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If you turn your back on the town, if you take that village track up an unmade road, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
you'll find something absolutely extraordinary. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Wales's hidden houses. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
In this series, I'll be stepping back in time, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
going over the threshold of some extraordinary places. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
I'll be revealing secrets and I'll be seeking out scandal packed histories. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
Bricks and mortar will never seem the same again. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Today we're in South Wales, in a house that has been renovated by a couple of silver surfing go-getters. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:36 | |
We are doing it ourselves basically. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Originally the home of an English upstart who became an aristocrat. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
I think he was probably a good squire, because he was as hard as nails. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
It's a castle built to keep people out. It's now welcoming the locals back in. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:55 | |
-I'll go and get a knife. -Why is she going to get a knife? | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-I'm now slightly worried. -Slit your throat! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Somewhere at the end of one of these incredibly long and skinny roads | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
you get in the Vale of Glamorgan, there is Plas Llanmihangel. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
And it is an extraordinary house with a very dense history. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
That, I am not surprised by. Look at that. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
That is Hogwartsian architecture at its most spunky. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:34 | |
What a drive. Oh, my goodness. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Obviously designed to repel all boarders. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Hang on, hang on, almost there. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
It's about keeping people at bay obviously, this house. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
Because, if you survive the drive, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
and I'm not sure I'm going to, then... | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
the next problem... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
..is battling the battlements... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
and getting through the front door. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
In the 12th century, Plas Llanmihangel was owned by a Norman knight and is described as a grange. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
It was probably a one-storey building, not the magnificent gentry house we have here today. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
Now it's owned by Sue Beer and her architect husband David. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
And they have, for the past 20 years, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
been realising their ambition to turn this imposing ramshackle castle | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
into a home which everybody can enjoy. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
How on earth did you two come to take on something of this magnitude? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:52 | |
-We were seeing a cousin of mine that we hadn't seen for 30 years. -Yes. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
-And we thought, being English as we are, that South Wales was full of chimneys. -Right. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
And we were so surprised that we asked him to bring us for a drive around the area. And he came... | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
-In July. -In July, yes. -When it was lovely and sunny. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
And he came outside the house and stopped, got out, and said, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
"There you are, David, it's going for a song." | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Just how little was that song? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-£139,000. -That's a very, very little song. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-For this size. -And 12 acres. -When was that? | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
-'88. -In July, 22 years ago. -22 years ago. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
Because, the other thing is, it was a big project to be taking on. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
What do you mean?! | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
You weren't straight out of short trousers, were you(?) | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
You forget, through your lifespan, you have a whole series of, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
-if you're lucky, surges to different things. -And this was a surge. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:57 | |
You took this on when so many people | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
are thinking of downsizing, not upsizing. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
-And not just upsizing, but up, up -, -upsizing to something | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
that required the most enormous amount of renovation work. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-But it was the challenge. -Yes, we love it. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
The whole work, we were determined to have that done properly. We are doing it ourselves, basically. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
And, of course, because it is all their own work, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Sue and David have no idea how much they have spent on the renovation. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
All they know is it has taken them 20 years, that cash is always tight. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
And that there's forever something left to do. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Let's go in, because I am intrigued by your castle. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
-It is a castle. -A little castle. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-A teeny castle. -It's a fortified manor house. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-It's a pint sized castle. -Defensive too. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Very stony, isn't it? There's a lot of stone. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
It's built of stone. It's a stone area. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
It is a stone area. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
-Go a bit further north in Wales and you have timber. -Timber, yes. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Certainly, there was a real sense of wanting to... What, keep people out or keep people in here? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:47 | |
Definitely to keep people out. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
It hasn't worked, has it? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Well, we leave the door open. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
And who were they trying to keep out? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Well, in the 12th century, it would have been about | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
keeping out the marauding Welsh, keen to get their hands on whatever treasures lay inside. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
Really, by the sound of it, around here, it's like the Wild West. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
Wales was very Wild West. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Why bother working when you can go and break into that fat, plump looking farmhouse. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-There's bound to be food there. -Exactly. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
These bolts fascinate me. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
I have never seen this before, and it is such an ingenious and very simple solution. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
