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If you turn your back on the town, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
take that village track, follow the unmade road, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
you'll find something absolutely extraordinary. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
The hidden houses of Wales. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
In this series, I'll be turning back the clock, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
I'll be stepping over the threshold of some incredible places, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
seeking out scandal-packed histories. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Bricks and mortar? They're never seem the same again. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
In this episode, we'll be visiting the ancestral home | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
of a dynasty that built exquisite coaches. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
When he died he was worth about 400 million quid. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
That's not bad. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Yeah, I don't know where it's all gone! | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
A home that was turned into a Polish hospital. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
They actually felt that this was their country. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
A house now in the hands of a young couple | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
who've taken a massive financial risk so their ancestral home survives. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
There's absolutely no choice now, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
we've got to go on and make this work, whatever happens. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I'm in beautiful border country, I am the jam in a sandwich between | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Shropshire and Flintshire, and at the moment it all looks like | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
an exquisite Georgian landscape painting. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
It is terribly, terribly pretty round here, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
which is probably why Edward I gave it to his lovely Queen Eleanor. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Just a bit of a gift you know, just because she was there. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
One wonders what she gave the great man in return. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Nowadays, this side of Whitchurch is Wales | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
but for a while, it was in English hands. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
But the English didn't get around to changing the names of the houses. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
This is Iscoyd Park which, translated, means | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
"park beneath the trees". | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Wow! | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
Just look at that. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
That's... um, textbook, isn't it? | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Weirdly it looks a little bit fake, dare I say, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
because it's almost as if someone's tried | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
to put a tick in every single posh box. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
Columns, tick. Georgian splendour, tick. Symmetry, tick. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
But it's very gracious. Let's face it, I wouldn't say no. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Over the past 200 years, seven generations of the same family, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
the Godsals, have called it home. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Today, it's the turn of 30-somethings Philip and Susie Godsal and their young family. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:21 | |
Four-year-old Poppy, two-year-old Philip Hector and new arrival Cecily. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
Right, that's it. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
I've got serious porch envy now, and actually serious knocker envy. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-Laurence. -For goodness sake, I should be asking if your parents are in! | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
You look far too young to be standing in such a grand doorway. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
-I've got serious house envy now. -Come in. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
So how come you two Sixth Formers have been left in charge | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
of the big, grand house then? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-Well... -Well? It's like this. -It's a long story. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
We've just recently moved here from London about a year and a half ago. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Father and stepmother who moved out at the same time. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
So it's your family house, but you're a London girl. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
I'm a London girl at heart so it's been a big, big move. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
How are you dealing with the mud? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
I've got wellies now, my first pair of wellies I've ever possessed. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Because the thing that really strikes me, first impressions and all that, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
but this is absolutely jaw-dropping. Beautiful, elegant, restrained... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
It's not a family home, surely? I mean, where's the toddler stuff? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-You know, where are the potties? -We'll take you into our bit later. It's a different story there. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Let's have a look around, I love the way you've done it. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
There's a lot of beautiful, beautiful things. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Lovely paintings but... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Iscoyd Park, sitting in 750 acres of beautiful Welsh countryside | 0:04:58 | 0:05:05 | |
was originally built around 1730. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
For nearly 300 years, the estate was able to generate enough income from its land | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
to pay for its own upkeep. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
More recently as farming became less profitable, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
the Godsals have found the going tougher and tougher. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Phil's father, Philip Senior, was barely able to maintain Iscoyd Park | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
and it was falling into disrepair. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
The future of the ancestral home was in doubt. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
Phil Junior and Susie were married in 2005. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Two years ago, Phil was running his own art gallery in London and Susie | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
had given up her busy career to start their family. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
The outdoorsy attractions of a country childhood for their children | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
spurred them into action and they decided to sell up, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
move back to Wales and try and save the family pile. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
But they've taken a huge financial risk, borrowing £1 million | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
and spending a year completing all of the renovation and rebuilding work. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
It looks fantastic but how on earth are they going to repay that massive loan? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
Of course, in a house this size, everything's multiplied. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
The light, the space and inevitably, the bills. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
To be able to run a house like this you'd need an extraordinary income, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
and to keep this place warm, dry, watertight and in the family, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
