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If you turn your back on the town, if you take that village track up an unmade road

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you'll find something absolutely extraordinary - Wales's hidden houses.

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In this series I'll be stepping back in time,

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going over the threshold of some extraordinary places.

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I will be revealing secrets

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and I'll be seeking out scandal-packed histories. Bricks and mortar?

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They will never seem the same again.

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Today we are on the Isle of Anglesey

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and the birthplace of the House of Tudor.

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Every Tudor house, every Tudor fireplace, every Tudor thing

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really originated in this house, and the fact that Owain's surname,

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as it was taken to be later was "Tudur" - Tudor.

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It has been a consolation prize for spurned love.

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The Marquis did actually propose to her and she turned him down.

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It has been a hovel, near rack and ruin

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and now it is the home of a mountaineering magnate.

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It was a huge commitment, but from my point of view,

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it was a labour of love and it was a labour of love

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for the family to live in and enjoy.

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I'm on Anglesey, ancient island of myths and mist.

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Everywhere you are surrounded by hints back to its dark past

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and secretive links to the ancient Princes of Wales.

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But I am coming to this house, Plas Penmynydd because it has

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the extraordinary distinction of being the family home

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to one of the big-hitter royal brands of British history.

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For the past 800 years, it has stood in the heart of rural Anglesey.

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It is a country house without grand pretensions,

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but for such a modest building, it has got a massive history.

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From the 13th century, these lands were home to one clan

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who first ruled Anglesey as warriors and nobles,

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then they ruled the world as kings and queens of England.

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This is very much a family home and is the ancestral family home of the Tudors.

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You may know them better as Henry VII, Henry VIII and Elizabeth I.

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Today it is the home of Richard Cuthbertson, the owner of a global climbing equipment business.

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Richard bought the house 30 years ago

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and together with his former wife,

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this is where they raised their family.

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Hello. You look wonderful, very baronial.

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Very "lord of the manor" there. Nice to see you.

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Nice to meet you too, Laurence.

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How old is what I am looking at now then?

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1576. We think it was rebuilt from an earlier house at that period.

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Why do suddenly, you turn a corner in a little overgrown path,

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see this rather random collection of rocks.

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What makes you suddenly fall in love with that and make this long-term commitment to it?

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First of all it is in such a beautiful situation.

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The history of the house is to die for.

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So many interesting people have lived here

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and I was aware of that when I came to see it, of course.

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Also, it is so quiet and peaceful.

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There is something about it that people have lived here for so long

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they've obviously thought it a good place to be.

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Structurally, did it have a roof, did it have windows?

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Believe it or not, it was so overgrown here,

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that the outbuildings you see here, we didn't even know were there.

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They were completely covered by undergrowth, etc.

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The front of the house was covered in slates which were bedded in lime mortar.

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A lot of what you have done here has a real sense

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of liberating the original building from this rather...

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..mealy-mouthed suburbanisation that happened under the Victorians.

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I think, from the middle of the 1800s,

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maybe the late 1800s, the Tudors didn't have a very good press,

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for one reason, particularly here in Wales.

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Maybe the pride that you would have imagined people would have felt for their ancestral home

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was somewhat suppressed and the consequence was

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that their decorative schemes they used did not really

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emphasise the fact that it is the ancestral home.

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How do the royal family today feel about it?

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I have certainly spoken to Prince Charles about it and he is interested.

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I think one day he may well want to come here.

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-Do you keep a nice full cake tin just in case?

-Just in case.

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The best biscuits just in case he should drop by?

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-I have to keep HIS biscuits, in that case.

-Absolutely!

-I can't quite afford those!

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Let me have a look. I am intrigued by this...

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by this history and this cast of characters.

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Did you just pitch up here with your toothbrush, sit down and think,

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look at this, this is all done or was there a lot to do in here?

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There was a huge amount to do.

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To be honest, you could not even think about doing all the work.

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You just had to take it task by task.

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Admiring Richard's handiwork, what is striking is how he has managed to

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evoke medieval Wales while giving a cheeky nod to his own personality.

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Unbelievably, the Plas looked like this 30 years ago.

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But following decades of neglect, Richard spent six years

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lovingly restoring the house and outbuildings.

