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Hello. Welcome to Gardeners' World,

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and welcome to my least favourite job of the year.

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This is a lovely bramble called Rubus tibetianus.

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But it's about as prickly as a plant knows how to be.

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And also, wherever it touches the ground

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it layers itself and makes new plants.

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And very quickly, this can become a thicket.

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So it must be cut right back to let the light in

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and then these rich, new flowers can come through.

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And I tell you what, a day like today doesn't feel like spring,

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it feels like summer.

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On tonight's programme...

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We join Frances Tophill for the last time in Barbados,

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where she visits a very special tropical garden.

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And we meet Chris Baines,

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who has changed a whole generation's approach to how we treat and value

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the wildlife in our gardens.

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I mentioned a few weeks ago

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that I was planning big changes here in the orchard.

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What I'm going to do is make a soft fruit garden

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in the middle of the orchard, so we have layers of fruit.

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But there's a lot of grass to remove

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before we can even think of planting.

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And I have, in the past,

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removed turfs with this,

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which is my grandfather's turf lifter.

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And I know he used to use it, because it's his,

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it's got his initials on it.

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MMW, Matthew Montagu Wyatt.

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And the way it worked was to cut along a line with a spade.

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And then cut out slabs where you wanted the turf to go.

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And then you got your turf lifter,

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and you put it in under like that,

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pushed down and slide it along.

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And you have a turf.

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And you do that over all the area you need to cover.

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And you'll end up sore, exhausted

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and glad you don't have to do it again.

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However, I'm going to cheat.

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I'm going to use a machine.

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This is a turf cutter.

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You can hire them from most hire shops.

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They're not expensive, and they do a good job.

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And they certainly take an awful lot of the sweat and graft

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out of clearing an area like this.

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And it doesn't matter if you're growing soft fruit,

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flowers, vegetables -

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if you've got grass and you want to grow plants,

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you've got to remove that grass before you can prepare the soil.

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And this works very simply. It's got four wheels

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and it's got a blade underneath it that just simply oscillates

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and goes underneath the turf,

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cuts it all the way along.

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And then when you've finished, you can just gather it up.

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Pretty good, eh?

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That is a lot easier than using grandpa's turfing spade.

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There's going to be an awful lot of barrel loads of turf,

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but none of it will be wasted.

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Because I'll make a turf stack.

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Now, a turf stack is made by taking individual turfs

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and stacking them grass to grass.

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Leave it for six months to a year.

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And then if you slice down through it rather than across,

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you have the roots of the turf,

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and the grass itself have all biodegraded,

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and what you get is an incredibly rich, crumbly loam.

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Loam, really, is any soil that is filled with organic material,

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which this will be.

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Brilliant for adding to potting compost,

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using to enrich a border,

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or in a big pot to give some beef to plants.

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Invaluable. So don't waste the turf.

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Well, this is exciting.

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And a dramatic new development here at Longmeadow.

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But I guess not that unusual.

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People are and have been growing soft fruit in allotments

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and gardens all over the land for centuries.

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But Frances Tophill spent her winter doing something

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that was distinctly unusual.

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Because she was working in a botanic garden in Barbados,

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lucky thing.

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And this week, we join her

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as she sets out to visit a rather extraordinary garden.

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At just under 300 square miles, Barbados is a tiny island.

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It's one of the jewels of the Caribbean.

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With its perfect, tropical climate,

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it's home to some stunning tropical plants

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and some very special tropical gardens.

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I've been here in Barbados for a while now,

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and I'm getting to know the island and the people

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and everyone is so friendly.

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But the one thing I keep hearing is,

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"You must visit this amazing garden."

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Apparently, it's magical.

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So here I am, and I'm very excited.

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This awesome garden has been created in a 100 foot deep crater,

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or sinkhole, that was once described rather cruelly

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as a useless piece of land where nothing would grow.

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Wow.

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It's just so big!

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Look at the height of those palms!

