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Hello, welcome to Gardeners' World.

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This is the dry garden and we call it dry not because

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it gets any less rain, it's still a wet old garden,

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but because it drains really fast and, in fact, it's the only

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bit of Longmeadow that does have good drainage.

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And there's hardly any soil but things grow,

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they grow well if you choose the right plants and, in fact,

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last year, we gave it an overhaul.

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Everything came out, freshened up the soil,

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weeded it through and then replanted.

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So, here we are, this is one year's growth.

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A little bit lower than the rest of the garden but I love that sort

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of undulating tapestry of varying greens just touched with colour.

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The irises coming through, little bit of comfrey, daisies

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and, of course, that rose - Madame Gregoire Staechelin -

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on the wall which is just coming into flower.

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In fact, I was looking at it a day or two ago

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and I saw a bluetit pop in a hole and, on closer look,

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I could see there's a little nest inside the wall behind the rose.

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So it's a gentle part of the garden but with its own real charm.

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Now, on tonight's programme, I will be planting out my

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blight-resistant outdoor tomatoes

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and also planting out the giant sunflowers.

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This week, we're visiting two very different gardens,

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both are open this weekend as part of the National Gardens Festival.

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One is a very wet garden in Cumbria...

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You work in an area and when you leave it, it shouldn't look as

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though you've worked in it.

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That's really the fundamental thing behind our style of gardening.

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..and Carol visits a very steep, dry garden near Bedford.

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-Do you have to abseil?

-Not quite.

-It obviously keeps you fit.

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Yes, walking up and down the slope with a few barrows of soil.

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Who needs the gym?

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Three weeks ago, I installed a top-bar beehive in my orchard

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and now it's swarming season and a local beekeeper, Gareth Baker,

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has arrived with a swarm for me.

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So Nigel's been told to stay inside for the time being.

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All right, so fill me in, Gareth, on what we're going to do.

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Well, we've got the skep there, swarm of bees,

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we have got an amazing amount of bees in here. 5,000, 10,000...

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-Oh, look at them.

-..maybe more.

-How dangerous is that?

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These bees have got nothing to protect, no point to prove,

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they're just looking to move house

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and the sooner they're ensconced somewhere nice, warm and dry...

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Well, I've got a nice warm, dry top-bar hive, so what do we do?

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You're tipping them out.

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Yeah, we just gently tip them out on the ramp

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and the bees will just gently run up the ramp.

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Look at that, how extraordinary is that?

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What an amazing thing. And you collected that swarm, did you?

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That was a beautiful swarm of bees

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hanging in the tree, put the skep underneath, shook the branch,

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they all dropped in and away they went.

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And in terms of beekeeping, what do we need to do?

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Because if you come with a swarm and put it on there,

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what's the next step in terms of management?

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The one thing that's...brilliant about Britain is we've got a vast

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array of beekeeping associations and groups,

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so there's all that information,

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mentoring and assistance

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as to what you can get done with your bees, where to put them...

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So if anybody wants to do this,

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contact your local beekeepers association and they will guide you

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and instruct you and maybe give you courses that you can follow.

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Yeah, there's a vast array of all sorts of courses.

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So is it best now just to leave them

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or do we have to stand and guide them until they're all in?

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-It's one of the things we leave the bees to get on with.

-All right.

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What bees get on with best.

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And if they're flying around like this, how likely are they to sting?

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-Because a lot of people are worried about that.

-No.

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With a swarm, they're exceptionally gentle.

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However, if you've got a swarm of bees in your garden,

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get a hold of the local beekeeping association,

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the British Beekeeping Association have actually got a swarm line

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that... You can get hold of somebody that will then come round

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and remove the swarm and rehouse it somewhere else.

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What I'm fascinated by...is how they are organising themselves.

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You know, you can see this drift up.

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Look, they're beginning to collect around the mouth.

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Yeah, here we go, they're starting to go in now.

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Look at that, there they go.

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It's like sand going through an egg timer, isn't it?

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They can't get in quick enough, can they? These are worker bees?

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All the workers are females, all unfertilised females.

