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Hello, welcome to Gardeners' World.

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Now, it's a bank holiday weekend, which means three free days

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and, of course, you could join a traffic jam somewhere

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or you could stay at home, garden at your own pace,

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and go into next week refreshed and the garden looking fantastic.

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I know what I'm going to be doing.

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This week Carol visits a modern plant hunter who's amassed

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a vast collection of plants in his Scottish garden.

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This 18th-century walled garden in the heart

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of the Scottish Borders is home to more than 4,000 different varieties

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of really special plants, gathered together from all over the world.

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And we visit a couple who've made their allotment into more than just

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a fine collection of fruit and veg and it's become an entire garden.

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Well, the allotment really is the centre of our life now.

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What else would two old retired layabouts be doing?

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And I shall be cutting some of my taller hedges, and also taking

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the tomato trial to the really important stage, which is tasting.

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Just pop those in there just for a moment.

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In fact, the colour of this particular sweet pea

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is almost identical to this penstemon.

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This is Penstemon 'Blackbird' and you can see it's got that lovely

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purply, grape-ish hue

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and one of the special things about penstemons at this time of year

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is they give you a huge range of colour from the darkness

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of ones like 'Blackbird' to a pink, like this one,

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which is 'Macpenny's Pink' -

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got a little raspberry touch to the inside.

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And that range of colour flowering from July through to November

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is really the power of penstemons that will go on.

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If you keep deadheading them, they'll just produce more

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and more flowers till the first frost.

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They come from North America, they're not particularly hardy,

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but they are very floriferous.

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I think there's no garden

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that can't find a home for some penstemons.

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Now, when you buy them, obviously you're going

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to look for the flower colour and that's natural and you

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go to a nursery or a garden centre and you see something like this

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and you say, "Yeah, that will work well."

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But just consider the plant itself.

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I've got another 'Blackbird' here,

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both bought from the same nursery, both the same price,

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whereas this is a much better plant, even though it hasn't got

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a single flower on it, partly because there's more of it

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and partly because this is also going to give me

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lots of material for cuttings.

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Of course, the cuttings you take now will give a plant this big

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next year, so very, very cheap.

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Get a potting compost mix and add something to lighten it.

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I've got some perlite here, but grit would do just as well.

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Then put some into a small pot.

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At this point, you need sharp secateurs and also,

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if you're old and blind like me, you need glasses.

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What we're looking for is fresh, new growth and this is perfect here.

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So, if I cut about four or five inches long, take that,

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and that's another good one there. Take that.

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Here's a shorter growth, but that doesn't matter.

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Perfect, and that's left plenty of material for planting out,

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so I haven't damaged the plant or weakened it in any way.

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With a cutting like that,

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you have a lot of foliage and that's all losing moisture

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and because it doesn't have any roots it's not taking up

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any moisture, or at least hardly any from the base,

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so what you need to do is get balance whereby it's not

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losing too much moisture,

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but it's also got enough leaves to feed it and so it can stay alive.

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So, what we need to do is just reduce some of these leaves

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and these can just pull of or cut off with a knife, you don't

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want to damage the stem, so just take that off there.

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In fact, I'm going to take off most of the leaves...

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..leaving a bare stem

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and I'm going to just push that down in the corner.

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It's also important to do it quickly.

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If you can't take the cutting inside a shed from the parent plant,

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always have a polythene bag to pop them into

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because they're losing moisture by the second.

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Now I'm burying these about two or three inches down.

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In fact, I'm pushing them

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down to more or less the bottom of the pot,

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but, essentially, you want at least an inch under the soil

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and if it can be two inches, so much the better.

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These will take a few weeks to root and you'll know they've rooted

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because you'll see new growth and then you can either leave them

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in the pots and they can spend the winter protected from the frost

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and be potted on in the spring.

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Or if you've got a bit more space, as soon as they rooted,

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put them into individual pots and then store them

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in an old frame or greenhouse where they're reliably frost free

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and they will grow next spring into nice big plants.

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Now this bed is getting pretty full, but I have got a little

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corner here which I can get one of these plants into at least.

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I've got two, so there's

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'Macpenny's Pink' that I've taken my five cuttings from

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and also 'Thorn' which is paler, more delicate,

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which I think I'll plant in another bed.

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So, we'll put 'Macpenny's Pink' in there.

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It doesn't matter what colour your penstemon is, or what species

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or variety, it will want drainage.

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They really do need good drainage,

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so unless you've got very light soil, then add some drainage to it.

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I'm going to add a little bit of grit just to improve it,

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won't do any harm at all.

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Dig that in the ground

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and that will help not just the plant to grow in the conditions that

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it likes best, but particularly it'll help it over winter.

