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I am 3,560 feet above sea level.

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On a clear day, I could see all four countries of the UK from up here!

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On a clear day!

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But not today. Find out where I am in just a moment on Escape to the Country.

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Today, I'll be helping a couple gallop over the Welsh border and find a homestead in the country.

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But what they're after could be a tall order!

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There he is! He's in.

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A cork in a bottle.

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But then we give them more than they ever expected.

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I'll get my cheque book!

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I was hoping it wouldn't be shrouded in cloud,

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but that is the mighty peak of Yr Wyddfa, or Snowdon, as it's known in English.

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It's right here in the middle of the Snowdonia National Park

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which, rain or shine, is one of the most beautiful bits of the UK.

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It's certainly a highlight in North Wales, which is a good job, as that's where we're looking today.

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Spanning six counties, including the island of Anglesey,

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North Wales offers up stunning scenery.

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From the coastline of historic Conwy,

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fortified by King Edward I in the 13th century,

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to over 820 square miles of mountains, forests and lakes

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that make up the Snowdonia National Park.

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Throughout the centuries, man has made his mark on this epic and timeless landscape.

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Since opening in 1896, the Snowdon mountain railway now carries up to 1,000 passengers a day

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to the top of the mountain.

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And local pride is strong amongst the 26,000 people

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who live within the Park's borders,

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with over 65% of people using the Welsh language.

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North Wales buildings speak of the area's mining past,

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with the local slate and limestone being a defining feature of its properties.

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A detached house in North Wales costs about £185,000.

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That's £75,000 less than the national average.

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But lower house prices are not the only reason to come here

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because the Welsh National Assembly is making a concerted effort to invest in the north

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including a brand-new government building in Llandudno

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and £27 million invested in the transport network.

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That's not a bad thing.

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And there are some fabulous properties to invest in, too.

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For £535,000, this converted four-bed water mill near Bethesda

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uses traditional materials outside and in,

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combining Welsh slate flooring with a light, modern interior.

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Or there's this 200-year-old chapel conversion, priced at £349,000.

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With its original arched windows, the superb open-plan interior

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has a light, bright, welcoming feel.

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Along with three bedrooms, there are outstanding views over Snowdonia.

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On the market for £250,000

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this three-bed cottage near Ithyn

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has character beams throughout its spacious reception rooms.

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Outside, the pretty, cottage-style garden

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offers up great views over the Vale of Clwyd.

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As you can see, North Wales has some of the most spectacular countryside in the UK

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and with properties to match, it's the perfect place to start the good life.

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Will it be good enough for our couple today?

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Mark and Dawn, along with their three young daughters,

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have lived in their four-bedroomed detached property in the suburbs of Manchester for four years.

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But despite all the home improvements,

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they're now after the ideal location that will give their family space to grow.

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I grew up in the country.

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Just being able to run free and have horses and play tennis,

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the roads were really quiet and safe.

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I was so lucky to grow up like that

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and it would be fantastic if they could do that as well.

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Dawn can continue managing the accounts for her family's business from home,

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but Mark's work as an engineer takes him to London during the week, so he has big plans for family weekends.

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Hopefully, when we move to the country, we can expand on the sports and hobbies we already have.

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I like walking, so to have Snowdonia ten minutes' away would be fantastic.

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Pick my bag up and go. Katie is desperate for a quad bike

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so we'll end up with two quad bikes and two ponies, cos you love horses.

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Our youngest, Lucy, is obsessed with horses.

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So I'll teach her to ride and then I'll get myself one again and get back into it.

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I haven't rode for about ten years and I'm really missing it.

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So that's my main ambition.

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It may seem a romantic notion,

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but there are practical reasons for the location and timing.

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It's now or never because our oldest is coming up to changing to secondary school,

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and she's going to have to start working hard, no disruptions.

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-The youngest is just starting reception.

-In September.

-Now's the time to move and get settled

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before they move schools.

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We decided on North Wales because it's not too far from family and friends here.

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North Wales we've got the coast and the train line.

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For my commute to work, the train is very important.

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I can be on the train and in the centre of London in a couple of hours.

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The location fits the bill, but what are they looking for in their ideal country home?

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A detached house, three, maybe four bedrooms.

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-Two reception rooms. That works for us.

-One for the kids, one for us!

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-And a nice big kitchen.

-Yeah, we love the kitchen.

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-We love to socialise in the kitchen.

-I'd like high ceilings as well.

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The size of me we need high ceilings. And two bathrooms, with four girls in the house!

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-A log-burning fire.

-Yeah, open fires.