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There's a few drones in here which are the male bees,

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which are larger, fatter bees. And the drones don't sting.

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The queen is about a third longer than a worker bee.

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-And there is one queen per swarm?

-That's it.

-Right.

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Oh, I see, there's the queen.

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She's a bit shy and cold, so she's just burrowing under the bees.

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One of the amazing things about gardens

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is when you look at the countryside, it's green.

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When you look at aerial views of gardens,

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they are just awash with forage.

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If we were in an urban or even suburban back garden,

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we could have 50 different households

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-within the bee's range or more.

-Yes.

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How does that change things?

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Urban beekeeping is obviously not quite as straightforward

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as rural beekeeping, but bees have existed in towns and cities

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for years, whether it be in your back garden

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or in the church steeple.

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You have to be aware of people.

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If you're a bit concerned, get hold of local associations because

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none of us want bees to be in the press for the wrong reasons.

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Right. So gardens and bees make very good companions.

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Well, we'll let those do their thing for a bit,

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we're going to have a cup of tea.

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Gareth, thank you very much indeed for coming and helping me out,

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I shall probably be on the phone asking for more advice.

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-I'm always there, but this will go according to plan.

-Brilliant.

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Now, we went to visit a garden in the Lake District

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made by David Kinsman and Diane Hewitt

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where not only is extreme skill shown by the gardeners,

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but, at every opportunity,

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they've encouraged nature to play just as active a part.

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We moved here in 1981.

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It was pretty well derelict and we gradually

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worked our way through, up the hill, round the land.

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We planted a few plants,

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but apart from that, we've not really interfered with it very much.

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That's part of our gardening philosophy. You work in an area

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and when you leave it, it shouldn't look as though you've worked in it.

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Let the plants tell you the story,

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let the mosses tell you the story. That's really, I think,

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the fundamental thing behind our style of gardening.

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We knew the quarry was here

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and we knew it'd been a garbage tip for 200 or 300 years.

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It had been filled up with old refrigerators and washing machines.

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We'd been to Japan, we'd seen Japanese gardens

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and we liked the idea of that being a Japanese-influenced area

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but we let it go, we let the mosses and everything else take over.

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Japanese gardeners dominate the landscape,

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but we've done very little, so it's a very different approach

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giving, in some ways, a rather similar end product.

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The north-west of England, Lakeland, has a very wet climate

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and here we get about 70 inches of rain a year.

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We're surrounded by plants that thrive under those

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temperate rainforest conditions.

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Many different types of rhododendron, for example,

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Enkianthus just by us here, many different sorts of camellias.

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All these plants are able to withstand the rainfall,

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in fact, enjoy the rainfall.

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Most of them are rather shallow rooted,

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which is good because we have very little soil here on this hillside.

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We've done, really, very little except stand back and watch.

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The area is predominantly, now,

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populated by one of our native mosses.

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The common one in this garden, Polytrichum formosum,

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it just will slowly cover any horizontal surface

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or anywhere with just a little bit of soil.

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And the Polytrichum, from about now onwards,

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will develop these little spore capsules which are a golden colour.

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It's really beautiful and very different

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from what it looked like a month ago.

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We've not moved or planted any ferns or mosses or lichens,

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we've looked at what's arrived and then we've tweaked it.

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What we do is to clear leaves and fallen twigs

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and so on off the surface

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because these plants still need light.

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And otherwise sit back on a seat and enjoy what has arrived.

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This is the most formal part of the garden

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and it's the last part of the garden that we actually did anything with.

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We knew from the 1910 OS map that there was a spring here,

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so David built this grotto

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and then we realised that the grotto area was being colonised by this.

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It's a British native.

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Started off as a small patch, has spread. We like them, they like us.

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If they want to live and we want them,

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then we just have it and they go for it.

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The moss part started life as an access route down between

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some birch trees but over time,

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the mosses built up into these beautiful mounds

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and then about ten years ago,

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we thought it would look good with a little bit of gravel

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down the middle. Slightly narrower at the top, wider lower down,

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so it gave you the sense of a river increasing in volume down the hill.

