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Do you dream of having your own special outdoor space,

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a small garden that you can admire, enjoy and call your own?

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And then you stop and think, "I have no idea how to make it"?

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Well, you're not alone.

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Monty Don has travelled up and down the country

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visiting amateur gardeners with bold ambitions.

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He's scrutinised their plans

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and pushed them out of their comfort zones.

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Going out into deeper, darkest unknown territory!

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It's not been easy...

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I hate it.

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Argh!

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..but everyone's worked incredibly hard...

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Both of us want to sleep for a week, pretty much.

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You've had your tea break, come on.

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..and the transformations have been extraordinary.

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It's just incredible, it really is.

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I declare this garden open!

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CHEERING

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I do believe that everybody, however small the garden, can cultivate

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a big dream.

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-Here they come.

-Here they come.

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This is like an identification parade, isn't it?

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This time, Monty is helping two sets of ambitious gardeners,

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each facing challenges on a very different scale.

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That's it!

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One may be a tiny urban courtyard, but the dream is off the scale.

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My big dream for this place is for it to become a tropical garden.

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The other is a larger space

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but has to fulfil the dreams of a whole community.

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It's a blank canvas at the moment, really.

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I'd like it to provide inspiration to the children.

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Both are tackling complicated projects,

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and are desperate for Monty's advice.

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If you don't want it there, move it.

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God, that was so much bigger than I thought it was.

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This is just a bundle of fibrous roots.

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Doesn't look like anything.

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With absolutely no gardening experience whatsoever between them,

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can they possibly manage it?

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I've got this big dream,

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but we just don't know how to get it into reality.

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We've got the time, we've got some money,

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but we don't have the... We don't have the knowledge.

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Our first garden is a private urban retreat in Hackney

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in north-east London.

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A year ago, Carla and Stewart moved into this 1990s bungalow,

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with a tiny patch of garden tucked behind it

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measuring only 20 square metres.

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This is the back garden, and at the moment it's just very bare.

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It's surrounded by walls and there's a shed,

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big tree and a dead tree

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and peeling paint.

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I think it's amazing that we even have any garden space at all.

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But Carla has a very particular dream for the tiny back courtyard,

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inspired by her childhood in the Philippines.

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With little idea where to start,

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the couple are thrilled and relieved to hear that Monty will give them

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a hand in creating their tropical paradise.

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We need him to guide us on how we can make the most out of it.

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It's such a small space,

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that I think the planting would be very important.

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And there's a couple of plants that we put in since we moved in,

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but it hasn't really kind of moved on very much from that.

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Monty's skills might be needed on another front, too.

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We've got, like, a banana plant, haven't we? So we've had countless

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-arguments about where the best place to put that is.

-Yeah.

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We really need an adjudicator for that one.

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I'd like to be proved right, but I'll probably be proved wrong!

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Our second garden belongs to a whole community.

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This large space is used as a play area by St Mary's Primary School

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in the village of Hawkshaw, near Bury in Lancashire.

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It's also shared with the whole village.

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And the members of the PTA - the Parents and Teachers Association -

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feel they can be doing so much more with this 300 square metres of land.

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At the moment, it's just grass, it's just patio.

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And we want it to be exciting, we want it to draw people in, don't we?

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It's never been maintained,

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and it's something the school has just neglected, really.

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But it's something that the PTA have taken on.

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Helen and Jenny are both parents with children at the school

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and Claire is the school secretary.

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We've got this lovely space

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that we can make use of for the whole school.

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We want it to be like a journey, where people can go around the path

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-and it just feels like they've experienced something.

-Yeah.

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The bottom area, we want to really bring to life, don't we?

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Yeah, sensory area.

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Nature area, the stumpery, the bug hotel.

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The three mothers have big dreams

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and the backing of the whole community.

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But it's Monty's help they need more than anything.

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We're a bit overwhelmed.

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Without him, we wouldn't be able to finish this to the standard we want.

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No.

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It's the merry month of May.

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With the sap rising and everything bursting into fresh leaf,

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it's a great time to make a start on a new garden project.

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Monty is on his way to Hackney to meet Carla and Stewart,

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and see what he can do to help them with their project.

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Can't imagine what he's going to say about our garden.

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I don't think he's going to tear the design to pieces,

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-but I'm kind of bracing myself just in case.

-Yeah!

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-Hi, Monty.

-Hello, hello.

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-Welcome.

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, too.

-Hello.

-Hello.

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The couple can't wait to show him the courtyard.

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So this is the space.

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-Mm-hm.

-Well, it's interesting!

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It's nice. What do you want from this garden when it's finished?

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We'd like it to look like a tropical garden.

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-Why tropical?

-I'm from the Philippines.

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-Yeah.

-So I had a really great childhood there.

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Having banana trees and coconut trees.

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We might be pushed to get coconuts.

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-Yeah!

-Yeah. So you want a piece of the Philippines?

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-Yes.

-Do you share that vision or is this entirely yours?

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It came from Carla but I'm definitely fully on board.

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We went to the Philippines last year and had an amazing time.

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Carla and Stewart look pleased to have laid out their dream before

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Britain's favourite gardener. But will he approve?

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Often when people say something like that, the next half-hour

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is a process of gently sort of disillusioning them of

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all their dreams and hopes and fantasies.

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Because we're in the UK, it's cold and it's wet and it's miserable.

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However, here in the middle of London,

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with these nice high walls all around,

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I think there's a real chance of doing something genuinely exotic

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-and lush.

-Well, that's good news.

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Now for some practical tips.

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Do you want to repaint those walls, or strip them back to brick?

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We kind of like the faded look.

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-Right.

-With the paint kind of flicking off as it is...

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-Yeah.

-..we don't think it's that great for the garden.

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Well, I would be inclined to maximise the light...

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-OK.

-..because the walls are great shelter,

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but they are going to block the light to a certain extent,

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which brings us to the next point,

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is what sort of budget you're talking about.

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£2,000, haven't we?

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-Yeah.

-Which is quite generous for what is a relatively small space.

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Yeah.

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With their dream outlined and the budget approved,

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it's time to look at their ideas in more detail.

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This is very professional.

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-Did you do this?

-No, Carla did.

-I did it.

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The couple's plan is to cover the old concrete paving with a pebbled

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texture. The space will be dominated by a barbecue,

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dining and fire pit right in the middle.

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Adding to their existing plans,

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they want to place dramatic exotics such as bananas

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and canna round the edges of the paving,

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and site a large bamboo near the old tree in the corner.

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Black stone pebble paving, presumably this patch here.

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-Yeah.

-Why?

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I think being able to sort of go out

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there barefoot when it's nice and hot. It's part of my nostalgia.

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I just think the way it is now,

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-you would never dream of going out there barefoot.

-I agree.

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Having approved of the pebbled surface,

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Monty now suggests a better use for it.

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There is no actual path of any kind.

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You can, if you want,

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take your guests on a route, even in a very small garden.

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Cool.

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But he's also noticed a potential mistake that needs addressing.

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You've got a very scruffy existing tree that is about as un-Philippine

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as it can be.

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This is prime real estate, OK?

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-OK.

-So we want prime Filipino plants.