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All these orchids, you couldn't hope to get these in your house.

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And here they're just growing outside.

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It's really impressive.

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Apart from rubbish,

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the only thing here were these incredible royal palms.

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Barbadian Anthony Hunt ignored local sentiment, saw the potential,

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bought the land and created a paradise.

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So Anthony, when you decided to take on the challenge,

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how did you kind of go about creating the garden that you wanted?

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Well, the first thing I had to do, of course, was build the steps.

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Because when we had the steps finished,

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once we did that then you could bring all the garbage out.

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And the same time bring down the compost,

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all the plants, all the pots.

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And really all the big plants that we needed

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to use for the landscaping. Plus the statues.

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So, in terms of your planting design,

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how would you say you approached that?

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I prefer a lot of foliage for this garden because of the shade.

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Because a lot of foliage would give it immense colour in the shade.

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This plant is an Acalypha,

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and we brought that in from Thailand.

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And that whole area was a mass of shrubs.

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And we took them all out.

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And as you can see, there's a seating area in there now.

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Anthony also has a novel way of using pots

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to make the most of the warm Bajan climate.

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We have these big dishes,

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because you can instantly move them back to the nursery,

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or move them to another area where it's sunny.

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We can see the Spathoglottis.

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Right now, full sun there.

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But if the sun moves off them,

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then maybe we'll put Anthuriums there.

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And then when you see the Anthuriums,

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-oh, they're beginning to burn, then you move them.

-OK.

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I have a huge collection of Bromeliads,

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and I can march them around without any difficulty at all.

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Do they like sun or shade?

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-Some like sun, some like shade.

-OK!

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But you can just march them around.

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But, because they have a really stiff leaf,

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you have to be really careful.

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Because if you take one out of deep shade

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and then you move it into direct sun,

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you can have burning.

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So it's knowing your plants.

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And knowing your garden.

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Knowing the plants, knowing the garden,

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and know where it's come from.

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Anthony is constantly tweaking and refreshing the plants in his garden,

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and grows many of them himself.

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He uses one method, called air layering,

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that encourages roots to grow from the stem of an existing plant.

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So first thing you do is tear off the leaves like this.

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Get them off.

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And about one inch, you just take a knife or a secateurs,

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-you take the skin off all the way around, OK?

-OK.

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And then, on this piece that you've got,

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where there's no bark,

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you put rooting powder.

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-Now, this is a hard wood cutting.

-Yeah.

-So I use for hard wood.

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Once the flesh of the stem is exposed, the area is wrapped

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in damp compost and covered with foil to keep it moist.

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When the new roots have developed,

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the stem is cut below these new roots, creating a new plant.

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While the mother plant continues to flourish.

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It's a simple but effective technique

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that can be used in the UK, mainly on shrubs.

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This is one that's been air layered about six weeks ago,

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and we have a new plant to put anywhere else in the garden.

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I just want to say as well,

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six weeks in Barbados is not six weeks in the UK.

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I doubt very much you'd have roots like this after six weeks.

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The answer really is to, when you come on holiday,

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you want to air layer your plants.

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Bring them on holiday for two months to Barbados.

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SHE LAUGHS

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The great thing about this garden is it's full of these little intimate,

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smaller spaces that force you to stop and take in the views.

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And it's a really great design tool for anyone with a big garden.

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But if you had a small, urban plot like this,

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that might be a house next to you.

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And he's put these huge bananas in.

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Anything that's big can make the whole space

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feel enclosed and really, really intimate.

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The thing about this garden that's so noticeable is that it's

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absolutely crammed full of plants.

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If you weren't careful, you could very easily walk around without ever

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looking up, just looking at all the different things.

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And crucially, all those plants are really foliage-driven,

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just a few little accents of small, incidental flowers.

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But then you get down to the very bottom of the sinkhole here

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and it's a big, open space,

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and it gives you a real chance for the first time

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to take in that amazing view and that steep slope.