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It was a huge commitment, but from my point of view, it was a labour of love.

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It was a labour of love for the family to live in and enjoy.

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This is an emotional thing for you, this is a sort of real historical link.

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Yes, it was saving a very important piece of heritage from my point of view.

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It's dominated by the fireplace. That is a real eye-catcher.

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When it was built, it would have been probably

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something that people would have come from miles around to have a peek at.

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-Just to check out the fireplace.

-Check out the fireplace.

-Come and look at my inglenook.

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An inglenook doesn't go halfway, actually.

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It's big enough to have a reasonably sized party in, I think.

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This must have been a jaw dropper when you walked through the door

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to see a fireplace like this.

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When I came, in fact, there was a wall in the front here and just a small hearth in the middle.

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-Really?

-So you couldn't really tell what was behind at all.

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So part of the excitement was wondering what was behind that wall.

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So you started picking away at it.

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We sure did. On either side, we found these very interesting niches.

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It really is quite special because there is a bit of moulding around the outside,

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then above you can see the fleur-de-lys which is, of course,

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the badge of Catherine of Valois, Queen of France and Queen of England.

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And that links the house to Catherine of Valois and therefore, it is a very important find.

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A lovely house, but it is not dead posh, it is not dead grand,

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it is not terribly royal feeling, why on earth is there an emblem of

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Queen of France/Queen of England?

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The person who was born and lived here, Owain Tudur, married her

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after the death of her husband, her first husband, Henry V.

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That, of course, is the connection of the Tudor line with this house

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and with its famous ancestry afterwards.

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-This is Tudor central?

-Absolutely.

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This is the absolute starting point from which anything Tudor comes?

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Nothing would have been called Tudor if it hadn't been for Owain Tudur

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living here and having that very romantic liaison with Catherine.

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Every Tudor house, every Tudor fireplace, every Tudor thing

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really originated in this house, and the fact that Owain's surname,

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as it was taken to be later was Tudur, Tudor.

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Fascinating. Let's have a talk about Owain.

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Owain Tudur anglicised his name to Owen Tudor,

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later becoming the grandfather of Henry VII,

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great-grandfather of Henry VIII,

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and great-great-grandfather of Elizabeth I.

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We know that Owain left Anglesey behind round about 1425

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to make a name for himself at the English court

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and he managed that all right.

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The swaggering Anglesey lad caught the eye of the attractive young widowed queen of Henry V.

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During a marriage that scandalised society, Catherine and Owain had five children.

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Amazingly, within 60 years of Owain's arrival in London,

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his grandson was crowned Henry VII, and a new world order had begun.

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But, just how did the young Welsh warrior Owain become the godfather of the Tudor dynasty?

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We do have some descriptions of him.

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We know he was tall, that is for sure.

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More than one description describes him as handsome,

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we know that he was a good dancer, he was brave, a good swordsman,

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so I think he would be a very fine figure.

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And there is the wonderful legend of the dowager Queen Catherine

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looking out of her window one day at the river and seeing him

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go down there and bathe and thinking what a fine figure of a man he was.

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He was appointed as Keeper of the Wardrobe in the Queen's entourage.

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-He was her Gok?

-Well, not quite!

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I think it was more of a name for a position.

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-He wasn't re-accessorising her and bringing in a cinched-in waist there.

-I don't believe so.

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But it was a high position in court, so he must have been well thought of

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and I think that gave him access to the body of the Queen,

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as they would say, not literally, of course.

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But moving in those circles did mean they would see each other

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and, of course, the famous scene in Shakespeare where he stumbles and falls into her lap

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is often seen as the beginning of their romance.

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Tudor is such an incredibly big name to deal with

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in historical terms, it is the big royal brand.

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Henry VIII, Elizabeth I,

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and to think that these two world-changing monarchs

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actually derive from your fireplace is extraordinary?

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It is extraordinary, but somehow it encapsulates the energy,

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the bravery and the self-reliance that Owain had.

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It almost feels as if this is one of the great moments

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where a bit of energy and a bit of ability

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is let into the British royal line by, you know,

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taking this guy that could survive on his wits

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rather than on his inheritance,

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-and it's like opening a door and letting the light in.

