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Hello! Look who it is!

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It's the old judge from Strictly, Len Goodman, and welcome to my decade, the 1950s.

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I'll give it top marks. It's not a seven!

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It's a ten from Len,

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for change, challenge, possibilities and promise.

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Welcome to the 1952 Show. Why 1952?

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Well, whizz back 60 years,

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and young Elizabeth had just become the new Queen.

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And she found the whole country taking their first steps

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into a brighter Britain.

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So every day this week we'll be hearing what you remember

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about some of the most exciting years in our history.

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Here's how the telly lines up today.

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Short trousers, skipping, conkers, catapults and the cane.

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What it was really like to be a nipper in the '50s.

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Was '50s marriage all it was cracked up to be?

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We reveal the secret ways

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disgruntled housewives let off steam.

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And the new towns,

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built to solve the housing crisis in our bombed-out cities.

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The pioneers spill the beans on their early days.

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Fabulous stories, wonderful archive

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and some great guests on our 1950s sofa.

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-And today, it's the fabulous Pam Ayres!

-Hello, Len.

-Hello, Pam.

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-I've got to say, you look great.

-Thank you very much.

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-Yes, I'm in the pink.

-You are in the pink

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and I hope you've got plenty of memories of the '50s?

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I've got lots of vivid memories of my childhood, yes, I have.

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-Well, keep them to yourself and reveal all presently.

-OK!

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So what memories do other people have of their childhood?

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We take a look at a day in the life for four '50s kids.

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MUSIC: "Memories Are Made Of This"

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# Memories are made of this...#

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Every childhood is unique.

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And what we remember gives us a vivid snapshot of times gone by.

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So meet Eastender Barry,

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Pat from Newcastle,

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country boy Tim,

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and Home Counties Julia.

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All different backgrounds, all different memories.

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Let them take us back 60 years to see what childhood in the '50s

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was really like.

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My mum used to come in, I think she was coming home from

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early morning office cleaning, get me out of bed.

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A quick cat's lick as she called it,

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like a wipe round the face with a flannel,

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get the tide marks off from the night before

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and then walk through to school.

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Get up, put on our uniforms, which were all very '50s,

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all wearing shorts and ties and even school caps and blazers.

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I had a little green pleated skirt white socks and sandals,

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sort of T-strap sandals.

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Obviously, a green cardigan to match and green knickers!

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Home breakfast would be porridge, boiled eggs or some sort of cereal.

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Just a slice of bread and butter, dip it in the sugar bowl,

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what we call a sugar butty.

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Not very healthy by today's standards, I know, but things like that.

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And usually my father would drive us to school,

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dropped off at the school gates and the day began.

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And I can remember some of the boys getting

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a ruler across the backs of their legs.

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I suffered that quite a bit.

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Then you had to sign a book, as if it was an honour!

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You had to sign a punishment book.

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Playtime never came quick enough,

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and for those not interested in the ruckus, there was always romance.

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# Young love, first love

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# Filled with true devotion...#

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Girls, who were much the stronger group used to insist

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on playing kiss chase.

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Oh, yes, we did play kiss chase, yes!

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I can remember being the victim of that a couple of times,

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cornered in, it was a bike shed!

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We just felt that that was really naughty and when they found us

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we had to give them a kiss, yes!

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At the end of the school day, obviously, the bell rang.

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We put our chairs on the desk and we had to stand up and sing...

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# Now the day is over night is drawing near. #

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And all the kids went mad, yeah, rushing out the door,

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not orderly fashion.

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Along the street, making plans, for when we were going to meet up after tea.

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Right behind where we used to live there used to be a council estate

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and all the children used to play in the streets there

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but we weren't allowed to mix with them.

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I just played at home with my brother.

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-PAT:

-We played a lot in the street then

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because we didn't have a back garden.

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-BARRY:

-The mischievous ones, there was knock down ginger,

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everyone played that.

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That when you knocked on someone's door and ran away.

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When someone got used to it, if you did it too much,

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they'd be waiting for you behind the door

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and they chase you up the streets. Some of them men was fast runners.

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We to be outside as much as possible.

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I remember having a friend round and we had a competition to see who could jump highest off a haystack.

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We would progressively climb higher and higher until eventually

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someone stuck his teeth through his kneecap and it all came to an end.

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Yes, we called the bomb sites debris.

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Let's go and play on the big debris or the little debris.

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Every debris had a name.

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The water tank debris, because that filled up with water.

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But, as I say, we had a lot of fun on the bomb sites.

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It could be quite dangerous at times but luckily enough,

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most of us survived it all.

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When we were playing,

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we quite often used to play with skipping ropes and hopscotch.

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We even played in cardboard boxes.

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It's a bit of a cliche, but we did.

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Cardboard boxes could be racing cars, fire engines,

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anything the imagination wanted.