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What does it feel like, that this is your garden?

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It's just an incredible feeling.

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Every morning to wake up on site, overlooking the garden.

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I just can't wait to get in the garden

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with the cool morning air and just enjoy.

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It is interesting how often that an unlikely location

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brings out the creativity in gardeners.

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You do find that you get these stunning gardens

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in sites that have been written off by an awful lot of people.

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But lovely to see it.

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Now, going from the exotic to the ordinary, but sometimes sublime.

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Because it's potato-planting time.

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And anybody who grows any veg at all, sooner or later,

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is going to grow some spuds.

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But they do take up an awful lot of room,

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and if you haven't got an allotment or a garden big enough

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to give over to rows of potatoes, you may be put off.

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But don't be.

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Because you can grow potatoes very successfully in a bag.

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Now, it could be a bin bag.

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It could be an old shopping bag.

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But you can buy special potato-growing bags.

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And actually, these are very good.

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Because they're strong

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and they've got holes in the bottom for drainage.

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And you can reuse them.

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And they just do the job very nicely indeed.

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You can buy a peat-free potting compost,

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and that be fine and they'll grow perfectly well.

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I'm actually adding a little bit of home-made compost.

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That's going to get them going to a good start.

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Right.

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And fill it half full.

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Now, logic says that a bag that size

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would need no more than one seed potato.

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Because when you're planting them out in the ground,

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you would space them 18 inches,

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sometimes two foot apart, if they're main crop.

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But it has been found that if you crowd them in a bag,

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you actually get a better crop.

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So I'm going to put three in a bag that size.

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Now, this is a variety called Orla,

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and they'll be ready to harvest about the beginning of July.

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And you can see, there's a little eye there.

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And that's the shoot that's going to produce the foliage.

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If you've got three or four, rub the extras off.

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You only need one.

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Pop them in with the eye sticking up.

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And then cover them over with more compost.

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And then, when the foliage reaches the top of the bag,

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you can earth it up by covering it with more compost.

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And that will encourage better tuber formation

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and also stop any risk of them getting green.

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Because where the tubers see the light,

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they turn green and then they're poisonous and no good.

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So you've got to keep them covered with soil.

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You don't need to put that anywhere warm.

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You don't need to water it at this stage,

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only water it when you start to see the growth.

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That's it. Growing potatoes is easy.

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And you'll be amazed at how delicious and satisfying

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that crop of new potatoes in July is going to be.

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Now, all of us garden presenters

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have been putting forward the argument for the one plant,

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the Golden Jubilee plant,

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that has had the most impact on the way that we garden and look at our

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gardens over the last 50 years.

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And this week, it's the chance for Mark Lane to put forward his case.

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Echinacea has undergone an explosion in popularity

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in the last 15 to 20 years.

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It was brought over in the 18th century as a herbal remedy

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from North America, and now we use it to extend the season

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from June all the way through into autumn.

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And there are wonderful cultivars, all in different colours.

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And also different shapes and forms.

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The Greek word for Echinacea is actually echinos,

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which means hedgehog.

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And it looks just like that,

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especially when it's covered in frost through the winter months.

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My favourite is Echinacea pallida.

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It's absolutely beautiful and sublime,

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and the petals are actually really elongated

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and just droop down from the central cone.

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And it just looks wonderful.

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Its impact on the naturalistic, prairie style of planting

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is why Echinacea is my Golden Jubilee plant.

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When you've heard all ten proposals,

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you'll have a chance to vote on your Golden Jubilee impact plant.

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And then we'll announce the result at Gardeners' World Live in June.

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And we'll be telling you how to that.

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Now, here at Longmeadow, we've been cutting back with a vengeance.

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The grass borders have had their annual shear.

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But in the Jewel Garden,

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I've cut back the purple hazels,

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that's let in a lot more light already.

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And you can see new, fresh growth almost by the day.

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Which makes it the perfect moment

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to lift and divide herbaceous perennials.

