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Once we walked through that gate we were hooked. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
When I look at that house, I just think, "Wow," | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
and every time I see it I'm just like, "Wow." | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
It's a castle, it's a castle! How can you not buy a castle? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Wow, that's some fireplace. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
It's going to be an amazing home. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
First day of the rest of its life. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
You happy? | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
We are way, way, way over budget. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
I mean, I am actually living in a building site. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
You have to make sacrifices. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
There are days when you just think, "Have we made the right decision? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
"Are we doing the right thing?" | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
I want it to look what it looked like when it was first built. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Oh, this is just such a beautiful place. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
It's like every romantic part of my brain is just firing. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
You don't have any idea of how much money this is going to cost you? | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
I don't think either of us envisaged quite as big a project | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
as we've actually taken on. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
It's still a dream. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
It's still a dream that we're actually doing it. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
I can't wait to move in. It seems just to take forever. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Just a nightmare. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
I'm telling myself not to worry. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
I mean, what can I do? I've got to finish the house. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
This is Nebo Chapel, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
which sits in a prominent position in Hirwaun, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
an old mining village in south Wales. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Once the heart and soul of the community, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
today Nebo is bleak, dismal and, worst of all, empty. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
The roof is letting in water, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
the timbers are rotten and the walls are crumbling, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
threatening the future of the chapel's 19th-century interior. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Nebo Chapel has lost its way. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
But there's about to be a resurrection for this Nonconformist chapel | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
because Nebo has two new disciples, Alan and Hayley. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:17 | |
I showed Al lots of properties on the auction websites | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
because I really enjoy looking at properties. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
I said, "Oh, let's buy a chapel" as a joke and then he turned round | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
and said, "Oh, yeah, OK, great, let's look at it." | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
So we did, and we ended up buying it. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
In October 2011, Alan from London and Hayley from Cardiff | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
became the proud owners of this historic building | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
for the heavenly sum of £25,000. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
When we walked in and saw it, it was a real dream. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
Beautiful windows, the pews, the pulpit, everything. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
You just walk into the building and you just fall in love with it. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
It's special. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
There has been a chapel on this site since 1823, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
although the Nebo we see today was erected in 1851, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and seated 800 worshippers. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
A dwindling congregation led to its closure in 2007. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
I love old buildings. I just think they're just beautiful. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
It's got history, so you want to make sure the history's there | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-for the future. -Future generations, yeah. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
After buying Nebo, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
Hayley and Alan successfully applied for planning permission | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
to change the use of the chapel to residential. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Alan, who works as a building surveyor, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
made a 3D model to illustrate his proposal. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
His design has to take into consideration | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
the planning restrictions surrounding this Grade II listed building. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
It's not necessarily just about achieving planning policy, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
it's about making sure the proposals fit in with the community's | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
expectations of the structure. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
It meant something to many people in the past, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
and the proposals needed to be sympathetic to that | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
and honour those memories and respect the structure as it was. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Externally, we're not actually doing much to change the structure. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Most of the works will go on inside. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
The first stage is the conversion of the vestry. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Here, Hayley and Alan will build internal walls | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
to create three bedrooms downstairs, an en-suite and a family bathroom. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
Upstairs will be an en-suite bedroom | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and an en-suite accessed from the downstairs master bedroom. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
Stage two of the project, the chapel, happens at a later date. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
this will be a much bigger job | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and as planning regulations state it cannot be divided up, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
they will retain the open-plan layout | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
and turn it into a large living space and an office | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
with a kitchen, dining area and lounge upstairs. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
But this is a high-risk restoration. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
They only have the money to get started on the vestry. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
They don't have enough to finish it. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
We've only got 20 grand to play with initially. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
It's not a lot of money at all, really. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Yeah, it's making me nervous. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
We have to sort of beg, borrow and steal sort of to do it. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Sometimes you need to take risks in life to get what you want. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
But the gamble will pay off if they can get enough work completed | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
to convince the bank to give them a mortgage. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
This would fund further restoration. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
In spite of having full-time jobs, these novices are attempting | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
to do the whole build themselves. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
It's a tiny budget for such an ambitious project | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
so they're having to watch every single penny. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
We've been digging the trenches for about four full days. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
We did look at the costs for a mini digger and we'd rather save | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
the £300 now and then when it comes to sort of buying something | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
like a shower or a box of tiles, you can't use your physical labour | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
or your enthusiasm to produce those things, you have to go and buy them. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
This is no ordinary restoration. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
We've never seen a budget so low for a building as big | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
but if Alan and Hayley can pull this project off, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
they will have the forever home of their dreams. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Time for me to find out why they're willing to risk it all | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
on Nebo Chapel. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Lovely to meet you, Alan. Really good to meet you. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-Lovely to meet you, hi. -Hello, Hayley. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
And here it is, the fabulous chapel. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
It's an amazing building, isn't it? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
It is, it really is. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
You've got such scope to really do | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
exactly what you want with this property. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Is that part of the attraction for you, Hayley? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Yeah, I think so, I think so. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Obviously Al's got the skills to sort of draw the plans | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and things, so, it's a sort of real bonus for us, really, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
the fact that we can design it as we want it, and what we need. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
Is one of you going to take control of the finances? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Well, Al's sort of allocated the finances to me. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
How's that? | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
You know, it's OK! | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Al inevitably ends up doing everything, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
I have to be honest, and I just do what I'm told. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Mix the cement, carry the buckets, you know. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
This is the upstairs. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
It's incredible! | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Isn't it a weird thought thinking of 800 faithful locals | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
sitting in here staring down at the pulpit? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Is that a nice feeling to know you're going to be living in that environment? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
-Yeah, it is quite a nice feeling, isn't it? -It is, yeah. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
It's going to be something special, isn't it? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Alan and Hayley are not able to get a mortgage to help restore the chapel | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
until significant building work has been done. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
There's no money in the budget for professional trades. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
There's a hell of a lot of pressure on you - are you worried? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
