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The town of Ironbridge in Shropshire, famous for being the | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. To me, boxer Richie | :00:12. | :00:16. | |
Woodhall, it's home. I grew up a mile away and Ironbridge was my | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
childhood playground. In the school holidays, I'd find myself down here | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
almost every day. I'd go fishing just down the hill there on the | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
river. Like many people, I've taken my home town for granted. Now I'm | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
going on a journey to unlock this town's history. | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
Nick, I must have walked past this memorial 1,000 times and never give | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
it a second glance. It's a journey of discovery and | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
revelation, with some surprises on the way. | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
That's incredible, isn't it? He wasn't actually killed in the | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
war. So he died at a later time. I've lived in this area for 42 | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
years. I've never really asked the questions about the history of the | :01:01. | :01:11. | |
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area and also the people and now I This is the bridge that made | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
Ironbridge in Shropshire famous. Built by local ironmaster Abraham | :01:31. | :01:38. | |
Darby III in 1779, it was the world's first iron bridge. The town | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
then grew up around it. In the 1800s, in its industrial heyday, | :01:42. | :01:49. | |
over 2,500 people lived here. I want to find out who those people | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
were and how they lived, but I've got no idea where to start. I've | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
drafted in a bit of help. Historian Nick Barrett is going to give me | :01:57. | :02:03. | |
tips on what to look for. Lesson one. | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
I feel I'm on a journey. I want to find out in-depth about the history | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
of this area. How do I go about that? How do I go about finding the | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
history about buildings, people - where do I look? First of all, | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
start with what fascinates you. This is your personal experience. | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
It's very easy to take it all for granted because you've grown up | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
here. You take all of the various bits of architecture as given, but | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
you need to look at them with a fresh pair of eyes, that's the | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
exciting thing about it. Just walk up and down the street. Focus on | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
things that perhaps you haven't really noticed that much before. | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
Everything has got an explanation. Everything links into the much | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
bigger picture. It's taking those small clues and then expanding them | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
out so you really understand how Ironbridge formed and changed. | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
the answers are here, just doing a bit of exploring, I suppose. | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
Walking around is always the best place to start. | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
Whenever you look at your home town, the best place to start is the high | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
street. Not only is it the closest but also the oldest part of town as | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
well. You always need shops. You can start to see some of the clues. | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
Many people just look at the shop fronts to work out where they're | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
going to go into. Raise your eyes a bit and you have fantastic clues | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
that you sometimes don't spot. Some of these buildings are very | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
different in style. They've been built at different moments in time. | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
Clues like that window, just bricked up. Glass was taxed, so you | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
brick them up to save a bit of money. | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
I've never even questioned why windows would be bricked up. This | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
small detail shows me I've really got to start thinking differently, | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
if I want to understand how people used to live. | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
Nick, this street looks like it holds a couple of stories. It looks | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
fantastic. I love the angle. Shall we have a little explore? You get a | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
sense of different brickwork as well. It's very yellow on this side, | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
but there's a lot more blue brick back here. Worth the climb, isn't | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
it? Great view. It's fantastic, but you get a sense of what it's like | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
to be above the town, all the roofs are jumbled together. If you can | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
get above the town, always try and do so. | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
Then the town's war memorial catches Nick's attention. | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
Nick, I must have walked past this memorial about 1,000 times and I've | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
never give it a second glance. is the first port of call for | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
anyone trying to do local history. It's a fixed point in time, but | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
also you've got the names of so many residents here. | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
What about this, though, three soldiers all with the same surname, | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
Speake. We see the surname Speake - there's | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
three soldiers there that have been tragically killed. I mean, they | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
could be from the same family. Almost certainly, yes. It's a | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
fairly small, self-contained place, so we can actually use this to find | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