-Absolutely.

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Then, through Henry VII, and obviously Henry VIII

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and Elizabeth I,

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you get these intelligent, decisive, charismatic monarchs.

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Well, I think the Tudor monarchy brought about the Renaissance within Britain.

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And they brought a completely new style.

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The old order really died with Richard III

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and the new order came with Henry VII.

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It seems that there is a very defined sort of Welshman

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that can survive very well in England

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with very little material resource,

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but through charm and mercurial tact and energy.

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-Somewhat like yourself!

-I'm beginning to see myself in all of this,

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exactly, in a foreign court!

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But, long before the House of Tudor was making its royal mark on the world,

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Plas Penmynydd was the local power base for Owain's ancestors.

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As you come out of the house,

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you suddenly realise that it's almost like a little village here.

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You would expect outbuildings, but these are quite regular little hutches, almost.

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The palace of a nobleman would have seven buildings.

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It was quite usual, certainly in medieval times,

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for the household offices - bakery, dairy, kennels, stable -

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all to be in separate buildings, and the kitchen, too.

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So the likelihood is that the hall would have been used for feasting and sleeping

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and then each of the outbuildings might have been used

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for a particular domestic purpose.

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Back then, you were the top of a community.

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Without you, nobody got fed, nobody got watered.

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I think that is exactly right.

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They actually ran the court system as well,

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-so even justice was dispensed by...

-Well, there was no real centralised power

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other than the disembodied concept of a royal family many, many hundreds of miles away.

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But actually, on a day-to-day basis,

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you or I, at the top of our tree, would have been him.

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Yes.

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What is becoming obvious to me

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is that Owain's Welsh blood acted as rocket fuel to the English crown.

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Owain himself was descended from ancient Welsh princes and nobles.

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Some of them are buried here at the Tudor family church up the road.

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Everywhere you look there are signs of brand Tudor,

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from the coat of arms to Henry VII's Tudor rose insignia.

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I'm hoping that historian Anthony Carr will shed a bit of light on

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how the Tudor's Welsh pedigree helped Owain's grandson, Henry, secure the English crown.

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Where does the Tudor dynasty start?

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Well, as the ruling house, it starts, of course, with Henry VII's victory

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at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

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And then, once Henry is proclaimed King of England,

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then that is the start of the Tudor age.

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Actually, Henry VII didn't really have anything like

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the right kind of claim to be King of England, did he?

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No, he was lucky. Henry was the right man in the right place.

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He had the credibility in Wales

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because he is connected to all these people, he is related to so many of them.

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To the Welsh gentry, he was one of them.

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-They could see in him what could be open to them all.

-Perfect.

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And then, once you get the Tudors on the throne, there is a feeling that all doors are open for Welshmen.

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The thing about Henry VII is that actually, his son and heir, Henry VIII,

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his terrible insecurity about not having a son,

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which leads him to kill wives and divorce wives and goodness knows what,

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is very much down to the fact that he knows it is a parvenu dynasty.

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It is, yes, and there are threats to it.

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You can understand Henry, really,

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that he is driven by this need for a male heir

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because of the fear that if he doesn't,

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then the civil war of a generation earlier might be repeated,

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and that was the worst thing that could possibly happen.

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I have a certain amount of sympathy for Henry VIII in that.

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Owen Tudor wasn't just an Anglesey lad made good.

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He was an Anglesey lad made extremely good.

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What he didn't know that his grandson Henry

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would end up at the very top of that ladder, as English king.

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And after Henry, Henry VIII, Elizabeth I,

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two of the most iconic monarchs the British throne would ever see.

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But what was wonderful was that the House of Tudor made sure they repaid that debt to the Welsh.

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For the first and only time in history, a badge of Wales, the dragon of Cadwallader,

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becomes absorbed into the national insignia and symbology of Britain

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for the first and only time.

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It clear to me now that the Tudors' dynamism and resourcefulness is down to their Welsh roots.

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Their rule lasted 118 years from 1485 to 1603,

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and Tudor genes are an important ingredient of today's Royal Family.

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Thanks to Richard's restoration, Plas Penmynydd now proudly bears

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the Tudor coat of arms once again, and reminders of their blood link to this house are everywhere.