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I think what you have to do is clear out everything, including that tree.

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-Really?

-I would take it down.

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Chainsaw time. It's not going to fit in your story.

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Yeah.

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By removing the tree,

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Monty explains they can put their tender tropical plants there

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and make better use of the sunny side of the courtyard.

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Your south-west corner,

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which is going to be sunny from mid-afternoon to the evening,

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is going to have your best plants,

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or at least your plants that like heat the most.

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And he finds the ideal spot for their banana palm.

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The banana will fare best in the hottest spot.

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Monty reckons the couple should scrap everything

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and paint the walls white.

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A new path through their luscious planting would create a jungly

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sense of mystery. And their more tender exotic plants like the banana

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should be sited in the sunniest corner to help them survive

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the British winter.

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With the plan in good shape, Monty goes back to the courtyard

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because he's spotted some plants, like this passion flower,

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which need attention right now.

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If you do want to salvage some plants, just a few little tips.

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If we take this passion flower,

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it's planted much too close to the wall. When you plant wall plants,

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keep them at least a foot away from the wall.

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So, back where my foot is now, there. And angle them in.

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And the reason for that is, rain never falls dead vertical.

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It falls at an angle, hits the wall, and the wall soaks it up.

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So they get dry. Now, I'll dig that up.

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Monty sets to work to save the passion flower...

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-Dig round.

-..and shows the couple how to pot up plants

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until they're ready to be put in the newly created tropical garden.

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Now, you can see - it's a nice example, actually -

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look how the roots have grown since it's been planted.

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-When did you plant this?

-About six weeks ago.

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So it is growing well. I put my hand in this.

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I'm assuming this is compost.

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-Yes.

-A bit in the bottom.

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And just gently pop it in like that.

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And, actually, there's no need to even add any more.

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Give it a good soak, let that soak in and then give it some more.

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And do that once a week.

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And put it somewhere out of direct sunlight, and out of the wind.

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And with the plants in their temporary pots,

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Monty leaves Carla and Stewart with a final word of advice.

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I think that's as far as I can go on this. What you now have to do

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is just clear away all plants

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unless you actively want them in that position.

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All surfaces, whether it be brick, gravel, paving.

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If you don't want it there, move it.

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And, hopefully, this will be transformed.

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And then we'll do more transforming together. Good.

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I think what we've got at the moment has a lot of potential.

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-Definitely.

-You realise there is a surprising amount of space there.

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What they need to do now is to possess the space.

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Not worry about details, but keep the big picture clear in their mind

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and then plan a route towards achieving that.

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Having Monty here today has really spurred us on to kind of get

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-cracking and rip everything up...

-Yeah.

-..as he was recommending.

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Yeah.

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And then we can work towards creating that Philippine paradise

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that they want.

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It's June. Monty is making his way to Hawkshaw,

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to meet the gardening dream team at St Mary's School.

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We're really, really excited about it because he's going to give us

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that expertise and guidance that we just haven't got.

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-The children are very excited, aren't they?

-Yeah.

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You say to the children, "Monty Don's coming."

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Showed them a picture of him and said, "Do you know him?"

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Yeah, they all recognised him.

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Monty wants to see what he can do

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to help the PTA group transform their boring site.

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-Hello.

-Hello! Nice to meet you.

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-Hello, I'm Monty.

-Lovely to meet you.

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-Hello.

-Hi. Come on in.

-Come in.

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-Ah, is this the plot?

-It is.

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Most of this large space is grassed over,

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but with little else in the way of plants.

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There's a functional but plain patio at the top of the slope

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and a stage-like decked area

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at the bottom with some existing fixed seating.

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At the moment, it's mainly used by St Mary's youngest schoolchildren,

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as parent and PTA member Helen explains to Monty.

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We've got from age 4 to 11 here in the school. So at the moment,

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it's mainly utilised by a reception and year one children.

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The rest of the children aren't really getting any benefit

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from the space. So we kind of wanted

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to bring that in by growing vegetables and different plants,

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eventually run a gardening club and involve the children.

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-Which is great.

-Yeah.

-Fantastic.

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So, a play area for small children and a garden that can be gardened by

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-the older children.

-Yeah. That's it.

-OK.

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But that's not all.

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The garden will have to serve a third purpose, too.

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All this has to be kept for community use.

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Does that mean that the local community's got to have access

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-to the garden?

-Yes.

-Not in school time, but at weekends and evenings.

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-Yeah.

-And how do you think they will use it?

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We're hoping once we've got things, like,

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we're growing our own vegetables and things like that,

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after school, pick your children up and then come and get some salad out

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the garden and take it home.

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With three groups to please,

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there's the vital question of how to pay for it all.

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What sort of budget have you got?

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We've put aside £3,000 of the PTA fund

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to get things going with the hope that we'll get a bit more.

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OK. Let's see some plans.

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-Come on. Lead on.

-Let's go.

-Let's have a look at it.

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Monty's beginning to realise that this is a big community-sized dream.

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But can everyone get what they want?

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The mothers are keen to make the space fun for the youngest children,

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and a place for the older ones to learn,

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so they plan to add five raised beds for veg growing,

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and create both a nature area

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and a herb garden right in the middle of the space.

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To one side of the old decking area,

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they want to create a feature known as a stumpery,

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a kind of rockery but made with tree stumps.

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Now what have we got here? Stumpery!

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-Yes.

-Yes.

-I haven't seen a stumpery made for a while.

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What makes you want to do a stumpery?

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We just thought it was something different

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-that would be nice for the children.

-It's a great idea.

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First get your stumps.

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-Yes.

-We've got some stumps. We've got a selection of logs and stumps.

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-We're very lucky.

-We're not quite clear on whether they're right,

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what we've bought, but we have.

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But Monty thinks their plans

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for other wildlife areas are rather vague.

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Tell me what you envisaged by nature area. What do you mean by it?

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We wanted anything that would attract as much wildlife as possible,

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just for the children to learn from.

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So you're planting specifically for bees and insects?

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-Yes, yes.

-OK. And you're encouraging birds and frogs.

-Yeah.

-OK.

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So Monty cautiously suggests an idea

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that would definitely encourage wildlife.

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If you really want a nature area, what about a pond?

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We did discuss it, but we were worried about the safety aspect

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-with having children playing.

-Well, it is a worry.

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How old are the youngest children, four?

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-Four.

-And they would always be supervised?

-Oh, yeah.

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The real danger for a pond is to toddlers.

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So, how shallow can we get away with in terms of a pond?

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You need a very shallow area.

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I mean, so that the beach starts out the water.

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-Yeah.

-And it's literally just a little bit of water.

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Clearly, you can't take any risks,

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but I think what would be good would be to set the challenges -

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can we make a wildlife friendly pond

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that is also safe for children of four and over?

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Overall, Monty recommends they create bigger,

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more densely planted nature areas,

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and build fewer but larger raised veg beds.

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But most importantly, he suggests they move their herb garden

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from prime position in the middle of the garden

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to make way for a more exciting feature -

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a child-safe wildlife pond.

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-So, happy with that?

-Yes.

-Yeah, really happy.

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Keen not to let go of the country's top gardener just yet,

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the mothers have called in some helpers

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so they can get going right away.