-That epitomises the countryside, a log-burning fire.

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-A winter's night with the fire roaring.

-Yeah.

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But it's not the house that's going to swing it.

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-A must for me is the land and the outbuildings.

-That's what the move's about.

-Definitely.

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Enough land for the ponies and the kids to play, the quad bikes.

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-We'd be happy with a three-bed house if there's room to extend.

-Yeah.

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With their house already on the market for £415,000,

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how much do they have to spend on the move?

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The maximum budget for our move is £450,000.

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Mark and Dawn are swapping their Mancunian roots for a slice of countryside

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so their daughters can have a childhood to relish.

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They want to transport their four-bed house in Manchester

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out into two acres of lovely land and outbuildings

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and that's not impossible in North Wales.

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They have a budget of £450,000, which is a healthy one,

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so fingers crossed.

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So that Mark's weekly commute to London is as painless as possible,

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we'll be basing our house search within easy access of main train stations,

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such as Conwy and Wrexham.

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I'll be showing three prime properties in the area

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which we hope will fit the bill, but I won't reveal the price until they've had a guess.

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And we'll try to unbridle them from their preconceptions with our mystery house.

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-Welcome to Wales, guys.

-Hi.

-It's a bid damp for summer.

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But you can't have everything. The forecast is good for our house-hunting.

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-Why North Wales?

-I spent my holidays as a kid in Wales

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so I was drawn to it and talked Dawn into it.

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How big a component of the move is the land?

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It's a major part. The main reason. The only reason, really, for me.

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-Really?

-Get some animals, get outside for the children.

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Let's talk money. What's the absolute pain limit of your budget?

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-We've said 450,000 for everything that would need to be done.

-Right.

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-We need some money left over for the extras.

-Extras?

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Chickens, ponies, quad bikes.

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Ponies? Wow! That halves your budget instantly!

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-So 450, but if you needed to do work, it would have to be less than that.

-Yes.

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OK. It's a good budget. But have your compromise hat on, just in case! Let's go.

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Mark and Dawn's £450,000 budget needs to include any work they'd have to do.

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But the essentials for their ideal property are...

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-In terms of planning this, have you been dreaming about it for a long time?

-Yeah.

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-I'd say this has been about eight years.

-Yeah.

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We didn't think the children would be up for it, really, did we?

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-No.

-We thought if we suggested it they'd be heartbroken and upset.

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When we come back from our friends' in South Wales, we say, "Wouldn't it be lovely to move to Wales?"

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This time, they went, "Yeah, brilliant." So I went, "Right, that's it. We're moving!"

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We're kicking off our property search in Denbighshire,

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just outside the village of Cyffylliog, a 40-minute drive from Wrexham train station

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for Mark's commute to London.

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Set in a pretty, rural location,

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there's a primary school for the girls, and five miles away, the market town of Ruthin

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serves up a secondary school and a charming array of independent shops.

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'So let's see what they make of our first property which started life as a dairy farm in the 1700s.'

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-Wow, it's beautiful.

-Yeah, it looks lovely.

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-It's a stunner, isn't it?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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This is a really lovely Welsh cottage, incredibly well situated.

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Amazing views down the valley. Lots of land which we'll explore.

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The front part is actually the newer part, from the 19th century.

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The back is from the 18th century. So it's a listed building.

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-Right.

-OK.

-But you'll see inside they've done a lot of work to it.

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'They seem impressed by the historic charm of the outside.

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'Let's hope we can build on that when we see inside.'

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Come on in.

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This is the 19th-century part of the house. The front of the house has higher ceilings

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and yes, no headroom issues with you, Mark. That's good.

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Lovely big windows in two directions. Dual aspect.

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You can see this is the blue stone here, it's been limed, around the fireplace.

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-And a log burner.

-Hooray!

-I like that. This is my room.

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-Well, you've got log burners everywhere, so no need to fight!

-OK.

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I know you wanted two spaces. One for the kids and one for you. It does have two sitting rooms.

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Let's look at all the rest.

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-I'd be tempted to have this room as your room!

-Wow! It's massive!

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I like that.

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-You wanted a log burner. That's a proper one!

-That's a real fireplace.

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-I like that.

-It's an amazing beam.

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-I really like that.

-He's touching the beam. That's a good sign!

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Stroking things.

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So we're going into the older part.

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In the olden days, Mark, people were short!

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-They were little.

-Right, OK.

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So it's through into the kitchen. A bit lower.

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-Right. I'll keep out of the kitchen!

-Exactly. Send the girls to get your food!

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-Mind your head!

-This is nice and big.

