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Hello. Welcome to rather a wet Longmeadow.

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It's been one of those days where the rain sweeps in,

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gives you a really good drenching,

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you go and try and get dry, and then it clears up, so you go back out.

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And then it starts again!

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But I'll be persevering, because I shall be pruning

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a climbing rose that's got into a bit of a tangle.

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Carol shows us how easy it is

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to propagate from root cuttings.

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In my garden here, I grow

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lots and lots of wood anemones. I just love them.

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And I want to make loads more of these beautiful flowers.

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Joe goes in search of apple trees

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that will suit any size of garden.

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Here at West Dean, they're growing some fruit trees

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in some pretty novel ways

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and in a fashion that would suit

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the smallest of gardens.

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And I shall be planting apples for small spaces too.

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If the rain holds off!

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This is a climbing rose called 'Madame Gregoire Staechelin'.

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It's lovely. It's got beautiful, big, pink flowers

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that start in May, and it goes on flowering

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right through into autumn, sometimes into October.

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And this year, it sort of petered out in September.

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And it's made lots and lots of lush, strong growth.

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And the problem with any climber is

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if you let that strong growth become a tangle,

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it's really difficult to untangle.

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So it's worth keeping on top of it.

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You can see...

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..how this differs from a rambler...

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..in the way that you have really quite strong, robust growth

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growing from a permanent framework.

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And the idea is to prune back to that framework every year.

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Now, the way that a climbing rose works

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is that the flowers are produced off lateral growth.

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So you have a stem - I don't know if you can see - going along here,

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along, trained along this wire

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that I tied in last year.

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And that, that, that, that, that and all these behind me

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are laterals that either have done or would do...produce flowers.

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You can see the hips developing from the flowers.

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So all those need pruning back

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to one or two leaves. It's not critical.

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So that's the first thing to do,

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because then you can see the framework easier.

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So if I start at this end and I just train them like that...

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Even these big ones I'm going to take right back.

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You can do this at any stage in the winter,

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but I like to do it in autumn,

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because if you get bad weather in winter,

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all this growth swings around,

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and it can damage the plant, it can damage the roots.

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And if there are people walking about,

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they're pretty nasty things to be flapping about.

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So it's a good idea to get this done

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before the weather gets too bad.

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This is the point where you do need to have a look

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at the existing framework and see if you're happy with it,

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because sometimes these older growths are getting woody

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and not producing many side shoots,

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and now is the time to remove them and replace them.

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Actually, in this case, I don't want to remove any,

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but if you do, use a saw or a big pair of loppers

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and cut them right at the base

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and train another shoot,

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a fresh, young one, preferably from the base too,

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to replace it.

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In principle, when you're pruning anything,

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you cut to something.

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And in this case, it's just above a leaf.

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So if you just cut above there, you'll do no harm at all.

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But don't agonise over it.

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This one here...

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..if I put that there,

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that can train sideways, which is good.

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You want to encourage

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as much lateral horizontal growth as possible,

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because if a stem is growing horizontally,

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you'll get more side shoots,

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and it's side shoots that produce the flowers.

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So all your training should be geared towards

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spreading it out sideways.

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I like to use soft twine

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when tying anything in, because it doesn't do any damage to the plant.

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Whatever you do, don't use wire, because all that will do

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is cut through the tender, growing stems.

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And if you just hold in your head

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that you're trying to create this neat latticework

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across whatever surface it is it's covering

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that is as two-dimensional as possible...

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You don't really want anything coming out

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more than, say, four, five inches.

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That I will tie in there,

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and this can go...

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here.

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Actually, no, I'll tie the bottom one first.

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Actually, that's another tip.

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Always do your tying from the bottom,

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because as you're bending the stems,

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you want them to be fixed lower down,

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because otherwise there's a risk of them slightly kinking,

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and then they can break.

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So let's take this back, tie it right down here...

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That's good.

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That's fine.

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A couple more bits to be tied in,

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but I've got a decent framework which is set up for next spring,

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and then we'll get the laterals, which will bear the flowers.

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Now, of course I've got to tidy up,

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and that takes as long as doing the job, but while I'm doing that,

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Carol is dividing and taking root cuttings from anemones.

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Wood anemones, one of our most magical wild flowers.

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You walk through the woods on a cold, dark day in April,

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the whole place is dreary,

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but walk again on the next day, when the sun shines,

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and the whole woodland floor is a-sparkle

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with their beautiful flowers.

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In my garden here, I grow lots and lots of wood anemones.

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I just love them, and I want to try and emulate

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the kind of feeling that you get as you walk through

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those wild woods.

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And I want to make loads more of these beautiful flowers

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all across the shady part of my garden.