A little worried, yeah. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
This is the first property I've ever owned. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
We've done sort of bits and pieces together in the past, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
but it's very, very small. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
You know, decorating bedrooms and things like that. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
It's quite a big leap from doing a little bit of decorating together | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
to buying a huge, almost derelict chapel, isn't it? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Was there no point you thought maybe we'll start with a terraced house? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
There's times when I think, "why didn't we just buy a normal property?" | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
You know, new kitchen, new bathroom, easy. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
But I don't think that's our characters. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
We like unusual things, we like to do... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
If there's an easy way or a hard way, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
we'll pick the hard way every time. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
But Alan and Hayley's £20,000 will barely touch the chapel | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
so they're starting this restoration at the back of the building, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
in the vestry. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Gosh, wow, it's enormous as well, isn't it? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
It's a very beautiful space, isn't it, this? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Yeah, it is a beautiful space. It's gone back to its skeleton. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
When we bought it, it was like a school, Sunday school. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
A Sunday school, just a Sunday school. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
It's just a big hall and we've stripped it right back to its skeleton | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
just to sort of identify defects | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
and just so we can... blank canvas and start again. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
This area here will become the master bedroom, so be bedroom one. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Within bedroom one, there'll be a small narrow staircase | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
which will lead up to an en-suite bathroom. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
The idea is that you'll sit in the bath | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
and your eye level will be at the window. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Oh, God, how lovely. I like that. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Very pleased with that, is Al. Yeah, no, I don't blame you. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Because money is so tight on this, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
and I think this might be one of the tightest budgets | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
I've ever come across, what are you doing | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
to make sure that there's no wastage here? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Anything and everything. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
I mean, to take the digging of the foundations as an example, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
on a normal project, people might excavate the spoil | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
and have it sort of carted off site. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
We costed that and that was going to be about £1,500. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
That would be a huge proportion of our budget, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
so what we done was we spent £250 on railway sleepers, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
we put them in the garden, formed a structure | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
and we deposited all the spoil from here into the railway sleepers. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Formed our garden area at different tiers | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and we've not got to get rid of any spoil or anything like that. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
That's incredible. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Hang on a minute. I thought you were meant to be doing this on your own? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
There are loads of people back here. Who are all these people? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Al's son, Lewis, my two sisters, Madison and Lydia, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
my daughter Shannon and my dad's here as well. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It's quite a project for them to do on their own, isn't it? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Yes, I think they're very brave, really. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
What about you, Shannon, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
do you feel this is going to be a successful project? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I'm not sure. I think it's a bit too much. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Are you helping at all? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
Not really! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Alan and Hayley know very little about the old chapel | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
that still sits proudly in the village of Hirwaun. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
As they struggle to transform it into their home, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Dr Kate Williams will attempt to uncover what it has meant | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
to generations of this community. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Meanwhile, Kieran Long will attempt to understand | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
the secrets and stories that may be hidden in its architecture, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
starting in Hirwaun, home to Nebo. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Well, it's fascinating standing on this spot in Hirwaun, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
because you immediately see, strikingly, three chapels | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
within, you know, within sight. And that tells you something. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
That tells you that these were built at a time of new thinking | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
about religion and differences between people's beliefs. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
It tells you that Hirwaun is a place of independent thought, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
of new thinking about religion and the buildings prove that. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
You can imagine, late 19th century, Sunday morning, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
everybody's day off from the mine. You know, meeting here, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
passing the time of day, getting the village news. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
And, now, what modern planning has done to that brilliant context | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
for social life, is build a public toilet in the middle of it. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
It's like the worst insult to a kind of urbanism, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
to a kind of arrangement that really gives the heart and soul | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
to a place, has been torn out of it by a public loo. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
You come up this path, up this rise to the highest point | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
in the whole town and here's this quite imposing symmetrical facade. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
This is a chapel but it needs a sign on it telling you it's a chapel. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
That's not what we think of in terms of church architecture. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
We normally know exactly what a church looks like. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Nebo Chapel was a place for Nonconformist worship. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Nonconformism refers to a number of religious groups, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
such as Methodists and Baptists, who were members of a Protestant faith | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
but had a more modest approach to worshipping than the established Church. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
This is reflected in the architecture at Nebo. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Well, it's an amazing space. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
This kind of high, naturally-lit barn | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
with this beautiful arcade in here. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
In front of us there's no altar, no sort of sacrificial symbolism. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
It's just a pulpit with a place to read. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
And even this clock, that I love, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
it's the kind of clock you might find in a station, or in an office. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
It's not anything elaborate. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Well, at the beginning of the 19th century, in architectural terms, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
the fashion is Gothic architecture, especially in churches. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
All of those churches are in a way designed to make you feel quite small. This is the house of God. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
This, of course, is a completely different kind of architecture. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
You don't feel like you're up in the rafters here. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
This is kind of very generous space, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and it really tells you what this building's all about. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
It's about light and it's about view. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
It's absolutely about that connection with the pulpit. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
These are meeting houses, not churches. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
They're not places of worship so much as places of a community | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
coming together and sharing their beliefs. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, this kind of stuff started in the upper rooms of pubs or in people's homes. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
This kind of reform religion began as a bottom-up community thing. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
And I think the roots of this religion | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
beginning in somebody's home remains in the design of these buildings. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Rebuilt in 1851, Nebo is one of over 5,000 chapels | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
constructed in Wales during the 19th century. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Kieran's task is to understand where Nebo Chapel sits in that story. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
It's another day at the chapel for Alan. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
He's spent every spare hour of the last five months on site | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
and it's finally beginning to pay off. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
It feels like we're progressing, and quickly, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
which is nice because.... doing the digging the trenches | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
and doing foundations and doing the strip out seems to have taken ages | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and now we're putting walls up and starting to form rooms, it really feels like it's moving. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Compared to Hayley's cement, my cement's rubbish. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
When Hayley mixes it, she gets the consistency right every time. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
I miss having Hayley up here when she's not here to help. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
My experience in terms of brick and block work is limited to a degree. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