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Monty sets them to work clearing out unwanted features,

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while he turns his attention to the stumpery.

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A stumpery is supposed to be like a rockery, but made with large,

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gnarled tree stumps.

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Plants can be added in the crevices between the stumps,

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and it will soon become a haven for wildlife.

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But have his keen amateurs really got the right basic materials?

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This is just a bundle of fibrous roots.

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That doesn't look like anything.

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-I can't see anything here that I would include in a stumpery.

-OK.

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Oh, dear. That's a blow for the keen community gardeners.

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Luckily, Monty has a new plan.

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We could just build a wall up.

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As you say, like a wooden rockery...

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-Yeah.

-..and plant in the pockets.

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You literally just stack them up like you have and...

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Like a bug hotel. So, animals get in and you can have mice and dormice.

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And then they decompose, and that's really good for fungi,

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it's really good for beetles.

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We could take stuff in and start to work out what it would look like.

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-Do you want to do that?

-Yeah.

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It may end up more of a loggery than a stumpery.

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But who cares? As long as the insects make their new homes here.

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-Yeah.

-I would say the next thing to do is get some logs in.

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See what planting spaces there are, then start planting.

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Monty gets his enthusiastic team to start bringing the biggest logs,

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to create the right sort of wall.

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If you're going to plant,

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this is a perfect sort of naturally formed space.

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-Yeah.

-The whole point of this is a bit of inspiration.

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-Yeah.

-A guide. You get a feeling for what you're after.

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Once the loggery stumpery has taken shape, Monty shows them how to make

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planting pockets using topsoil and compost.

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And it's ready to act as host to any passing bugs.

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It's been a long day, but everyone is left positive and focused.

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It's a very particular project.

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You've got to have educational space,

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you've got to have a playground and a beautiful garden.

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It's got to fulfil a number of quite conflicting demands.

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We've got more of a definite vision now of where we're heading to.

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-Definitely.

-Whereas before it was a bit vague. And now we're quite set

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-on what we're heading for.

-Yeah.

-And how to do it, as well.

-Yeah.

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I have no worries on that account,

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because if anyone can do it, I think they can.

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INDISTINCT CHAT

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Summer has well and truly arrived.

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Carla and Stewart need to learn about the type of plants they could

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include in their tropical garden, so Monty has sent them to visit

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a gardener who's trodden the very same path.

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Hi, Nick.

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20 years ago, Nick, who works in software sales,

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moved into this traditional semi in Leeds.

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Like Carla and Stewart,

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he dreamt of turning his back garden into an exotic paradise.

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The result is impressive.

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Welcome to the jungle garden.

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Wow. Amazing.

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I want to do a jungle garden at our house.

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I mean, it's not as big as this.

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-Where did you start?

-When we moved in, all of this was lawn, all the

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way to the back, and I decided I wanted to do jungle gardening.

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Nick has created zigzagging paths,

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boardwalks and bridges to lead visitors on a jungle journey -

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just as Monty suggested for Carla and Stewart's space.

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Oh, my goodness - water!

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It's a design technique that creates the illusion of a much larger space

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and gives exciting possibilities for positioning,

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and then viewing the best plants.

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Where are we going? This is quite an adventure.

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The garden is packed with well-chosen, big star plants.

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Plants that look exotic, but which are surprisingly hardy.

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What do you think are the ones that are really useful to have,

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to have the colour and the leaves during winter?

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Two really good, fit-and-forget plants.

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The hardiest palm you can get,

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Trachycarpus fortunei, windmill palm.

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-OK.

-Next to it is a plant you might see in many people's gardens,

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which is this strappy one here.

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-Yeah.

-Cordyline.

-Oh.

-Right.

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They'll take frost down to about minus 18.

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Right, OK. That's good to know. Does a fern tree keep its leaf over...?

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Yes, the tree fern does keep it.

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If it's a mild winter, you should be OK with that in London.

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-Yeah.

-The tree ferns will keep their leaves, fronds, in winter, yeah.

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Yeah.

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With 20 years' experience of creating the tropical look

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in a British garden,

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Nick has two plants he thinks are absolute essentials.

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And he has another clever planting trick.

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Most people right now are going for summer bedding.

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-Yeah.

-Petunias, Marigolds, lobelia and that kind of thing.

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For the jungle garden,

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we use things like from the house plant department.

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You see the one with the red flower spathe on the right-hand side?

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-Yeah.

-That's anthurium.

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Better known as a house plant.

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-Yes.

-And then next to that is impatiens New Guinea hybrids,

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the red one.

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They just go to add a sort of a tropical zing every now and again.

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-Completely.

-Yeah.

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Nick explains that he's positioned

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his most dramatic specimens in prime spots.

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Gunnera manicata. It's a real star of the jungle garden.

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-Yeah! It's huge.

-You can walk underneath it.

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-Yeah.

-You get huge leaves.

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This is like the epitome of jungle gardening for me, this plant.

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Monty said it would be an inspirational day,

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but I hadn't expected how inspirational.

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Seeing Nick and experiencing his big dream,

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we've realised just the depth that can be involved,

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-and how much more we can do.

-And how much more ambitious we could be.

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Like, kind of not being too scared of massive plants.

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Their exotic journey is over

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but Carla and Stewart leave with a souvenir -

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a baby Gunnera for their own garden.

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-Oh, thank you so much, Nick.

-OK.

-Amazing. Enjoy your Gunnera.

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-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Spurred on by their visit, Carla and Stewart get straight down to work.

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Fully kitted out for the job in hand,

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they decide it's time to clear their space.

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And that means tackling that spiky tree in the corner.

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We're literally killing it today.

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So I'm not...

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-Or it kills us.

-Yeah, or it can kill us!

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-You OK?

-Yep.

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-Oh!

-God, that was so much bigger than I thought it was.

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-Yeah, that's huge.

-Like Monty said before,

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if we have a small space then we need to make the most of that space.

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So you should get rid of anything

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that is kind of constraining you in that sense.

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So I don't feel too bad.

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Monty's advice has encouraged them to be bold,

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and Carla and Stewart will soon be ready for the next step.

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The gardening mums from St Mary's need inspiration for their new

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community garden come playground.

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So Monty's sent them here, to Sizergh Castle,

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a historic house in the Lake District.

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Sizergh's beautiful and wildlife-rich gardens

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include a pond, a stumpery and a superb kitchen garden.

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A source of fresh ideas for the mums, and fun for the children.

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Wow. It's like our pond.

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Look at that! Hey, guys, look at this pond.

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KIDS CHAT EXCITEDLY

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There's a bird walking on the lily pads!

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-Oh, yeah!

-Oh, that is so cute.

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Monty suggested a pond would attract wildlife and be lots of fun,

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as they're about find out.

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-Hi, guys.

-Hi.

-Hi, Sam!

-Hello.

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-Do you guys want to have a go at pond dipping?

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

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Warden Sam is an expert at pond dipping, and it's his job to help

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the children learn and have fun around Sizergh's pond.

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I got a daddy one and a baby.

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-You did, didn't you?

-I got something!

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Careful with your stick.

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He's just a little one.

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-Did you catch that little one?