I'm thinking about having it installed to keep the choir back in my village at bay. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
It's a very simple means, isn't it? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Because you don't get a pull bar until you build it in when you're building a structure. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
So you can't do it after the event? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
You've got to think about this as you are actually doing it. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
This is all part of it. It was very much a very standard form of locking up the doors. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
So unbelievably simple, they're basically just bracing the door | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
against attack from the inside, because it comes out of that slot, goes into that slot. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
Into the keep, as it is called. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
And this is a piece of oak you can replace. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
Off the estate, yes, absolutely. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
And no need for any keys. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
What an utterly brilliant idea. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
There's a very simple way of understanding this house. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
You've got a box like that. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
With a floor going across. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
And you've basically got one house at one end, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and one house at the other. We're in the west side now. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
And then you go into the central section of the hall and then the east side. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
Today, this bit of the house accommodates the living quarters, as it did back in the 16th century. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:41 | |
Due to the fact that the bedrooms were always put in the warmest part of the house, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
which of course, back then, would have been above the kitchen. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
What an earth is all of this? Is that torture? Is that tying people...? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
No, the interesting thing was, this kitchen, and that's what it is, the kitchen, it always has been. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:01 | |
-I'll go and get a knife. -Why is she going to get a knife? I'm now slightly worried. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
To slit your throat, I suspect. Anyway, have a look. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
The point here is that this didn't exist to start with. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
The kitchen went from that wall right through to the main kitchen fire. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
She has got a knife as well. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
Oh, I see! Isn't that clever? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
-A brilliant knife sharpener. -Isn't it? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Are you allowed to do that? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
-Probably not. -Just out of interest, this being an incredibly | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
historical monument and everything, quietly great chunks falling off it. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
It's nice to see it being used. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
It should be used. These houses should be used. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Yes. What I was leading on to say was simply that the cook or cooks, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
that served the whole house, however many guests, that served the house. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
And she had nothing to sharpen her knives on to start with. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
But when this got built, and this got built because they came down here to use the stair | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
to get into the main bedrooms above. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
The main bedrooms, because the fire burns all day, all winter and so forth, a bit of heat. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
She at last got sandstone here. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
-Somewhere to sharpen their knives. -And that's what happened. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Fabulous. Oh, that will be a stair! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
I did tell you there were steps everywhere. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Mantraps everywhere. This is incredible. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
So tell me about the bread oven. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Ah. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
What they used to do was to take the hot ash from the fire, put it in the oven there, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:31 | |
heat the oven up, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
then stick your arm in to see if it's hot enough. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
And they used to then brush the ash out, put the bread in, seal the door. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
And when the door - the seal - when it cracked, the bread was done. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
Take the bread out. The bottom is full of ash. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
So you don't slice it like that, you slice it across, and you give the upper crust to the upper crust! | 0:09:52 | 0:09:59 | |
I see. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
And the servants have the stuff with all the ash in. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
That'll be handy for the pub quiz. But look, knives again. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-Once you've sharpened your knife on the door jamb... -Just turn it round | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
and they come out absolutely polished. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
-It's wonderful, very decorative. Very, very decorative. -Yes. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
Have you not got any contemporary labour-saving device? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-It doesn't look like it. -We try not to. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-Are you not tempted to go and buy yourself something that plugs into the mains? -Not really. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
Sue and David have known each other for 40 years. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
But for the first 20, Sue was married to someone else. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
As Shakespeare once said, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
"The course of true love never did run smooth." | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
It does sound very much like a kind of a romantic novel, I think, the fact that you've come together | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
and done this, created this together. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
I think David was really, really frightened when I turned up at his door. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
I mean, it's one thing to have a lovely relationship with somebody. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
It's another thing when they knock on the door and say, "I'm here!" | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
When you came here... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Obviously David, as an architect, has very specific uses for here. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
What were you bringing here, do you think? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Other than your effervescent personality! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
No, actually, I am an extremely hard worker. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
And obviously I've done plastering and I've done painting, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
all of those sorts of physical things. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
But really, he's the person who's put, physically, the place together. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