I mean, we've done brick ponds and brick walls in the garden | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
but that's in the garden - it doesn't matter if you go too wrong with that. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
This is the first time I've really done a block wall to form a room | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
and to sort of take a load off the floor. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
As long it don't fall down, I'll be happy. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Hayley's back to pass a critical eye. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Been busy. Al's done quite a lot today actually. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Sort of, once you start seeing the walls up and you start seeing | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
the room sort of being formed, it gets quite exciting. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Although I do get a bit jealous. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
I'm like, "Oh, I would have liked to have been here myself." So... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
I wish you were here because I'm not very good at mixing the cement. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
I was going to say, your cement looks a little bit sloppy up there. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yeah, it was a bit in places, yeah. -You've done a good job. -I did say I missed you. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
Ah, you've done a good job. It's really good. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Alongside block walls in the vestry, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
there's also damage to the 19th century chapel to restore. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
He's starting in the rafters, some of which are rotten, thanks to a leaky roof. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
Our plan for today is to reinstate a timber framework that we've taken down. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:32 | |
The timbers that we've removed were just completely rotten. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
The rigidity of the plaster was probably the only thing holding them up. They were just gone. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
I mean, when we first bought the chapel, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
we anticipated having to do a degree of repair works. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
I didn't anticipate having to do the extent that it is now, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
but that's just part and parcel of what you get when you buy an old building. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
You get a real sense of sort of space when you're up this high and when you're up with the gods. | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
I can stand here and sort of visualise the finished living space | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and the dining space, the kitchen area. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
I am scared of heights. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
That's why you might catch me every now and then just holding on | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
to something, just to sort of ease myself, really. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Each nail that I drive into the timbers, like, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
it's one less nail I've got to worry about. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
It's a step closer to sort of reinstating the ceiling | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and finishing off this section of the works, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and then sort of moving on to the next. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
To find the beginnings of Nonconformist religion, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Kate's looking back almost 500 years | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
to when Henry VIII changed the course of British history. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
He broke away from the Roman Catholic Church | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
and established the Church of England. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
In the aftermath of the English Reformation in the 1540s, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
many people in Britain felt that Henry VIII hadn't gone far enough in Protestantism. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
Really, he pretty much kept the Church of Rome in terms | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
of its trappings, in terms of its appearance, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
and these people wanted a much more stripped-down form of Protestantism. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Nonconformism was banned as it was a threat to the Church of England | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
and those who practised Nonconformist worship were victimised by the state. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Nonconformists began as secret persecuted groups of people, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
but they soon came to dominate great swathes of our nation. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
And that's why Nebo Chapel should be a window into this incredible story. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Following the Reformation in the 16th century, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
attitudes to religion fundamentally changed. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
This was also reflected in architecture. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Kieran's come to London to the first new church to be built after the Reformation. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
And like Nebo, it doesn't look like a typical place of worship. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
In fact, at the time, it looked like nothing else. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Well, we've come to one of the most influential churches built anywhere in Britain, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
Inigo Jones' Saint Paul's Church at Covent Garden in London. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
When this building was completed in 1633, it would have been | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
completely alien to the rest of London. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
London was a medieval city, more or less, still then. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
This whole piazza would have been an open space, no market then in Covent Garden, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
and it would have commanded it with this Tuscan portico. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
This is the first entry of polite architecture, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
of classical architecture, into the UK. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Saint Paul's Church had a profound influence, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
because it was the idea that you could bring different architectural styles from Greece and Rome | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
to the UK for a kind of institutional building, for a religious building. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
And this was something that, in the 19th century, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
Nonconformism was to take up and to deploy on their own churches. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
This is the start of a whole movement that leads | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
to a transformation in the way that Nonconformist chapels were built, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
and also explains how Nebo sits in that amazing chronology. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
17th-century worshippers at Saint Paul's followed the Church of England | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
but for those who did not conform with the religion of the country, there were strict penalties. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
Kate has come to the home of the nation's greatest collection of Nonconformist literature, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
Dr Williams' Library. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
What I've come to look for is records of these Nonconformists. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
How life, how they proceeded in the late 17th century when they were, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
you know, being persecuted, when they were looked down on. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
They were really hated by many people in society. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Well, this is this incredible document. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
I mean, it's really a great privilege for me to see it. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
A Nonconformist minister, Phillip Henry, his daughter, Sarah Henry, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
she wrote down all his sermons, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
and what is a really exciting moment is here, when she stops writing sermons, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
because at this point her father is being taken away. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
He's been imprisoned simply for being a Nonconformist minister. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
And what he says to them is really terribly moving. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
He says, "If this were the last time I were to speak to you, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
"as for ought I know it may, this should be my exaltation." | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
He's saying, "Don't forget me, these are my words." | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
And he goes on to remind them of their Christian duty, he says, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
"Wherefore my beloved, as you have always obeyed, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
"not in my presence only, but now much more in my absence. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
"Work about your own salvation with fear and trembling. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
"For it is God that worketh in you." | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Towards the end of the 17th century, and now under the rule of James II, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Nonconformists had endured 150 years of repression. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
But a revolution would follow. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Kate has come to the parliamentary archives to see what happened next. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
Attitudes to the freedom of worship fundamentally changed for ever | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
when William and his wife, Mary, came to the throne in 1689. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
Parliament said, "Look, come on over, come and be king". | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
This king who seemed very fair, very tolerant. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
He arrived, incredibly popular. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
He cemented his popularity, William, by simply saying, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
"We've got to have an Act of Toleration, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
"we can't have this continued fact | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
"that the State dictates what religion you must have". | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
The Act of Toleration was brought in almost immediately | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
and granted freedom of worship to Nonconformists. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
This document is absolutely vital to British history, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
to the history of religion and, most of all, to the modern-day Briton. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
We live in a country in which we are all free to worship the way we wish. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
If it wasn't for this document then, simply, Nebo Chapel wouldn't exit. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
For me, I mean, this is the starting point, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
the beginning of a new dawn for Britain. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
You know, the old days of persecution, of religious, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
you know, tyranny, essentially, are over. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Alan and Hayley have got just £20,000 | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
to do the first stage of restoration to Nebo Chapel. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
They are doing most of the work themselves, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
and with funds dwindling fast, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