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What they hate is sitting in wet, cold soil and here at Long Meadow

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it's guaranteed to be wet and cold for months on end in winter.

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And then just pop it in the ground.

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And just in you go.

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Now other than watering it in once you've planted it,

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there's really nothing else to do.

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Deadhead them as the flowers fade

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and they will go on flowering right into autumn.

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Right, let's find a home for this.

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Now I haven't taken cuttings from this yet, but if I plant it,

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and let the roots establish, I'll get a new flush of growth which

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will provide me really good cutting material by the end of September.

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Now its home could be here amongst the borders,

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it could be amongst the vegetables.

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The whole point of this cottage garden that I'm creating,

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it's very much work-in-progress, is to get that mix,

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let them all jumble in together -

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and as long as the feeling is right, it doesn't actually matter

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weather it's edible, floral, herbal, medicinal -

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it can all work in.

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We went to visit a couple in North London who've taken

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the spirit of the cottage garden and applied it to their allotment.

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We've only been here about five years

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and we feel we've done a huge amount in that space of time.

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Well, we're partners for the last 25-odd years

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and, erm, we only started gardening together...

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When we came here. ..when we came here.

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Well, the allotment really is the centre of our life now.

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We enjoy the company of the other allotmenteers and...

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We celebrate our families' birthdays,

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and dinners, coffees, barbecues...

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It's always great fun to come up and have the company

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and what else would two old retired layabouts be doing?

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Keeps us very active and keeps us happy.

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We grow a huge range of fruit and veg, believe it or not.

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We have the usual things - cabbages and beans and onions

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and all the usual stuff that people grow -

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but we also like to experiment with things for fun

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and our favourite is shark-fin melon

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because it's a real heavyweight thug. It runs all over the place

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where nothing else will, produces huge gourds and looks fantastic.

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And then the rose obsession began.

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# I beg your pardon I never promised you a... #

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We're never going to get to James Galway up there.

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# Along with sunshine

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# There's got to be a little rain sometimes... #

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We're both very interested in roses,

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and here was a great opportunity to grow the roses we wanted.

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Every rose smells of roses, but they all smell differently.

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The history of the rose is wonderful, the romance of the stories

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behind the roses is wonderful, and they're rather beautiful, as well.

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We've got what we call an exotic border,

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and it's full of huge plants in a very big border.

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Things like Tetrapanax, and Paulownias.

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We particularly like those,

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cos they're so different from everything else,

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and it gives a lovely wild exotic feel to the allotment.

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We've done a pond for wildlife.

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I can tell you a story about the pond,

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cos I wasn't feeling too good one day and I went home at lunchtime

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and I came back the next day and we had a pond.

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Serge dug one out while I was away.

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He's very good at building stuff, and things like that,

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which I'm rubbish at.

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The nice thing about it is we both seem to have a project going

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at any given time, and we just get on with it

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and leave each other alone to do it.

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So, we don't have too many arguments about what's what.

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He tells me what to do, and I do it.

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That is so unfair, but true. It's true. Erm... No.

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# Keep young and beautiful

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# It's your duty to be beautiful

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# Keep young and beautiful

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# If you want to be loved

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# Don't fail to do your stuff

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# With a little powder... #

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It's fabulous, but that's disputed whether or not it's...

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# If you want to be loved!

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# Oobie-doo! Oh! #

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You can visit Serge and George's plot,

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because the Golf Course Allotments on Muswell Hill are open

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on September 1st, and if you want details

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and of other gardens open, then go to our website.

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Hedges are a really important part of this garden.

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When we came here, there were none.

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Just a couple of small scrubby trees, and that was it.

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So, to plant hedges was to create protection

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and to divide the garden up into spaces and, in fact,

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it's not that big a garden.

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It's just having lots of different spaces makes it seems much bigger.

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I framed views and created drama around the garden

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by contrasting low hedges with some very tall ones.

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Now, it follows that tall hedges are more hedge-cutting.

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But the principles of cutting a hedge is exactly the same,

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whether it's that tall or 30-foot tall.

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With a tall hedge, the big thing to watch out for is at the top,

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which is going to grow faster cos it gets more sunlight

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and because you prune it, therefore it'll grow vigorously,

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will shade out the bottom.

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And you can very quickly

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and easily get bare patches in the bottom of the hedge.

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The only way around that is to have a batter,

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and that means cutting it at a slope.

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So, the taller the hedge,

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the more important it is that it's wider at the bottom than the top.

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So, that's the main thing to bear in mind.

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Right, let's get going.

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Over 3,000 people per year are treated after accidents

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with hedge-trimmers.

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So, it's worth taking some trouble, particularly to protect your eyes.

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As you cut, work slowly forwards, going from the bottom upwards.

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And take your time.