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I didn't really spend a lot of time in the bedroom

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because today children don't mind being sent to their bedroom

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because they got everything there, TVs, computers,

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but we spent most of the time in the street rather than our bedrooms.

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# You're full of sugar you're full of spice

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# You're kind of naughty But you're naughty and nice. #

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But after all the fun and games, it was indoors for something to eat.

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As far as I remember for supper, it was all good wholesome stuff.

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Spam and chips!

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Banana sandwiches.

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Egg and chips.

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Meat and two veg.

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Jam and bread and cakes.

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Sausage and mash.

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When we came home from school, because we'd had lunch,

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it was literally bread and jam.

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And this is really funny, if I was really hungry, which I was

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most of the time, I used to go and eat the dog biscuits in the larder.

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They were the little tiny Bonio biscuits.

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We use to have a Labrador called Rufus

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and I used to go and eat the biscuits. Isn't that terrible?

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You'd get fish and chips for about a shilling.

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We used to put the salt and vinegar on,

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and we used to loosen the lid right to the last thread so the next

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person would come in and put the salt on their chips,

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cos the lid would come off and they've got half a pound of salt

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all over their fish and chips!

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That was quite a common occurrence, that was.

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A terrible thing when I think back!

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# Hopalong Cassidy here we come! #

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And if you were lucky enough, you got to sit in front of the gogglebox.

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Television was only a couple of hours a day

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and that was always a must.

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There were the Woodentops, there was Andy Pandy.

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Bill and Ben.

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"Loblob, Little Weed" and the Little Weed used to go, "Weed!"

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Hopalong Cassidy.

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Loads of cowboys, yeah. Loads of cowboys.

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And there was Muffin The Mule. "Here comes Muffin, Muffin the mule."

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And on Saturday nights it was Dixon Of Dock Green.

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And the Billy Cotton Band Show.

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'Wakey wakey!'

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So it was no education at all, it was purely fun.

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And then it was supper time, bath and bed. It was fairly routine.

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Mum always used to say, have you wiped that tide mark off?

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Because we were only bathing once a week and we dodged the flannel.

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It was bath and good stripy winceyette pyjamas

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with a drawstring.

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I think we used to sometimes have a story read to us.

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# Magic moments...#

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I remember my childhood as being a very peaceful, settled,

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safe childhood.

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I don't think at the time I realised how lucky

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we were to have the childhood we had. It certainly was a lovely time.

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Back in the '50s, I think children were, on the whole,

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a lot happier in those days.

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When you're little,

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all you are really interested in is that you feel safe and that

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you are fed and warm and I can remember being all of those things.

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-BARRY:

-Maybe children today do have as much fun, I don't know.

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But I think no one had as much fun as we did in those days.

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Always something to do.

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They were great days, really great days.

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# Filled with love... #

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-What a marvellous little film.

-A gorgeous film.

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I like the salt cellar, brilliant!

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And we have one of its stars, Barry! Let me ask you this, Barry.

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What would be your overall impression

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of growing up as a kid in the '50s?

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Well, I suppose the main thing would be the freedom we had.

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Not like today, there is too much traffic.

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We went out in the mornings and never came back till late at night.

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Our mums didn't have to worry about us.

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We used to play on the Underground.

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We used to bunk into the Underground and go off to Epping

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or anywhere on the Underground.

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Yes, we've all done that. A Red Rover on the buses.

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-I didn't, I didn't go on the Underground.

-Well, there weren't too many of them down in Somerset!

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You could dig a long way but you wouldn't come to the Underground.

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-Now, you were a country girl.

-I was a country girl.

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I grew up in the village of Stafford in the Vale, Len,

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which was then in Berkshire.

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And my memories are very seasonal, really.

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In the winter, when we had snow,

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which we were very excited about, you had to cower out of the way

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because the country boys used to have snowball fights.

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And in the middle of the snowball they would embed a rock,

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so if you got one of those in the temple, it was curtains, really.

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That is my overwhelming wintry sort of memory.

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But in the summer, I can smell the hay because we used to be a pest,

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I am sure, and we'd go all round the hay fields when

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they had been baled and they were the little bales and you could build

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all sorts of fantastic structures, bale houses and dens and that.

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The older kids used to go in for a snog. Absolutely, yes!

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-We never had that, Barry?

-No!

-What, no snogging at Bethnal Green?

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No, we had to do it in the bombed houses.

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-That wasn't so fragrant, Barry.

-They were wonderful, wonderful days.

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I really enjoyed myself. Now, back to those early '50s.

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If you wanted to see the news and you didn't have a television,

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cinema newsreels were the thing.

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I remember happy days at the pictures.

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They put the newsreel between the A and the B movie

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and threw in a cartoon for good measure.

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How about that for about 9p? Value for money!

