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Hi. Len Goodman here for another '50s foxtrot around my decade. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:06 | |
They say of the '60s that if you remember them, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
you weren't really there. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
But it was the optimism of the '50s that gave us | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
that psychedelic decade. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
So what's on offer today? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
We were told we'd never had it so good | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
and our car industry was booming. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
We got around in mass produced cars, Morrises, Austins and Rovers. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
We see how the 1950s folk enjoyed their time off. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
And it's doors to manual and crosscheck with the '50s jet set. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
Don't forget, all this really kicked off in 1952 | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
with the dawn of the new Elizabethan era. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
And I don't believe it! Annette Crosbie is here to tell us | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
it was just so. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
-It's lovely to see you. -Thank you. -Fancy a foxtrot? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
No, calm down! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Now, I can remember going hop picking in Kent | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
with the family as a leper. We had a ball. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
It was one way of enjoying yourself that didn't cost you a penny. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
In fact, they paid you. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
And the idea of the weekend was a whole new kettle of fish. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
# Crazy, man, crazy | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
# Crazy, man, crazy... # | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
In '50s Britain, a woman's work was never done, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
from making dinner to cleaning house and looking after the children, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
the chores didn't stop for the weekend. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
So if anyone was profiting from our increased leisure time, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
it was '50s men. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
The most popular pastimes reflected the gender divide, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
fishing, football and racing. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Racing dogs, racing bicycles, cars, horses, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
in fact any kind of racing. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
It was a man's world all right. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
I won my first race at 16 at a club called Castle Ray. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Often associated with flat caps and hobnail boots, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
pigeon racing was a popular hobby among working-class men, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
as pigeon fancier Ronnie Johnston remembers. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Belfast at the time just exploded with pigeon racing into the '50s. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
The majority of fanciers were Belfast people who maybe worked | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
in the shipyard, worked in the linen mills, the roadworks | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
and this was a way that they could have a hobby which | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
took them through the week and then they had the racing on the Saturday. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Having been brought out to the country by train, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
the pigeons would be released to find their own way home. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Owners like Ronnie waited anxiously in their backyard | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
for the first pigeons to head back. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
You just don't know when they're going to arrive. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
The adrenaline starts flowing as you start your watch | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and you know the times, actually coming up | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and one does come round and I can tell you it's an experience. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Only a pigeon man can tell you. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
And then, if you win the race, you can guess what it's like. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
It's like winning the lottery now, probably. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
# Oh, he's football crazy | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
# He's football mad | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
# And the football it has robbed him Of the wee bit of sense he had. # | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
But pigeons weren't the only pursuit '50s man could enjoy. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Then, as now, one of the most popular sports was football. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Arthur Price was a devoted Liverpool fan. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
It wasn't a rich man's sport. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
When I first went to watch Liverpool, I paid nine pence. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Going in the turnstile, you paid your money or you'd have a ticket, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
it was a ticketed match, and then you had to walk up about 50 steps | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
to get into the Kop area, where we all stood in the Kop area. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
You couldn't move sometimes. You couldn't move. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
When you had 27,000 fellas standing there, they were just fanatics | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
and they used to sing and some of the jokes used to come out with, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
I couldn't even repeat them. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
The rivalry between fans was mainly friendly back then. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
The street I lived in were all football mad, you know. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
They were Evertonians and Liverpudlians | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and we used to go and play football. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
A football match lasted an hour and a half. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
We'd be playing football for about four hours. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
I used to hate it when it wasn't football season. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
A man who would gladly have given new odds on football | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
or pigeons was George Carrigill. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
We used to say give it a name, we'll give it a price. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Welcome to the illicit world of '50s betting. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
Whatever I was earning as a journalist | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I was losing the bookmakers. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
And then I decided when I was 21 to have a go at being a bookmaker. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
All George had to do now was to find premises for his shop. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
All of the betting offices in those days were on the first | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
or second floor, they weren't on the high street. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
They were down little backstreets | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and people furtively used to sneak into them and not be seen. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
He found the perfect place above a rather genteel hair salon. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Hair clientele were ladies, elderly ladies who came | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
in chauffeur driven cars, Bentleys and so on, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
and they were there for wigs. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