Susie and Phil have had to get a little bit creative. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
What they've done is give over the vast majority of the place | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
to the public by turning it into an incredibly glam, very upmarket party venue. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
And with some input from some of their swanky designer friends, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
they've recreated that Georgian spirit, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
but given it a decidedly 21st century rock 'n' roll spin. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
With THAT loan hanging over them, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
they're also looking to host extravagant weddings. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Anything to ensure this glorious example | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
of Welsh Georgian architecture isn't lost forever. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
It is a huge achievement | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
and it does look sensational, it's come out very, very well. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, when we really panic about the whole business, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
we do look back at the old pictures and realise what we've done and achieved in the last year. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Does it keep you awake though? Obviously the baby does but does the idea you're... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
You're living in a business, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
it's constantly there, you can't get away from it, around you the whole time. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Are there moments where you burst into tears because it's too much for you? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-Ummmmm, nnnnn... -"Nnnn-never!" | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
There's been a few, there has been a few. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
I'll get you some in a minute if you play really nicely with Hector. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
Do you think he thinks about the fact that he'll be | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
passing it on to his children? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Yeah, that's a big part of it. That's why we're doing it. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
But the interesting thing is, is it going to Philip Hector or to Poppy? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
Do you know what? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
HE INHALES SHARPLY | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
I think right now, we just have to try and hold on to it. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
But holding on to it may prove more difficult | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
than the renovation itself. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Iscoyd has never really had to work for a living. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Indeed, for hundreds of years it was a squire's home, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
a glam country pad for the Welsh landed gentry. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
By the end of the Georgian era, however, it acquired a new type of owner. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
1843 and the house is sold for the not inconsiderable sum | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
of £12,500, which equates to about one and half million quid. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
If you're wondering why I'm driving around | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
in a Victorian horse-drawn carriage, some days aren't Morris Minor days, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
but it's because the family who bought Iscoyd Park and indeed still own Iscoyd Park | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
owe their fortune to the noble art of carriage building. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Philip Godsal the First was the Porsche maker of his day. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
He created beautiful horse-drawn carriages for the super-rich | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
and in doing so, he made his own fortune. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
A Philip Godsal carriage was the very latest in equine elegance. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
They were high-performance luxury sports carriages for handy dandies, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
at a time when everyone else on the continent was covering everything | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
in unnecessary, undulating gilded cherubs and furbelows. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Like Beau Brummell and clothes, Philip Godsal did an Armani | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and embraced glamorous understatement. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
What a way to travel - and I don't mean the Morris. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
At the height of his fame, Philip Godsal sold the business | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
and the money he made enabled his family to acquire a country seat | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
and buy a position in the ranks of the Welsh rural gentry. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
So started Iscoyd's Godsal dynasty. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
I feel as if I'm surrounded by Philips. Because Philip, Philip, Philip. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-Philip is the name that goes right the way through? -Goes right the way through, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
I mean my grandson Philip Hector is number 14. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
I think what's so lovely is it goes back to the energy, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
drive and creativity of one man, the original Philip, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
who created these extraordinary carriages. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
They were the real status symbol of the day, weren't they? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Absolutely, I mean they were sort of the Bentley, Rolls-Royce of the time I think. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
He was one of the three great carriage makers. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It's extraordinary really that he sold his business in 1810, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
because he just did not want his son, Philip Blake, to remain in the trade. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
-He ended up being worth a pretty considerable sum of money. -Yes. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
How much was he actually valued at? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
They reckon when he died he was worth about 400 million quid. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
That's not bad. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
Yeah, I don't know where it's all gone! | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
That's the shame about Georgian money like that, where is it now? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
But it must be lovely to know that under your stewardship, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
rather than this place degenerating and getting worse and worse and worse, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
actually it has been completely reincarnated. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
Yeah. We've been very lucky with our advisors or helpers, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
particularly our architect and the interior designer. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
We've actually had great fun working with them. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
-Hats off to interior designers! -Exactly. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Look what a difference they make. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Know a man by his curtains, that's what I say. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
It's one way of sorting the wheat from the chaff, let's face it. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
I must say they've done an amazing job restoring | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
some of the glamour to Iscoyd. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
But interestingly the house didn't actually look like this in its heyday. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:32 | |