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All this week we'll be looking at events that made the '50s

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and how you remember the first decade fully captured on film.

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Let's start with the defining moment of 1952 itself.

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The day a princess, who had lost her dad, turned into a queen.

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NEWSREEL: It is with the greatest sorrow that we make the following

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announcement, that the King passed peacefully away in his sleep.

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It made me personally very sad

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because I thought he was a great man.

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He did his share.

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Groups of people from the houses in our road,

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in small circles all talking about it all the way up the road.

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The announcement of the death was a shock.

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It was a feeling 23-year-old Terence Gallagher shared with others

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who had heard the news that February morning.

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But Terence's interest in the story was not simply personal.

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At the time, he was a runner at Movietone,

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Britain's largest newsreel company, and he knew this was

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the biggest story their cameras had covered in years.

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While the coronation was not happen for another year,

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the cameras were there to capture the extraordinary moment

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the new Queen was proclaimed, two days after her father's death.

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'I proclaim that the high and mighty Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary

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'is now, by the death of our late sovereign of happy memory,

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'become Queen Elizabeth II.'

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The scene could have been out of a period movie.

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Everyone's in their regalia. It was most impressive.

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At the Movietone offices, Terence and the team

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were counting down to their biggest challenge,

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filming the funeral of the British monarch.

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Here was a job that had to be done. It had to be done properly.

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It had to be done quickly.

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And people, somehow, welcomed the opportunity to do this work.

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Rather than risk the crowds the next morning,

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Terence stayed at work on the eve of the funeral.

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I spent the night in the Movietone theatre

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using my raincoat as a pillow.

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Got up, it must have been six o'clock, and as I walked,

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masses of people, all over the road, walking down the road,

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silence, except for the shuffle of feet. It was quite eerie.

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My job that day was to ferry the film.

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There weren't enough of us

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so there were people like Boy Scouts were used.

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It was all hands to the pump, as it were.

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As fast as the footage got back,

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the film processors were turning it into newsreel.

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They would then have produced 200 copies.

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The first ones coming off going to the London cinemas,

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and the rest going on the night train all over the country.

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Terence has never seen the remarkable footage

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he helped to capture that day, more than 60 years ago.

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This is the camera position I was in

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as the cortege passes into St James's Street.

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Lots of people with handkerchiefs, including men.

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Because it was a sorrowful sight, the actual funeral.

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Oh, it brought a lump to your throat, as soon as you saw it.

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And pride, in fact.

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The pride that the British can do this sort of thing.

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And I still think it was a terrific job

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and I was proud to be part of it. However small.

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I tell you what, that is interesting.

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Very nice to have an inside view.

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Now, I don't know about you,

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but I don't remember the death of the King.

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-No, I don't.

-But I do remember the Coronation.

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-What are your memories of it?

-They are momentous, Len.

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It was the first time I ever saw the television, because in the pub

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up the road from us, which was called the Cottage of Content,

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they had a TV. And so we sat cross-legged on the carpet

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and watched this little tiny figure of the Queen and heard the music.

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Not only was it the Coronation

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but it was the first time we had ever seen the TV so I remember it.

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-My mum bought a telly.

-Oh, she bought a telly.

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I had never seen a telly.

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-She bought a telly for the Coronation.

-Oh, I say!

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And we had the whole street in there.

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We had the street party and we got the five bob bit, as we called it,

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the ceremonial five shilling piece.

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-We didn't have one of those. I feel deprived.

-But I got rid of mine.

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I swapped it for some fag cards and then I got whacked for that.

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But anyway.

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Now, housing was the biggest issue facing the country after the war.

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Not only was there dreadful overcrowding,

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but we had also had five years of bombing to contend with.

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So, come peacetime and the '50s,

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Britain had to rebuild itself quite literally from the ground up.

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And the solution?

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A mix of prefabs, council flats, council houses, council estates!

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And even, whole new towns!

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To be offered a big four-bedroom house for something like

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five shillings a week was fantastic.

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We were all young architects, recently qualified,

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so everything was new.

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It was a very, very exciting time.

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And the new towns were providing both houses and jobs

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and that was what decided me to go to Stevenage.

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Stevenage in Hertfordshire, Britain's first new town.

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A bold social experiment sold mainly to Londoners,

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whose city had been ravaged by war, plagued with overcrowding

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and often without basic amenities.

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Then, in 1951, the dream of paying an affordable rent for modern,

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spacious houses, all set in beautiful countryside

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came true for some, as Stevenage's first neighbourhood was completed.

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Percy Weston and his wife, May, were two of Stevenage's pioneers.

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I thought, if we want a house,

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we have to go where they are being built.

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And that's when I wrote to the general manager

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and ultimately got an interview.

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And I was offered a job in the engineer's wing.

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And I was going to get a house into the bargain. So, I accepted.