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In the spring, this whole area glistens

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with the beautiful white flowers of wood anemones.

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But at the moment,

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they're completely dormant!

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They've gone to sleep!

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But I know they're in here, and I'm determined to find them.

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It's a strange thing, isn't it?

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You don't think about roots,

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and yet without them these trees and all this beautiful stuff here

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just wouldn't be.

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And I suppose you think, "Well, propagating from roots?!"

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You're used to doing it from seeds and from cuttings,

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but there are a lot of plants that you can make more of

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just from their roots.

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I think I'm in luck.

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That's a typical example.

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You've got these lovely

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sort of mahogany-coloured little rhizomes there

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and at the end of them these embryonic buds.

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And all I'm going to do

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is snap them up in pieces.

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Each of them has some tiny, fibrous roots,

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and they'll make a new clump by the spring.

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Well, I've chosen this lovely little

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shady corner.

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Just spacing them out

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so they're growing along the surface.

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If you haven't got wood anemones already in your own garden,

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you can easily get them from a specialist bulb merchant

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or some garden centres too.

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The rhizomes will look exactly the same,

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and you just repeat the process.

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But there's another anemone

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that's at the height of its floral glory right now,

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and you propagate that, too, from its roots.

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I absolutely love this Japanese anemone.

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And a lot of people'd say, "What do you want more of that for?!",

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because it is true, once you've got these established,

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they very often take over a whole patch. But why not?

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I mean, this time of year,

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you really do need wonderful colour.

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Well, if I root around in this soil here,

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I know I'm going to come across some of these roots.

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There we go.

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All along the root, there are these little teeny nodules,

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which are just waiting to be new shoots.

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But instead of just putting them into the garden,

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by far the best way is to use

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something like a module tray.

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You can do them into little seed trays as well,

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but this way, you know that once they've taken root in here

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and you move them on,

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there's going to be no root disturbance at all.

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The really important point is that you make sure

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that they lie horizontally across the compost.

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And all you're doing with this propagation technique

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is exploiting what the plant does in nature -

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always the best policy.

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There are some plants whose roots don't grow outwards,

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they grow downwards, with a vengeance,

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they have great big tap roots.

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But you can propagate from a lot of those, as well,

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and this is a prime example.

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It's a verbascum.

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It's Verbascum 'Cotswold Queen'.

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-It's got these

-gorgeous

-terracotta flowers,

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and I always want more.

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So what I want to do is,

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with a sharp knife, go in right to the centre of the plant,

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as close to the crown as I can,

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and just cut it across.

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With horizontal root cuttings,

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it doesn't matter which way up they go,

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because they're just going across.

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But with these kind of cuttings,

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with big, tap-root, vertical cuttings,

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it's vital that you get the right end up.

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So always the top of your cutting is the end that was closest

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to the crown of your plant.

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People get terribly put off

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by root cuttings. They worry about it.

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But it's simple and straightforward.

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Also, I think at this time of year,

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you tend to think you've finished with propagating.

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You know, you've sown your seeds and you've taken your other cuttings.

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But this is the perfect time, from now and right through the winter,

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to take root cuttings.

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And if you want to know more about the kind of plants

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that you can grow from root cuttings,

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visit our website.

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This is the ideal time of year

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to plant out biennials

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that will flower next spring.

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And I've got a load of wallflowers here that I've raised from seed.

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Now, you can buy wallflowers in garden centres and shops

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at this time of year,

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and traditionally they were sold in hardware stores, in newspaper.

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But if you grow them from seed, they cost practically nothing.

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A couple of packets of seed here, and I've got about 300 plants.

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That makes it about 2p a plant.

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Now, this is a variety called 'Blood Red'.

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Fantastic, rich, ruby-red flowers.

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And what I'm looking for is plants that have got...

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..a nice root system and to keep a bit of soil on them.

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See, there you are.

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That's such a good plant. I'm very pleased with that.

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It's exactly what you want to look for

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when buying a wallflower at this time of year.

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And one of the beauties of wallflowers is

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they have a huge colour range,

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from almost white to...

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almost dark purple.

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The weather's a bit miserable.

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It's been trying to rain for the last few hours,

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but that is really good

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for transplanting anything -

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wet air, slightly damp soil, perfect, because the plant

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is full of moisture and it minimises the damage of transplanting.

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I'm going to be planting them in this bed here.

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In fact, these four beds. And under planting them with tulips.

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Tulips don't need to go in for another few weeks.

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It's best to leave those until November.

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Take your plant, keeping as much soil as possible on the roots.

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And...

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..pop them in, not too deep,

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same height that they were and then firm that in.