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It's worth just keeping checking that you've got the batter,

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and that the line is reasonably straight,

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cos obviously you can't see it when you're close up.

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And just keep going back. Just go on until you're happy with it.

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And not until you've got the sides exactly right

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do you take the top off, but if you've got a cypress hedge,

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something like that, don't cut into old wood, cos it won't regrow,

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so just leave a little bit of new growth.

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Well, that's a start.

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Although hedge-cutting is quite a big job

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and if it's a big hedge, it's an even bigger one, but it's worth it.

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It looks good for nearly the whole year.

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Now, our gardens are full of plants from all over the world.

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That's the joy of them.

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But plant hunting is not something that used to happen in the past.

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Carol has been to meet a 21st-century plant hunter

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and his incredible collection of plants.

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When you step inside an ancient walled garden,

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you expect to be greeted by row upon row of carefully-tended vegetables.

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You expect the high brick walls to be festooned

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in every imaginable exotic fruit. But not here.

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This 18th-century walled garden in the heart of the Scottish borders

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is home to more than 4,000 different varieties

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of really special plants, gathered together from all over the world.

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You usually think about plant hunters

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as being people from the past.

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But I've come to meet a modern-day plant hunter.

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Michael Wickenden has travelled the globe visiting five continents

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and 15 different countries to discover new and exotic plants.

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He's brought them here to Cally Gardens.

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So, how on earth did you start plant hunting?

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Did you just sit there one day and think, "Oh, I'm going to go off."

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Not quite. I'd been gardening and collecting plants

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and had already started the nursery. I'd sold some plants.

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I had some money at last,

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and the first thing I wanted to do was go and see the plants

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in the wild, and perhaps collect some seed and get some new stuff.

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The thing about plant hunting is that it takes you to places

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that no tourist is ever going to go near.

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I suppose it's travelling with a purpose,

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and that's the exciting thing.

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And this, it's a dianthus, isn't it?

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Yes, it is, Carol. It's Dianthus amurensis

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from the Russian Far East.

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That was collected on my trip to Vladivostok in 1996.

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It's a wonderful part of the world for plants,

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because very, very hardy plants there. The sea freezes in the winter.

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Did you know what it was going to be like? No, I didn't.

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I knew it was a dianthus,

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I didn't know what colour it was going to be and it was great,

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because it's a beautiful luminous mauve, and it flowers after

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the other dianthus - pinks, as people call them - have finished.

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Yeah. There it is.

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Dianthus amurensis 'Andrey.'

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Andrey Gonchorev was my Russian botanical guide.

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Right. So I named...

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On your trip to Vladivostok. Yeah.

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I named it after my guide, cos he was such a great chap.

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Just over here next door, this is a poppy called Papaver triniifolium.

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There's the flowers. How pretty. Rather nice apricot flowers.

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I've been keeping this

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because I'm hoping that in here

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there will be the seed. And there it is.

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Oh, look at that. So, out of those...

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They're like little pepper pots, aren't they? They are, yeah.

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Out of that, lots and lots of seed. Wonderful.

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That's just what we do when we're plant hunting,

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and that goes into a paper bag and then back home.

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This is something that we collected in the Eastern Himalayas,

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and this is a kind of buckwheat.

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There's quite a lot to recommend it cos it flowers like this

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from some time in June, right through to the autumn.

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Beautiful background for this Eryngium, isn't it?

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But I don't think I've seen this one before.

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This is, um, Eryngium serbicum from Serbia,

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and we got that in an exchange.

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Botanic Gardens Worldwide

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have a wonderful, non-commercial seed exchange system.

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It's still going strong, it's a bit less than it used to be,

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because of something called the Biodiversity Convention.

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Since Michael first started plant-hunting,

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the laws on collecting from the wild

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to breed new plants have become much more stringent.

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He feels strongly that one aspect of the Biodiversity Convention,

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the current legislation that governs modern-day plant hunting,

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means that anyone starting out today

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simply wouldn't be able to develop a garden like this one.

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I just like the feeling of connectedness

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with the rest of the world... Yes. ..through plants.

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Because we are, aren't we? We are.

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You know, someone said that the world is an inhabited garden...

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Yes! ..which is a bit romantic, but I suppose you could see it that way.

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I bet you agree with that really! Deep down. Yes, yes.

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So, here's a plant I wanted to show you, Carol.

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This is Paris polyphylla, and there's a direct connection here with

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one of my great plant-hunting heroes, George Forrest. Yes.

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Because he collected the first plant of this in 1915,

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and then he brought it to the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh,

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and this is a seedling of it.

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So, direct connection to 100 years ago, and George Forrest.

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And doesn't it look wonderful with this Rodgersia?

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Well, this is a Rodgersia that I collected in the Himalayas,

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perhaps not so far from where George Forrest was.