out what happened here, the particular tragedy of losing three | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
members of a family, they could be cousins or brothers, but it gets | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
you to the heart of the community, what life was like before the First | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
World War came along, what they were doing, their occupations. It's | :05:04. | :05:13. | |
a great entry point to finding out more about Ironbridge. So far it's | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
the names of the soldiers that have really captured my imagination. | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
There's one name in particular, the Speake family. Were they brothers | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
or cousins? Did their deaths destroy an entire Ironbridge | :05:22. | :05:30. | |
family? Already I'm starting to ask questions. Walking up the high | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
street's been a great start, but Nick wants to meet local people. | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
The key to uncovering any town or village's history is by talking to | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
the people who live there. So I've organised a bit of a do at the | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
Tontine Hotel, the town's oldest building. All I need to do now is | :05:46. | :05:55. | |
guarantee people will come. BBC Radio Shropshire. ..Well, we | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
need people to come and speak to us, really. We're going to be in the | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
Tontine Hotel from 4pm till 7pm. That's Richie Woodhall on the show | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
talking about this documentary on the BBC. They're going to be at the | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
Tontine Hotel, Monday, in Ironbridge, 4pm until 7pm. If | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
you've got any stories, old footage, photographs about Ironbridge and | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
how it has changed over the years, do go down and see Richie and the | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
team. I suppose in these situations, | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
speaking to local people, I mean, it's hands-on experience, it's | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
crucial. It is, yes. We think of archives as being documents in | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
libraries, museums, but actually we're all archives. We all remember | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
things. We all like telling stories. That's what we want to get here | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
today. It's really personalising your journey and finding out from | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
the people who've lived through quite a lot of this history what it | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
meant to them. We've had a tie with Ironbridge for | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
over 50 years with my grandfather here, who was working in the pie | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
shop. The sewer is there. What happened in the old days then - it | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
pumped into the river, I suppose? Everything went into the river. Yet, | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
we learned to swim in the river. Oh, my goodness, what have you got | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
there? These are just local people on here going back, gosh, 40 years | :07:09. | :07:17. | |
or more there. This is a treasure trove. To actually be able to find | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
people who were here at a crucial point in the town's history is | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
stunning, really lucky stuff. Nick was right, simply by listening | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
I'm starting to understand Ironbridge's ancestry. But when | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
Rosemary Clegg and her friends arrive, I discover it's not just me | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
interested in the town's war memorial. I did some research on | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
the war memorial, into each individual man. On the website was | :07:39. | :07:47. | |
answering questions about the individuals, so yeah. The war | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
memorial here in Ironbridge fascinates me because there are | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
certain surnames on there, there's one surname, Speake, there's three | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
people who were called Speake, who have lost their lives. Were they of | :07:56. | :08:03. | |
the same family, do you know? They were? There were quite a few | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
brothers of different families. That was Word War I, am I right? | :08:06. | :08:15. | |
Yes. Is this a photo of... That's out of the newspaper. That's one of | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
the Speakes? I can't believe my luck and neither can Nick. | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
Rosemary's coming up with answers I thought would take hours, even days | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
of research. Why did you do it originally? Pure interest, just I | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
thought, they're going to be forgotten. Was it a case of you | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
looking at that memorial one day and thinking, "I want to find out | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
about these people"? Yes. Here you have a goldmine of information. | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
This is why it's so important to talk to people who have got that | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
local knowledge. In many ways it would have been easy to run around | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
and try to replicate some of this. It's here. You're beginning to | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
answer some of those early questions. The war memorial is the | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
starting point. You've got some names and there it is, all done for | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
you. It's now a case of working out what other questions need answers. | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
It's now focusing back in on what you need to find out and what's | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
missing. I think Richie's going to go on a | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
really exciting journey. What's he going to expect? Well, expect the | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
unexpected. There's a world of possibility and he has to start | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