they've got another potentially expensive problem. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
A large section of cornicing is missing, so Alan and Hayley | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
want to make a mould and produce their own plasterwork, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
to repair the ceiling. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Give it a couple of years, all this cornicing would have been lost, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
so we were lucky that we caught it at the right time | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
to be able to take a moulding. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
So, I mean, it might cost us... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
I don't know, total process to make all the cornicing, maybe 200 quid. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
We was getting quotes in for sort of £200, £250, per linear metre, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
so if we can make all of the cornicing, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
which is a good 12 metres, we've saved a lot of money then. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
To make a mould, Hayley paints a section of the cornicing with latex. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
A total of 25 coats will be needed. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
This bit's the fun bit, sort of after all the hard graft, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
and I like crafty stuff as well, so this is good fun for me. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Hopefully I'll do it right, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
hopefully it'll work and save us a small fortune. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Two down, 23 to go! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
We continue our quest to find out where Nebo fits in | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
to the story of Welsh chapels. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
We know the Act of Toleration | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
changed the lives of Nonconformists, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
allowing them to worship freely. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
Kieran is visiting a chapel that shows how the Act | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
affected communities in Wales during the 1690s. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
So, we've come to a fairly lonely, remote hillside in Mid Wales | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
to see Maesyronnen Chapel, which is the earliest example | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
of an independent chapel in Wales following the Act of Toleration. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
This remote location here really tells you something | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
about the origins of these kinds of congregations | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
and, therefore, explains the buildings, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
because these were groups of farm workers, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
sometimes in remote communities, coming together, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
sometimes in secret, at least initially in secret, to worship. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Now, of course, it's no coincidence, then, that when they take on | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
a kind of architectural home, it looks like a farm building. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Oh, it's just absolutely beautiful in here. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
I think the first striking thing here | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
is that sense of it not being like a theatre auditorium. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
The seating layout is quite different to most churches. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
The furniture here is disposed in a way | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
where you look at each other across the room and, in a way, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
you're not really focused on any one part of the building. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Well, the chapel here has been beautifully restored | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
but, in a way, that can mask some of the truth | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
of what it would have been like in the 17th century and 18th century | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
to worship here. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
This piece of furniture tells some of that story | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
because it's designed to shield you from the wicked draughts | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
that would have been whistling through this barn-like building. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
And you have to also imagine this building with a rammed earth floor. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
You know, the flagstones are from the 19th century that we see today. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
It would have been freezing cold. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
You know, this was not an easy place to come and worship. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Well, I'm now standing in the pulpit where generations of preachers, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
300 years or more, have been preaching. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Now, the window over my left shoulder here has two purposes. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
One, of course - helps me to read the Bible, it allows light in. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
But it's wrong to see it as just a pragmatic thing. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
It also, of course, dramatically back-lights the preacher. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
And particularly if you're on this side of the chapel, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
if you enter the chapel and I'm stood here, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
you see this kind of halo-like light behind my head. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
And I think that's a really important | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
and deliberate architectural effect. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
I can see from here the faces of every person in the congregation. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
There's a sense of this being a commanding position, of course, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
but also, it's one that is kind of equal for everybody. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
It's been great coming here today, because we've seen | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
the kind of origins of a whole school of thought | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
that leads to a wide variety of chapel building | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
happening all over Wales. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
It shows the architectural expression | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
founded on our ideas of equality amongst the congregation | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
and, you know, all of those things are still present, I think, in Nebo | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
and in other chapels, but this is the kind of wellspring of all of that. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Kieran's next task will be to trace the journey of worshipping, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
from barns like Maesyronnen to buildings like Nebo. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
Hayley and Alan have spent the last nine months | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
working tirelessly at the chapel, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
but things have taken a turn for the worse. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Thieves have broken in. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
This is where they got in, yeah. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
When I arrived, the Perspex sheeting was bent up, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
the window was wedged open. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Smashed the glass and the frame got chewed up a little bit. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
We're as secure as we can be for the budget that we've got. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
You could spend, you know, ten grand, easy, securing the premises, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
but in my eyes, it does one of two things. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
We haven't got that money to spend, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
but it also sends a beacon out to people, "Oh, actually, yeah, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
"we've got loads in there", when we haven't got... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Well, now we've got nothing in there, so... | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
The vital collection of power tools they rely on to restore Nebo | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
has been stolen. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
We're doing this on a shoestring budget. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
We've got next to no money, so those tools that have been taken, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
those power tools, they're not top-of-the-range tools, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
they're tools that we've just about been able to afford | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
in order to do things within the chapel and to progress that on. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Having a negative experience like a burglary | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
can change your perspective on what are we doing it for, you know, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
what's the benefits | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
if it's two steps forward and two steps back? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
You can fall out of love with a project the more it lingers on, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
and the chapel's been in our life for 18 months. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
You haven't got the heating on, you haven't got the plumbing in. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
The list of things yet to do is a lot longer | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
than the list of things that we've achieved. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Wales was key to fuelling the Industrial Revolution of Britain | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
in the 19th century. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
People flooded into the valleys of South Wales to find work, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
creating new communities in the process. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
As new pits were dug, new chapels were built | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
and Nonconformist worship became increasingly popular. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Kate's come to Blaenavon and has headed 90 metres underground. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:35 | |
In the early 19th century, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
Wales was becoming a hotbed of nonconformity. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
You know, underneath, there were the mines, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
this hard, difficult, dangerous work, which seemed without salvation, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
and yet at the same time, the chapels were strengthening | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
and I really think the two were linked. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
Essentially, chapels like Nebo gave people hope. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
Whole families would work in the mine - the father might be here, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
the mother may be next to him, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
the children, the grandparents, all his brothers. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Basically, when you were born into a mining family, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
you knew that was your destiny. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Life was really hard for the workers in the Industrial Revolution, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
particularly for the children. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
Children working in the mine could be as young as six, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
and they were expected to work 12 hours a day. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