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Herbaceous perennials, as the name implies,

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die right back in winter

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and then start to grow very vigorously in spring.

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This is a group of Iris sibirica,

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a lovely Iris with small,

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intense blue flowers.

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And the point about doing it at this time of year is that the roots

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are really being vigorous.

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So that if you dig them up quickly and replant,

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those roots want to grow.

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They want to get out into new conditions.

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And so, instead of checking them, in many ways it stimulates growth.

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And you can see there,

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good, healthy plant, and because it will grow outwards,

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that will have renewed vigour.

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Now, I do have some Iris in here.

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I've got a clump growing in there

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and another one there.

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So I want to bulk it out.

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And the ideal place would be right here.

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I want to fill around the roots as well as possible.

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And then give it a good soak.

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It needs moisture, particularly if it's had a shock,

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which digging it up will certainly give it.

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But also, it washes the soil in around those small roots.

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And it's a really good way of making sure

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there's good contact between the feeding roots

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and the soil around it.

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What we're trying to do at this time of year

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is build the garden up so that it performs at a crescendo.

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Now, here in the Jewel Garden,

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that's going to be August, September time.

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And one of the aspects of it that I love around that time of year

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is that it is filled with glorious butterflies.

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And the growth of appreciating and valuing and encouraging wildlife

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in our gardens can be put down largely to the work of one man.

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Chris Baines, who pioneered the idea of wildlife gardening

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in the 1970s and '80s.

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And we went along to meet him.

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I grew up in Sheffield, in a family that was always out,

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always walking in the countryside, always in the garden.

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So I had a great love of nature from the very beginning.

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But I also saw most of my childhood landscape built over.

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It was, you know, the overspill area for the city.

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So the quarry pond I used to fish for newts in went,

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the hay field across the road went.

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And that, I think, coloured my life quite a lot, with hindsight.

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And through the '70s, there was a big, growing awareness

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that the countryside was not the same place that had been

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10, 15 years before.

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So the whole nature conservation movement

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was beginning to build up steam.

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But it was completely preoccupied with agriculture.

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The agricultural revolution, the loss of hedgerows.

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But nobody in the conservation movement

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really was looking at towns and cities.

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And the idea that there could be anything worth saving

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in the middle of towns never crossed the conservationists' mind.

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I'd also been working in problem housing areas

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in Brixton and Toxteth and Deptford.

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And what I'd been doing was working with kids, particularly.

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Getting them involved in growing things.

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And it became very obvious that, actually,

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you didn't need to see otters and golden eagles.

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If you could watch a ladybird walking up a plant stem,

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that was intriguing enough on the doorstep.

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And I remember at the end of the Brixton riots in '81,

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when everything was trashed and burnt out,

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nobody had touched the sunflowers on the Tulse Hill nature garden.

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Because the kids had planted them with me.

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And everybody at that estate knew that.

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So I was really convinced that, actually,

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quite modest nature conservation where people lived and worked

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had a real role to play.

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I trained in horticulture in the 1960s,

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and also I spent three years at university

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being taught how to kill everything.

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And wildlife in the garden was either a pest,

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a disease or a weed.

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And the idea that you would encourage it was just...

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Nobody had really thought about it or talked about it.

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But I think the big breakthrough came when,

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for some reason, Gardeners' World invited me to do

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a kind of makeover of a raw garden on a housing estate in Peterborough.

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And I had the choice of what I did with this garden.

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And halfway through the makeover, Peter Seabrook,

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who was presenting the programme then, said...

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Chris, what's your sort of master plan here?

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Well, I've designed what I've called a rich habitat garden.

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It's a garden to sit in, hopefully, rather than to slave away in.

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And I've also designed it, hopefully, to be attractive

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to lots of wildlife, to birds and butterflies and so on.

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And he just looked at me with one of those looks, and he said,

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"And you really think gardeners are going to be interested in that?"