These poor old dears, losing their hair or they'd lost their hair | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and my customers had to go through her salon | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
and of course the old dears were absolutely terrified. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
In the 1950s, three quarters of us regularly had a flutter, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
mainly on the GGs. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Not big bets because there wasn't a lot of money in those days. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
It was almost exclusively horseracing. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
If there was no horseracing, you wouldn't open the office at all. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
It was a way of life. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
George was doing a roaring trade but cash betting in the '50s | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
was illegal and there was always the chance he'd be raided by the police. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
They stormed up the stairs, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
there would probably be 30 people or so in the office, smoke-filled. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
They were terribly smoke-filled places in those days. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Two people opened a window and shinned down a pipe. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
The butchers across the road phoned the Fire Brigade, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
they thought the place was on fire, smoke was bursting out. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
And it was utter confusion. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
I was fined £5 and each of the punters, the customers, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
were bound over in the sum of four shillings. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
Everyone knew it was illegal | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
but no-one was bothered in the slightest. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
George isn't a betting man himself. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
He runs the shop more as a hobby than hard work. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
It's not just the winning and losing, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
it's everything which is happening in horseracing, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
the personalities, it's colourful, it's vibrant. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
And you get hooked on it. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Now, I remember going hop picking but that was very localised to Kent. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Yes, it was. We don't have them. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
-No, you didn't have many hops where you came from. -No. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
But we used to get on the old charabanc, go down to Southend | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
or Margate, or if it was a posh one, we'd go to Broadstairs. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Were your swimming costumes woollen? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
My Nan used to knit my... Every Christmas I got a jumper | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
and in the summer, for my birthday, 25th April, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
she'd knit me a swimming costume. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, dreadful. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
And of course they were all right, they looked quite glamorous | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
-until you got wet. -Until you got in the water. -Then they'd swell up. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
And there would be this huge thing dangling down here. Awful. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Now what about you? What's your earliest holiday memory? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
My dad should have been a mechanic or a carpenter but he wasn't, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
he was a postman for a bit and then he was an insurance agent. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
During the war, he used to get bronchitis so he wasn't called up | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
and he built his own caravan and that's what we had our holidays in. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
The top half folded down over the bottom half. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
It was built of balsawood so it was very light | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
so it could be pulled by a Hillman Minx. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-Do you remember those? -Yeah, the tiny Hillman Minx. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
We'd drive all the way down to Keswick. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
And he'd drive it into the caravan place which was just a field. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
And there would be other caravans there. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
And he'd wind the top up with a starting handle | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
while a little crowd gathered and it was called Jock's Lodge | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
and that's what we had our holidays in. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-What about if it got a bit windy? Was it quite stable? -Oh, yes, it was, yeah. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
-What a marvellous man your dad must have been. -Yeah, he was. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-Built his own caravan? -Yeah. -My nan had a caravan in Clacton. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
-It was a permanent structure. -Right. How many did it sleep? -Four. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
Yeah, four. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
-But every Sunday we used to have to go down there to air it out. -Oh! | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
It had to be aired. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
So... and it was quite a novelty for the first two weeks | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
or two months but then, every Sunday, winter and summer, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
we used to go down to Clacton to air out the caravan. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Well, there you have it. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Your holidays in your cardboard caravan | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
and me down at my nan's, Clacton. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-It's lovely to reminisce. It's lovely to see you. -Thank you. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
I can't believe how funny it is that our connection is going to be caravans. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
And whenever I think of you, I'm going to think of your dad | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
and the balsawood caravan. Fabulous! | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Now, class ran through the whole of the '50s like Brighton does rock. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
There was a lot of us and them. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
I was definitely us, so let's take a look at them, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
a curious band of young and upper-class, privileged girls, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
the debutantes, the debs. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Did you know they were the top toff totty of the day? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
'To Buckingham Palace yesterday afternoon were invited | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
'over 1,000 guests for the season's first presentation party. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
'And each debutante was waiting for the moment when she was to make her two curtsies.' | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
You go like that and then you go keeping very straight, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
very formal. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
And I think probably dropped my head, I can't quite remember, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
perhaps we did in case we caught her eye. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Up until 1958, curtsying to the Queen and even to a ceremonial cake | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
was the thing to do for upper-class 'gals'. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
At the age of 17, Mary, the only child of a military family, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
officially came out. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