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We pass it every time we go up into the woods

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and your head always swings round to check the moss part is still there.

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We are only custodians, all of us on earth just occupy a small

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amount of space and we're not going to be here for very long.

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It's not a legacy. In 30 years' time, it should just go back...

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-Like us, it should decay slowly and gracefully.

-Or disgracefully.

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Please.

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Windy Hall is just one of the gardens you can visit this weekend.

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I love that garden and certainly,

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if I'm up in that part of the world, I want to go and visit it.

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I sowed a number of giant sunflowers

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and I'm going to plant one in each of the four beds in this

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sunny side of the cottage garden and I will monitor their growth

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and we'll see which one does the best.

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So, planting them is easy enough.

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Sunflowers will grow in most soils,

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they don't need any special treatment but they do need sunshine.

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So don't expect them to grow so well in shade.

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You can see, nice plant, good root system on the outside.

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Funnily enough these were watered this morning and they're dry.

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Now, the crucial thing is not so much the soil

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because this is good soil with plenty of organic matter added

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over the years, but they must be staked properly from the beginning.

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Keep them watered, water them once a week

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and if you really want to go for maximum height,

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you could feed them with a general-purpose sort of tomato feed

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once a week or once a fortnight.

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Now, to start with,

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I've got a cane but I'm expecting this to be a giant,

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so I have a giant stake for it and, in fact,

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I've bet the director on tonight's programme

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that my sunflowers will be taller than these Irish yews.

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Be prepared for more than a cane,

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a cane will not support a giant sunflower, it does need to be

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a stake of some kind but we'll start with a cane like this.

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Plant it in nice and firmly...

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..like that and I've got some twine and it's really important

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to tie it as it grows because it's going to be big,

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it'll be top-heavy and there's a real risk of it

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bending and flopping, if not breaking.

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And if you want maximum height, it's got to grow as straight as possible.

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So that's Pike's Peak and our Mongolian Giant Kong

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and Giant Yellow will go in the other four beds

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at this end of the cottage garden and we can monitor their progress,

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but the planting of them will be exactly the same and,

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of course, I will water that in really well.

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This is sweet rocket and we always feel that it belongs here

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because it pops up in the garden and was one of the very first plants

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that appeared as a self-sown seedling.

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And I love it for

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its exuberant, light touch.

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It is a plant of May and early June,

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and it blesses us for a few weeks

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and then moves on, and you get these lovely seed heads.

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But I can't imagine Longmeadow being without it.

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Now, Windy Hall, which is open this weekend as part of the

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National Gardens Scheme Festival, is an exceptionally wet place.

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But Carol has been to see a garden near Bedford that is also

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open this weekend that is exceptionally dry.

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The thing about going to any National Gardens Scheme garden is,

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you never know quite what to expect.

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It is always so exciting, and this looks pretty promising, doesn't it?

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Stop that and show me your lovely garden. It's beautiful!

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-It's phenomenal.

-Thank you.

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It's designed to take effect of the slope and the fact that it's

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a dry garden, even though it's actually raining today.

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Greensand is basically what this sandstone is,

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and we are halfway along the Greensand Ridge Walk

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that goes from Leighton Buzzard to Gamlingay.

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So, what does that mean, in terms of gardening?

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-Dry, very sandy.

-Free draining?

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Incredibly free draining, and lots of...almost builder's sand.

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So, who's constructed these walls?

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Partly my husband. We tried to keep it in keeping with the local area.

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-So, did the slope come right down here first of all?

-Yes.

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The hill followed the line of that wall, so we had to dig out

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about 40 lorry loads of soil

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-before we could even start building the house.

-Wow.

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-And the garden has taken us about 20 years.

-I mean, it's spectacular.

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It's exciting when you come round the corner. It's dramatic, isn't it?

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It is. And we do find, when we have people that haven't been

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to the garden before, initially, it looks like this is the garden.

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It looks like a courtyard space.

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And then they suddenly realise that, actually,

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"Oh, there's a set of steps and there is a footpath."

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-There's more than this?

-There's more than this.

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-Can we go and have a look, then?

-Let's go and see.

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Mind your step.