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Oh, no!

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Step forward.

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You can actually stand up. You don't have to crick your neck. Stay between the gaps.

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What a lovely big room!

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They've done a beautiful job of combining... These are the outhouses.

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There's the old bread oven where the range is.

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-Ah, yes.

-They've absorbed all these outbuildings and made it into one big space.

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There's a beautiful walk-in larder there with a double Belfast sink.

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-This has all been done in the last couple of years.

-Nice block.

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Wooden work surfaces. Another deep sink there.

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-In terms of your head...

-That's the only stumbling block. The size of it

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is great. The little room with the table, I really like that.

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But I'm really struggling with the head height.

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-It's even lower at the other end.

-No high heels for you!

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I mean, the one option, it's an expensive one, I won't hide the fact, is to lower the floor.

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You dig out the floor and maybe put in underfloor heating,

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so you step down into this area. But it would be a huge job.

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-Yeah.

-And expensive.

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Let's look at the dining room.

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This used to be the cow barn.

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That window was the food chute where they threw in their food.

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We could feed the kids like that!

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There's lots of space downstairs. Is it enough for you and the girls?

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As long as it's got land outside, it'll be fine.

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-It's got land outside.

-Hooray.

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Could be worse. The ceiling height is something I'd have to get used to.

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-You'd have to be careful.

-But I could live with that.

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-What about upstairs?

-We shall see.

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'Well, they won't have to lower their expectations of upstairs

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'as there are the four bedrooms they wanted.

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'Although Mark might have to duck!'

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This is going to be very funny when Mark comes in.

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There he is, he's in.

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A cork in a bottle.

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This is the master bedroom. There are two rooms in the front which are quite grand.

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-This is the master because it's got an en-suite shower room.

-It's very pretty.

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-It's big enough. Love the ceiling height.

-High ceilings.

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It's unusual in a period cottage to have high ceilings upstairs. Both have got cast-iron fireplaces.

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-They're decorative.

-Nice feature. I like that.

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-Nice, deep windows.

-Yeah.

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Next door to the master bedroom is a lovely light double room

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and leading off the landing, the smallest bedroom currently serves as a study

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with a bright, modern family bathroom next door.

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And Mark should think highly of the following bedroom.

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This room is a nice surprise to the back. This was the hayloft.

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Very high ceilings and this lovely hayloft door with steps down into the garden.

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So four bedrooms. All in really good nick. You could move in tomorrow

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and not have to do anything. How does this feel?

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There's a lot more space than I thought there'd be. More roomy.

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It's a lot bigger than I imagined.

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The historic charm and space this house offers seems to have hit the spot.

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But as we know from Dawn, it's all about the land outside.

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The adjacent stone outbuilding doesn't come with the property.

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But it's used for lambing by the neighbouring farmer so it'll no doubt keep the girls amused!

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But can we deliver on the land?

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Tell me again what you want to do in your land?

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With the girls, what are you going to be doing?

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-For me, ponies, horses, quad bikes.

-Quad bikes...

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-Some chickens.

-Chickens.

-A goat was mentioned.

-Goat.

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Basically, you've got the formal gardens and you've got this L-shaped paddock

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that wraps all the way round, all the way down to the road.

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-OK.

-OK.

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So in total, the plot is two acres.

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-What do you think?

-I think we'd have to put stables possibly down there.

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There are hard footings with water and electricity.

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-There's potential...

-There's a base there. It's whether the land is enough for a horse and a pony.

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-It's incredible. Look at the views.

-It's beautiful.

-The views.

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The hills, and unspoilt countryside all around you.

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How much do you think it's on the market for?

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Probably 430.

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-430,000.

-I'll go 440, then. Just to be different.

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-440?

-440.

-Split the difference and you'd be spot on.

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It's on at 435.

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Oh!

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-So it's under your budget.

-Yeah.

-There's 15 grand to play with.

-Build the stables.

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So I think this is an absolutely corking place.

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-Yeah.

-It does work.

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Have a wander round.

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-OK.

-Have a look inside, go round the grounds,

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see of it'll work with you and the girls.

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-I'll meet you at the porch and we'll push on.

-OK. Thank you.

-Excellent.

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Under budget at £435,000,

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this spacious character cottage would require no work

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and answers many of the demands on their wish list.

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-I really like this kitchen.

-It's beautiful.

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-I'm just struggling with the head height.

-Yeah. It's a shame.

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Every time I come I'll bang my head, when I go out I'll bang my head, and walking across, I'll bang my head!

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I was really surprised at how modern it was. It's a lot bigger than it appears from the outside.

