetian Crusaders | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
who, in the name of Christianity, plundered the city | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
250 years before the Turks. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
We saw some of their loot in Venice at the beginning of the cruise. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
In many ways, the Turks picked up | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
the artistic traditions of Constantinople, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
where the Greeks had dropped them and, incidentally, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
practised a tolerance that deserves our gratitude. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
The centre, often the troubled centre of Constantinople | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
in its great days was the Hippodrome, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
where chariot races and politics were equally at home. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Some of its monuments stand like petrified ghosts | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
in the modern square. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
An obelisk from ancient Egypt, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
brought here by the Romans, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
and set up on a carved pedestal, showing the Emperor and his court. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Next to it, the famous twisted bronze column | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
brought by Constantine from Delphi in Greece, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
the oldest Greek monument in Istanbul. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
But infinitely the greatest of the Byzantine remains | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
is Santa Sophia, that mighty church, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
built by the Emperor Justinian in the 6th century. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
In the mechanics of architecture, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
this is one of the outstanding buildings of the world. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Indeed, the whole span of Greek architecture is contained | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
between Santa Sophia at one end | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
and the Parthenon of Athens at the other. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
1,000 years. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
Athens marks the highest attainment | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
of purely static and restful architecture | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
but here at Santa Sophia, we are in the presence | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
of a perennial battle in brick and stone, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
dome fighting dome, and stability secured by | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
the balanced opposition of forces, much as in a Gothic cathedral. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
In this great church, the last of the Byzantine emperors, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
the 12th Constantine, received the Eucharist for a last time | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
on the 28th April, 1453. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
The following morning, the besieging Turks | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
at last breached the splendid walls of the city | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
and as the Turkish Cicerone has it, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
"With the war cries from 1,000 breasts, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
"mingled the death rattle of the countless wounded." | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
The Emperor himself died, sword in hand. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
10,000 refugees packed into Santa Sophia | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
where, a few hours previously, the priests, they said, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
had been furiously debating the sex of angels. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
The Turks broke in, and there was such slaughter | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
that when Mohammed the Conqueror rode into the church, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
his force trod bodies piled ten feet deep. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
High up on one of the pillars is proof in the shape of a human hand. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
It is the imprint of the hand of the conqueror | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
who struck the pillar and bade all bloodshed cease. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Thereafter, the high altar gave place to a prayer niche | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
facing Mecca. The greatest church in Christendom had become a mosque. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
ISLAMIC PRAYER PLAYS | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
Istanbul is busily turning its back on history. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
New highways instead of twisted medieval streets. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
Instead of picturesque slums, new concrete houses. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
A little of the trimness of a Greek or Roman town is retained | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
though with much loss to the artist and the antiquary. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
When the ship was sailing west again, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
I discussed the significance of Constantinople | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
with a Byzantine scholar, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
Michael Maclagan, Fellow of Trinity College, Oxford. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, it's goodbye to the domes and minarets of Constantinople. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
Ah, that's good. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Goodbye at last. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
I never leave the place without wanting to come back again. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
How it changes. Every time I go there, it's different. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
But it changes. But the great things are always the same. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
There are the grand walls and there is the dome of Santa Sophia. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Yes, but poor old Constantinople. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
It's always being shattered by somebody. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
The Christians, the Turks and now the bulldozers. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
And shabby, too, by the move of the capital to Ankara. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Yes, but it's going ahead. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
These great new bull bars are plunging through the city | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
to the gates. They're really restoring the old plan. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
They're doing a good deal of it. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Clearing away all of this picturesque mess of the Middle Ages. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
It's a pity. These concrete houses and bungalows going up, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
but it's progress. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
It's a very great pity we can't do some more digging | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
under all these places, and find out something about it. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Because, in fact, we always forget how much Europe does owe | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
to Constantinople. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
I would prefer to go as far as to say that | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
there would not be a Western Christian civilisation | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