And we needed money. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
We're not rich people. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
And so the house has always had to earn its living, and I was good at that side of it. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
And the way they earn that living is running a B&B. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Albeit a rather superior one. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
We make a good team actually, don't we? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
-Oh, yes, we do. -When we're doing the bed and breakfast, we've got our own jobs in the morning. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
We're fine as long as we don't speak! | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
It's interesting, because we have been reducing the time factor | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
between rising and appearing downstairs, and then starting the laying out. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
You speak for yourself! | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
I know it's a bit of a hard way... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Well, you stayed up too late last night. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-I know. -Ooh! -Well, I didn't say a thing about it. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
She knows, though. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-It's the one eye open. -I think she thought she'd got away with it as well. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
Oh, no. You never get away with anything with David. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
I just go a bit quiet. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
She gives it away when she heads for the door and nearly misses it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
The glorious thing about this house is it's always been used. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
-And I love it. -With a project like this, you're going to have that. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I would imagine that so many people would never have got this far, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
because it is... It must have been so daunting. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
No, we never found it daunting at all. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Were they never moments when you were just wandering around, and thought, this is too big? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
No, never, not even once. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
-Not even vaguely. -So that will be "no" then(?) | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Not much is known of Llanmihangel's Norman ancestry. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
We know that something existed here. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
But from about 1500 to 1685 | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
it was the seat of one of Wales's oldest aristocratic families, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
the Thomases. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
This is stunning, absolutely stunning. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
It's the main room of the house at the moment. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
And this is the oldest bit, isn't it? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-The hall. -The hall, yes. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-Yes. -Well, the oldest bit is underneath this. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
This is the oldest pretty bit, then? | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
The other bits are quite nice! | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
It's rather lovely. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
The whole atmosphere in here is just absolutely... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
what you want, really, from a manor house. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
This fireplace is amazing. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-What's the heraldry? -The quartering of the marriage couple of the early Thomas family. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
And then, as is common in Wales, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
as long as you can establish a relationship, however tenuous it is, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
to other families, usually the great families, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
then you're allowed to portray it, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
because that tells any Welshman coming in that would recognise these, and they would, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
the relationship of the current family of Thomas to these great families in Wales. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
They're bigging themselves up, aren't they? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
-They are, in a sense. It's quite legit. -It's like leaving your address book open | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
when you've got people coming round, so that you can see | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Jamie Oliver's number and Madonna's number. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Is that what you do, do you? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Yeah, I do! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
They're always doing it to me! | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
Obviously, you two love it as somewhere to entertain, and judging by the lovely long table... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:36 | |
Just being here. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
Exactly, drinking in the history. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
I find that fascinating, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
because to have that dirty great big coat of arms | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
above the door seems...slightly unusual for a drawing room. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:52 | |
Well, I suppose you're right about that, but it wasn't only just a drawing room, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
this was also a courtroom on... We don't know what. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
Monthly, something like that, a court was held here. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
The dungeons are downstairs for those that were brought up, and the sheriff, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
that's what we're talking about. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
And that's the Tudor coat of arms. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
I was going to say, we can date that quite well, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
because for the one and only time, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
you've got the red dragon of Wales as part of the English coat of arms. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
Which means that this was a household loyal to the throne. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Between 1485 and 1603, the dragon formed part | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
of the arms of the Tudor dynasty to signify their Welsh ancestry. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
In the 17th century, it was replaced by a unicorn, by order of James I. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
This was a courtroom. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
This was right at the centre of the house because it's the big, grand house. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:51 | |
Yeah, but the Thomases owned it, but they had gone to higher realms, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
and where do you go? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
You go to London, where all society is, and you've got your huge estates - and they WERE huge. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:07 | |
The Llanmihangel estates were thousands of acres. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
-And that gave them the money to have the rich lifestyle that they had. -Mm. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:19 | |
But there were some responsibilities. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
So they left this place behind as a domestic dwelling, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