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Percy and May still live in the house they came to in 1951.

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It looked enormous, actually, because we had been living

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with my mum and dad and we'd had really no privacy,

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you know, for newlyweds,

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so that was the big thing that we could be alone together.

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We literally arrived in the middle of a building site.

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As they were finishing their houses one at a time,

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they were letting them out.

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They weren't completing the whole estate to start with.

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And I thought, we have arrived in one of those American

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or Australian outback towns, you know.

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Like Percy, Maureen Wilderspoon's dad had been drawn to Stevenage

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by the promise of work and a fresh start.

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We came from a very working-class family,

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you know, my father was a carpenter and my mother was a seamstress.

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What life could we have had in London,

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because we didn't have the money ever to better ourselves.

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The only way he saw of getting out, we were a family of four,

0:20:210:20:26

was to emigrate to Australia.

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And then this job in Stevenage came up building the new houses

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and all the builders that came to Stevenage were promised a house.

0:20:330:20:36

So they talked about it

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and they decided that Stevenage was a little bit closer than Australia!

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So they went for Stevenage.

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Like many Londoners, Maureen's family had been attracted to the new towns

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by the Government PR campaign which, over the years, did the hard sell.

0:20:510:20:57

'Apart from the improved design of commonplace sights like bus shelters,

0:20:570:21:00

'notice the refreshing absence of traffic congestion.'

0:21:000:21:04

It succeeded, with thousands of families attracted by the idea of a bright new future.

0:21:040:21:10

Each new town had a master plan for shops, schools, churches,

0:21:100:21:13

even theatres to entertain the new residents.

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On the drawing board, whole communities were planned,

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spanning all classes and all ages.

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But coming from a cramped two-bed in Tottenham,

0:21:220:21:25

for most ordinary people like Maureen,

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the biggest boon was space.

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As we walked in to this rather large council house,

0:21:300:21:35

my brother was heard to say, "Who's living upstairs?"

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Because we had always shared a house and here we were with four bedrooms,

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a lounge, dining room, kitchen, garden, everything.

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It was just so big, for a six-year-old.

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Not much furniture in it, so it looked big.

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Houses like this would be made affordable

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at roughly under £2 a week rent to the local authority.

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But there were teething problems.

0:22:030:22:05

Roads and pavements were unfinished, and that's not all.

0:22:050:22:09

I'd never had a pair of Wellington boots in my life.

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I didn't know what Wellington boots were.

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And the first thing we did was buy wellingtons.

0:22:140:22:17

We would go out and we would play on building sites.

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And you'd come home, covered in brick dust, scraped fingers, mud.

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But everything took a long time.

0:22:250:22:27

If you went shopping, it took a long time because you had to walk there.

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You had to shop and then you had to walk back.

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We didn't have a car in those days.

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Transport was not the only problem there.

0:22:370:22:39

Plans for 60,000 new residents meant tensions were running high with the locals.

0:22:390:22:44

We found a certain hostility in the old town about the newcomers.

0:22:460:22:53

They were "Those folk from London. You know what they're like!" That sort of attitude.

0:22:530:22:59

Simon Bennett, one of Stevenage's architects, remembers the threats.

0:22:590:23:04

Certain people were active.

0:23:040:23:06

They said, I'm going to lie down in front of the diggers to stop

0:23:060:23:11

the new towns being built. But in point of fact,

0:23:110:23:15

they all realised that it was a great success.

0:23:150:23:17

But for some, the utopian dream did not last long.

0:23:190:23:22

Many Londoners missed their friends and family,

0:23:220:23:25

the hustle and bustle of the city.

0:23:250:23:27

The new town blues set in and quite a few drifted back to London.

0:23:270:23:31

London seemed an awful long way away.

0:23:310:23:34

It's 20 minutes on the train now, it was an hour and a half in those days on a steam train.

0:23:340:23:39

I suppose for some people, who had always lived in London, old people,

0:23:400:23:44

it was too big a change.

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For us, it was an exciting adventure.

0:23:460:23:49

So, for those who stayed, was it all worthwhile?

0:23:490:23:52

On the whole, I think it has been a success.

0:23:520:23:55

Architects from all around the world have been to visit

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to see what an example it was in the early days.

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And I think most of the people here now have not regretted it.

0:24:030:24:08

I was very happy to come to Stevenage. I had a great life here.

0:24:080:24:13

I have no regrets.

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How fantastic it must have been to come out of those overcrowded tenement buildings,

0:24:180:24:24

with people upstairs and down,

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-and then suddenly you are in your own home.

-Yes.

0:24:260:24:30

-The idea that it could be all yours.

-Yes.

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What about you, how was domesticity in your house?

0:24:330:24:38

Well, in the house where I was born, it was a bit basic.