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And clearly they were,

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because I produced a leaflet to go with my rich habitat garden,

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and they were inundated with requests for copies.

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12,000 people wrote in for a copy in the first two or three days.

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By the middle of the '80s,

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I really felt that there was

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a message that needed to be communicated there.

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And three things came together.

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First of all, I decided that,

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if I was going to ever reach the horticultural establishment,

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Chelsea Flower Show was the place to go.

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So I created the very first wildlife garden

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at Chelsea Flower Show in '85.

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And the RHS was so confused by that, that on the medal,

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it's inscribed to JC Baines for his "wildfire garden".

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Because they clearly couldn't believe anybody would be

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crazy enough to have wildlife and garden in the same sentence.

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The public loved it. Absolutely loved the garden.

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Full of primroses and violets and so on.

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The second thing was that I moved house

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and decided that actually filming the change in the garden

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over a year would be a great thing to do.

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And I made a programme called Bluetits And Bumblebees,

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which took a very plain and ordinary garden and over the space

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of 12 months put in a pond, grew the flowers and the wildlife came.

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And the third thing was that I wrote a book,

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How To Make A Wildlife Garden,

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because it was obvious that people wanted help,

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they needed lists of plants, they needed to know what to do.

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And those three things really made a difference.

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I never felt that there was a need for a complete change.

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What I've always wanted

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is for ordinary people with ordinary gardens

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to just tweak things a bit.

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Not to turn them all into nature reserves, but rather to say,

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"Well actually, yeah,

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"my little garden could make a bit of a difference

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"to the wider landscape, and give me more pleasure."

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And now, if you go into any garden centre,

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you're confronted by just mountains of bird food

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and bird feeders and nest boxes.

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So there's been a complete revolution in many ways.

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And from a conservation point of view,

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it's very clear that all of those gardeners making

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a little bit of difference in their own patch

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has been the salvation of frogs and dragonflies and goldfinches

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and a whole range of species.

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And that gives me a great buzz, even now.

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Well, Chris has inspired and influenced a whole generation

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to value wildlife and see it as an important part of the garden.

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However, sometimes wildlife can be a little bit of a challenge.

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Here in a tulip bed, I noticed yesterday a rabbit hole.

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So I filled it in.

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Came out this morning, and the little blighter

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has dug in exactly the same place.

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I think even the patience of the Sainted Chris Baines

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might be stretched by that rabbit.

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Come on.

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Well, the weather's been all over the shop today.

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We have blazing sunshine, it's been quite chilly.

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So let's see what the weather is going to be like for you

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over the next couple of days.

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Well, at this time of year,

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sometimes it's hard to know where to begin in the garden.

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So here are three jobs you can focus on.

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Epimediums are among the most elegant of all spring flowers.

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But this can be hidden by last year's foliage.

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So trace the delicate stems of the foliage right back to the ground

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and cut them off.

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This will reveal the flowers in all their graceful glory.

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If you grow gooseberries and leave them unpruned,

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they can become a spiny tangle.

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So cut away the centre of the bush,

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looking to create an open goblet shape.

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This will get more light to the fruit.

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It will improve ventilation, which will avoid mildew.

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And also be much less likely to suffer from gooseberry sawfly.

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There's a wide choice of herbaceous perennial

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available in garden centres at the moment.

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But many of them are in three-inch pots, and very small.

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It's quite early to be planting out.

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However if you buy them now,

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pot them on in a bit of potting compost, put them to one side,

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and in a month's time, they'll be bigger, stronger,

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healthy plants and you will have saved yourself a lot of money.

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This is the turf stack I was telling you about.

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With the turfs that the turf cutter has lifted,

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we have them grass side there.

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Place it down so it's grass on grass.

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This will build up. And in six months' time,

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will have rotted down and make a lovely loam.

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Well, we'll have to wait for that.

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And also wait for our next programme,

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because that's it for today.

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But I'll see you back here at Longmeadow next time.

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Till then, bye-bye.

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