'The honour being presented make this an especially memorable occasion.' | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
And embarked on what was known as the season, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
a ritual which went back to the 1700s. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
And even in those days, a debutante's season had to commence | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
with being presented to the monarchy. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
You could only be presented to the Queen if your mother had been | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
presented herself or knew somebody who had been. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
And we all lined up and we had to queue in and out. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
And then off we trotted and did our curtsy to both the Queen | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and the Duke of Edinburgh so there were two curtsies involved. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
But it was happy, it was exciting. But it was fun. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
And the fun continued for the next six months. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
A dizzy round of parties, pretty dresses, dinners and dancing. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
If you were lucky enough, you had a dance given for you by your parents | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
and they were astonishing. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
We were so spoiled. You know, the food was absolutely delicious. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
And poor, old fathers having to write cheques for drinks | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
and God knows...and bands. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Tommy Kinsman. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
And the point of all this privileged preening and primping? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
To bag a rich husband, if possible. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
My father didn't have a great deal of money, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
but he had enough to do this, sort of, launch me into the world. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
And, actually, it worked. So, it was a sort of investment, I suppose. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
But was it all as glamorous as it appeared to be? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
The dances were lovely, but alarming, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
because if you weren't absolutely sure | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
that you were going to be asked to dance, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
you could have quite a difficult time of it | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
because you couldn't ask them to dance with you. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
I had a programme I had to fill in. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
People would say, can I have the third one, or whatever it was, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
and you wrote it down with a little pencil attached in little book, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
like the, sort of, 18th century. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And hoped it would be full. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
The highlight of the season was the Queen Charlotte's Ball. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
It was based on Queen Charlotte, George III's wife, her birthday. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:30 | |
And we had to come down a long staircase, all of us, altogether. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
The cake, I think, was at the bottom of the staircase. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
And we had to curtsy to it. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
And then, somebody rather grand, a duchess or somebody, cut it. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
And then, I imagine, we were all given a bit of it to eat | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and then, we danced the night away. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
And all the young men wore white tie, actually, for that. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
I mean, dinner jackets, they could just wear to dances, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
but white tie was still what you had to wear to proper, grand dances. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
And who were these white-tied followers of fashion? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
Meet the deb's delights. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
They were mainly brothers, friends of brothers. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
They all had to be slightly checked. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Not safe in taxis was one of the things | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
that mothers used to talk about. Not safe in a taxi. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
If you got into a taxi and he leapt on you, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
that was considered a bad idea. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
But let's face it, in truth, it was a highly competitive cattle market. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
I mean, there were some very pretty girls | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
and some extremely rich girls and some very glamorous girls. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
It was competitive, like it just is anywhere, isn't it? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
When there are, you know, you're jostling for a chap | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
or whatever it is. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
But Mary was the last of a dying breed. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
The Queen called a halt to court presentations | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
and 1958 saw the end of the official debutante season. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
When the Queen decided, probably quite rightly, to stop it, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
it did seem to lose its point, really. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
I mean, the point was that you had lots of parties | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
and met lots of people and got married. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
And lived happily ever after. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Well, Annette, that is a blast from the past, truly. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-What did you make of that? -Well, it was extraordinary and really... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
archaic. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Well, it is archaic. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
And we'd just been through a war, it's absurd, the whole business. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
Yeah, well, I guess that's why, gradually, it petered out. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
But, you know, did you find, up in Scotland, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-it invaded your sort of world or...? -No, no. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Because everybody in Scotland who wanted to be there | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
went down to London. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
-That kind of thing did not go on in Scotland. We were far too busy. -Yeah. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
There was an old dance teacher called Josephine Bradley. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
-Oh, I read about her in the newspapers. -Really? -Yes. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Well, she was, I don't know if she was the official one, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
but she used to teach lots of the debs how to dance and how to curtsy. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:07 | |
-Curtsy, that's it. -They'd come to her dance studio | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
and there they'd be, and, of course, the deeper you could go, the better. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
But, of course, the deeper you went, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-the more fraught with danger it became. -Getting up. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Yeah, you had to get up again. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
The bottom line is, I think, we're both glad that that era, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-as far as the debs is concerned, is over. -Yeah. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-I'm glad I missed out on that. -Yeah. I'm glad I did. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Although, I do look good in a white tie and tails. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