It was difficult, it was dangerous, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
and it was often terrifying work for a child. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Chapels became the social heart of these new communities, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
the effect of which is still seen today. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Kate now needs to understand what role Nebo had to play | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
in the village of Hirwaun. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
Restoring Nebo is an enormous challenge for Alan and Hayley. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
I've come to see how they're getting on | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
and how they're coping since the burglary. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Well, 80% of the tools, power tools, were stolen. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Yeah, they took all the big power tools, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
which was a bit of a knock, wasn't it? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
What are you going to do, Alan? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
Because you've got absolutely no money. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
Well, we'll find a way. We just have to reallocate money. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
I mean, where we sort of budgeted | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
to hire a nail gun for a weekend, which is £45, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
we won't hire a nail gun for a weekend, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
so that's two weekends on the trot - that's £90 we've saved. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
But have you managed to move on from that? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
Yeah, I think we have. I think... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
It's still raw, it's still quite early on, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
but...a project like this, you can't let it get you down. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
You have to remain positive, you have to look forward, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
and it's almost sticking two fingers up to them. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
It doesn't matter what you've done to us, we're going to finish this. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
This is going to be our family home. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
They only have £8,000 left to finish the build | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
and the vestry still resembles a building site. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
They're a long way from getting Nebo up to scratch | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
for the mortgage valuation by the bank. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
-That's going to be a bedroom? -That's a bedroom. -What's this one? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
This will be a doorway into the bathroom, family bathroom. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
-Family bathroom. -Underneath the sort of flat section ceiling | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
will be a free-standing bath with a shower over. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
It all sounds really lovely, Alan, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
but it all seems to be a really long way away. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
-It looks like it is, but it's... -Yeah, because it is. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
Yeah, it is, yeah! There is a lot of work to do, but we'll get there. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
Alan and Hayley are determined to finish this project | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
and with money tight, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
their parents are frequent visitors to lend a hand. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
You're hands-on parents, aren't you? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Yeah. You've got to do what you've got to do for your kids. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
I'm supportive of Alan and, you know, believe in his dream, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
although I am a little concerned at various aspects of it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
What could possibly be concerning you, Brian?! | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
The size of the project. I think the project was way too ambitious to start. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
-Do you? -Yeah, I do. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
And I don't think the balance that they've got left | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
is enough to get them to where they want to be. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
-What, the eight grand? -Yeah, I don't think there's enough money there. That's my opinion. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
Alan's parents are clearly worried about the future of this project, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
but does Hayley share their concerns? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
At what point would you step back from the project? | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
I don't think we'd ever quit. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
I think if you take on something like this | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
and you feel as passionately about it as me and Al do, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
I think you know that you will never quit. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
There must be nights when you go to bed and just weep with exhaustion. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Yeah, I do get tired sometimes. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
It does start off as a fairy tale, doesn't it? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
But I think the reality of doing it does take its toll. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
And although it is a labour of love, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
-because we do love the property, it's hard work. -Yeah. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
It's really hard work. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
As communities were brought together by the mining industry, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
its workers and families flocked through the doors | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
of Nonconformist chapels. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
Kate's come to Glamorgan Archives to trace this story at Nebo Chapel. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
At the centre of this boom were the Crawshay family. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
But they were actually a Yorkshire family | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
and they invested a lot of money in the mine, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
machinery, made it much bigger, and people came from all over Wales, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
all over Britain, to work in the mine. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
To the Crawshay family, Nebo Chapel was somewhere for the workers. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
They gave money to it because they wanted the workers to go to chapel. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
But it really wasn't somewhere for them. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
But what happened was, there was a big change. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
Henry, the son of William, the first son, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
he was the ironmaster in charge of the ironworks, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
and he fell absolutely in love with a local girl, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Eliza Harris, who worked at the ironworks. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
And he fell passionately in love with her. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
So much so that when she got pregnant, the family said, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
"Disown her, pay her off, get rid of her". | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
And he said, "No, I want to marry her". | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Henry and Eliza became Nonconformists, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
and in 1834, their twin daughters were christened at Nebo Chapel. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
So, that's an incredible link there. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
This place that began in such humble circumstances | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
is now at the christening of this millionaire family. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
They were really part of the community, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
and Nebo was so vital to this. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
William, the great patriarch, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
was so annoyed by the love of Henry for Eliza, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
he pushed him out of managing the mine | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
and brought in his other son, Francis. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
And he was a man who was really devoted to the area. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
He learnt Welsh, he was interested in the workers. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
He spoke to them in their language, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
and also was very concerned about religion, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
and he gave a lot of money to Nebo Chapel as well. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
So, Francis is one of our really important figures, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
not only in the community, in the area, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
but also in the history of Nebo. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Nebo Chapel was rebuilt in the style we see today | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
thanks to money from the Crawshay family in 1851. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
But by this date, Nonconformist architecture in Wales | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
had made a massive leap from its humble beginnings. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Up to this point, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
Nonconformist communities had fairly modest lodgings, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
partly a hangover from when they had to worship in secret, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
and also because they were making these things from the ground up | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
with the local labour force and the materials available to hand. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
At the beginning of the 19th century, everything begins to change. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
There was an explosion of chapel-building in Wales | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
and by the mid-1850s, there were enough seats | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
to accommodate 75% of the population. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
What were the publications and documents | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
that the architects in Wales were looking at | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
that were influencing them | 0:35:10 | 0:35:11 | |
and helping them to find these new architectural languages? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Kieran's headed to London. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
He's at the Royal Institute of British Architects library, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
reading the important journals and books of the day... | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
starting with The Builder, a magazine launched in 1843. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
I think this kind of literature | 0:35:39 | 0:35:40 | |
is one of the critical architectural debates of the day | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
that would have influenced people | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
building these ecclesiastical buildings. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
These are buildings for worship, after all, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
and they needed an appropriate style. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
They would have been reading about it here. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
Following its introduction by Inigo Jones in the 17th century, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
classical architecture grew in popularity | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