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We had two tin baths on the wall outside, a long one and a short one.

0:24:410:24:46

My sister and I would be done first. So you'd be in the bath of cooling water

0:24:460:24:50

and you'd make yourself small at one end

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and then Mum would pour in a kettle of boiling water at the back

0:24:520:24:55

-and you frantically splash it...

-Push it along.

-..so it didn't burn your bottom.

0:24:550:25:00

And as every person got out, the silt was diluted

0:25:000:25:03

by the addition of another kettle of boiling water.

0:25:030:25:07

For me, it was slightly different.

0:25:070:25:09

-My nan and grandad had a greengrocers.

-Oh, right.

0:25:090:25:11

My nan's job was to boil up the beetroots.

0:25:110:25:16

There was this big beetroot boiler which

0:25:160:25:19

they put this gas ring underneath.

0:25:190:25:21

And as it got tepid,

0:25:210:25:23

my nan used to put me in it.

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And I'd have a jolly good scrub over by my nan and all this.

0:25:250:25:28

-I probably would have a pee in it.

-In the beetroot boiler?

0:25:280:25:33

And then out I'd come, and then in would go the beetroot.

0:25:330:25:38

Oh no! I shall never eat another beetroot.

0:25:380:25:41

-People used to queue up for them. They were delicious.

-Well,

0:25:410:25:46

-they had that added extra ingredient.

-Yeah. But you know what I loved about Stevenage,

0:25:460:25:51

is those people have never regretted the move

0:25:510:25:54

and they are just so happy that they did it and they are there.

0:25:540:26:00

-Yeah.

-So, getting a house got easier, making it a home was the next task.

0:26:000:26:05

And along came the national obsession called do-it-yourself.

0:26:050:26:09

The '50s was the year the Black & Decker and Dulux emulsion.

0:26:090:26:15

Proud new householders couldn't get enough of putty, paint and pelmets

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to help turn their homes and into the proverbial castle.

0:26:190:26:24

# This old house once knew its children

0:26:240:26:26

# This old house once knew its wife... #

0:26:260:26:30

Ah, DIY. That great Saturday afternoon activity.

0:26:300:26:34

Responsible for more domestic rows than who does the washing up.

0:26:340:26:38

And where can we lay the blame? The '50s.

0:26:380:26:41

That's when DIY became a boom home hobby.

0:26:410:26:44

It even had its own TV show, the DIY SOS of the '50s, with Barry Bucknell.

0:26:440:26:51

And then square this across with a pencil, on both sides, there and there.

0:26:510:26:58

With a bit more cash to spend and loads of new homes just asking to be given the personal touch,

0:26:580:27:05

we became a nation of Barry Bucknells.

0:27:050:27:07

And one of the best was Terence Dickens.

0:27:070:27:11

Terence has DIY in his DNA.

0:27:110:27:15

His family have been running DIY stores for four generations

0:27:150:27:19

and during the '50s, they opened a third shop in Stockton, Lancashire.

0:27:190:27:24

The first day, we only had about one customer.

0:27:240:27:28

And then word got around and then the customers started to come

0:27:280:27:32

and there was, honestly, no stopping them.

0:27:320:27:34

# Ain't gonna need this house no longer... #

0:27:340:27:37

We used to do paint...

0:27:370:27:39

# Ain't got time to fix the shingles... #

0:27:390:27:41

..Curtain rails. We did miles, and I mean miles.

0:27:410:27:45

We were one of the biggest sellers of curtain rails in the country.

0:27:450:27:48

High employment in the '50s,

0:27:490:27:51

coupled with the possibility of paying on the never-never

0:27:510:27:54

put some extra cash in the back pocket of the ordinary man,

0:27:540:27:58

which benefited Dickens DIY.

0:27:580:28:01

The ordinary person would walk in, and say, I'm doing a job,

0:28:010:28:06

I'd like to do a job, and I want to do so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so.

0:28:060:28:11

So we would offer them the tools that they could use to do that job.

0:28:110:28:17

And usually, they would get them, or get them on credit.

0:28:170:28:22

And they'd pay two shillings a week - 10p - and they would build up...

0:28:220:28:27

That is the way it all started off.

0:28:270:28:30

In the post-war years,

0:28:300:28:32

ingrained deep in people's psyche was the message to get on with things and do it yourself.

0:28:320:28:37

So people did. Or at least, they tried to.

0:28:370:28:40

A lot of them had no idea but with a little bit of help from such as us,

0:28:400:28:45

we could show them where they were going wrong.

0:28:450:28:49

And by showing them where they were going wrong, they came back, and back, and back.

0:28:490:28:53

And in the end, they would do all the house up.

0:28:530:28:57

Suddenly, a wealth of new DIY products were flooding the shelves

0:28:570:29:01

ready for the eager home improver to snap up.