-Oh, I think, probably, we had a good time. -Yeah. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
So much of our free time was accompanied | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
by this unmistakable noise. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
ENGINE STARTS | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
Yeah. We started going places by car. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
My mate's car was a Wolseley Hornet and I can't tell you, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
the things we got up to in that car. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
The Wolseley Hornet was built by the British Motor Corporation | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
and they were in their heyday. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
We were world-beaters in the '50s. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
So, for old times' sake, let's burn some more rubber | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and give it some welly. Go on. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
MUSIC: "Move It" by Cliff Richard | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
# Come on, pretty baby Let's move it and groove it... # | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Two '50s petrol heads. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
# Well, a shake a baby shake...# | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Lou, who loved driving cars. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
We never bothered about motor safety in those days. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
You put your foot down and that went. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And John who loved designing them. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
People wanted cars, would you believe? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
And so, that opened a whole, new vista for us. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Yeah, and the world was almost our oyster. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
It was all a big, big challenge. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I know I was much younger in those days, but it was great. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
The start of the '50s was boom time for the British car industry. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
Wannabe car owners crowded the Earls Court Motor Show | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
to ogle the latest models. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Back in Sussex, farmer's wife Lou couldn't wait to get mobile. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
She didn't go to Earls Court to get her perfect car, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
but to Bognor Regis. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
So, we went down to the garage and they'd got nothing there. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
I was feeling absolutely sick. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
And there, on the kerb, stood this car. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
And I said to the salesman, "That's what I call a car." | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
And he said, "You can have it if you want." | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Lou had fallen for an MG Magnette, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
but true love came with a hefty price tag. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
It was just over £700. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
An awful lot of money. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
And the payments, I believe, were £17-something a month. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
It was a struggle, but the trouble was, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
women couldn't get hire purchase in those days. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
So, it had to go in my husband's name. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
And the hire purchase agreement was in his name also. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
But I still had to pay it off. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
And, eventually, got it back into my name. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
In Birmingham, John, a young car designer, firstly for Alvis | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
and then the renowned British Motor Corporation, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
had to bide his time before getting his hands on the wheel. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
We'd just about got a house, we'd had our first daughter | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
and I thought we ought to go in for a car, you know, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
because both my wife and I used to run around on cycles. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
That was fun because it kept us healthy, but we wanted a car. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
So, my wife rather liked the look of the A30, an Austin. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
So, I said, "OK, we'll have that." | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
After nearly 60 years, Lou's car is still on the road | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
and has served her, and even the farm animals, well. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
It's had several years of farm life. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
I've even had a six-month-old Hereford hobbled on the back seat. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
That was all right until I was pushing it a bit and "plonk", | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
he fell off the seat. and hit the back my seat. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
So, I had to get out and try and get him off the floor | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
and get him back on the seat again, but I got home. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
And he was none the worse for wear and neither was the car. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Rising car ownership put more places within reach of motorists, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
eager to see more of their surroundings. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
This freedom of the road was massively expanded | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
by the building of Britain's first motorway in 1958. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
# Come on, pretty baby Let's move it and groove it... # | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
The motorways, when they opened, they were going to be a godsend, no doubt. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
We needed them, for goodness' sake. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
And my in-laws had both retired north of Blackpool | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
and it was a tedious journey. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
And when they opened the first motorways, ah! | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Oh, gosh, I well remember that. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
You could just put your foot down, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
I don't remember looking at the clock, I just went. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
It was great. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
On one occasion, it was rather funny | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
because what should be in front of us, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
but the new Farina Magnette, the Mark 3. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Down went the toe. Whoosh. Bye, bye, Farina. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
Just left it standing. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
The glory days of Birmingham's car industry are long gone. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
But, before the strike-torn '70s and '80s, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
John recalls what made thousands of '50s workers clock in | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
to make motors. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
We'd got the innovation, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
we'd got the people who lived for motor cars. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
They were mechanics, they didn't mind getting their hands dirty and oily. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
They weren't particularly interested in the money, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
it was making a car, for goodness' sake, look what we've done. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