but it was still hugely symbolic for them | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and for the hierarchy, the status of the area. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
Yes, I think that's got it in a nutshell, really. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Now, we've searched the length and breadth of Wales | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
for some kind of pictorial evidence | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
of this esteemed Welsh family and have come up with zilch. Nada. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Absolutely nothing. All that's left | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
is the coat of arms. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
So the Thomases were the undisputed lords of their manor, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
so why rule the dynasty from a courtroom located bang in the centre of their house? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
Something I'm hoping architectural historian, Tom Lloyd, will be able to tell me. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:15 | |
He can do it in his great hall, sitting at his big table at the top | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
with the local jury sitting down at the side tables, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
and he could terrify his tenants, which is what he wanted to do. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
That would be fun, better than chasing sheep. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
In those days, you had to try and keep law and order on your estate, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
because the local landlord in a place like this was the lord and master of his domain. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
The last Thomas to live here, Sir Robert Thomas, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
known with little affection as Sir Robert the Ass, was an ass at business. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
Everything he touched turned to rubbish. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Now, because we don't know what he looked like, you're having to make do with...me | 0:18:51 | 0:18:57 | |
and my personal representation of the man who brought shame and disgrace to his family name. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
Good, isn't it? Historical archives show | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
that Sir Robert Thomas the Ass had the world upon his thumb. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
All his business ventures went astray, and he was rather an unbalanced character. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
From being one of the wealthiest families in the county, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
they became one of the poorest, and eventually he was faced with the inevitability | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
of having to sell his estate. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Waiting in the wings, observing this from the shadows with an enormous chequebook and a very beady eye | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
was Sir Humphrey Edwin, Lord Mayor of London in 1697. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
ORGAN MUSIC | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
I'm wondering whether you've forgotten to put coins in the meter. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Or is this just a power cut, or are you just going for camp? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
No, it's one of the very few churches that doesn't have electricity. And long may it remain so. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
-That means you've got to pedal like fury to... -Absolutely. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
-..squeeze anything out of this. -Yes. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Here we are, exquisite church, fabulous history, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
dirty great big monument to HUMPHREY and absolutely nothing to the Thomases. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
I think that Sir Humphrey would have got rid of any sign of the Thomases, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:44 | |
because there was a certain amount of dispute about the estate, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
and he wanted to make his mark, and the Thomases had no right whatsoever... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:54 | |
to this estate. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
And that's why you've got that. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
It's a risk. No-one knows what he looks like, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
no-one knows the man and that, in a way, is weird. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
To be Lord Mayor of London and not have any kind of documentary | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
visual evidence of what the guy looked like is strange. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
But he wasn't a good squire, was he? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
He wasn't like the Thomases. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Oh, I don't think they were, either. They were just broke all the time. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
True, that's not so good! | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
But I think in one sense he was probably a good squire, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
because he was as hard as nails. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
From Lord Mayor of London to Lord of the Manor of, well, here, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
a rural hamlet in sleepy Glamorgan. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
By this stage, Sir Humph was a billionaire, a Branson in a big wig. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
In fact, a recent survey of the richest people since 1066 | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
put together by the Sunday Times places him at 236th. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And for him, having a country pile with lashings of history | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
was an essential ingredient in his social climb. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
So he came here, a celebrity squire. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
You know the kind of look - Guy Ritchie, Madonna, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Elizabeth Hurley, Elton John, Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
And Llanmihangel did indeed bring Sir Humphrey | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
the status he so desperately craved. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
His ambition to buy his way into aristocracy | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
was ultimately realised through his daughter. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Anne married a close neighbour | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
who just happened to be the heir to Dunraven Castle. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
These big houses are two a penny in the Vale of Glamorgan. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Just what was it about this place | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
that attracted the great and the good to build here? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Architectural historian Tom Lloyd thinks he has the answer. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Well, it was a wonderful place to live. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Here we are, sitting in the sun. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
The agricultural land is fantastically rich. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
The very good building stone, above all, encouraged you to build. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
If you can dig out wonderful stone from the ground easily, then you can | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
just build so much better and you can get much more carried away with it. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
It was also competitive. Once your neighbour down the road | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
builds a big house, you want to do it the same. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
And I think that stimulated a great deal because, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