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Rather reluctantly, I am going to have to say goodbye

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and move on from the lover, the legend that was Owen Tudor.

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But history in this house didn't stop with him.

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For a start, there was the extraordinary week when Oliver Cromwell came to stay.

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Not that I'm claiming he left his helmet behind.

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One thing is for sure, I am going to have to go downstairs and find out more about the rest of the house.

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This is a very snug snug.

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-It is the snuggest of snugs, isn't it?

-Is this your lair?

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It sort of is, to tell you the truth, because I can come in here

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and start looking through books and never stop, really.

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This is extraordinary.

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The last Tudor to live here of the direct line, Angharad,

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died as an only child, childless herself,

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in about 1680, and the then house went by reversion

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to the Buckley family, who were a great landowning family from Beaumaris.

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And that is the Buckley coat of arms.

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There seems to be an insertion there?

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-Well, of course...

-Who is this RCK?

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RC is supposed to be me. K is Kerry, my ex-wife.

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C and E are my two daughters, Cara and Estelle.

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1979 was when the house was bought.

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So it was put there is a bit of fun.

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But of course, it started just as a bit of fun, but 1979 now sounds like quite a long time ago.

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It is quite a decent history as it is.

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I think that doesn't feel like an intrusion, and it shouldn't feel

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like an intrusion, because you do seem to fit very, very naturally.

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Just what you have done in here is absolutely perfect for a space like this.

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I am imagining that you have put in the bookcases and the panelling.

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Strangely enough, the only thing really that there was

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in this room were the ceiling beams and the panelled wall.

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-And so all of the outside panelling and everything else, the floor etc, is all new work, so, yes.

-Marvellous.

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Well, I think it is a wonderful, very clubby, gentlemen's retreat.

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We have actually only travelled a few feet physically, but it feels like time-travel,

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because we are suddenly in a completely different century.

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And when is this from, because it has a very, very characteristic feel to it?

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Yes. There was a date in the torching of the plasterwork of 1811,

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and that would fit, architecturally, with the features that we see here,

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the bigger window, the higher ceilings and the feel of a Georgian comfortable dining room.

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You have got a very impressive piano full of royalty here.

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Inch for inch, there is probably more regality than I have seen on any piano before.

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And look, you are in all of them, friends in very high places.

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But these are interesting, because we are very used to you

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as a sort of relaxed surfer squire in your shorts

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and everything, but actually, you have been very involved

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in a lot of very specific, very high-profile heritage work, almost.

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-How long were you chairman of the National Trust here in Wales?

-For 10 years, or nearly 11 years.

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It was a wonderful job for me, because it was so close to my heart.

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Looking at the beautiful places, I'm a keen mountaineer,

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a keen surfer, so the beaches and the mountains were absolutely...

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If only you were interested in old houses as well.

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And there you go! You have got the three in one.

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There are bits of this place that are making me think that that you probably pre-haunt it.

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I think you have been here for many, many, many lifetimes.

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I have been here in another life. I like that idea.

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But you came here by a very, very odd route in many respects,

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because you started off as an executive for Heinz.

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Let's keep the parents happy, let's get a nice, straightforward job...

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-A proper career.

-In beans.

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Live in London, and do those things.

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Exactly. But then it goes a bit Reggie Perrin.

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-Well...

-A little bit, you're not the corporate fella.

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Some strange insect must have bitten me and brought me to North Wales rock-climbing.

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And I just fell in love with the mountains.

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I am a Scot originally, so I've always liked mountains.

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And I had the Reggie Perrin moment of thinking, is the rest of my life going to be working as an executive

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in London, or am I going to do something physical

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and indulge my real joy of climbing?

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What was it like for the family? This is a moment of total empathy.

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Because I'm constantly insisting that they live

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in virtually Iron Age conditions whilst the roof comes off our home or something is being redone.

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But did you get a lot of moaning, "oh, Dad, please can I have a carpet in my bedroom?"

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No, I don't think I got that sort of reaction.

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And of course, the situation and the grounds around the house were just a perfect playground.

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Very early in their lives, they fell in love with horses, and so that was very helpful to me, too.