being ruthless and focus on one or two things. | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
So day two, and Nick's words are ringing in my ears. I've got to | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
follow what interests me and start to be ruthless. I've had a night to | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
think about it, and I've decided, there's a couple of families that | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
really caught my imagination, the Speake family. Three brothers lost | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
their lives. This is a very small town, is Ironbridge. That must have | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
been absolutely devastating. It's devastating to lose one soldier, | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
but three from the same family. I'd like to know about them. | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
I'm going to research the lives of the Speake brothers. By building a | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
picture of how they and their family lived, I can start to | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
understand what life was like here in the early 1900s. Mary McKenzie, | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
one of the experts at Shrewsbury Archives, has done some digging for | :09:57. | :10:04. | |
me using the 1911 census. Interestingly enough, we did a bit | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
of research into the family and we found that they were a very... | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
There was a lot of children, nine children. Nine! The parents | :10:12. | :10:19. | |
actually got married after they had a few of the children. OK. That was | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
not particularly unusual in those days. They were married in 1891. | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
The family, they lived in Ironbridge. They appear to have | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
lived in Lincoln Hill. We can see from the census that the father in | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
1911, the father was a labourer and the boys seem to work as moulders | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
in the iron works, which I understand is the people who made | :10:37. | :10:43. | |
the moulds in which the iron was poured into. | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
So the Speake soldiers were from a family of nine children, Henry, | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
Alfred, James, Percy, Albert, Violet, Nelly, Thomas and Daisy. | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
Their parents were Thomas and Susanna Speake and on the night of | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
the census in 1911, they were living at number 15 Lincoln Hill, | :10:54. | :11:04. | |
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Before they signed up for the Army, all four brothers worked in the | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
iron industry. It's incredible, already with these few details I'm | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
starting to build a picture of their life. A great day. I really | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
wanted to find out about the Speake family and I have done. I found out | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
about even their occupations, finding out that their parents had | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
nine kids. I've got an address where they actually lived on | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
Lincoln Hill. I want to go back to that cottage, where is it? I want | :11:32. | :11:38. | |
to have a look at it and try to picture how these people lived. | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
Armed with the address, I've recruited Ron Miles, local amateur | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
historian to help me out, as the house numbers on Lincoln Hill might | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
have changed over the last century. Speake family was well known in | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
Ironbridge. Where we're standing now I'm 90% certain, the Speakes | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
had a shop here at the bottom of Lincoln Hill. They lived in a | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
cottage, probably number 15, halfway up Lincoln Hill on the | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
left-hand side. There's one solitary cottage there. Is there | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
anything you don't know about Ironbridge? I don't know much about | :12:09. | :12:19. | |
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Ron, the cottage is on the drawing, they're here then, aren't they? | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
Yeah, the cottage is right here. About ten of them here. Looking | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
through there, there's whatlooks like a fireplace there. Would that | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
have been in the house or not? would have been at the rear of all | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
these eight or nine cottages. That would have been the remnants of | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
limestone burning on this hill. you look closely, there's like | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
walls on walls and steps, so all these cottages, these are the | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
remains of the cottages that were all along here? Yeah, they were | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
here probably until 1970. I've had a cup of tea in one of them. So Ron | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
thinks number 15 has been demolished, but I'm not convinced. | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
I think it could have just been renumbered. So in my new capacity | :13:01. | :13:08. | |
as historian, I might do a bit of my own research. | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
We are after number 15, you see. Yes, I don't know where 15 is. | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
12. That's 14. Do you think 15 would be down or further up? Really, | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
it's anybody's guess. I suspect it might have been on the road on that | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
side, because that is also Lincoln Hill. The road just at the back | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
here? Yeah, Lincoln Hill is up there, Lincoln Hill is up there and | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
there's a junction up there and it's still Lincoln Hill up there to | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
the brow of the hill. I've just spoken to a resident who | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
lives at number 12. She's pointed me in this direction. It's got a | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
good case that it could be up this road here. | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
The more closely I look at number 16, the more I think that this | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