in particular, in Elizabethan times show was everything. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
It was all about how grandly you were dressed | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and how grand your house was. And the more opulence | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
you could show, the higher up the league table you were. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
The reason this place had many nice houses were the shops in Cowbridge. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
You know, lovely little shops there. You can imagine them | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
all flocking here because they want to buy some potpourri. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
But in the 19th century, London was the place to be, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
and so the landed gentry | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
abandoned their countryside estates | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
in favour of town houses in the Big Smoke, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
leaving the mansions to a succession of paying tenants. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
In 1860, Llanmihangel | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
was the home of the entrepreneurial Jenkins family. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Moving forward in time, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
because I've got a picture here of the Jenkins family. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I don't know too much about them, but I do know he had three daughters, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
and his wife died, and he ended up marrying the housekeeper, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
-which kept the family together. -What did Jenkins do? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
He was a brewer and had a brewery in Cowbridge. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
And Jenkins' brewery... have we any evidence of...? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Well, I've got a... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
Oh, you see? You're so reliable. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
You're never far from a bottle, are you? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
This is absolutely true! | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
What is exceptional about this house | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
is that it's been in continuous occupation since the 12th century, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
and now it's a Grade-I-listed building, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
which should safeguard its future | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
for posterity, something Sue is already contemplating. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Eventually, David and I are going to get really old! | 0:25:11 | 0:25:17 | |
And maybe we won't be able to cope. And then | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-who takes it on? -Mm. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
And it's not going to be the person | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
-who's got the most money, that's for sure. -Mm. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Probably, hopefully, people like us, who need to have to try, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
and then you have to share it, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
because you can't manage it without sharing it. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
But the thought of somebody coming in and being somewhat pretentious | 0:25:39 | 0:25:46 | |
and closing off the house to...everyone, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
I would find that very, very difficult, and I would haunt. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-You'd come back and rattle chains? -Absolutely. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
I've been genuinely impressed | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
with the love and the warmth emanating from these two. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
I might have to go back to bed. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
Now, those are proper eggs. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
can you see they don't... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
They do everything as a team - even the breakfast. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
No, they were having... | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
And the constant, incessant renovation | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
which a house like this generates is in fact a pleasure. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
It's a way of showcasing their hard work to the world. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
Do you think that you've finished, or is it like the Forth Road Bridge, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
the Forth road bridge of love - you keep going round and round | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
in circles until you've done what you need to do? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
No, it isn't, simply because whilst we are now maintaining lots of stuff | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
that we repaired or restored 20 years ago, that's true, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
but there's still new stuff to be done | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and stuff that I've deliberately not done. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
But there is nothing lord and lady of the manor | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
about you two, is there? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
-Hopefully not. -No, I don't think so. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
-We have no intention to be. -He says very proudly! | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
But the critical thing about this place, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
and I think the thing that gives this place | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
such an extraordinarily special atmosphere, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
is the fact that both of you work so incredibly hard on it | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
But it's not something that you keep back for yourselves. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
It's not a selfish pleasure at all. It is about sharing, isn't it? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
-Well, certainly for me. -Yeah. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
-Mm. -And you? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Well, yes! | 0:27:28 | 0:27:29 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-He'll just say, "Yes, dear." -Yes, dear. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
-"Yes, dear, it's about sharing." -It's about sharing. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
When you think that this house was actually designed to repulse, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I think that David and Sue have done an extraordinary job | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
in making it quite so welcoming. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
And that's all down to them. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
That's down to their energy, their application, their eccentricity, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
if you like, all at a time when most people would, I suppose, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
have written them off and suggested | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
that they should have been mixing cocoa rather than cement. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
But, don't forget, this place was once the country seat | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
of one of the most crashing snobs in English history. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
And yes, I do mean you, Sir Humphrey. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
So it's just brilliant that these days | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
it's looked after so well by a pair of rock'n'roll lefties | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
who are actually desperate to share it with you and me. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
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