-Yeah.

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I catched that big one.

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Oh, yes, I got a pond skater!

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I have no idea what it is.

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-What what is?

-That.

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That's a pond skater, but it's a bit...

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-I think you might have squashed him a little bit.

-I got a pond skater!

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-He might be all right.

-I think it's gone down well.

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I think it's gone down really, really well, yeah.

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The pond dipping is clearly a success,

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and Sam has plenty of tips for the novice gardeners.

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Is there anything we can do to encourage that kind of wildlife into

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-our pond?

-The best way that things are going to get into your pond

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is probably going to be from birds coming in and having maybe eggs

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stuck on their legs, or pooing in the pond, sort of thing.

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So if you can make the rest of your garden like a wildlife haven,

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an incentive for them to come in, everything will happen.

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Sizergh also boasts a magnificent stumpery, and warden Susan

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is keen to show it off.

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This is sort of our take on a stumpery.

0:26:410:26:44

-OK.

-But you can equally, you know, do your own version.

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We have four national collections of hardy fern here.

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So we wanted somewhere to show them off.

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So although it's not a play area,

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we would encourage children to come in and see all the different shapes

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and so on, and wildlife that it attracts.

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So I think just the whole concept of our garden is that we want our children to be

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-able to access every part of it, don't we?

-Yeah.

-So it's not ideal,

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but they are going to climb all over everything.

0:27:070:27:09

We're going to have to just bear that in mind, I think.

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Susan gives them some tips about plants that would survive children

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climbing all over them.

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What you could do there is choose some of the more sort of tough

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and sort of hardy ferns.

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We've got one further up which looks very prehistoric, actually,

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and it's quite tough.

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So if you choose the right plants,

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they should sort of withstand a bit of rough and tumble, let's say.

0:27:290:27:33

I think this has given us the inspiration to go back and look at

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our stump, well, loggery again and...

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It's our version. Like, you know how you got your version?

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Well, brilliant. I mean, that's - for me - what it's all about,

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is giving people inspiration, really.

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This is also a perfect garden to get

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ideas from, for their wildlife planting.

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Can I just ask you what this is?

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Cautleya robusta. It's ginger lily.

0:27:530:27:56

-Right.

-And it would be great, actually, for your plot,

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because it spreads quite readily.

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So it can fill in sort of spaces quite easily.

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Great for butterflies, bees and hoverflies.

0:28:040:28:07

Oh, it would be perfect for the nature area, then, wouldn't it?

0:28:070:28:09

Yeah, it would.

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And the advice comes with a bit extra.

0:28:100:28:12

I'm sure I could pot some up for you.

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-Oh, yeah, thank you.

-Be fabulous.

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All in all, a great day. But who got the most out of it?

0:28:160:28:20

-What do you guys think of pond dipping, then?

-It's really good.

0:28:200:28:23

-Really good?

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-Go on, then, Sam.

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-What do you reckon?

-It's spectacular.

0:28:260:28:28

Spectacular? Flipping heck.

0:28:280:28:30

I think this has made our big dream bigger,

0:28:300:28:33

-in a way.

-Yeah.

-Because we can see more now what's actually achievable,

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what we could get to in the end.

0:28:360:28:39

Our other dreamers in Hackney

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are determined to get their tropical garden under way.

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Although their courtyard is a mere four by five metres,

0:28:500:28:53

Monty suggested they can still create a jungly sense of mystery

0:28:530:28:57

by making a winding path.

0:28:570:28:59

But first, he said they needed to clear the space, so they've chucked

0:28:590:29:04

out everything that doesn't fit their tropical theme.

0:29:040:29:07

They've even painted over the peeling old brickwork,

0:29:070:29:10

just as Monty recommended.

0:29:100:29:12

Next on their list is to invest in some exotic plants.

0:29:120:29:16

It's three weeks since Monty first visited St Mary's community garden,

0:29:220:29:26

and he'll soon be back to inspect progress.

0:29:260:29:29

The gardening team is anxious to see what he thinks.

0:29:290:29:32

I think we have come a long way, but I feel we have and we haven't.

0:29:320:29:35

I don't want him to come and think, "What have you been doing?"

0:29:350:29:38

They've cracked on in several areas,

0:29:380:29:40

including splashing out on a substantial path.

0:29:400:29:43

And encouraged by their experiences at Sizergh,

0:29:450:29:47

they've even made a start on the wildlife pond.

0:29:470:29:50

We've moved the herb garden over, haven't we?

0:29:500:29:53

-Because the central focus now is the pond...

-Yeah.

-..rather than

0:29:530:29:55

the herb garden, which is better,

0:29:550:29:57

-because a herb garden is not really a central focus, is it?

-No.

0:29:570:30:00

It's a bit more exciting for the children to have a pond, isn't it?

0:30:000:30:04

But what everyone wants to know is what will Monty say to all of this?

0:30:040:30:08

Any community project can, if it's not careful,

0:30:080:30:13

become a horse designed by a committee.

0:30:130:30:17

In other words, a camel. And it doesn't quite please anybody,

0:30:170:30:20

because it's trying to please everybody.

0:30:200:30:23

And I wonder to what extent

0:30:230:30:25

this key group of strong women

0:30:250:30:29

are keeping the reins and steering it?

0:30:290:30:32

-Morning!

-Hi!

-Good morning. How are you? Nice to see you.

0:30:330:30:37

One kiss this time, for speed.

0:30:370:30:40

OK, nice to see you. So, what are we doing?

0:30:400:30:42

They have a surprise in store for Monty,

0:30:420:30:45

and Britain's top gardener is about to be tested.

0:30:450:30:48

Why am I standing here like a lemon?

0:30:480:30:50

THEY LAUGH

0:30:500:30:52

Explain to me.

0:30:520:30:53

Because we asked all the children today to bring a plant in

0:30:530:30:56

for the community garden. It could be absolutely anything.

0:30:560:30:59

So we have no idea what's coming up.

0:30:590:31:02

Here they come.

0:31:020:31:04

Best foot forward, everybody, it's plants on parade.

0:31:040:31:08

Look at what we've got there.

0:31:080:31:10

-You've got a chilli.

-Sweet pepper.

-Sweet pepper, I'm sorry.

0:31:100:31:13

-I make mistakes all the time! Rhubarb!

-Wow!

0:31:130:31:18

Inviting plant donations will help to stretch the budget but,

0:31:180:31:22

perhaps more importantly,

0:31:220:31:24

the team is hoping it will encourage the older children to feel more part

0:31:240:31:27

of the garden project.

0:31:270:31:29

You've got a heather. Good.

0:31:290:31:32

This is like an identification parade, isn't it?

0:31:320:31:34

THEY LAUGH There we go.

0:31:340:31:37

More mint. Keep on coming, that's lovely.

0:31:370:31:39

Oregano.

0:31:390:31:41

That's fantastic.

0:31:410:31:43

They will be fine here. In fact, they could stay here for days

0:31:430:31:46

as long as someone watered them occasionally. Shall we get on?

0:31:460:31:49

Because I think it's going to rain. THEY LAUGH

0:31:490:31:51

It's time to get Monty's reaction to the pond.