could have been two cottages at one point. It was two cottages | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
originally. The other one is next door to it. So what's the one next | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
door down to it from that, it would have come up, 16, 15, it's | :14:02. | :14:10. | |
definitely two. This could be the end of the line. I've actually | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
spoken to someone who knows all about the history of these two | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
cottages here and this is number 16 Lincoln Hill. We think at some | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
point there was two cottages here. If you look at the bricks, we think | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
that this could have been the path. We think this was the front door to | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
number 15. And if that is the case, then 15 Lincoln Hill is where the | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
Speake family lived. But am I right? I've invited | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
historian Nick Barrett back to test out my theory. Now I've done my own | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
bit of research. I actually think that they lived here. Well, I've | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
been doing a bit of research of my own as well. Not to check up on you, | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
obviously, but out of curiosity, because I was fascinated by their | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
story. Back then, I picture this cottage being two cottages. Back | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
then, they lived in... Working- class families lived in smaller | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
cottages, could this have been two cottages? | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
So Nick cross-references the old maps with the electoral register | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
and something called the 1910 valuation office survey, which | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
lists who owned and rented properties at the time. So a little | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
more in depth than my research. Thomas Speake was not living at | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
this property. He's not there. you sure, Nick? Absolutely certain. | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
The maps that I've seen, they assign numbers to each of these. | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
This one is definitely only numbered as number 16. So in 1910 | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
this wasn't two buildings, it was one? It was only one building, it | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
was number 16. You've disappointed me. I'm very sorry. I hopefully can | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
give you some good news. It looks like he was living, at the time of | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
the 1911 census, in number 15. At some point later, certainly by late | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
1913, he was in number 11. But the 1910 records show that he was in | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
property number 12. He was on a weekly rent in number 12. I guess, | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
having a large family, nine children, he needs space. Now if | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
times are hard and you can't afford to live in a large house, he'd have | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
to downsize. Numbers 12, 13 and 14 were all grouped together. And at | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
certain points in time he was living in each and every one of | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
those. He would literally move from place to place. Not that many | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
possessions, perhaps - it all goes on rent and food. You wouldn't have | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
large amounts of furniture. Many of these houses would be ready- | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
furnished, with just bed space. Of course, this is a very different | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
time. It's hand to mouth existence. Yes, in this sense, very common. | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
I've made the common mistake most amateur historians make. I wanted | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
that cottage to be number 15. I looked for the evidence to back up | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
my theory. Next time I will do it Nick's way. It's very easy to jump | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
to conclusions. Because you desperately want it to be true, you | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
seize on one piece of evidence and forget all the other bits. It's | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
like doing a jigsaw puzzle. You've got the first clue, but it may not | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
be the whole picture. That's why you have to keep going back and | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
asking questions maybe of people you've already spoken to. Go back | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
to house number 12 where you've met someone and you think this can't be | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
the right house - it's over there. Actually you re-appraise what you | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
found. How many metaphors do you want to use - jigsaw puzzles, | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
layers of onions. It's about depth and perception and getting your | :17:19. | :17:26. | |
teeth into it, and he's done that so well. | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
So I'm making good progress, by understanding a bit more about this | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
one family, I'm learning how difficult life would have been in | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
the early 1900s here in Ironbridge, especially with nine children. | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
Moving house from week to week and constantly looking for work. | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
However, there's still one mystery I haven't solved and that's where | :17:40. | :17:50. | |
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the three brothers died. I found records of the deaths of Percy and | :17:51. | :18:01. | |
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Alfred, who were killed in battle a year apart. | :18:01. | :18:11. | |
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Got him. He's Speake, Ironbridge, I can't find anything about H | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
Speake, Henry or Harry as he was known. Neither can anybody else | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