And for Lou, she's still moving it and she's still loyal to her MG. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
It's been a faithful, old companion. It's had a hard life | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and it's done about 380,000 miles. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Well, this car has been with me so long, I would never part with it. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:18 | |
In fact, I've told everybody I want to be buried in it. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Because I would hate to see it go into anybody else's hands. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
And I mean it. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
Well, it's lovely to be joined by you, Lou. Nice to see. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Well, it's nice to meet you. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
Well, how's the old Magnette going? Is it still going strong? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Very, very well indeed. Starts on the button, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-even when it's been sitting dormant for a week or so. -Really? -Yes. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
And what sort of speeds does that get up to? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
You a bit of a speed freak? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
-Well, dare I say it, it's been a ton-up. -Really? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:56 | |
Oh, yes. In the days when you could get proper petrol, five star, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
110 octanes, the engines were built for that. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-And it's been over 100? -Yes. I have proof of it as well. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Oh, I believe you. Yeah. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
And have you still got the same engine or has it been reconditioned? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
It's had another engine in it, yes, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
cos the first engine, its crankshaft broke. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
But they were proper cars, weren't they? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
With the starting handle and everything, it's all there. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
-Couple of cranks and off they go. -Yes. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I don't know why they got rid of the starting handle. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-Neither do I. People wouldn't know how to use them today. -No. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
What about you, Annette? What's your first memory of a vehicle? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
-It was my dad's old Morris 1000. -Oh, there's another cracker. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
-Ah, I loved it. -Yeah. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
Do you know, we knew a man who put cement in the floor of his | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
-and the car still went. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
-What? He sort of concreted it over? -Yeah. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Yeah, well, it saves on mats and things. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
My dad's greatest joy was taking it all to bits | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
and putting it back together again. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Yeah, you could do that in those days cos they were simple. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
-Yes. -Yes. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
You looked to the engine and you... Not that I'm mechanical, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
but you sort of knew what was what. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
You look at a car now, you lift up the bonnet | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
and you haven't got a clue of what anything is anymore. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
My mate had this Wolseley Hornet, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
open-top thing, two-seater with a dicky thing in the back. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
-Oh! -It was a proper, proper vehicle. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
And we used to go, and he used to wear a deerstalker, my mate. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
And when we went up a hill, he had, in the side, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
he had a little fishing rod and a carrot. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
And he used to say, "Get the carrot out." | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
And he'd put it over the top, going up the hill with this carrot. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:36 | |
We had so many laughs with this car, all right. Oh, it was such fun. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:43 | |
-Not so much traffic either. -Well, no traffic, really. -No. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
You know, we used to drive, nothing. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Coming up into London or going down the seaside. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Lovely. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Well, Lou, I've got to say, I congratulate you on keeping that car | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
and I bet it's still in pristine condition. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Now, on your way home, I don't want you speeding along, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
you've got to calm down, dear. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
-I will do as I'm told. -Do your best. -Will do. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Now, I became, I don't want to think about it, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
an apprentice engineer in the '50s and I hated every minute. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
Luckily, I found my dancing feet. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
I can barely cope with computers now, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
so Lord knows how I would've dealt with the threat of them | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
way back when. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
In the heady days of fifties' full employment, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
they started them young on the treadmill of office work. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
I was 16 when I started and I remember, to this day, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
that I joined on the 18th August 1950. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
I was 14 years old and I started working January 1946. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:56 | |
Brian Pierce was a clerk in a bank. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
We had to wear dark suits and stiff collars. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
And the stiff collars were separate from our shirts and, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
after a little while, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
I realised there was a company called Collars Limited | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
that took these collars away every week | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
and laundered them and we got them back. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
And when they wore out, they replaced them for nothing, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
that was part of the laundry charge. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
Margaret Studwick's first job was an office junior | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
in a distribution company. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
The idea was that you were given different types of jobs to do | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
and if you were any good at them, OK, they sort of thought, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
well, you can do that, now we'll try you on something else. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
The new work may not have been back-breaking, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
but there was a price to pay for sitting in a warm office all day. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
It was a job for life and you just worked through, for year after year, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:46 | |
and, now I look back on it, numbingly boring years, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
until, with a bit of luck, you might have become a branch manager, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
probably in your early 40s. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
By the mid-'50s, Margaret had risen to become a typist, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