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But I can always remember my youngest daughter's biggest complaint about

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when we went out was, are we going to see another field of stones, Daddy?

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I'm sure this house is very relieved to be owned by you.

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Because it does, as I say, have a very real sense of attracting strong

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personalities, of attracting people that like the big brush strokes.

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But it was a bit of a competitive tender in the early days.

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You were against a quite major player.

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That's right. Anglesey Council, obviously realising the historical significance of the house,

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were very keen that they should have it, and in a way, I supported them too.

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But that didn't come through for one reason or another, and it is just simply gave me the chance

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to buy it, and the situation was difficult,

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because it was a trust fund that owned it at that time.

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But the majority of the members obviously thought

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that I looked like a suitable person to have it, and I am very grateful to them.

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It is safe to say that if Richard hadn't come along, this place would

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have been a museum rather than a home. It is the only Tudor family house still in private ownership.

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But I am also intrigued by the story of one of the last big characters to live here before Richard.

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80 years ago, the very fearsome Maggie Rowlands was a tenant farmer

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who rather suddenly ended up owning the lands and house.

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I have been told that she had a very close relationship

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with the son of the then Lord Anglesey,

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but for some reason, they couldn't actually agree to go forward to marriage.

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Do think that might have been the shower cap holding them back?

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I suspect that if I were him, I would be worried about someone wearing a shower cap.

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Anyway, as a result of that, if there was a forthcoming marriage, it was called off.

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But they didn't buy the freehold.

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They were given the freehold.

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And I rather think that must have been as compensation for perhaps not continuing.

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I wonder whether any of Maggie Rowlands' family can confirm any of these romantic rumours.

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Now, ah.

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I have got a posse here.

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You will probably be extremely interested to see this.

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-Wow!

-Way-hey! What a shirt!

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Look at her!

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I think this sheds a lot more light

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on to the stories of her and Lord Anglesey.

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They were courting. They used to go riding. She was a great horsewoman.

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The story goes that the Marquis did actually propose to her, and she turned him down.

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-So it was her?

-Silly woman!

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Well, she certainly looks like a woman that really knows her own mind.

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She is not going to be blinded by the glamour of aristocracy.

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Nobody messed about with Maggie, apparently.

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It is wonderful to feel that we have got a little bit of a resolution there.

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If you were given an opportunity to do all this again, would you do it?

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Don't think about it. Would you do it?

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Yes.

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I haven't enough years left, probably, but if the challenge presented itself,

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particularly if the feeling was that if I didn't do it, that bit of history might disappear forever,

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-I don't think I could resist that challenge.

-The lure of history.

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The lure of history, and the lure of feeling that you have saved

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a little bit of it, I have to say, is quite a strong motivator.

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And you enjoy living with history?

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Completely. I sort of live in a dream world, in a way, where travelling across Anglesey,

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I think of the Druids, of the people before the Druids, of the history. I think of all those things.

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-Some bloke called Tudor lived here.

-I sometimes think of him too.

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I was slightly surprised when I first met you that Henry the dog

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had such an ordinary Henry the dog-type name,

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but I am beginning to understand now that Henry is only half the story.

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Well, when he was young, he used to take our shoes, which he still does now.

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But he doesn't do what he did then, which was to chew them to pieces,

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and so his nickname became Henry Chewed-Up.

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So, from Henry Chewed-Up, it was a very small

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move to get him to be Henry Tudor.

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Does the house have the last word, though?

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Is it true to say that that the inscription on the outside, which is...?

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"Peractus est opus, laus deo." "Praise the Lord, at last the work is finished."

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-Is the work finished for you here?

-Well, no. I don't think the work ever would finish,

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because the grounds are very nice, you can always do more work there.

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And people will come after me, and they will have different ideas about how the house should look.

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So I think it is something that will go on for a long time yet.

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I will agree with you there.

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No, you know what? I don't think Richard's work is done here at all.

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Like most of the people that have lived here,

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most of the people that have loved this place, his energy

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and sheer bloody-minded individuality appear to be boundless,

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and I think it is wonderful

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that today's chapter in the history of Penmynydd includes a surfing squire,

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a former head of the National Trust of Wales,

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who has done so much to restore the history, the craggy Tudor royalty of this place.

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