I've spoken to. We certainly found that there were two brothers who | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
appear to have been killed in the First World War. Alfred, who died | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
in March 1915, and Percy, who died in April 1916. We haven't been able | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
to find, I think you thought there was a Harold or an H. Yes, there's | :18:37. | :18:44. | |
three Speakes on the memorial itself. There was an A, a P and | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
another one. There's one I cannot find any information on at all, one | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
of the brothers. He's on the war memorial, but I contacted lots of | :18:51. | :18:59. | |
people in the area and none of them But then I make a breakthrough. | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
We've tracked down Naomi Hindly. She's the granddaughter of Daisy | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
Speake, the youngest of the Speake children. So today, I might uncover | :19:07. | :19:15. | |
the mystery of where and how Harry It's probably the final piece of | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
the jigsaw to be honest, to speak to a relative of those brothers and | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
she might be able to just shed a little bit more light on the | :19:22. | :19:32. | |
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Hello. Naomi, yeah? Yeah. Richie. Pleased to meet you. You | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
OK? I like the dog. He ain't going to bite me, is he? No, he's not. | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
How are you, you OK? I'm fine, thank you. We have another of | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
Alfred and Percy's brothers commemorated on the Ironbridge war | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
memorial, H Speake. At this moment no trace can be found of H Speake. | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
We think he was killed with the brothers. He wasn't actually killed | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
in the war. So, he died at a later time in the Beeches Hospital. He | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
wasn't killed in the war, so hence probably there are no records. | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
Beechers Hospital was just a stone's throw from the house. | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
Absolutely. He never died in the war? No. He didn't die in the war | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
at all. Four brothers went, two were killed. Two came back. I think | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
she was quite proud that her brothers actually went. But she was | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
young at the time. I think she used to point out on the war memorial | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
that they were all there. We used to laugh because Harry was actually | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
there and didn't actually die. She went, well he got his name there, | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
but he didn't actually die there. She was quite... Did she have any | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
pictures at all? I've got a few pictures that she's written on the | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
back of. Funny enough, Harry. That's Harry there. That's Harry. | :20:46. | :20:54. | |
Later on in life, obviously. Funny teeth. Right, OK. So just, again it | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
backs up the story. Because he's a lot older here than he would be in | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
the war. Yes. So he came back. I'm a little bit surprised, to be | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
honest. I thought the three brothers died in the Great War. | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
Only two did. That would explain why Harry Speake, H Speake, there | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
was no record of his death or anything like that. A little bit | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
surprised. In a way, I mean, it must have been terrible to lose two | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
sons, but at least they didn't lose three sons, that's all I can say | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
about that. I think it's brought closure to the story now on the | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
Speake family. Very proud of them, actually, and speaking to a | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
relative, I think it's just capped it off nicely. But my journey isn't | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
over yet. Nick told me to concentrate on what interests me. | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
Well, there's another name I want to know more about that's Maurice | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
EA Darby. He was one of the soldiers listed on the neighbouring | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
village Coalbrookdale's war memorial. If, like me, you grew up | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
around here, you'll know the name Darby. My school was even called | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
Abraham Darby. It was the Darby family that built the iron bridge | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
and for over 150 years, they owned the largest ironworks in | :22:04. | :22:13. | |
Coalbrookdale. Round here they're an industrial dynasty. Come on. I | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
know Maurice Darby is a direct descendant of the family. I'd love | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
to know more about his life and how it compares to working class Speake | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
family. He came from a totally different background. His family | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
were very, very wealthy. It was just interesting, obviously, he was | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
killed as well, finding out about him. His life was totally different | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
to the Speakes. They were working- class, hard, hard grafting people, | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
I'm not saying he wasn't hard grafting, hard working, but he led | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
a totally different life. I'm heading to Coalbrookdale Archives | :22:40. | :22:47. | |
to see Gillian Cramton. Hopefully she'll help me fill in the missing | :22:47. | :22:55. | |
gaps. Maurice is born in London. That's the life that he knew. He | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
was educated at Eton. He went to Sandhurst. He would have been very | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
well aware of the company, I'm sure, when he came up here. But he wasn't | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
actually involved in the ironworks. Generations before that, all his | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