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These are what you call difficult conditions, aren't they?

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How do you actually, physically garden here, Kate?

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-Well...

-Do you have to abseil?

-Not quite,

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but when we built the garden, we tried to put plants in so they

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gave you a natural space to walk through, and then you've got

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natural areas where you can stand on the root ball at the back.

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Then we've got stones that are flat that give you that space to work,

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and when it's been raining very heavily,

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it has a tendency to move and it runs down the bank.

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It erodes.

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So, it was really important that one of the things we had to think about

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when we were planting was putting plants in

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which will act as an anchor.

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I think it's interesting that at the bottom of the bank you've

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got things that actually love moisture -

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astrantias and hellebores -

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so quite a lot of that moisture must come down, too.

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If you were to do a soil test through, it's very dry at the top,

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and yet still quite moist at the bottom,

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so we tried to use that in the way that we've put the plants in.

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-Can we go on the bridge?

-Yeah.

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Wow.

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I mean, in a dry garden, to hear water all the time...

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Wildlife needs water,

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and this is just such a fantastic place.

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You sit and watch the birds, you watch the dragonflies

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in the summer, and that lovely sound of water, you get that all day.

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Very, very therapeutic.

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CAROL GASPS AND LAUGHS

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Look at this!

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It's another garden, it's another place!

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-You are in a different place altogether, aren't you?

-I know.

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It's not what you probably expect from the bottom.

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An elliptical lawn with an elliptical retaining wall.

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Which you do notice!

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-Yes.

-When you come in.

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Not many people have a pink wall in their garden.

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No, it's as much a piece of artwork as it is a retaining structure,

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but it just forms the perfect foil for these fantastic plants.

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I love the way you've picked up the colour of this

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in your planting, too -

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your pink poppies and even this,

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these pretty little fringe flowers of tellima, too.

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And stuff like this libertia, which we have seen all around your garden,

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is the perfect kind of plant for this kind of soil.

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This is one plant that obviously likes it here,

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because it has just self-seeded everywhere.

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It's a sure sign, isn't it?

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If something's really happy,

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it will seed absolutely throughout your garden.

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-And it's lovely, then, because it's a link, too, isn't it?

-It is.

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-It ties everything together.

-Yeah.

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I want to see what's up there, though. There's even more.

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-There is more.

-Come on!

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And into the herbaceous section. Isn't it splendid?

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I get the feeling this is what you really, really like.

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This is my style of gardening.

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I love herbaceous borders.

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Why did you decide that you wanted to share your garden

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and open it for the NGS?

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I get such a buzz from gardening.

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It is my sort of default setting.

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When I come in from work, come out here, cup of tea,

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little bit of weeding, sit and watch the space,

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so I want to share that with other people.

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I want to encourage young people to want to come into this space

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and, also, I'm not a runner, I'm not a baker, but I garden,

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-so, yeah, this is my marathon.

-It obviously keeps you fit.

-Yes.

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Walking up and down the slope with a few barrows of soil -

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-who needs the gym?

-Exactly.

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-Nothing better, is there?

-Not a thing.

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It's a fantastic thing to do.

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The National Gardens Scheme has got a special gardening festival

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this weekend, with over 400 gardens in England and Wales

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open to the public, and very often, there is

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a group of them, so you can visit two, three or even four in one trip.

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Do try and get out and see some because the best way to get

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inspiration for your own garden is to see what other people are doing.

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Now, these are some of the outdoor tomatoes that I'm testing to see

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if they are as blight resistant as some of them claim to be,

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or as blight resistant as possible,

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so now I'm going to plant them out in the garden.

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Knowing the right time to plant out outdoor tomatoes is very,

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very weather dependent, and will vary from place to place,

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and what you're looking for is not the days to heat up but the nights.

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I've got two different types here.

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I've got a bush type and cordon type.

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This one, Lizzano, is a bush.

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Now, essentially, bush tomatoes have lots of side shoots,

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and they all bear fruit, and they make a bush.

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You don't try and train them in any way because they resist training.

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You can see that what looks like it might be a leader,

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in fact is a truss.