0:31:530:31:56

There is one problem which I noticed, which is, it's on a slope.

0:31:560:32:02

Yes.

0:32:020:32:04

And water finds a level.

0:32:040:32:06

-Always.

-We kind of forgot about that.

0:32:060:32:10

So that, if the water filled up to the highest point here,

0:32:100:32:13

my guess is that it would hit to about there.

0:32:130:32:15

-Oh, yeah.

-So, why don't I dig a bit, and someone else bring soil in

0:32:150:32:19

-and we'll do it like that?

-Can we use turf?

0:32:190:32:22

Yes, we can use turf.

0:32:220:32:24

Turf would be good. But rather than chuck it, I would place it.

0:32:240:32:29

And with everyone mucking in to help, the problem is soon put right.

0:32:290:32:34

What you need to do is, if we need to fill up, we need to start here...

0:32:340:32:39

-Right.

-..and backfill in,

0:32:390:32:41

because you're going to have a liner over the top of this,

0:32:410:32:45

so if we turn it upside down like that, and like that,

0:32:450:32:50

and we build it up, you start to build up a kind of bank.

0:32:500:32:55

That is dead level.

0:32:590:33:00

-Yay!

-So that's the height.

0:33:000:33:02

Put that bit on that side...

0:33:020:33:04

Monty wants to create a planting shelf within the pond along one side

0:33:040:33:08

before stretching a liner over the whole thing.

0:33:080:33:12

Are we keeping the plants in the pots, not burying them in the soil?

0:33:120:33:15

No, you keep them in the pots.

0:33:150:33:16

Ah, I didn't know that.

0:33:160:33:18

You can bury them in the soil, but the soil's usually too rich.

0:33:180:33:21

-Right, OK.

-And also, where's the soil going to be?

0:33:210:33:24

It's underneath the liner, isn't it?

0:33:240:33:25

-I thought we'd cut a hole in the liner.

-No...

0:33:250:33:28

You cut a hole in the liner... LAUGHTER

0:33:280:33:31

-..where does the water go?

-Yeah, through the hole!

0:33:310:33:33

What a relief to have an expert on board.

0:33:330:33:36

Thank goodness we didn't attempt this on our own!

0:33:360:33:39

Now they need to spread a thin layer of sand to protect the rubberised

0:33:390:33:43

liner from being punctured.

0:33:430:33:46

A liner to a pond, if you imagine you've put on skin-tight rubber...

0:33:460:33:50

Every wrinkle and fold will be revealed!

0:33:500:33:54

Steady, Monty!

0:33:540:33:55

Once it has been seen it cannot be unseen!

0:33:550:33:58

LAUGHTER

0:33:580:34:00

The better we make the preparatory surface,

0:34:000:34:03

the better and the easier it is to put the liner on.

0:34:030:34:06

So, if we put the sand in and then spread it...

0:34:060:34:09

Just spread it evenly out. It only needs to be about an inch thick.

0:34:100:34:14

-That's good.

-And just when it's needed,

0:34:140:34:16

reinforcements arrive to lend a hand.

0:34:160:34:19

Don't scrape it over the ground. Lift it up if you can.

0:34:190:34:23

OK?

0:34:230:34:25

Well done.

0:34:250:34:27

Monty shows them the next step -

0:34:270:34:29

weighing down the liner with stones once it's in just the right place.

0:34:290:34:34

Then it's ready to be filled.

0:34:340:34:36

While that's happening, Monty's sent the children on an errand.

0:34:370:34:42

Monty?

0:34:420:34:43

-We've been down to the river.

-Right.

-Got buckets of water.

0:34:440:34:47

Oh, well done. I think of this as a soup.

0:34:470:34:51

And what you do is, if you add it to that water,

0:34:510:34:53

it then becomes full of life - not life you can see -

0:34:530:34:57

and then gradually that will feed into other life,

0:34:570:34:59

and then we put plants in, that will get richer.

0:34:590:35:01

So, who's going to have the honour of pouring it in? If I just go...

0:35:010:35:05

-Who's that?

-Evie.

0:35:050:35:08

I call this pond Lake Evie.

0:35:080:35:10

Go on.

0:35:100:35:12

I name this pond...

0:35:120:35:14

There you go, go on, pour it in.

0:35:140:35:16

Well done. That's it.

0:35:170:35:19

-It's so heavy.

-OK, I'll give you a hand. Go on. Off you go. You do it.

0:35:190:35:23

It's Lake Evie!

0:35:230:35:25

Well done.

0:35:270:35:29

Now that's got life in it.

0:35:290:35:30

And with the rain adding to the other ingredients,

0:35:300:35:33

everyone stands back and admires the day's work.

0:35:330:35:36

There's a lot to take off the to-do list.

0:35:360:35:39

Look at it. You've got a path,

0:35:390:35:41

a pond full of water, no less, and full of water that's pretty level,

0:35:410:35:45

which is a miracle, given where we started from!

0:35:450:35:48

And you've got fabulous plants.

0:35:480:35:50

So that's great. So when I come back I expect it all to come together.

0:35:500:35:53

He was really positive about everything.

0:35:530:35:55

It's all gone really well.

0:35:550:35:56

And the pond... We clearly couldn't have done the pond without him being

0:35:560:36:00

here today.

0:36:000:36:01

All right, I'm going to wash my hands, get my gear,

0:36:010:36:03

-then I'm on the road. Bye-bye.

-Thank you.

-Bye-bye.

0:36:030:36:06

He's got the same enthusiasm as us, so he kind of like...

0:36:060:36:10

-It's infectious, isn't it?

-Absolutely, yeah.

0:36:100:36:13

Well, we've managed to get quite a lot done today and if they get as

0:36:130:36:17

much pleasure - parents, children and local community alike -

0:36:170:36:20

from the finished product as they seem to be getting from making it,

0:36:200:36:25

then it's going to spread a lot of happiness around.

0:36:250:36:28

It's high summer and the city is bathed in gorgeous sunshine

0:36:360:36:39

and luscious greenery.

0:36:390:36:41

Since his last trip to Hackney more than a month ago,

0:36:420:36:46

Carla and Stewart invested in a stack of plants,

0:36:460:36:49

but which should go where?

0:36:490:36:51

Cue a much-needed visit from their mentor.

0:36:510:36:55

It was clear to me when I left here last time

0:36:550:36:57

that to get the tropical feel that Carla wants,

0:36:570:37:00

they've got to wipe the slate clean. Get rid of the tree. Get rid of

0:37:000:37:03

every trace of English garden and start anew with a completely

0:37:030:37:07

different palette of plants.

0:37:070:37:09

The plant pound is at the front of the bungalow.

0:37:090:37:12

-Oh, you have been shopping.

-Yes.

0:37:120:37:15

How much did that cost?

0:37:150:37:18

£347.

0:37:180:37:20

£347?

0:37:200:37:23

-Yes.

-I think that's quite good value.

-We thought so.

-Yeah.

0:37:230:37:28

Monty approves of their choices,

0:37:280:37:30

but he does spot a problem.

0:37:300:37:33

One immediate thing that would give me cause for alarm is,

0:37:330:37:36

some of these plants I certainly wouldn't dream of growing outside

0:37:360:37:40

-in winter.