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I think Dawn loves the house. I can see her being happy while I'm away.

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The kids being happy.

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I think Dawn's only concern is the outside space.

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This will be a hard act to follow.

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-Are you ready?

-Yes.

-Yes.

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-I won't ask your thoughts on this. I'll drag you onwards.

-Let's go.

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The Snowdonia National Park offers up swathes of glorious mountainous terrain

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which has shaped its villages and towns.

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Acting as gateway to this area, Betws-y-Coed shed its image as a lead-mining town,

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flourishing from the early 1900s as a fashionable Victorian resort,

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inspiring the likes of landscape painters such as J.M.W.Turner.

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Although it's now a busy tourist destination for climbers and day trippers,

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its traditional architecture remains intact

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although the boom years did impact heavily on its oldest building,

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St Michael's church.

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Earlier in the week, Mark and Dawn met the chairman of the St Michael's Trust, Jim Bowton,

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to find out more about this humble gem.

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Welcome to Betws-y-Coed and St Michael's church in particular.

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Betws-y-Coed means "the bead-house in the wood".

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That's the literal translation, a prayer house,

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and St Michael's is, in effect, that chapel.

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This building is 14th century.

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It's built on the site of a much earlier chapel.

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The interior is very plain and simple.

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But there is the stone effigy of Gruffydd ap Dafydd Goch,

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who is related to the last native Prince of Wales, Llewellyn.

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It has a special place very much in our hearts.

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After 140 years of neglect,

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the Friends Committee has raised £130,000 to restore it to its former glory.

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Following in the footsteps of the Victorians, many of today's visitors, including Mark and Dawn,

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come with a lust for outdoor adventure.

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So, with that in mind, we've arranged for them to indulge in a spot of canoeing near Bala

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under the watchful eye of instructor Andy Butler,

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who's going to teach them the basics.

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We often call these divorce boats.

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When married couples get in, they're always blaming each other

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and end up getting divorced!

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Let's see if teamwork reigns, or if someone's rocking the boat!

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-You're not even paddling!

-Steering's far more important!

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Over 30,000 people take to these waters every year to enjoy the rapids,

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which fortunately are graded, ranging from a class one ripple

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to a class six, known as danger to life and limb!

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But it's not as easy as it looks to navigate.

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That wasn't meant to happen!

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With over five miles of river to explore here,

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it's a huge outdoor playground

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that's sure to keep the family busy.

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We continue our property search with land at the top of the agenda,

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crossing over the Conwy border to the village of Groes.

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Although there are no amenities, a ten-minute drive would bring them to Llansannan,

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home to this striking statue by a student of Rodin, William Goscombe John,

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and the church of St Sannan.

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Set in rural seclusion outside of Llansannan, our second property certainly makes a statement.

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I'm excited about how you'll react to this one.

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-Wow!

-Hah!

-It is a whole chunk of property.

-Yes!

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We can't afford this!

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We're thinking, "OK, pull out all the stops. Let's go big."

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It's definitely big!

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What's lovely about this property is this property has land.

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-Brilliant.

-Excellent.

-I want to show you the land first.

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-Let's go.

-'And they'd better brace themselves for a big surprise!'

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-Climbing boots on.

-Yeah!

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-All-righty!

-I'm thinking we need a lawnmower, a sit-on.

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You'll need more than a sit-on lawnmower! You'd need a tractor!

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I'm getting my cheque book.

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Because your land is this field, that field, and the field beyond.

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-Nine and a half acres!

-You're kidding!

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Ker-ching!

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It's brilliant for the bikes, though. Quad bikes on here!

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-Look at the view!

-Yeah.

-View's fantastic.

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The girls could just run and run and run and ride and ride and ride!

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-Brilliant.

-It's not listed, but it's a historic property.

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I'll warn you now, you'll probably want to do some work in there.

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-It's not as pretty as the first house.

-OK.

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-Just preparing you! Let's have a look.

-OK.

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'Now that we've sweetened them up with a huge amount of land on offer,

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'let's see if they can get creative with the living spaces inside these fabulous stone walls.'

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This is the second sitting room.

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Not the only sitting room. Thing is, a lady's lived here for 11 years

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and it's beautifully maintained. We need to think about the size of the rooms

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-and whether they'd work for you and the girls.

-OK.

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I think you'd have to remodel it a bit to make it work for you.

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I'll show you.

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-Your girls like pink, cos they'll love this kitchen!

-Wow.

-That's pink!

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It's pink, isn't it? Pink draining board.

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-Pink everything!

-Pink salt and pepper mill.