if Constantinople hadn't held out the Saracens in 717. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
But, just a point there, you always think, or kind of think, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
of Constantinople as a bulwark of European civilisation against Asia. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
As though we had to avoid Asia, rather like a bad smell. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
But, isn't there another point, too, that it was really | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
the channel between Asia and Europe? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Oh, indeed it was. The meeting place of East and West. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Its civilisation was undoubtedly an amalgam, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
partly of things that came back from Rome | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
and things that came in, new, from the East. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I wonder how much of Constantinople was really due to the Greek genius | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
and how much it owes to Asia. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Well, I think one could say the foundation was Greek. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
The stability, the enormous efficiency of the administration, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
800 years of an un-devalued coinage was perhaps Roman | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
but a great deal of the artistic side, probably, I think, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
the dome itself, came from somewhere further east. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Is it really fair to describe Santa Sophia as the last | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
great gift of Greek genius to the world? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
No, I don't think it is. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
To me, Santa Sophia is the first and perhaps the greatest | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
monument of Byzantine architecture. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
I would say that Byzantine history | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
and Byzantine art begin at this point. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
I suppose every work of genius is essentially a fresh beginning. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
In that sense, Santa Sophia is new. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
It's not only new. The staggering thing is that | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Byzantine architecture begins, as you might say, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
with this terrific bang. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
It starts off with its finest and full-blown work | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
springing suddenly, like Minerva, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
fully fledged, out of the head of Jove. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
Another point, Maclagan, naturally, on a Hellenic cruise, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
we tend to think in terms of Greece. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
But what of the Turkish contribution? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Well, I don't think that we can say that Europe has much debt to Turkey | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
but, if we look at this skyline which is now fading away from us | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
in the background there, we will see that the beauty of the skyline | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
of Istanbul, as we call it now, is mainly due to the Turks. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
Apart from the great dome of Santa Sophia, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
this ravishing selection of minarets in different sizes and patterns | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
is all Ottoman art. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
But based on the Greek, so ultimately we come back to | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
the Greeks, after all. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
I think we do, because the highest Turkish architecture, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
the work, perhaps particularly, of Sinan, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
their rather underrated but noble architect, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
is indeed probably a good deal derived from Greek models | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
although the Turks don't care so much to think so. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
But his predecessor, working for the first Turkish conqueror | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
was a Greek. That links the two. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
-That links the two. -Some more coffee. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Turkish, each dominion in turn | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
has left its traces along the coast of Asia Minor. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
And now on our way towards the centre of the Greek world | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
we are bound for Rhodes, a mixture of them all. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Rhodes was once a commercial rival to Athens. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
That monstrous bronze statue, the Colossus of Rhodes, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
one of the seven wonders of the world, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
towered by the harbour, 105 feet high, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
until it crashed in an earthquake | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
and was ultimately loaded onto 900 camels. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
When, at the end of the 13th century, the crusading order, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
the Knights of St John of Jerusalem were thrown out of the Holy Land, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
they captured Rhodes and held it against all comers for 200 years. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
Here, as later in Malta, the Knights carved their armorial bearings, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
built their mansions and held onto this lonely outpost | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
of Western Christianity. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
The walls of this fortress city were long held impregnable. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
And each section was looked after by a different nationality. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
This was the English section of the wall. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
the Medieval Grand Master's Palace looks upon a Byzantine church | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
and a Turkish mosque is but a few streets away. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
When one thinks that the almost unending conflict | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
in the eastern Mediterranean is with us still, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
it is useful to remind the zealous of Rhodes | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
that there's hardly anyone, on this island at least, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
whose ancestor hasn't come here as the result of some war, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
fought for some faith or other. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Yet, today, there is harmony here, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
and the leisured peace of a Mediterranean backwater. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
A Hellenic cruise in these waters is a history lesson | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
for us to remember and to ponder. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
But, for those who live here, to forget if they can. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
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