0:29:010:29:04

'Quicker and better with Black & Decker.'

0:29:040:29:08

I can remember when Black & Decker drills came in and they were quite basic.

0:29:080:29:13

And that would be in about 1955, 1956, around there.

0:29:130:29:19

And they were five pounds nine shillings and sixpence. I remember that.

0:29:190:29:23

'Take the Black & Decker,

0:29:230:29:25

'add one of the many attachments and put power into your hands.'

0:29:250:29:30

People, when they got one of those,

0:29:300:29:32

they were like somebody with a new toy.

0:29:320:29:34

Amateur craftsmen of all ages flock to Olympia

0:29:360:29:39

for the do-it-yourself exhibition in search of ideas.

0:29:390:29:42

And by 1956, annual DIY exhibitions were held at Olympia in London

0:29:420:29:47

designed to inspire people for even more ambitious DIY projects.

0:29:470:29:52

-Pardon me, sir, do you do much for yourself?

-Well, a fair amount.

0:29:520:29:56

I see, what kind of things do you build?

0:29:560:29:58

Well, I have done some cabinets,

0:29:580:30:01

I've put a new sink unit in.

0:30:010:30:04

So was Terence pleased with the part he played in the DIY boom of the 1950s?

0:30:040:30:09

I'd say it was the era that we created.

0:30:090:30:14

We weren't the only ones in the country, but we made an episode of it.

0:30:140:30:22

So people could come in, ask questions, get an answer,

0:30:220:30:27

and go home and do it all.

0:30:270:30:28

Goodbye now.

0:30:300:30:32

What about you or your family, any good at do-it-yourself?

0:30:320:30:37

The only time Father did any what you might call DIY

0:30:370:30:40

was when he decorated the lavatory, which he did with a bucket of green distemper and a stirrup pump.

0:30:400:30:45

-You know one of these jobs?

-Oh, yeah. And it squirted out.

-Yeah.

0:30:450:30:49

It just squirted it out and after it dried, there were all these dribbles,

0:30:490:30:54

Len, all down the walls in this horrible nauseous shade of green.

0:30:540:30:58

Well, the only time I really had a go at any DIY was when my son was being born.

0:30:580:31:06

We decided to turn one of the bedrooms into his nursery.

0:31:060:31:10

And my wife said, "Don't paint it, you'll mess it up." I said, "I won't miss it up."

0:31:100:31:14

So I was sort of on a challenge.

0:31:140:31:16

So I got clear plastic paper

0:31:160:31:18

and covered every conceivable thing that could possibly get splashed.

0:31:180:31:23

And we had these louvred door wardrobes, which my wife kept all her clothes in.

0:31:230:31:29

And I thought, they are all right, they're behind those louvres. I went in in my underpants and socks...

0:31:290:31:35

-This is quite an erotic image.

-It is! In I walked.

0:31:350:31:39

-I slipped over.

-Oh, no!

0:31:390:31:40

The paint flew over my head, went into these louvred wardrobes,

0:31:400:31:45

covered all her clothes in Dulux.

0:31:450:31:48

And that is the one and only time I've ever tried to do do-it-yourself.

0:31:480:31:54

I thought, that's it. Never again.

0:31:540:31:56

-No... Well, you've got other strengths!

-Yes.

0:31:560:31:59

But putting up shelves and stuff is not one of them.

0:31:590:32:03

-No.

-And I'm glad, in a way. Now, call me nosey,

0:32:030:32:06

but I always want to know what makes couples tick,

0:32:060:32:10

especially 60 years ago, when we were all a bit reserved

0:32:100:32:14

and didn't talk so much about... stuff.

0:32:140:32:17

Today, we write blogs about the most intimate things,

0:32:170:32:21

but back then, couples were told, "You've made your bed, now lie on it."

0:32:210:32:25

But was marriage in the '50s really that simple?

0:32:250:32:29

# When I fall in love... #

0:32:310:32:34

The '50s weren't all that long ago.

0:32:340:32:37

# ..It will be forever... #

0:32:370:32:41

She had to do as she was told.

0:32:410:32:44

But it was an age of innocence in the relationship between men and women.

0:32:440:32:48

He said, "Aren't you happy?" and I said, "Well, no, not very."

0:32:480:32:51

But he couldn't understand it. He was baffled.

0:32:510:32:54

Jean and Dennis, and Joan, now widowed,

0:32:560:32:59

were all young marrieds in the '50s.

0:32:590:33:01

Dennis and Jean came from just outside Bristol.

0:33:040:33:06

Dennis was a postman, Jean a shop girl.

0:33:060:33:10

They had been courting for three years.

0:33:100:33:12

Sex was taboo. You didn't talk about it.

0:33:120:33:15

Nobody said anything about it.

0:33:150:33:18

The first thing I learnt about sex was when I was in the Army.