throughout the Georgian period and into the 19th century. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Publications like The Antiquities Of Athens, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
together with The Builder, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
were a font of knowledge on the classical style, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
focusing on symmetry and proportion. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
This is just an absolutely exquisite book, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
and it's also so evocative of a time when, you know, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
travel was becoming easier, these men were going to the Parthenon, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
drawing it with incredible precision and beauty, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
and then bringing it back as a kind of manual | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
of how to do things in Victorian England. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:32 | |
Now, what we see is this fans out across the country | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
through these journals and books is, of course, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
people taking the bits that they can afford to reproduce, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and that's how we see this kind of variation | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
in the chapels of Nonconformism in Wales. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
We see different levels of resolution. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
I think Nebo has enough to suggest that they're aware of this stuff, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
but probably not enough money to reproduce the great porticos | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
and tablatures of Greek temples. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Classical architecture was the chosen style for Nonconformist chapels, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
but when did the architecture that inspired Nebo first arrive in Wales? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
Work is progressing at the chapel. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
The roof timbers have been replaced, and now Alan and Hayley | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
need to make a start on removing the pews. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
We're going to try and take the pews out carefully | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
so that we can hopefully put them back together | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
in order to sell them on, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
because, obviously, the money then from the pews | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
will be put towards, hopefully, a boiler, so... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
If we can get enough money. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Fortunately, they've got help, as Hayley's sister, Laura, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and her boyfriend, Emmett, are visiting. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
-It's going to be... -Huge. -..nice to get a real sense of space. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
-It's quite an exciting day, really. -It is exciting, yeah. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
It's exciting when you start taking them out. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
They define the chapel as what it is and we're ripping it out | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
and changing its use, so yeah, it is sad to see them go. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
It's not completely lost, is it? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
No, no, they'll appear in someone's home, can be enjoyed. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
And cherished, yeah. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
While Alan finishes taking out the pews, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Hayley's continuing with the ceiling. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
She's taking a mould of the existing cornicing | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
so it can be replicated and used to repair the plasterwork. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
It's time to remove the mould. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
If this doesn't work, Hayley will have wasted hours of her time | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
and another piece of precious cornicing could be lost. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
It's taken sort of weeks and weeks to do it, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
so it'll sort of make or break today. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
Is it going to work or not? So, fingers crossed it'll be fine! | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
This is a delicate operation. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Emmett's a prop-maker and makes moulds for a living, so can advise. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Emmett's given me some really good advice | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
about putting even pressure on it | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
and sort of doing it gradually and taking your time. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I don't want to break it! | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
Really conscious that I'm going to fall backwards off the ladder! | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
It's just taking all the paint off. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Oh! | 0:39:10 | 0:39:11 | |
I was scared to put up a lock, unfortunately. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Oh, sugar! | 0:39:18 | 0:39:19 | |
We'll fix that. That's fine. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:25 | |
We've got a mould to fix it now, so... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
It's quite dry, so we're just going to... It's worked, hasn't it? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
It's just... | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
If it's come out like that, perhaps they needed replacing anyway. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
And now we've got the mould, we can do that. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
There's always a risk you're going to damage | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
the section of cornicing that you've taken the mould from. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
If it had ripped it off and ripped the mould | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
and we'd have lost the section of cornicing and lost the mould, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
it would have been all for nothing, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
but we've got a mould, we can fix what's broken. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Yes, she's done a really good job. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
For her first mould, latex and fibreglass mould, it's brilliant. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
So, it's been a successful weekend at Nebo. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
It feels like you're ticking a lot off your list. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-One of the positive ones, really. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Kieran has come to the first Nonconformist chapel | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
to be built in the classical style in Wales. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
It's one of the country's most important, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
but also tragically forgotten chapels. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Well, it's a magnificent building. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
It's a bit tired, it's a bit half derelict-looking for now, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
but it's almost like discovering a Roman ruin in the Welsh countryside. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Peniel Chapel in Tremadog was constructed in 1810 | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
and has clear references to Inigo Jones' St Paul's Church | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
and none of the vernacular traditions of Nonconformism. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
It would directly influence every one | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
of the thousands of classical chapels that would follow. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
This building really does introduce the classical revival into Wales. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
It's a kind of herald. There are still, of course, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
lots of chapels being built in a much more modest style at this period, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
but this is a building that really signals the future. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
The most striking thing about this building | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
is this astonishing portico that just looms in front of you | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
as you approach the chapel. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
And this is like nothing else we've ever seen so far | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
in chapel-building in Wales. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
It's highly architectural, highly designed, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
and designed to kind of impose a set of civic values. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
It's like a monument all of a sudden. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
This is no mere meeting house. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Once you get behind the portico, there's an interesting effect, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
because the building behind it is quite domestic. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
It has these square sash windows, not particularly grand, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
on two storeys, as if there's a two-storey house | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
behind this amazing Tuscan portico. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
So, it's a strange effect, there's almost two faces to this building, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
and I think that shows that there's an architecture in transition here. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Well, this building is built in 1810 and designed then | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
and, of course, that makes it earlier than Nebo. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Nebo's clearly kind of learnt from this building and from others, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
but I think what we're seeing here is kind of the blueprint. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
You know, this symmetrical arrangement with two aisles, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
two doors in the front, two doors behind the pulpit - | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
all of that is so similar to Nebo | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
that this feels like the kind of original. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
What strikes me here is that this is a little bit plainer. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Nebo, the joinery is very, very beautiful. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
And it's more about this rake - again, like Nebo - | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
giving people the view that they need of the action. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Kieran's managed to trace how the change in fortunes | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
of the congregation in the 19th century | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
directly influenced architecture. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
All this timber panelling and beautifully lit from sash windows, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
but I think that's the crucial change that we've gone through - | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
from a hidden away, rather rootsy, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
bottom-up type congregational arrangement, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
to one that, you know, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
you could happily bring your family to in their Sunday best. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
We've really uncovered a story here that's vital to Wales, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
and also to history of Christianity in the UK. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
By coming here today, we're uncovering a trajectory | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
that Nebo is a very big part of. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Funded by the Crawshay family | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