-Oh, really?

-Do you have any winter protection lined up?

0:37:400:37:45

Yeah, I guess a lot of fleecing will happen.

0:37:450:37:48

-Yeah, particularly with the banana.

-Hay and straw.

0:37:480:37:51

Fine. That's absolutely fine.

0:37:510:37:53

Good. Right, let's go and put that money to good use.

0:37:530:37:56

So, in no particular order...

0:37:560:37:58

To make every penny work as hard as possible,

0:37:580:38:01

Monty shares his golden rule -

0:38:010:38:03

choose where to place the biggest star plants first before filling in

0:38:030:38:07

with the smaller ones.

0:38:070:38:10

So they're starting with their absolute key plant,

0:38:100:38:13

that long-suffering banana.

0:38:130:38:15

The couple have been arguing about where to place it for nearly a year.

0:38:150:38:20

Can one of you come and help?

0:38:200:38:22

What we have to do is hold this down

0:38:220:38:24

and then I'll try and pull it out.

0:38:240:38:27

-There you go. It's coming.

-Excellent.

0:38:270:38:29

There we go. There we go.

0:38:320:38:35

OK, let's move the pot.

0:38:350:38:38

And you can see...

0:38:380:38:40

every square inch of the pot has been used up for roots.

0:38:400:38:45

-Yeah.

-And this poor thing is wanting to spread its wings.

0:38:450:38:50

Right, where do you want it?

0:38:500:38:52

Probably just where it was.

0:38:520:38:54

Really? Right there?

0:38:540:38:56

When planting anything large,

0:38:560:38:58

Monty's rule of thumb is to dig the hole wide,

0:38:580:39:01

so it can spread its hungry roots.

0:39:010:39:03

And where, like here, the soil is poor, add plenty of nutrition.

0:39:030:39:08

Do you have any manure or compost?

0:39:080:39:13

We've got some compost, yeah.

0:39:130:39:15

With half a bag of compost added and forked in, Monty does the honours.

0:39:150:39:19

That's about the height we want it in.

0:39:190:39:22

Let these roots out a bit.

0:39:220:39:24

If you hold that upright, going to put a little bit more compost

0:39:250:39:28

around it and then we'll push the soil back in.

0:39:280:39:31

-So, essentially, we are using the hole like a container.

-OK.

0:39:350:39:39

As Monty points out, these big plants are going to need looking

0:39:390:39:42

after like pot plants for ever,

0:39:420:39:44

with additional feeding and watering when needed.

0:39:440:39:48

What you want to do is get water down to those roots down the bottom.

0:39:480:39:51

Really give it a drink.

0:39:510:39:52

Next, Monty suggests planting this luscious canna,

0:39:550:39:58

which will soon produce large orangey-yellow flowers.

0:39:580:40:01

Perfect for that hot, tropical look.

0:40:010:40:04

Like bananas, they like moisture,

0:40:040:40:07

they like heat and they like food.

0:40:070:40:10

OK, it's good that they sit next to each other, then.

0:40:100:40:13

Yeah. But, again,

0:40:130:40:14

the more nutrition you give them, the better they'll perform.

0:40:140:40:17

Carla and Stewart are learning that every aspect of their garden

0:40:170:40:21

will need a lot of care if they're to realise their dream.

0:40:210:40:24

I think without Monty we might have rushed ahead with planting stuff

0:40:240:40:28

and I think I can be a bit sort of gung ho with these sorts of things.

0:40:280:40:31

Monty coming in and showing us how to plant and sort of looking at our

0:40:310:40:35

soil and sort of, yeah, coming to the conclusion that it's not very

0:40:350:40:39

good but giving us advice on how we can improve it

0:40:390:40:43

was really, really useful.

0:40:430:40:44

For Carla and Stewart to create the rich, lush, exotic effect they want,

0:40:440:40:51

they do need a rich soil. And they don't have that at the moment.

0:40:510:40:55

That's going to have to come with time

0:40:550:40:58

and lots of mulching, year after year.

0:40:580:41:01

It's the end of August.

0:41:130:41:15

The harvest is underway, and the community of Hawkshaw

0:41:150:41:18

is making use of a spell of good weather to get the project finished

0:41:180:41:21

before Monty's final visit. The pressure is on.

0:41:210:41:26

-All the big things are done, aren't they?

-Yes.

0:41:260:41:28

We're on to the lots of fiddly small things.

0:41:280:41:30

Yeah. A lot of finishing touches to do, really.

0:41:300:41:33

Yeah. We're going to put the fence round the pond.

0:41:330:41:37

Hopefully, we will have time to do it.

0:41:370:41:39

Hopefully!

0:41:390:41:41

This is going to be a busy week, isn't it? But we'll get there.

0:41:410:41:45

Better get cracking, then. Top of the list is to make good use

0:41:460:41:50

of the ginger lily donated by Sizergh,

0:41:500:41:52

something the mums thought would encourage nectar-hungry insects

0:41:520:41:55

into the garden.

0:41:550:41:57

If we try and split it into a few pieces and we spread it around

0:41:570:42:00

the garden, then, then we've not just got one.

0:42:000:42:03

I'm just a bit frightened about splitting it, because the roots

0:42:030:42:06

are all joined together and I obviously don't want to lose it

0:42:060:42:10

cos we do really, really like it.

0:42:100:42:12

It takes guts to chop into the roots like this,

0:42:130:42:16

and Helen's growing confidence as a gardener is clear to see.

0:42:160:42:20

-There we go.

-It's like slicing a cake.

-It is.

0:42:200:42:23

And Jenny's convictions about what to do with their stumpery

0:42:230:42:26

speaks volumes about her budding gardening skills.

0:42:260:42:29

It would be nice to recreate in our own way what we saw at Sizergh,

0:42:300:42:34

in their stumpery, you know, like,

0:42:340:42:36

adding our own things into it that aren't necessarily

0:42:360:42:39

traditional stumpery plants.

0:42:390:42:41

Yeah, I felt quite happy after we'd been to Sizergh

0:42:410:42:45

because, at the end of the day,

0:42:450:42:48

we've sort of made our own version of a stumpery.

0:42:480:42:51

Their self-assurance about their ideas has come a long way.

0:42:510:42:55

Things in Hackney have been moving on as well since Monty last

0:43:030:43:06

lent a hand. But Carla and Stewart's tiny garden still needs

0:43:060:43:10

to make a big leap forward.

0:43:100:43:12

Luckily, sometimes it's not what you know, but who you know.

0:43:120:43:16

Since Monty's been here,

0:43:160:43:18

we have done a bit of planting and then we thought we'd better get some

0:43:180:43:22

paving done, so we had some friends over who were amazing.

0:43:220:43:26

They came over with an angle grinder

0:43:260:43:28

and they just cut them out into some nice curves for us.

0:43:280:43:32

They came to help us, but they ended up doing most of it themselves.

0:43:320:43:35

Now they'll be able to lay the underfoot pebble texture

0:43:350:43:39

that evokes Carla's childhood in the Philippines.

0:43:390:43:41

We've never done anything like this before, so...