0:33:200:33:25

"Just you be careful, my girl, and you behave yourself!

0:33:290:33:32

"Don't you dare bring anything home to this door

0:33:320:33:35

"because I don't want to know it!" That was my sex education.

0:33:350:33:39

# Do you remember

0:33:390:33:43

# The first time that we kissed? #

0:33:430:33:47

Joan came from a different background. She'd studied at Oxford,

0:33:470:33:50

but the same moral attitudes cut across all classes.

0:33:500:33:54

Oh, heavens above!

0:33:540:33:57

SHE LAUGHS

0:33:570:33:59

Absolute virginity! So, of course, you went into marriage

0:33:590:34:03

totally inexperienced, both of you.

0:34:030:34:05

There's this virgin man, this virgin woman, jumping into bed...

0:34:050:34:08

Well, not even jumping. Falling into bed together and making a mess of it.

0:34:080:34:12

But a '50s marriage had other unwritten rules, which were hard to break.

0:34:150:34:21

Women had to stop in those days to see to their man.

0:34:210:34:24

If I was washing, I'd have to stop.

0:34:240:34:28

You didn't do that when they came in.

0:34:280:34:30

I mean, that stopped.

0:34:300:34:31

And you made them a cup of tea and a sandwich and you were nice and everything.

0:34:310:34:37

I think their role was to earn the money

0:34:370:34:40

that produced food on the table.

0:34:400:34:42

They didn't really expect to do very much in the home. The job came first, always.

0:34:420:34:46

In every way, I was the number two wife, I think. The work was the number one wife.

0:34:460:34:52

-DENNIS:

-They came home, they sat down.

0:34:540:34:56

They expected their tea on the table in front of them.

0:34:560:34:59

They read the paper and that was it. They didn't do anything else.

0:34:590:35:03

The meals were on the table on time.

0:35:050:35:08

-The children were always...

-Clean and tidy.

-..clean and tidy.

0:35:080:35:12

The house was always clean and tidy. You had everything ready for him when he came home from work,

0:35:120:35:18

and when he got up in the morning, you were there to see to everything. That was the perfect housewife.

0:35:180:35:22

I remember him trying to put a nappy on one of the babies

0:35:220:35:25

and he'd got the nappy on and it was all over the place

0:35:250:35:28

and totally useless. He hadn't got any clue at all.

0:35:280:35:32

He did try, I suppose, but he just hadn't got the skills that way.

0:35:320:35:35

I was pleased about the birth of my children because I did enjoy all my children very much.

0:35:370:35:43

And my job was to run the children, really. But we were living in the middle of nowhere

0:35:430:35:47

and I missed adult conversation.

0:35:470:35:49

I suppose, emotionally, he wasn't very great.

0:35:490:35:53

I knew that for the children it was important that we stayed together,

0:35:530:35:57

so I thought, "Well, I suppose that's how it's got to be."

0:35:570:36:00

But again, I'm very much aware of how typical that was for women of my generation.

0:36:000:36:04

Married women then still felt they were essentially their husbands' property.

0:36:070:36:12

Jean encountered her husband's claim on her when popping out to a Women's Institute gathering.

0:36:120:36:18

I said, "Oh, can I go?"

0:36:180:36:21

"Please yourself."

0:36:210:36:23

And he used the attitude.

0:36:230:36:26

It was just jealously. He didn't want me to go.

0:36:260:36:28

So I said, "I won't go, then."

0:36:280:36:30

"Hmph!" he went, like this.

0:36:300:36:33

I thought, "Yes, I will go." So I put my coat on and went.

0:36:330:36:38

Two days he didn't speak to me, because of that, for going out.

0:36:380:36:42

But that was the attitude all the time.

0:36:420:36:44

If you wanted to go out, you asked permission to go out.

0:36:440:36:47

But that was the normal thing.

0:36:470:36:49

To stop feeling so hemmed in,

0:36:490:36:52

Jean found more practical ways to get out of the house.

0:36:520:36:55

The local farmer up the road used to grow potatoes.

0:36:550:37:00

He had fields and fields of potatoes.

0:37:000:37:02

When it was picking-potato-time, they'd ask for all the local women to go.

0:37:020:37:06

We'd all take the children, all get onto the back of the lorry,

0:37:060:37:09

and off we'd go to pick potatoes all day.

0:37:090:37:11

Yeah, it was lovely. We used to thoroughly enjoy that.

0:37:110:37:14

That was great. £1 a day.

0:37:140:37:17

-You didn't really like it, did you?

-I didn't really like it, but it was a necessity.

0:37:170:37:23

For housebound Joan there was a more radical, almost subversive answer.

0:37:230:37:28

-Here we are, Joan. Here are your letters from the Correspondence Club.

-Thank you very much.