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CAROL GASPS

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And this is in fruit, actually. What a beautiful planting idea.

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Pure chance, pure chance. Like all the best combinations here.

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Yeah, but two great plant hunters in this one combination.

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One great plant hunter and...

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You're not great until you've died, remember. Of course.

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Please don't do that yet.

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Aspiring. All right. Not quite yet. MICHAEL CHUCKLES

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I love the way Michael puts plants together.

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It's a real inspiration to all gardeners.

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But the point is that he really sort of exemplifies

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that whole spirit of plant exploration,

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bringing all these plants together

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so that we can use them in our gardens.

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SHEEP BLEATS

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Now, I've been doing an informal trial

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based upon an experience that I had last year

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of seeing tomatoes growing in terracotta pots

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with very little soil.

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I had quite a lot of response, actually, from you,

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because a number of you have also tried to grow

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tomatoes in a terracotta pot half-filled with soil,

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and, in general, the reaction has been surprise

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and indeed delight, that they've grown so well.

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But no-one has yet reported on how they taste.

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Now, I've got two Gardener's Delight plants growing in a grow bag,

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two growing in what I call normal-size plastic pots,

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and then two growing in much smaller terracotta pots

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which are half full of the same compost.

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So, let's go for taste.

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Now, obviously, this is subjective,

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but I promise to report accurately and faithfully what I taste.

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So, this is the grow bag.

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And, by the way, you can see that these are large, healthy plants

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with a really good crop.

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It's a good tomato.

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It's well-flavoured, round. The skin is quite tough.

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Right, well, let's go on to the way that I often grow them,

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which is a largish plastic pot.

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Very similar. No better, no worse. No difference between the two.

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Therefore you have to say that if you're measuring just these two,

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the grow bag wins hands down,

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because there's more of them, and the taste is just as good.

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So, finally, we come to the terracotta pots,

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which have got far fewer tomatoes.

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I'm willing it on, I want it to be good.

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And it is good.

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But it's no better than the other two.

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So, I have to say that that at this stage if the year,

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and there's another month, at least, of tomato harvest ahead...

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..the grow bag is winning hands-down.

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Which is not the result I either expected or wanted,

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but that's the truth.

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The tomato trial is my subjective, rather unscientific look

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at different methods of growing tomato plants in containers.

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In my old greenhouse, I'm still growing my main crop,

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planted directly into the ground.

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There's much more fruit, and we've been eating them all summer.

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And I can tell you, the taste...

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..is better. It's fantastic.

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You've got a little bit more acidity that adds a depth to the sweetness.

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And there's more of a sort of growing aftertaste.

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Now, I don't quite know why that is, but certainly, in my experience,

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to get the best from tomatoes, grow them in soil, in a bed, undercover.

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This is my asparagus bed.

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And it's giving me causes for concern.

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It's not doing terribly well.

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I planted it a couple of years ago in April 2011.

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I did lots of grit, dug the whole bed,

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and then planted the asparagus in a grid system.

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It really didn't establish very well.

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We had a few spears this year, but nothing much.

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And it's got nothing like the vigour that I would expect

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from an asparagus bed that is in its third year.

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Now, what I want to know is,

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is this a result of the bad weather we've had,

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or something that's going wrong?

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So if any of you have been growing asparagus

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and have got problems with it,

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or even great success over the last couple of years,

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I'd be really interested to hear.

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Now, if you're not an asparagus grower,

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there's still lots you can do in the garden.

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And here are some jobs for you to be getting on with this weekend.

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It's not uncommon for camellias, and rhododendrons and azaleas,

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to drop unopened buds in spring, before flowering.

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And that's because they're too dry,

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so water them well now and for the next few months,

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especially if they're in pots,

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and then the buds will form properly

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and should guarantee a good display next year.

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Vine weevils can become a major problem for plants in pots.

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But if you apply nematodes now, it can help get rid of them.

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Adult vine weevils cause typical notches on leaves,

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but the real damage is done by the larvae

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that feed on the roots of the plants in autumn, winter and spring.

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Follow the instructions on the packet to dilute the nematode mix.

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Don't treat the plants with notched leaves,

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but water the nematodes into all pots

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where plants are living permanently,

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as it is here that the eggs are laid.

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As we come now to the end of August, the time

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left for tomato plants to form and ripen new fruit is diminishing.

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So, it's a good idea to "stop" them, or cut them off.

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Use a knife or secateurs, and don't worry about losing some flowers,

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or even a few fruit.

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The result will be that the plant will focus its energy

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into swelling and ripening the existing fruit.

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There we are. Another job done.

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And that's it for this week.

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We'll be back next week here at Long Meadow, of course,

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but have a really good bank holiday weekend, and I'll see you next week.

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Bye-bye.

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