and inspired by the architecture of Peniel Chapel, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
Nebo Chapel was rebuilt in the classical style in 1851, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
and Kate has now managed to discover | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
who would have been overseeing the work - | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
the Reverend William Williams. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
I found an article which really underlines how William Williams | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
was the heart of the local area. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
They really loved him. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:54 | |
It says here he won the hearts of the people, he was so popular. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
So, Nebo Chapel, the rebuilt Nebo Chapel, | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
was really the kind of beating heart of the community. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
William Williams was the first Reverend of Alan and Hayley's chapel | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
and evidence shows he also took a major role | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
in improving conditions for the whole community. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
William Williams wanted Hirwaun to be a better place. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
He wants to reform the local community. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
He wants to improve the life of the people, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
particularly the life of the children, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
and what he wanted most of all was a proper school | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
where children could learn and get an education | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
and they could better themselves. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
He's so determined to build the school, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
he had a tea party to raise the money, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
2,000 tickets, one shilling each, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
and finally, the school was opened in 1849. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Now long gone, William Williams' school | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
was situated on the hill opposite Nebo Chapel | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
and he was very clear | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
about how the children who attended should be treated. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
"The children are not to be punished. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
"If naughty, the master must speak to the parents." | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
And this was a time when children were regularly beaten at school, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
but not at the Nebo school. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
Not at the school that William Williams had set up. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
Nebo Chapel was the embodiment of the efforts of William Williams | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
and others to make the life of local people better, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
not just use them for industrial fodder. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
Back at Nebo | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
and Alan and Hayley are continuing work on the pews. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
Although the ones they've removed are perfect for a grand building | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
like Nebo, they're too big for most homes, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
but Alan has had a great idea. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
The plan is just to cut the seat down, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
the backs down, and then stick the two ends on the seat at the back | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
and it's just reduced down to about a metre long. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
That length there we'll use to sell a pew, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
but that length there is a stair tread, so it's... | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
You know, we've made £100 on this piece, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
we've saved on this piece, and it ties in | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
because the wood's all the same, it's part of the history. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
Be able to walk up the flight of stairs saying, | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
"That used to be a pew, that did". | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
This is the second one we're putting together, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
and we're looking to make 20. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
Only another 18 to go. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
Assembling pews might sound like one of the more straightforward jobs | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
in this chapel... | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
Ready... Three, two, one... | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
..but it seems that is not the case. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
-Oh! -Oh! | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
HAYLEY LAUGHS | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
At least we have a laugh, eh? | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
Work in the vestry is progressing well - the walls are up | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
and the studwork is going in. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
I feel really excited to see it all going up, and proud and motivated. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
It feels like it's been a long time coming to get us to this stage, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
and I would like to have been here a lot sooner, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
but won't be too long before we're concealing all this hard work. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
The studwork really does change everything quickly. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
You start to get a sense of the rooms and, you know, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
you've got a ground floor and a first floor. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
And you get... You've got... | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
Now you can see the bathroom area, the en suite, the bedrooms, yeah. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
It does start to come together. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:23 | |
It's a completely different stage. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
When you're digging the trenches, you're hacking plaster off the walls and you're stripping it back, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
it feels like you're going backwards in the project. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
It doesn't feel like you're making any sort of steps forward. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
But when you start building it up and sort of seeing the rooms take shape, it's really exciting | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
because you want to see the next step come, so it's really good. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
Hayley's dad, a builder, is on site today. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
He's making openings in the vestry roof for skylights. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
As the light streams in, their dream feels one step closer. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
-It's amazing. -It's really good. What a difference. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
-Starting to feel like a home now. -You got it? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
The first skylight is about to go in. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
That's it. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
-Hooray! -Hooray! | 0:48:14 | 0:48:15 | |
-We've got a window! -That's good, innit? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
Looks really good, doesn't it? That is brilliant, isn't it? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
That's awesome, that is. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
-Ah, thanks, Dad! -Thank you very much, Frank. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Two more tomorrow! | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
Before we discover whether Alan and Hayley | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
managed to complete their restoration on a shoestring, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
they're going to find out all that we have | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
about Nebo's role in Welsh history. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
This is the Act of Toleration. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
Without a document like this | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
saying Protestant sects could worship as they pleased, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Nebo Chapel would never have been possible. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
What's really important about the 17th century and architecture | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
is the arrival of classical architecture. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
We discovered Peniel Chapel in Tremadog, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
and this is the kind of start of your chapel. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
These distinctive arched windows or that distinctive gable. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
-Very similar, isn't it? -Exactly, yeah. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
The Crawshay family was so vital in creating Nebo | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
because they wanted to foster and improve the lives of the people around them, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
and this is the Reverend William Williams, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
who wanted to create this focus for the community, because it just didn't have it. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
I wasn't aware of it being such a beacon for the local community. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
And it's such a beautiful building, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
and sort of now you've told us the history about it, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
it sort of adds to the passion that, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:33 | |
you know, that we feel about the building | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
and sort of restoring it and putting it back to what it was. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
When Hayley and Alan bought this Welsh chapel in 2011, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
it seemed beyond redemption. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:50 | |
I've come to see if they've done enough work to secure a mortgage, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
in order to complete the restoration. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
-Lovely to see you. -You too. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
They took on a building that was derelict - the roof leaked, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
the timbers were rotten and the vestry was just an empty shell. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
Alan and Hayley had just £20,000 to make the chapel habitable. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
Foundations were dug, walls built, floors constructed. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
What makes this restoration incredible | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
is that they've done almost all the work themselves. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
With money and time being so tight, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
they haven't completed the vestry yet, but it's well on the way | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
to being the family home they've always dreamed of. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
Well, this has improved. This has got a floor. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
-This room's going to be the master bedroom. -Our room. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
-Yeah. -There'll be another staircase sort of winding up | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
to get to the en suite upstairs. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
-Well, it's not a finished room, is it? -No. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Because it's just me and Al doing it, it just takes a long time. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