0:43:410:43:45

We've been told that we can lay them outside but this is more of

0:43:450:43:48

an experiment, so hopefully it'll work.

0:43:480:43:51

And before long, Monty's back to see how they're getting on.

0:43:510:43:55

I know that Carla and Stewart have wanted to create a lush,

0:43:580:44:03

tropical feel in their garden.

0:44:030:44:05

With the plants they've chosen, I'm sure that will happen.

0:44:050:44:08

But the difference between making a good idea sort of work and creating

0:44:080:44:14

a great garden is attention to detail.

0:44:140:44:17

It can be lush and exuberant

0:44:170:44:19

but every leaf and every part of the garden must be finessed,

0:44:190:44:24

particularly in one as small as theirs.

0:44:240:44:27

Carla and Stewart have spread out to the front of the bungalow,

0:44:280:44:32

where they've been experimenting with one such detail.

0:44:320:44:35

Are orchids something that you have a special interest in?

0:44:350:44:38

Yeah, my mum had an orchid garden when I was little.

0:44:380:44:41

Just stop there, that's really grand.

0:44:410:44:44

"My mum had an orchid garden."

0:44:440:44:46

That's not something you hear every day in the streets of Hackney.

0:44:460:44:49

-No.

-Your mother had hanging orchids?

0:44:490:44:51

-Yeah.

-What were they hanging from?

0:44:510:44:53

They were hanging from dried coconuts.

0:44:530:44:55

-You won't to be able to get dried coconuts?

-Well, actually, we do.

0:44:550:44:59

We tried drying our own coconuts.

0:44:590:45:02

But they ended up coming out a bit wrong.

0:45:020:45:06

Carla's idea is to turn these coconut shells into hanging pots

0:45:060:45:09

for her orchids.

0:45:090:45:11

This is one I made earlier.

0:45:110:45:13

This is like a farcical Blue Peter programme.

0:45:130:45:18

Here you have a lovely orchid. How will you fix them to it?

0:45:180:45:21

-I don't know.

-OK.

0:45:210:45:23

All right, work in progress.

0:45:230:45:25

And how are you hanging them so they don't fall sideways?

0:45:250:45:28

It's completely fine for them to fall sideways.

0:45:280:45:30

OK, good. No, listen, I'll bow to your superior knowledge on this.

0:45:300:45:33

because I've never had even one hanging orchid garden in my life.

0:45:330:45:38

When I think about your garden,

0:45:380:45:40

detail needs to be really precise.

0:45:400:45:43

And this is a really good example

0:45:430:45:46

of the kind of detail I was thinking about, cos that's what you will see.

0:45:460:45:49

Yeah.

0:45:490:45:51

Carla also wants Monty's approval of another key element of her Filipino

0:45:520:45:57

dream garden.

0:45:570:45:59

Now, I don't know what this is.

0:46:010:46:02

It looks to me, it could be a bridge, it could be a path,

0:46:020:46:06

-it could be a building.

-Yeah, a bit of both but not the last.

0:46:060:46:10

-A bridge and a path.

-A bridge and a path.

0:46:100:46:12

-Tell me how you're using it and what you've got to do.

-We want to lay

0:46:120:46:15

this out in the garden and form a kind of pathway through the plants.

0:46:150:46:18

So that's going behind the banana?

0:46:180:46:20

Exactly, it's kind of weaving behind the banana.

0:46:200:46:23

And then next to this path we're going to have some vertical

0:46:230:46:25

structures embedded in the ground

0:46:250:46:27

-and that's what we're thinking of hanging some plants off.

-Yeah.

0:46:270:46:30

Leaving them to finish their jungle hideaway,

0:46:320:46:35

Monty will be back in just a couple more weeks to see the final result.

0:46:350:46:39

In Hawkshaw, it's the last day of the school holidays and time for the

0:46:450:46:48

garden project to be completed before the start of the new term.

0:46:480:46:52

Monty's on his way to see whether the St Mary's team have pulled off

0:46:520:46:56

their ambitious dream.

0:46:560:46:57

But the weather forecast is atrocious.

0:46:570:47:00

This project is unlike any kind of private garden because it has to

0:47:000:47:06

deal and please so many people

0:47:060:47:08

and different kinds of people from the very youngest child at school

0:47:080:47:13

to local people who may have lived here for 80 years or more.

0:47:130:47:18

But no garden could have had more enthusiasm and more goodwill

0:47:180:47:24

poured into it, so let's hope that all that amounts to something

0:47:240:47:28

that is going to please everybody.

0:47:280:47:33

Last time Monty was here was the last day of term

0:47:330:47:36

and there's a lot happened since then.

0:47:360:47:40

It would be so nice if he approves

0:47:400:47:43

of what we've done so far, wouldn't it?

0:47:430:47:45

I think he will. I think he'll be amazed.

0:47:450:47:48

I'm getting excited.

0:47:480:47:50

It's only six weeks since Monty first visited.

0:47:500:47:53

Then, it was a large but underused space with boring features,

0:47:530:47:58

almost devoid of educational or fun value.

0:47:580:48:01

The PTA team have worked a miracle.

0:48:070:48:10

They've transformed it into a colourful,

0:48:100:48:12

fun-packed area that has something for everyone.

0:48:120:48:15

There you are. It's come alive.

0:48:200:48:23

-Yes.

-It is looking fantastic.

0:48:230:48:26

The new path guides visitors on a special journey of discovery,

0:48:260:48:31

from the vegetables in the raised beds to the wildlife in the pond,

0:48:310:48:37

from the bug hotels crawling with guests to their unique take

0:48:370:48:41

on a Victorian stumpery.

0:48:410:48:43

Helen, Jenny and Clare have been

0:48:430:48:46

the ringleaders in putting real life into this one-time blank canvas.

0:48:460:48:50

But they've shared the fun with the whole community.

0:48:500:48:54

-You must have worked very hard.

-We really have.

-We have, yeah.

0:48:580:49:02

-And what do the children think of it?

-They love it, yeah.

0:49:020:49:05

There's something in every little bit that you see little clumps

0:49:050:49:08

of children going, "What's this?" And it's really great.

0:49:080:49:10

Well, there's lots here. I love the signs.

0:49:100:49:14

"Pond rules - one at a time.

0:49:140:49:16

"Don't lean on the rail. Don't squash the frogs."

0:49:160:49:19

And the mosaic, where did that come from?

0:49:190:49:21

That was just buried on the wall here and not really appreciated.

0:49:210:49:25

Right. Let's go back. In the corner was going to be a stumpery.

0:49:250:49:29

-And your stumps were a little bit stumpy, weren't they?

-Yeah...

0:49:290:49:32

-So that's become a...

-Rockery.

-It's really nice.

0:49:320:49:35

I really like that.

0:49:350:49:37

The veg are looking great, cos they started very late.

0:49:370:49:40

Yeah, and we didn't really have much hope for them,

0:49:400:49:43

but we really think they've done well.

0:49:430:49:45

The children are dead excited that it's grown, aren't they?

0:49:450:49:47

They're really excited when they come down and see that it's grown.

0:49:470:49:50

So do people come from the houses round and take stuff?

0:49:500:49:53

Yeah. And parents after school can come down and get something, yeah.