family are from this area, but he had no real connection living here? | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
I think he would have had other relatives living, but certainly no | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
connection to the actual industry itself in terms of him knowing | :23:16. | :23:22. | |
anything about how to run an ironworks as his forefathers did. | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
Maurice's father, he was the last Darby to be associated with the | :23:25. | :23:32. | |
company itself. Yes, with the Coalbrookdale company, Alfred Darby | :23:32. | :23:40. | |
II, he was the last chairman from the family. He died in 1925. That | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
ended the association with the Coalbrookdale company with the | :23:42. | :23:49. | |
Darby family. He was the last person to be in charge. So with the | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
family connection to Coalbrookdale at an end, Maurice was free to | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
pursue his own dreams. After leaving school, he went to | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
Sandhurst and became a captain in the Army. So aged just 20, he found | :24:01. | :24:08. | |
himself in the trenches leading 100 men to battle. Only eight months | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
into the war, Maurice was killed in action. But Gillian wants to show | :24:12. | :24:19. | |
me an incredible artefact they have here in the archives. He was killed | :24:19. | :24:27. | |
in battle in 1915, on the 11th of March. This is the letter that says | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
"I hereby certify that Lieutenant Maurice AE Derby, 1st Grenadier | :24:29. | :24:37. | |
Guards, died of wounds received in action." And that his remains can | :24:37. | :24:46. | |
be removed to England without any chance of infection. So, this was | :24:46. | :24:54. | |
the letter that went to his family? Yes. To tell him that he was dead? | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
Uh-huh. That's incredible, isn't it? Sent from France. Look at that! | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
That's interesting, so they're saying then that his remains can be | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
returned to England without any infection. So it's more or less | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
saying he's dead, but you can come and... Come and collect his body. | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
Come and collect him. That was unusual. I was going to say, that | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
would be unusual. So Maurice's body was repatriated, | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
brought home and buried here in Shropshire in Little Ness. This is | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
common practice nowadays, but the soldiers and officers of the First | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
World War were usually buried where they fell. It must have been so | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
rare for someone to be killed on the battlefield, you know, Word War | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
I, and yet the family goes over, you know, across to France, and to | :25:41. | :25:51. | |
bring him back, to actually find him. They probably didn't know | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
where he was. They were given permission. They must have been a | :25:54. | :26:04. | |
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family that was well thought of, well respected. Here he is. Maurice | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
AA Derby, Lieutenant, Grenadier Guards, killed in action March 11, | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
1915, aged 20. I've traced a distant relative of Maurice's, Mark | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
Hamilton Russell, and I've arranged to meet him at the family home, | :26:14. | :26:24. | |
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Dudmaston Hall in Quatt, Shropshire. I wonder if he knows just how | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
unusual it was for the body of a soldier killed in the First World | :26:38. | :26:44. | |
War to be brought home? Did you know that there were | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
probably only about four or five people ever to be brought back from | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
the First World War, who died and had their bodies brought back? Did | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
you know that? I didn't, but I did know he must be one of very few. | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
Yes, it was actually his uncle that went and got him back. It says that | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
it was on a night-time, so while the battle was more or less going | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
on, or just after the battle was going on rather, his uncle actually | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
went out to the battlefield, literally sifting through bodies | :27:07. | :27:17. | |
and actually found him. Wow, no, I didn't know that. That's amazing. | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
Can you imagine a 20-year-old boy in that position, in a war like | :27:20. | :27:26. | |
that? It's extraordinary, isn't it, and not just a boy as you say, but | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
also to have such responsibility looking after... A company | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
commander at the age of 20, looking after in the region of 100. 100, | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
some men and some other boys and have to be the person that they all | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
look up to and has all the answers to all the dangers that they're | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
facing. Mark, have you found it interesting? Amazing. I've learned | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
some history about my family which I never knew. I've learned some | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
very intimate and, at the time, would have been very emotional | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
aspects of the family. And I thank you very much for bringing it to my | :27:58. | :28:04. | |
and I will distribute that to my family's attention. It's been eye | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
opening and somewhat emotional to discover some facts about the | :28:06. | :28:16. | |
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So, that wander up the High Street I grew up on has taken some twists | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
and turns and each of them's led to another story, another surprise, | :28:24. | :28:30. | |
another surprise. Ironbridge, a place I thought I knew so well, a | :28:30. | :28:40. | |
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place I'm getting to know all over Discover your own place in history | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
by joining us at the Herbert Art Gallery and Museum in Coventry on | :28:46. | :28:49. |