All the internal studs have been done and the floorboards have gone back in. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
-And all the insulation underneath the floorboards. -Yeah. -Lot of work. -Yeah. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
So, actually, there is a lot of work that's happened | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
since I was last here, but a lot of it's invisible? | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
-Yeah. That's the problem. -Have you done it all yourselves? | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
-Everything. Literally everything. -Yeah, yeah, we've not had any trades on at all yet. -No. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
-This is REALLY different! It's bright, isn't it? -It is, yeah. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:31 | |
Your skylights, oh, they're lovely. And the staircase. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
Hooray, you've got a staircase! That's really exciting. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
I recognise this. These aren't treads, these are pews! | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
-They are. -Brilliant, you've used them. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
-Yeah, we made a staircase, didn't we? -And they look great. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
So, what would that cost you if you were going to go and buy that? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
With it being pitch pine, it was about £700, £800. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
-SHE GASPS -So, this has cost you...? | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
-This staircase cost us about £40. -If that. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
If that, yeah. But we had to. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
We couldn't have afforded to buy a staircase to put in. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
I'm so impressed with that. I think it's utterly brilliant. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
-Hayley, have you run out of money? -Pretty much, yeah. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
Just got to work a bit harder, bring a bit more cash in, and... | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
And as we've been selling the pews as well, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
we've been getting little bits of money from that, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
which sort of all adds up, doesn't it? | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
-We sold about...ten? -Mm. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
-Well done. -Yeah. -Hayley's done really well in selling them. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
When you think that, you know, ten is £1,000. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
-Yeah, yeah, that's great. -That's, you know, a good chunk. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
Up the lovely stairs. It's so exciting. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
You've built yourself a second storey. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
You've got a whole other floor. It's fantastic. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
-This is a good size, isn't it? -This is, yeah. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
-And, this is what, your...? -A guest room. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
-Nice, big guest room. -Yeah. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
So, what's going to be through there? | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
-That's a walk-in wardrobe. -And at the other end... | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
Is the en suite. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:00 | |
You've created a really luxurious home | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
out of what was just a kind of big, empty space. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
Not many people can say, "Oh, we've got... | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
"Our first home was a four double-bed, | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
"three en suites and a family bathroom". | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
And when the chapel's done, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
it's going to be an absolute huge living space in there. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
So, I think we are extremely lucky, but I think it's deserved, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
to a certain extent, for the effort and hard work we've put into it. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
I want to get the opinion of Alan's son. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Hello, Lewis? | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
-Hello! -Hello! | 0:53:32 | 0:53:33 | |
-What you doing in there? -Hiding! | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
What did you think when he first said to you, "Look, Lewis, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
"look at this chapel - I'm going to turn it into a house"? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
I was like, "Oh, you're not going to do that in a year"! | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
-What do you think now? -But somehow he's managed to do it. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
-Quite incredible, isn't he? -Yeah. -You proud of him? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
Even Alan's son thought his dad and Hayley had taken on too much with Nebo, | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
a massive project with huge financial risk. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
You started this project with £20,000. How much money is left? | 0:54:04 | 0:54:10 | |
There's about £200 left in the kitty. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
There is money allocated elsewhere for the plasterboard and stuff, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
but once we're in here, we'll be saving sort of £1,000 a month, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
so we'll be able to use that money to buy the skirtings and the doors | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
and finish off when we're living here. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
Are you proud of what you've achieved here so far? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
We couldn't have physically given any more than what we have | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
sort of physically and emotionally, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
and to sort of come out with where we are, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
with what we had to spend at the start, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
I think you can't be anything but pleased and proud of what you've done. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
-I'm proud of Hayley as well, so yeah. -You should be. -Yeah. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
You should be incredibly proud, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
-because you're an extraordinary couple. -Thank you. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
With only £200 left in the kitty, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Alan and Hayley will have to start saving again to complete the vestry. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
They bought Nebo Chapel for £25,000 | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
and the plan was to do up the vestry and then remortgage it | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
in order to raise the money to pay for the restoration of the chapel. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
We've brought in surveyor Martin Challenger | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
to see if the work they're doing | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
will increase the property's value sufficiently. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
They need it to be worth at least £80,000 | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
in order to finish the whole project. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
Once they've finished the back of the building there | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
can you give a rough idea of what it might be worth once it's finished? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
On completion of all the works to the vestry, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
you'd be looking in the region of £115,000. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
-I'm really pleased, yeah. -That's great! It's really good! | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
Really, really good. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:39 | |
It's almost a reward for the effort that we've put in. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
We're on the right track. It's just getting there, yeah. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
Having bought Nebo for £25,000, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
when the vestry is finished, it'll be worth 115,000, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
so Alan and Hayley will be able to raise funds | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
to save the rest and turn it into a family home, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
which was always their goal. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
When this entire property is finished | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
to your very high standards, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
do you have any idea what it might be worth? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
We thought about around the £200,000 mark, haven't we? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
-There or thereabouts. -Martin, have you got any idea? | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
My proposed valuation with the property complete, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
externally and internally, you'd be looking in the region of £265,000. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
Martin and I are chuffed! I don't know how you're feeling! | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Yeah, well, I feel pretty good too, yeah. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
Oh, that's great. Good news, well done. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Given those sums of money, do you think the chapel was worth saving? | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
I think it was absolutely worth saving. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
I think everything we've put into it, this has just confirmed for us | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
that it was absolutely worth it, and it's great. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
It's an important building to the community | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
and the history of the local area, and to be a part of that | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
and retain it for the future is quite special, really. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
Alan and Hayley fell in love with this Nonconformist chapel, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
but their dream to save it is just as unconventional | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
as the people who created it. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
They bought this place for just £25,000 | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
and had even less to save it. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
But then they're not your typical restoration heroes. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Very few people would risk so much with so little. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
But they did have one thing. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
Faith - in their dream and in each other. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
They've still got a long way to go on this building, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
but it's starting to pay off, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
and not as a cynical development opportunity | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
but as a wonderful family home | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
and, one day, that's exactly what Nebo Chapel will be. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
On the next Restoration Home... | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
we step inside one of the biggest challenges yet. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:04 | |
There are 112 rooms. Read it and weep! | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
A Scottish castle with hidden surprises... | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
Wow! | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
-So, there is a doorway, isn't there? -There is a doorway, yes. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
..and a link to one of the greatest murder mysteries of all time. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
It certainly seems like he's in the thick | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
of what is the biggest whodunnit in Scottish history. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 |