0:49:530:49:57

But the piece de resistance is the wildlife pond,

0:49:570:50:00

something the team would never have dared tackle

0:50:000:50:03

without Monty's encouragement.

0:50:030:50:05

So the children come running over the bridge,

0:50:050:50:08

which is good fun.

0:50:080:50:10

-Do they like it?

-They love it.

0:50:100:50:12

-They think it's... They look for frogs.

-Yeah.

0:50:120:50:16

We were hesitant about the idea of a pond because we thought,

0:50:160:50:18

you know, water and children, it might be difficult,

0:50:180:50:21

but we are really glad we've done it now.

0:50:210:50:23

I think it's added the wow factor to our garden.

0:50:230:50:27

How much have you actually spent?

0:50:270:50:28

To get it to this point, I think about 4,000.

0:50:280:50:32

And, ultimately, it's money well spent. We're happy with it.

0:50:320:50:35

You may not be able to measure it in pounds, shillings and pence

0:50:350:50:38

but you can certainly measure it in the sum of human happiness.

0:50:380:50:40

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

0:50:400:50:42

And what British garden would be complete without one final detail -

0:50:420:50:47

the predicted downpour.

0:50:470:50:49

But not even that has kept the community away.

0:50:490:50:52

The children are so excited about it.

0:50:520:50:54

There's so much learning will go on, with the different plants

0:50:540:50:58

we'll be growing, with the pond, which has already got frogs in it,

0:50:580:51:01

which is just lovely.

0:51:010:51:03

It's great that our children and our friends' children are going to grow

0:51:030:51:06

up and have this all to look forward to.

0:51:060:51:10

From a piece of grass to what we've got now is a credit to everybody

0:51:100:51:15

that's done it.

0:51:150:51:17

It's a wonderful thing and it's been a privilege to watch it

0:51:170:51:20

being made and it's an even greater privilege to declare it open.

0:51:200:51:24

So, I declare this garden open!

0:51:240:51:28

CHEERING

0:51:280:51:33

Fantastic! Very good.

0:51:330:51:36

I applaud you.

0:51:360:51:37

A small group of very dedicated, passionate,

0:51:380:51:43

enthusiastic women have combined to create not just the garden,

0:51:430:51:48

but a complicated one that's fulfilling lots of roles

0:51:480:51:52

and pleasing lots of people.

0:51:520:51:55

When we started, this was our big dream.

0:51:550:51:58

It sparked something within us

0:51:580:52:00

that we didn't think we would be able to do.

0:52:000:52:03

But now we've got even bigger dreams.

0:52:030:52:05

Yeah. We've surpassed what we wanted to do.

0:52:050:52:08

This is a garden that will survive

0:52:080:52:11

any amount of weather or whatever life can throw at it,

0:52:110:52:16

because it's made with real passion,

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and it shines.

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In Hackney, it's the big day.

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How far will Monty think Carla and Stewart have come since their first

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tentative steps as novice gardeners?

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When I first came here and Carla and Stewart explained their dream of

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having a tropical, exotic garden,

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that would remind them of the Philippines, I thought that's

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really interesting but not particularly unusual.

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What fascinates me, and what I want to see now,

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is how they've taken that idea and then personalised it,

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how they've used detail, sometimes quite small detail,

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to make this exotic garden their own.

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When people have asked us what Monty's role is in this project,

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my main answer is that he is our mentor.

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And, as with any mentor, when you actually finish something,

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you really want their approval.

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And he has... What he's seen so far he has liked,

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so a small part of my mind thinks he's going to turn up and hate it,

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but I think that's unlikely,

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-so, yeah, I'm sure it's going to be fine.

-Yeah.

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Less than four months ago,

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Carla and Stewart's tiny back courtyard was a scruffy little box

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with flaking brick walls

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and a large, unloved spiky tree in one corner.

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Now it's been completely transformed into a private, tropical retreat.

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Well, look at it. It's great!

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They've cleanly divided the space into two areas with a bold,

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curving cobbled path creating the sensuous underfoot texture

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Carla craved.

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They've planted a dazzling array of tropical plants including bananas,

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a windmill palm, a Gunnera given to them by Nick, and canna lilies.

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Their home-made bamboo pathways

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and seating evoke a simple Filipino style.

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The hanging frames support the colourful orchids that remind Carla

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of her childhood.

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Now it's time for a full review.

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It feels quirky and slightly odd, which I like. Are you happy with it?

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-Very happy.

-Very happy, yeah.

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I think it's better than what we envisaged.

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What were the key details that you felt made it come alive?

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I think definitely some of the plants,

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like the crested wattle

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really reminds me of the tamarind and maybe the bamboo structures

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and the actual architectural features.

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Your bamboo path, I see has got in.

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-Yes.

-And that's worked.

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-Good.

-And does it work as a path?

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-Yes.

-Yeah, the plants have grown quite a lot into the path,

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so we need to maybe do some trimming.

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And at the last moment,

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Carla has added one special detail that brings back those important

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childhood memories.

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The bag is actually quite personal,

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I think, cos that's something that's really Filipino,

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-having those bags.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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-And that was a last-minute thing yesterday.

-Right, good.

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-And these pebbles as well. That was a big part, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

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So tell me about the budget.

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-How's that gone?

-Well, we initially said £2,000.

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We haven't gone too badly. I think we've spent about 2,200.

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That's reasonable, I think.

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-Yeah.

-Given that you didn't know what you were doing!

-Exactly!

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Actually, it's not unreasonable

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to transform part of your household into a completely new living space,

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-is it?

-Completely.

-And that's what it's become.

-Yes.

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Now they have Monty's seal of approval,

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it's time for family and friends to see what the couple have been up to.

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And amongst them, a familiar face.

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They've done an amazing job.

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It is just full of tropical,

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zingy plants, mad jungly leaves.

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It's brilliant.

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When I came out of their patio door,

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it's not what you expect to see in a small courtyard in Hackney.

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Even Stewart's mum has only seen the garden for the first time.

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So proud of both of them.

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Stewart has never touched a garden in his life,

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so to be able to bring this to fruition is just incredible.

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All that's needed now is for Monty

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to give this tropical courtyard dream an appropriate send-off.

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Right, I think it's time we made this garden official, don't you?

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We shall drink to a future of constant tropical lushness

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and endless pruning! So, cheers.

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-ALL:

-Cheers!

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-What do you want to call this garden?

-The Jungalow.

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The Jungalow, right.

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I christen this garden the Jungalow.

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Oh, yes, look!

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CHEERING

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We're watering it!

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One of the things that I've enjoyed about this is how uncomplicated

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it's been. Carla and Stewart had an idea of what they wanted and,

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with minimal fuss, they've just set about making it happen,

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even though they've had to learn a lot along the way,

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and I suspect they're going to enjoy it with the same lack of fuss.

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They've got a new hobby, quite a serious hobby, which is gardening.

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And I know that is something that's lifelong,

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so that's kind of a great thing.

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I think I feel a bit sad because it's the end of the process, well,

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this part of the process, that we both really enjoyed kind of the

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different steps and learning different things about the plants,

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but I guess that's not going to come to an end.

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-No.

-We should try not to be too sad.

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