but, as a woman, she faced other problems. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
There was no question of ever furthering your career, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
you could not. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
Young men could go on and do their examinations | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
and they were able to get onto a ladder, if you like, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
to further their career. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
But we were never offered anything like that. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And some of the girls were very cross | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
because they knew they weren't getting anywhere near | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
a reasonable rate as far as they were concerned. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Before the computer, all office work had to be done by hand. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Business was paper-driven, dull and repetitive, though it was. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
We wrote up the ledgers by hand and then, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
we had to transfer the items to the customers' passbooks. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
And some customers would bring their passbooks in, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
not having been in for two months or so | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
and then, we had to write in two months' entries while they waited. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
In those days, you had carbon copies | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
and you always had a number of leaves behind the top one. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
So, if you made a mistake, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
it was an awful faff to try and get it sorted out. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
So, mostly, you tried not to make too many mistakes. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
But that was just one part of what we were doing | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and they were your invoices. And lots of filing went on. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
One of my jobs was to list all the cheques that were paid in. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
And the cheques were delivered to us | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and we had to list them on an adding machine | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
which simply had a handle | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and we'd just pull the handle down all the time. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
So, there was no mechanisation. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
But while Brian was relying on his little adding machine | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
and Margaret was filing for England, down in London, in 1951, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
something big was being developed. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
It was brewed up in a most unlikely place. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Lyons Corner tea shop. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Lyons had nearly 200 tea shops, scattered through the country. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
The daily orders for new stock of tea and cakes | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
were all done by pen and paper. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
'Each manageress has a standing order | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
'depending on the day of the week. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
'After lunch each day, she considers her stock, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
'weighs up local conditions | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
'and decides what variations, up or down, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'she will make to her order.' | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
Lyons thought the time had come to streamline their business. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
They hired Ernest Kaye, a young electronic engineer | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
to work on a new project they'd cooked up. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
They heard about these peculiar machines | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
that were being developed in America called computers. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
And, being interested in all the latest developments, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:33 | |
they sent a team of people out to the States | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
to find out what this was all about. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
They returned home, brimful of new ideas. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Ernest got down to work on building a computer for Lyons. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
It was called LEO, short for Lyons Electrical Office. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
It was a revolutionary idea | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and everyone on the team was enormously enthusiastic. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
I must say, I've never worked so hard in my life. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
I spent days and nights designing electronic circuits, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
till they came out of my ears. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
The result was unbelievable. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
LEO was a gigantic machine. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
It was colossal, it filled a room 5,000 square feet. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:24 | |
Half the room was taken up by nine-foot-high racks | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
full of electronic equipment, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
the other half of the room was taken up by the printers | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
and the tape readers and also a huge power supply. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
The machine contained over 6,000 valves. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
Used to get very hot and had to be air-cooled. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
Lyons used LEO to plough through vast amounts of clerical work, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
which had been done by hand, such as payroll for their 10,000 staff. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
It was soon being used for all sorts of other calculations too. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
'LEO worked out the shortest distance by rail | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
'from each station to all the other 4,000. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
'This would have taken 50 clerks five years. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
'For the Chancellor, LEO worked out the PAYE tables for '55 to '56 | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
'and printed them off in one night.' | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
But although LEO was the world's first business computer, soon, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
others caught on and, eventually, it was outgunned by the Americans. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
We applied, at one time, to get a government grant | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
to help us develop the computer business. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
And there was a letter saying, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
they didn't think there was a future in computers. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
-Well, Sir Brian, it's lovely to have you here. -Nice to be here. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
-May I call you Brian? -Certainly. -Oh, that's much easier. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Well, what did you make of that? And how did you cope back in the '50s? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Oh, it's interesting to look at it now, at this stage, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
because it was amazing. Even in those days, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
we had a lot of work to cope with, lots of people on the staff. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
I was in a branch in Liverpool with 70 staff | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
and we had just begun to bring in mechanised machines | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
to post some of the major accounts. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
All the others were still on ledger posting, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