-Pink fish!

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Pink fish! You knew!

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But this is where the remodelling comes in. This was great for the two of them,

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but not for you and the girls.

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But...

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you've got this room which is inadequate to your needs,

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and then next door...

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..you've got this room, which is a formal dining room.

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So I was thinking you have to work within the walls of this property.

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-There are some very, very thick walls.

-OK.

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You take out all that space up to the very thick outside wall, where that arch is.

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And make it one big kitchen/diner.

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-It would be a nice big kitchen.

-That would work for us.

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What do you think? That's quite a bit of remodelling.

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-Structural changes. It's not listed.

-It would depend on the price.

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Right. There's the biggest room at the end here.

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You see, this is a big room.

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-Wow.

-High beams.

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-Fire's gorgeous. Lovely.

-A giant fire.

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It's a beautiful room.

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This would be your main sitting room. What do you think?

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It's really nice. Sound.

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-A sound property.

-Yeah.

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Let's have a peek upstairs.

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'It's great that they're so positive about seeing past the decor and layout of downstairs.

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'Upstairs, there are four bedrooms.'

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The bedrooms are pretty big.

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This is the master. Mind the beam. This beam would catch anybody.

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This is the master because it's got an en-suite.

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-Nice one.

-But I was thinking, you said two of the girls wanted to share a room.

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-They'd quite like to.

-With their own bathroom.

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-What do you think?

-I really like this room.

-It's a good space.

-Unusual.

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That doesn't bother me at all. That's a feature, part of the house.

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And I thought this room would be OK for you guys.

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It doesn't have an en-suite.

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It's big enough, though.

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If the kids have got an en-suite down that end, it doesn't bother me.

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-As long as there's two bathrooms.

-Dawn, you're not convinced!

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I'm thinking of wardrobe space.

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-Right.

-You'll have to leave your clothes in London!

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There is a little bit of an issue about storage.

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You have these two big rooms

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and two quite small rooms.

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-Yeah.

-And the family bathroom.

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The third bedroom is a light single, perfect for their other daughter,

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with the fourth currently set up as a study.

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There's also a spacious family bathroom.

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With the interior of the house covered,

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let's survey the fantastic setting of this farmhouse

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and contemplate the price.

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From here, you get a better view of the house. We saw a bit from the other side.

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But you couldn't see the house in the dip. It's really wrapped around on all sides.

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-It's good, that.

-How much is it on the market for?

-I think top end of our budget. I think 450.

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I think it's more, to be honest.

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Definitely more than 450. I'd like to say under, but...

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-Around 450?

-Yeah. Why not?

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It's actually on the market for... Get this - £400,000.

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Ooh!

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You would have 50 grand to play with if you moved here,

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-as well as nine whole acres of lovely land!

-Gobsmacked.

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Oh, my word! Brilliant!

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Have a wander round. Inside is where you need to scratch your head most.

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Explore, but it'll take ages to explore nine acres! So I might be ruthless and get you back.

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-I'll whistle!

-OK!

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Under budget at £400,000,

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there's a generous £50,000 pot left over for work on the house,

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which has real potential.

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Schools are in nearby Denbigh for the girls,

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and Rhyl's mainline station for Mark's commute to London.

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When we first came into the house, there's a fair bit of work needed to bring it to the way we'd like it.

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But that doesn't put me off.

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I think this house and land would really work for Mark.

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He says he doesn't need much, but his face lit up when he saw all the acres!

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He actually does want quite a lot of land.

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He wants to be the farmer!

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Might have to get some sheep.

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To keep the grass down!

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Like Animal Farm.

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Quite an impressive drive you have here.

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-Yes.

-On your North Wales estate!

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-Yes.

-With your four paddocks!

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Are you happy?

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-Very.

-Very, yeah.

-Glad we came?

-Yeah, definitely.

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-Excellent.

-Beautiful.

-It's been a big day,

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-so let's have a little quiet time.

-OK.

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As the sun sets over the Welsh countryside,

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it marks the end of our property search.

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Armed with a £450,000 budget,

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Mark and Dawn want to swap this for a huge slice of this!

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So far, we've shown them two properties,

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one of which they really warmed to with the space they wanted for their daughters

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and their horses.

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Let's hope they don't bolt when they see our mystery house!

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Amazing views!

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And I seek out tea and sympathy with these pioneering ladies!

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-It's so easy!

-Hooray!

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Yesterday went really well. Mark was so enamoured of the house with all the land.

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He talked about "his" nine acres, which is a good sign.

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So I could rest on my laurels.