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So that's nice and it will stand up on its own accord.

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And, as for spacing, I put that about a foot away from the hedge.

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Wallflowers do best in full sun, so not too much shade.

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This is actually a marginal position.

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I grow them here often and they do fine

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and I like them here because the scent is so good close to the house.

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But, to get the very best from them, give them a sunny spot.

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If you've got slightly acidic soil.

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In other words if you've got rhododendrons or azaleas

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or heathers in your garden, it's a good idea to lime it first.

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You can buy lime easily from a garden centre.

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Spread it about a week before you plant it out.

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You don't need to add any compost or goodness at all.

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All you'll get if you do that

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is a bigger plant with more foliage, but you won't get any more flowers.

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Now this Sunday, the 21st, is National Apple Day.

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Lots of gardens will be opening up, orchards,

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and give people the chance to go along

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and taste as many different types of apple as possible.

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Gardeners need to be involved in this because

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if we don't grow the rare and unusual apples, they'll disappear.

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And Joe has been along to West Dean Gardens near Chichester

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in West Sussex to see, not only lots of different types of apple,

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but lots of different ways of growing them.

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When we imagine a traditional orchard we think of neat rows of fruit trees

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with boughs laden with blushing apples and pears

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but what if you want to grow a decent crop of fruit at home

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and space is limited?

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Here at West Dean in the Victorian walled garden,

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they grow some fruit trees in some pretty novel ways

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and in a fashion that would suit the smallest of gardens.

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For the last 21 years,

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Jim Buckland and his wife Sarah Wain have been turning this

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once derelict Victorian walled garden back to its 19th century glory.

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Jim was recently awarded the RHS Associate Medal of Honour

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for distinguished services to horticulture

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and because, to date, he has made West Dean

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as beautiful and abundant as its heyday if not more so.

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The redevelopment is impressive

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and Jim also has some pretty bold ideas when it comes to growing fruit.

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-Hello, Jim.

-Hi, Joe.

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These are very unusual shapes.

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Are they all Victorian originally, these designs?

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Yes, they evolved during the 19th century, yes.

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They're really quite funky shapes, I love them,

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but it's not just about how they look,

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they also produce a lot of fruit, don't they, for the size of plant?

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Indeed. Well, most woody plants have growth hormones in them

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and most woody plants, most trees,

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you think of most trees they have apical dominance

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so the tree wants to form a single leader going up and then branch out.

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By taking out the central leader,

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you slow down the flow of those hormones to the rest of the tree

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and it encourages branching lower down.

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It encourages flowering, therefore it encourages fruiting.

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Not all apple trees will respond so well, will they?

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You need spur producers so, spurs being those very short little

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fruiting branches that most apples and all pears produce.

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If you look in a catalogue it will always tell you whether they're a spur bearer.

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Probably 90% of apples are spur bearers.

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I think the reason I love doing it is because,

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partly because I love pruning things.

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I think pruning is one of the most creative things

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you can do in gardening, but also it's actually very attractive

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and you can imagine this in full flower

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and then in full fruit, it's absolutely a joy to look at.

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A Victorian pioneering fruit grower was French Professor of Agriculture, Louis Lorette.

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He devised wacky ways of growing apples and pears,

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mainly as an experiment for intensive commercial fruit production.

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Lorette found that by contorting branches

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and planting the trees close together he could produce heavier crops

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that would be easier to pick.

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But how do you get apples and pears to perform these puzzling poses?

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So, let's say this has got roots, we've planted it,

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and you do something quite brutal.

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-We chop all this lovely growth off the top.

-Take that really hard back.

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What we hope is we get three good breaks,

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so you're taking one branch out...

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-One this way. One that way.

-One up the centre.

-One up.

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Next year, these two branches will have grown out.

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End of the season I've cut back to there, and off we go again.

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So is that pretty much, one year, two year, every year?

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You're getting something different?

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Yes, that's one of the points about this,

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is you got to be reasonably patient.

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It takes anything up to seven years to make some of these shapes.

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Cordons are both an extremely attractive

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and efficient way of getting fruit into a small space.

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The trees are grown at this angle, the growing tips are taken out

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and they fruit all the way down the trunks there.

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What's interesting is that here we have 12 metres of walling

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and 15 different plants

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so you can get a really good variety into your garden.

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So if you're pushed for space but you still want

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good choice of varieties, cordons could be the answer.

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The fruit here at West Dean is grown in all kinds of imaginative ways

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that not only produce good crops

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but introduce an effective design element into any garden.

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These pyramids and goblets are trained onto a simple framework

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that not only introduces a sense of fun into the garden

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but a strong focal point too.

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It doesn't matter how small your garden is.