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There's no single stem that you can train up into a cordon,

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whereas if I get a cordon one...

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..like this,

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which is a Fandango, you can see there is a nice,

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straight stem - I haven't trained or pinched it out in any way -

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and it wants to grow up tall and straight.

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Most tomatoes are cordon, but it's very good to grow bush ones outside,

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because they don't need training. They don't need to have support.

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You can grow them in a pot, you can grow them in a window box,

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and you can grow them in a hanging basket,

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and it worked perfectly well. So, I'm going to grow both here.

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Whatever type you grow, planting them out is much the same.

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You want a fairly sunny site,

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because you going to need sun to ripen the tomatoes, and you want to

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plant the tomatoes deeply -

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at least up to the first pair of leaves.

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What happens is, the stem then grows roots,

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you get more feed going into the plant and therefore

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better growth and better fruit, and it rocks less in the wind.

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So it's double gain.

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This bed has had lots of compost added to it.

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Tomatoes are quite greedy plants.

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Now, because this is a bush variety, I'm only going to put

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two in this space here, giving them room to develop.

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When I plant the cordons out, I'll get three in this space

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because, bearing in mind, they grow upwards,

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and they can be planted as close together as about 15 inches.

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Bushes - more like two or even three foot, if you've got lots of space.

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I am now going to put a couple of Lizzano,

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which is another bush type.

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Again, leaving a reasonable amount of space in between them.

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It would be tempting to add more, but one of the actions of blight,

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which is a fungus, is lack of airflow,

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so you need space between plants to let ventilation through.

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Cordons, on the other hand, can grow a little bit closer together.

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This is Fandango.

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There is the leader. We can train that on up.

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So, a nice, deep hole...

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..and look how deep that is going in.

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And I can get three in this space where

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I could only get two bush varieties,

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so the third one's going there, that one can go in the middle...

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Because cordons grow tall, they get floppy,

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and they MUST have support.

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And at this stage,

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all I need to do is pop a cane in next to each one,

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good and firm.

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As they grow, I'll put cross struts to support them,

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but just for the moment, that's OK.

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Water your tomatoes in really well,

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and they won't need watering more than once a week.

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I don't begin to feed mine for at least another month or two,

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not till the fruit starts to set.

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And now we have to wait and see, A, if they give us good fruit

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and, B, if they are sufficiently blight-resistant to last out

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the summer so that fruit can ripen.

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Well, that's the tomatoes planted.

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Here are some other jobs you can be getting on with this weekend.

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It's time to plant out any pumpkins, squashes or courgettes.

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They like really rich soil,

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so add any compost unless your ground has been well prepared.

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I like to plant them in a shallow depression,

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which means that you can give them extra water,

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because they are hungry, thirsty plants.

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This is only a small job, but it is important.

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If you've planted any trees or shrubs this spring,

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do remember to give them

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the really good water once a week for the rest of the summer.

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This is because the roots won't be established enough to provide

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enough moisture for the new foliage that will appear over the summer.

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You can go on picking rhubarb for another month or so at least,

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but if you see any flowering stems,

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which tend to be circular rather than the flattened, edible ones,

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cut them off at the base so all the energy

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is going into producing new delicious shoots.

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The house martins are building their nests in the eaves,

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and they've done this every year since we've been here,

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so there's every reason to expect that the nest will be built,

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the eggs laid, the young hatched,

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and we might even get a second brood,

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but it's something the progress of the summer

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is measured in their activity.

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Let's see how these bees are doing.

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I've got a bee swarm in my hive. How about that?

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And I love that idea of growing plants that the bees like,

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and then the bees pollinating the plants and maybe giving me honey.

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And this way that our gardens can work with nature and foster it,

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and we benefit, and so do they.

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I could watch them for hours. However, we've run out of time.

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Don't forget that this weekend

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the National Gardens Scheme has a festival with over 400 gardens.

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Do try and get to visit some of them,

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and you can get all the details from our website.

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Carol and Joe will be reporting from Gardeners' World Live next week,

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but I will be back here at Longmeadow,

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with my bees, so I'll see you then.

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Come on, Nigel.

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