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But look at all this. When you've got this much North Welsh beauty to explore,

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you can't rest on your laurels. You've got to push further.

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So, for the mystery house, we're going to add extra value - equestrian opportunities.

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Our mystery property takes us to Moelfre,

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a hillside retreat with a scattering of rural properties.

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Four miles away, the coastal town of Abergele has that useful primary school

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and serves up all the amenities including a train station,

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with the fairytale Gwrych Castle overlooking the town.

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Our mystery house is all about housing the horses and complete rural seclusion,

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with glorious views down the Elwy Valley,

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which I hope will take their breath away.

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Now this is what I call North Wales!

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-Wow!

-Wo-hoh!

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We've come a bit further north and a bit further west.

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We're a bit further away from Sale.

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But that's a good thing. This is why this is the mystery house

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because you're still quite tied to your job, to your job in London.

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I'm wanting you to get bewitched by the view, by the house,

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and by the...

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..horses. The secret ingredient of the mystery house is horses.

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-We'll look at those later. What about the house?

-Amazing views. Amazing house.

-Breathtaking.

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What's nice is this house really takes advantage of the views.

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-Yes.

-Let's look inside.

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'You can't ask for a better first reaction than that.

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'I hope the high spirits continue inside.'

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Ta-da! Straight into a nice big entrance porch.

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Slate floors.

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And then into the sitting room.

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-What do you think?

-It's really big. Brill.

-Nice high ceilings!

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Nice high ceilings. No banging your head at all.

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In many ways, it's similar looking to the last property we saw.

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It's got a big fireplace with a beam above and a log burner.

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-And the beams above. But everything is lighter and bigger.

-Yeah.

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The thing about this house, the layout is very simple.

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Three big rooms on this floor and this magnificent conservatory.

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I think this is a magic space because you're indoors, but you've got views all around you.

0:31:080:31:14

Yeah.

0:31:140:31:16

Fantastic space, this.

0:31:160:31:17

It's beautiful. Gosh!

0:31:170:31:20

-Can you imagine the girls in here, doing their homework?

-Oh, yes.

0:31:200:31:24

'And the living areas just keep on going.'

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Next to that big sitting room, a smaller room. Quite flexible what you do with them.

0:31:290:31:34

This would be nice for the girls, wouldn't it?

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So I feel a bit of a dip of enthusiasm. Is that the case?

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I don't know. As soon as we came out of there into this room, I just sort of dipped.

0:31:410:31:46

It's like haunted. It's an enthusiasm dump!

0:31:460:31:51

-Sucking all the energy out of you. Quick, let's go to the kitchen.

-Run!

0:31:510:31:55

Wonder what you'll think in here?

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-It's a big size.

-It's nice and big.

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-Ceilings are good.

-It is a continuation of the 1980s extension,

0:32:020:32:07

so how's your enthusiasm? Air levels?

0:32:070:32:10

-Coming back up?

-Yes, they are a little bit, yeah.

0:32:100:32:13

-I'm inspired again now.

-Little dip?

-Yeah.

0:32:130:32:16

-Back up.

-The thing about this property is it has good bones

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simply by virtue of where it's located.

0:32:200:32:23

Let's look upstairs.

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'We had a wobbly moment there,

0:32:250:32:27

'but the downstairs of our mystery property is a light, blank canvas

0:32:270:32:31

'with big living spaces that easily flow into one another.

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'Upstairs, the four bedrooms are a generous size, too.'

0:32:350:32:39

Nice and bright. This is the girls' room. Two girls in here.

0:32:390:32:43

-It's bigger than I expected.

-Yeah.

-It's really big.

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It's a big, bright upstairs room.

0:32:460:32:48

'Next up, we'll check out where they would sleep.'

0:32:480:32:51

-This is the master bedroom.

-It's a good-sized room.

0:32:510:32:54

-Yes. Nice to have an en-suite.

-An en-suite, yes.

0:32:540:32:58

-It's a bit '80s.

-But look at the views!

-It's still '80s now.

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-Look at the views!

-Can't fault the views. By far the best views.

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But on a rainy day in December, when I'm sat inside, I'd be struggling.

0:33:060:33:10

Let's go outside and cheer you up!

0:33:100:33:12

Their third daughter can take her pick from the other two bedrooms,

0:33:150:33:19

one a bright single or another large enough to be a double.

0:33:190:33:22

No doubt the girls will be delighted by the family bathroom, fit for a pink princess!

0:33:220:33:28

Mark and Dawn are finding it hard to see past the decor and style of the inside,

0:33:280:33:33

although the room sizes and ceiling heights really measure up.