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I think it's important to get height into it through planting

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and sometimes structures too.

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You don't need a walkway quite as long as this,

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just a couple of fruit trees bent over a simple structure will do the job.

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It will create a vista, it will draw the eye,

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but more importantly, it will make you want to walk through it.

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I haven't been to West Dean for ages but I remember when I went there

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thinking how amazing all the trained fruit was

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and I completely agree that pruning is the most creative thing

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you can do in the garden, but it is a bit daunting for a lot of us.

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If you haven't got much space and you think it's going to take a long time,

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there is a very easy option, which is particularly good

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for lining a path, and those are stepover apples.

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These only grow to about one or two feet high

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and then they stretch out along the path so they're very slim,

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very low and, quite frankly, if you can grow anything

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along the border of a path, you can grow these fruit trees.

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Now, the planting of them is like any tree or shrub.

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Make a hole but don't make it too deep.

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Now, take it out of the pot, like that.

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And you can see that's got a nice root system.

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Very nice indeed.

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But first I'm going to put a little bit of mycorrhizae in.

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Mycorrhizae of course are funghi

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and by adding a little bit of mycorrhizae

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to the soil and the roots.

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It's important that the roots make a direct connection to it.

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You get a much better uptake of nutrients.

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It acts as a conduit between the soil and the roots.

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So, therefore, the plant grows away all the quicker.

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I pop in so that the top of the pot is slightly above soil level.

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You don't want it sitting down below.

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Actually that is perfect.

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All apple trees are grafted onto a rootstock.

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There's the grafting point.

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That determines the size and vigour of the tree

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and what's above determines the variety of the fruit.

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And, stepovers are grown on a dwarf rootstock.

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If you're not certain about them or what a rootstock is,

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go to our website. It's all very clearly explained.

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Now, this apple is called Discovery.

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Discovery is an early apple.

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It should fruit in mid-August to mid-September.

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Now, the next stage is to create

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a supportive framework for it

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because we want these branches here to grow as long as possible.

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Now, obviously if you buy them already shaped, as these are,

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it's easy, but, this does cost about 30 quid.

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And you can go about it a different way,

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with a much cheaper version, but it does mean training them yourselves.

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If you buy a maiden.

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That's simply an expression for a plant that's got no branches,

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you can train your own. Now, there are two ways to do this.

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Jim showed how you can cut it off

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and encourage shoots to grow sideways

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but I'm going to show you another method which is actually easier.

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Now, the first thing to do is to plant it exactly like the others.

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Now, that's planted upright, growing to the sky.

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So, before I do any kind of training

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I need to get the support in.

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Just like the other ones.

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Now, this applet Egremont Russet,

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a lovely, nutty apple.

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Quite a thick, leathery skin,

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which ripens about now, about the middle to the end of October.

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Now, to get the best from this, tie it at the base.

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What you do is just slowly train that down,

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and you tie a string to the top

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and bend it until it's comfortable. You obviously don't want to snap it.

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Don't tie it at the very tip, but there,

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because you actually want the tip to bend upwards.

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Because, if a plant is bending down,

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it grows much more slowly than if it's growing up.

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The time to do this is not now, but next spring.

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It will take about two or three years to get it down to the horizontal,

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but it will grow and it will train across to here

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and we'll tie it in and that's a really easy way of training it.

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Now, you may not be planting apples this weekend,

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although it's a jolly good time to do it.

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But here are some other things you can get on with.

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Hellebores won't start flowering until after the New Year,

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but it is a good idea to check through them now,

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looking for signs of hellebore blight.

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This will show itself as chocolate coloured markings on the leaves.

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If you see it remove the foliage and the stem right down to the ground.

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And you'll do no harm at all by taking all the foliage off

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if you've any doubts.

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If you've got a wood-burning stove or an open fire

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that only burns wood, the resulting ash

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is a really good source of potash for the garden.

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Now, it's best to apply this in spring

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so either store it in bags or sprinkle it on to the compost heap

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and then when you put the compost down, the potash will be there.

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Chicory is a fantastic winter vegetable and very hardy.

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But it doesn't like wet weather.

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It needs good ventilation.

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So keep pulling off old tough leaves which you're not going to eat

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to allow the air to get to the young, tender growth

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which is so delicious.

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Well, that's it for this week.

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Don't forget that on the 21st it's National Apple Day

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so lots of events around the country,

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and if you don't know what apple to plant in your garden,

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the best way of deciding is to go to one of these events

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and taste some apples.

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See what you like because, in the end, that's why you grow them,

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so that they taste delicious and you can go out in the garden

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and pick your own.

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So I'll see you here next Friday. Bye-bye.

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