quill pens, by the way, and ink. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
And passbooks that we had to complete each day | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
to bring them all up-to-date for our customers. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Some were left in the branches, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
some, they came and took them every night. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Some, for the bigger customers, very big passbooks indeed, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
that we had to complete, pages of them. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
And then, we had to add them all up. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Funnily enough, it was easier to add them up in our heads | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
-because we'd got used to that. -Yeah. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
But there were beginning to be Burroughs Adding Machines | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
where we could put the numbers in | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
and then pull a handle as we went through. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
But that, actually, took longer than adding up a whole row of figures. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
We were better using our noddles, as it were. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-Maths was better than in those days, really. -I think it was. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
I mean, when I look back on it, of course, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
we had no aids at school, we just trawled through paper and so on. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
-Yeah. -But we had to improvise quite a lot. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Not really to do with paper, but, rather amusingly, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
we had to move big volumes of coin. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
The branch I was in, had all the coin | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
from the Corporation of Liverpool paid into it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
And we had to get it to the head office of the bank, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
which was about 500 yards away. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
There wasn't a motorised vehicle that was big enough | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
and had sufficient suspension | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
to, actually, carry the coin at that time. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
So, what we used to do, once a week, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
we used to rent a Threlfall's brewery dray cart. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
And one of the cashiers sat on the front | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
and we'd put all the coin on the back. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
The other junior and I sat on the back with the coin | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
and we trundled off and went along Dale Street in Liverpool | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
to deliver all this coin. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
-On a horse and cart. -On a horse and cart. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
Rather more interestingly, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
from a security point of view, coming back... | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Very few people had bank accounts, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
very few personal customers had bank accounts, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and we had some pretty big customers | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
who would draw large volumes of cash to pay the wages. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
And we would come back with suitcases and, at certain times, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
we'd have £300-350,000 worth of cash in suitcases | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
-on the back of this horse and cart. -And nobody tried to take it? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
-And we never even thought we would be challenged. -No. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
We looked round and admired the view. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
-Yeah, and off you go with your suitcases full of lolly. -We did. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
-Amazing. -It's quite amazing. -And what about you, Annette? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
You got any paper stories for us? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
When I was on holidays from drama school, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
I used to do secretarial work | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
because my mother had insisted I have something to fall back on. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
So, she sent me to a secretarial college | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
and I worked at the Coal Board, which was close to my home in Edinburgh. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
And I remember my first day there and I typed out this, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
I don't know what it was, some kind of report with about six pages | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
and I got them all stencilled together. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
And I was terribly proud of it and carried it into this man | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
and all he had to do was sign it. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
And I left them and I went back to my... | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
And I got the, "Could you come in here a minute?" | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
So, I scuttled back in to see what I'd done wrong. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And he pointed to the top one and he said, "Where do I sign?" | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
I said, "Well, on the last bit." | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
He said, "Right. Well, bring them back to me with just the last page. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
"I don't want to be turning pages." | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-Really? Oh, dear. -Took me a long time to get over that. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
Well, it's amazing. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
-Brian, it's been lovely to talk to you. -Thank you. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Now, things were hotting up on all fronts in the '50s, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
not just with computers. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
The decade also gave us the Jet Age. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
America might have had the Boeing, but, in Britain, we had the Comet. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:54 | |
This great, silver bird was launched in 1952 | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
and the jet set couldn't wait to get on board. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
# Straighten up and fly right Straighten up... # | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
There's Talbot, who was radio officer. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
There's me, there's Captain Alabaster. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
And something quite unusual | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
and that is, they all have moustaches, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
apart from me. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
Audrey Iliffe was an air stewardess on the inaugural flight | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
of the Comet jet aeroplane. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
British-designed and manufactured, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
it was the world's very first passenger jet plane. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
And no-one was more surprised than Audrey that she should be on it. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
I got a phone call from BOAC to say, would I go for an interview. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:47 | |
Which I did. And, to my great surprise, passed it. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
Particularly, as I'd skidded on the floor | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
to where the four of them were sitting looking very, very... | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
much as people look when you're having an interview. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
And then I saw them | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