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But they were euphoric about the location.

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Outside, they should be delighted by the six acres with its very own manege.

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Plus four stables and a tack room.

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So lots of space for humans and horses alike.

0:33:480:33:51

But at what cost?

0:33:510:33:53

A big equestrian property

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with space for lots of horses.

0:33:550:33:57

Amazing views. What do you think the market price is?

0:33:570:34:00

I think about 465,000.

0:34:000:34:03

-Dawn?

-Do you? Probably because of the work to be done inside,

0:34:040:34:09

I think less. 450, maybe?

0:34:090:34:12

-450.

-Maybe.

0:34:120:34:13

I'm afraid in this instance, Mark was right.

0:34:130:34:16

It's considerably over your budget. It's on at 475.

0:34:160:34:20

-I think if the house was more...

-Characterful.

0:34:200:34:23

Yes, more character towards our tastes, or we could make it the way we liked,

0:34:230:34:27

I would definitely put a cheeky offer in.

0:34:270:34:29

-Yeah.

-See how it went.

-The view is fantastic.

0:34:290:34:32

Do have a wander around. There's more to look at.

0:34:320:34:35

Wander round, peek your head in the house again.

0:34:350:34:37

-I'll see you at the front.

-OK. Thanks.

0:34:370:34:40

Our mystery property is £25,000 over budget at £475,000.

0:34:440:34:49

But it's a stark reminder that finding a spacious family home

0:34:490:34:53

with enough land and outbuildings for horses is a challenge.

0:34:530:34:57

Something might have to give.

0:34:570:34:59

We've had a reality check in the last couple of days.

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Yeah. I really thought that it would be the land and outside that would be more important than the house.

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But coming round here,

0:35:280:35:30

I've realised I actually do want the nice house as well as the land.

0:35:300:35:36

-Yeah. We need to find a good balance between the two.

-Yeah.

0:35:360:35:39

It's opened my eyes to the way we're looking at things.

0:35:390:35:42

When I walked down the drive, I was blown away.

0:35:420:35:45

The mystery house, absolutely stunning.

0:35:450:35:48

So pretty and the views are amazing.

0:35:480:35:51

I had a look over the fence and saw the menage and stables

0:35:510:35:54

and thought, "Yes, this is the one!"

0:35:540:35:57

The lounge I loved. I liked the beams and the fireplace was gorgeous.

0:35:570:36:02

But then everything else from that point on unfortunately lacked character.

0:36:020:36:07

-All done?

-Yep.

-All looked?

-Yes.

0:36:070:36:10

-Right, let's go and discuss these properties.

-OK.

0:36:100:36:14

North Wales doesn't do things by halves.

0:36:230:36:26

It lays claim not only to this country's largest national park, Snowdonia,

0:36:260:36:31

but it was here that the largest voluntary organisation for women was born.

0:36:310:36:36

History was made when in 1915 in Llanfairpwll,

0:36:360:36:40

the first UK women's institute was founded.

0:36:400:36:42

Formed to encourage women to get involved in food production during World War I,

0:36:420:36:48

today it has over 200,000 members.

0:36:480:36:51

I'm meeting Audrey Jones, chair of the Anglesey Federation,

0:36:510:36:55

to find out about its history and how it's still relevant today.

0:36:550:37:00

-Hello, ladies.

-ALL: Hello!

0:37:000:37:02

I see you've made some tea!

0:37:020:37:04

Yes, we've got to have tea and scones.

0:37:040:37:06

I thought this was the image you wanted to get away from!

0:37:060:37:09

-It is, but we've got to eat!

-Shouldn't you be drinking cocktails?

0:37:090:37:13

We've got some Buck's Fizz for the evening.

0:37:130:37:16

Buck's Fizz! You've got celebrations coming up. In 2015, you'll be 100 years old.

0:37:160:37:21

Everybody must remember that it is this branch's birthday - Llanfairpwll.

0:37:210:37:26

-That's what's important.

-I hope you'll be celebrating with cake and scones.

-We've got to have scones.

0:37:260:37:33

But the tea and cake are a foil for the huge amount of national campaigning

0:37:330:37:38

the WI does.

0:37:380:37:40

The 500 Welsh foundations also get involved on a local level,

0:37:400:37:43

teaching cooking skills to young parents,

0:37:430:37:46

helping schools' gardening projects,

0:37:460:37:48

and teaching crafts,

0:37:480:37:50

one of the staple skills of which being knitting.

0:37:500:37:53

I'm performing under pressure cos you're all watching!

0:37:530:37:56

It's much easier with big needles. You're not holding the needle.