0:37:280:37:32

She signed up to contribute to an extraordinary secret magazine

0:37:320:37:35

called the Co-operative Correspondence Club.

0:37:350:37:39

Now held at the Mass Observation Archive,

0:37:390:37:42

the club's letters were written by disgruntled housewives like Joan,

0:37:420:37:46

letting off steam about their lot.

0:37:460:37:48

Compiled by an editor into a hand-stitched book,

0:37:480:37:52

each new edition was circulated among members twice a month.

0:37:520:37:55

"Remaining at home with the children day after day,

0:37:550:37:59

"seeing very few people,

0:37:590:38:01

"I gradually lost my self-confidence and felt it ebbing

0:38:010:38:04

"and a devastating shyness descending

0:38:040:38:07

"until it would have been an effort to speak to a stray cat."

0:38:070:38:10

So this was salvation when this came.

0:38:100:38:13

You could actually write down what you were feeling!

0:38:130:38:15

And it was so sacred. Nobody was ever allowed to look at it.

0:38:150:38:19

So husbands couldn't possibly get anywhere near it.

0:38:190:38:22

You kept it hidden in a drawer until you posted it on the next day.

0:38:220:38:26

You had to be a mother to join.

0:38:260:38:28

But once you were in, you could write about anything on your mind -

0:38:280:38:32

the equivalent of a modern-day blog.

0:38:320:38:35

" 'Mummy, where's my so and so?

0:38:350:38:37

" 'Mummy, Alfie's doing that so I can't get on and dress properly.

0:38:370:38:40

" 'Mummy, he's locked the door and I can't get in to clean my teeth.

0:38:400:38:45

"Lucky, lucky Daddy, who dresses placidly and half-asleep,

0:38:450:38:49

"unconscious of the turmoil around him,

0:38:490:38:51

"and unmolested by the throng."

0:38:510:38:54

It was companionship of a sort, I think.

0:38:540:38:57

The sort of thing that, if you'd known anybody locally,

0:38:570:38:59

you'd have gossiped around a cup of coffee with.

0:38:590:39:02

Reading this after so many years is a strange experience,

0:39:020:39:06

a mixture of sadness and surprise, in a way,

0:39:060:39:09

because fortunately, with the passage of time,

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one tends to forget a little bit how acute some of these feelings were.

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The Co-operative Correspondence Club was Joan's release,

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but did marriage for women get better as the decade wore on?

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In those days, if one got married, one stayed married, and that was it.

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Your fate was assured.

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The '60s, you see, were the time when people started saying, "Hey, nonny, nonny," you know.

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The '50s was still fairly stick-in-the-mud, I think.

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For Jean, though, as the children came along,

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and with her contribution to the family purse increased with a regular job,

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Dennis's attitude started to change.

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I helped bathe them, I helped wash them and clean them,

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I put them to bed and, em...

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I mean, they were there. It had to be done.

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We got closer. It kept us together, more or less.

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And here we are together 65 years later!

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-It's lovely to meet you, Jean, I've got to say.

-Thank you.

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But 61 years of marriage, so did you find that when you first got married

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there were conflicts and things, I suppose?

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Yes. Sometimes it was hard trying to find out things you didn't know

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-and you didn't have anybody to ask.

-Yeah.

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My dad was hopeless, Len. This will illustrate how hopeless my dad was.

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My brother chucked me in the river once. He didn't mean to.

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He said, "I'm going to chuck you in, Pam." And he got hold of me and he went, "Ah-one, ah-two,"

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and on "three" we fell and he lost his footing.

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My brother took me home and Mum had gone out on the bus.

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And my dad, he had not a clue what to do,

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so he gave my brother a good hiding

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and then he stood me in the washing-up bowl, to wash the river water off me,

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and at three o'clock in the afternoon, although I was perfectly all right,

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he put me to bed with a jam tart! THEY LAUGH

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When Mum came home, she got me up and said, "What are you doing there, lying about in bed? Get up

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"and don't be so stupid and go near the river in the future."

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I think it was a very commendable thing. A bit of comfort food!

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-Yeah.

-So, Jean, how many children did you wind up with?

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-Five.

-Five?

-I had four in the '50s and then I had a boy in the '60s.

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-Four girls.

-And grandchildren?

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I've got 12 grandchildren and 14 great grandchildren.

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-Wow!

-How lovely!

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-And 61 years so it all worked out in the end.

-Very impressive.

-It's been well worth it, yes.

-Well done.

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Well, after all those lovely stories and chats with our guests,

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it's time to go home. But come sit on my sofa again tomorrow.

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We're going to do '50s television stars, '50s teddy boys.

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You name it, we've got it.

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I always like a bit of jive!

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So until then, see you later, alligator, from me,

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Pam Ayres, the lovely Jean, and The 1952 Show.

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Go on! See you later!

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