and they started to laugh and so did I, couldn't help it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
So, there I was, asking, "Please can I become an air stewardess?" | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
And I couldn't keep on my feet. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
Made by the De Havilland company in Hertfordshire | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
for the British Overseas Airways Corporation, BOAC, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
the Comet took off from London to Johannesburg on 2nd May 1952. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
The weather was lovely and when we saw the aircraft, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:39 | |
we just couldn't believe it. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
It looked so smooth and modern, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
made the other aircraft look so old, when they weren't at all. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:49 | |
What made the Comet really different to other aircraft | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
were the Ghost turbojet engines buried in its wings. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Nobody could see propellers, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
that was the thing that did worry, really did, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
because they just felt if you didn't have a propeller, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
it was never any good, you couldn't do anything without one. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
But the world of air travel changed | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
the moment the Comet's wheels left the ground. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
It cut journey times almost in half and flew above the weather, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
eight miles up in the stratosphere. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
It was, kind of, a very fast float. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
You just took off and there you were in the air | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
and, of course, going fast, very fast. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
And you just couldn't believe it possible. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
# Straighten up and fly right Straighten up and fly right... # | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
The air-conditioned, fully pressurised cabin gave passengers | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
a quiet, smooth ride, previously unheard-of in commercial aviation. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
I don't guarantee it every time, you know. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
-I'll try. -Go on. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
Why does it have to be...? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
And, of course, because it was so stable, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
there was no fear that your dinner might end up in your lap. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
With a lot of the other aircrafts, if it was bumpy weather, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
it was a question of getting the food on their plate if possible. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
Sometimes, if it's too bad, you couldn't do that. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
You'd try and it would be disastrous. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
In these golden days of jet air travel, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
only the very rich could afford to fly. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
They expected the best of everything. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
You would ask each passenger what they would like to have a drink. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Usually champagne and I don't blame them either. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
It just was like having a very, very big birthday party. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
The landing in Johannesburg was a triumph. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
The whole feeling was | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
that the Comet couldn't have done better | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
for the whole air industry. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
For all the advances, the Comet was still a grand experiment | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
and, over the next few years, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
a series of tragic accidents would ground the British jet fleet. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
The future of jet design now belonged | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
to the Americans and Russians. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
But that doesn't take away from the fact that, in 1952, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
it was the British-made Comet that was king of the air. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
# Fly right. # | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
Well, what a marvellous, little bit of film. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
Makes you proud to be British, well, it does me, I hope it does you. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
It was great, wasn't it, eh? That fabulous plane. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
Do you remember your first flight? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Yes, I think it was when we went to the Lebanon. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
We went to the Baalbeck Festival with the Bristol Vic Theatre Company. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
And, in those days, the pilot used to tell you where you were. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
"If you'd care to look out the window, on the right-hand side." | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
And I was sitting there with my friend Maggie Jones | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
and a lot the company surged to the side of the plane, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
Maggie and I screaming, "Sit down! The plane..." | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
-With visions. -"You're going to wrong the thing." Yeah. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Well, I must say, I never, ever got on a Comet, that's for sure. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:12 | |
And I never flew until well into the '60s. Well, we didn't. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
-We went to, we went to our caravan. -Absolutely. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Didn't we? We didn't fly off to foreign parts, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
exotic ports of call. It was unheard-of. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
I must say, though, when you look at that, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
and how elegant flying was then. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
-Oh, yes. -And how it is now. -Yeah, sardines. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
Sardines and you need a cattle prod, really, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
to move you along a bit quicker. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
-Progress. -It's a shame, eh? But... | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
It's been lovely to reminisce with you. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-It's been lovely to be here. -It really has. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
And I've enjoyed reminiscing about the '50s with you, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-it's been so nice. -Any time, Len. -Oooh, you little saucepot. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
Just as the '50s did, all good things come to an end. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
I hope you've enjoyed our romp through my decade. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
There's no doubt about it, the way we were has made us what we are. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
And do you know, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
there's a tune been running through my head all the time. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:18 | |
Get ready for it, Len's about to sing. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
# There's Teds in drainpipe trousers | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
# And debs in coffee houses | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
# Oh, fings ain't what they used to be. # | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
Calm down, dear. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Goodbye from all of us on The 1952 Show. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
MUSIC: "Fings Ain't Wot They Used T'Be" | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 |