0:37:560:38:00

Put the needle into that stitch, the same way.

0:38:000:38:03

-Perfect!

-It's so easy!

-Hooray!

0:38:030:38:06

I'm being applauded by the founding women's institute!

0:38:060:38:09

Historically, the zeal for being part of the original federation

0:38:090:38:14

has filtered down through generations,

0:38:140:38:17

as this photo of Gweno Williams' grandmother, taken in the 1920s, shows.

0:38:170:38:21

Which one's your grandmother?

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She's that one with the slight moustache!

0:38:230:38:26

-Showing her ankles as well.

-She is.

-Racy!

0:38:270:38:30

She had four daughters, so she was quite up to date!

0:38:300:38:33

So it's had a big influence in lobbying for women's rights.

0:38:330:38:36

Are you hopeful about the way it's going? Are you pleased with how the WI is shaping up?

0:38:360:38:41

I think so. Not perhaps our WI because we're most of us retired now.

0:38:410:38:47

But we have an evening WI, which is flourishing.

0:38:470:38:50

Presumably by the time it's 100 years old, they'll have taken over from us.

0:38:500:38:55

-You're five years shy of your centenary.

-Yes.

0:38:550:38:58

-What would you hope to be able see in...

-I'd just hope to be able to see!

0:38:580:39:02

It's heartening to meet these passionate women

0:39:040:39:07

who have helped champion this national institution.

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And with an average of 500 new members joining nationwide every month,

0:39:100:39:14

it looks like the WI is set to grow and grow.

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I'm pretty certain I know which one of those houses

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they don't like.

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But I'm a bit hazy about which one Mark and Dawn like of the first two.

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Let's find out.

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I thought we'd take ourselves to the beach cos we haven't seen the sea.

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-No.

-Half the joy of being in North Wales is you're close to the sea.

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-Is it clearing your head?

-Yes.

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The first property we looked at was the Blue Stone cottage.

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What about that in retrospect?

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-I still like it a lot.

-I really like it.

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But it's just not practical for Mark with the ceiling height in the kitchen.

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Which is a shame. I couldn't fault it. It was beautiful.

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It would have been nice to get more acreage, but if you can rent it, that's fine.

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It would be interesting to find out how much it would cost to drop the floor.

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If it was 15 grand, you'd still be in budget. You wouldn't have to spend anything else.

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-No, it's beautiful.

-Nothing you'd need to do.

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The land question was quite a big one.

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You say two acres wasn't enough. How important has it become

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that you actually own all the land you want?

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-I don't know.

-I think if you...

-You've got to own some land, I'd have thought.

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The Blue Stone House, you had land at the side, and if you struck up a rapport with the farmer,

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he would maybe sell you a couple of acres joining your land.

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It's something else to look into.

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The second property, the Long House, had lots and lots of land!

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-The land was fantastic.

-What are your thoughts about that one?

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I really like that one.

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Although it needed work done to the kitchen to make it how we'd want it,

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and you would do quite a lot of work cosmetically inside,

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the outside worked perfectly for me.

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It was nice that the land was all the way round the house.

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It was nice and safe for the girls to play.

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Dawn, what do you think about the inside?

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I can see through all the decor and the carpets.

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So it's whether... I think you'd need to come out a bit at the back

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and make the upstairs two bedrooms a bit bigger.

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Although they're small and they'd be OK now,

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when the girls are older, they'd probably want more room.

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-Certainly not putting me off.

-The mystery house?

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Outside was great, absolutely. The land, the horses, the stables.

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It was fantastic. But the house was really too modern.

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Without being up-to-date modern.

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It was like '80s, '90s. It's a shame cos the view was absolutely amazing.

0:41:440:41:50

-Yeah.

-Out of all those properties, is there any that stand out?

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That you'd go back and visit?

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-I think the first two.

-Yeah, definitely.

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-We could enquire on prices for the floor and the extension on number two.

-Yeah.

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And see about all the bits you'd want to do.

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-They both would need stables.

-Two. That's a good score.

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I suppose the big question then is, which of those two would the girls like best?

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The first one, I think. Pretty.

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-Very pretty.

-I would have said the second one.

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Well, I can't wait to hear back from you which one the girls test.

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I think we should take them to both.

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-Yeah.

-Definitely.

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Let them decide!

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I know it's a massive move for you,

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and it's a real quantum leap from Manchester out to the country with the girls.

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Fingers crossed that one of those two work out.

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-If not, some other one.

-Yep.

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-Thanks for being such good sports.

-Thanks very much. It was fun.

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