And how do I know? I've got the original plans. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Imagining ourselves as a couple of Georgian bucks, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
-which isn't that hard, is it? -No, not at all. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
We lack the powder and the hair! | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
I'm trying to rationalise these plans, because when are these from? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
From 1746, aren't they? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
The first thing I can see instantly is this rather elegant looking | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-elliptical staircase just off there. -Yeah. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Very, very beautiful, very elegantly done. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
It's like a treasure map. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
This is the drawing room. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
The interesting thing here, this has all been added... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
-You can even see it from the line on the floor. -Yeah. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
We've actually gone off the map here. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Yeah, we go back through here. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Back through here. Oh, look at this, this is all very swanky and modern. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
-Yeah, this has a very different feel about it. -Yeah. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-Can I have a look at your extremely smart loos? -Yeah, quite proud of those. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
-Tell you what, I'll have a look in the ladies. -Yeah, the ladies is better. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Look at that. So this is just carved out of servants' hall, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
-housekeepers' rooms... -Yeah. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
This is nice, the way you've done this here. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
The new loos aren't the only thing the old servants' quarters have been used for. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Front of house luxury is reserved for those able to pay for it | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
and master now is where servant once was. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Phil, Susie and clan are demoted to five rooms | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
in the old servants' quarters at the back of the house. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Hey. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
This is the best part. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
This is actually where Phil lives. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
-Where everybody knows your name! -Absolutely. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Are we open for business? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
We are open. We're always open for business. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Oh, open all hours? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
This is amazing. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
Where we are now is probably the oldest bit of the house. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
This is the new edition, the parvenu, the bit that comes in a bit later. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
Seems odd that you've got these two independent living spaces, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
although it suits you perfectly. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
It's fantastic, couldn't have been designed better really, we're very lucky. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
-This is great fun. -Yeah. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
It is beautifully done, you have obviously spent | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-a lot of money and a lot of commitment and a lot of time on it. -Yeah. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
How well do you sleep? | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Not at all well any more, at all. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Your debt, is it here? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Errr... Yeah, I'd go... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
It feels more than that actually. I mean, it's quite scary | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
when I stop to think. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
But the advantage of that is there is no going back, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
there's absolutely no choice now. We've got to go on | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and we've got to make this work, whatever happens. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Did you have much choice anyway? I mean, something had to happen, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
-you couldn't just plod on. -No. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
I think just sort of changing the direction things were going was... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Well, we had to do it, I mean, we couldn't have... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
I'm no farmer anyway. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
I couldn't have come back to farm and this house needs to be lived in, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
it's always been a good party house and now we're using those parties | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
and that's what's going to keep the thing going. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
So Iscoyd's new incarnation depends on its past. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
The mixture of modern comfort with grand history | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
may be its unique selling point. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Having a bath in a bedroom is a bit of a boutique hotel cliche these days, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
but it's funny when you think about it, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
this is exactly how people bathed 200 years ago. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
The original Godsals would have called for the servants | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
to bring them a tin bath and filled it full of water. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
The fact these days it's actually plumbed in | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
and works efficiently, quickly and well is actually an added bonus. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
I think this is a very interesting masterclass in how to treat an antique. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
This is obviously the bridal bed | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
but it's a bed for a bride who likes the contemporary. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
The bed itself is old, it's antique, it's beautiful, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
it's got a lot of history and tradition to it. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
But it's been treated with a lightness, a brightness | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
and a modernity which makes the whole thing feel very now. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
You've married into the dynasty of Philips, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
which is like marrying into the dynasties of Rameses or Caesars. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
But from town, from London. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-When did you first come here? -Um, we came here in... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
No, when did YOU first come here? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Oh, I first came here? Gosh, must have been ten years ago now. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
And what did you think? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
-Terrified. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Because obviously you knew he had a big gaff in the country? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Yeah, but we never talked about it, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
I never imagined I'd be living here, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
but you don't know where life takes you, do you? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
And it's been an amazing experience. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Looking at it completely professionally now, it does have | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
that sort of urban spin on it, which I think is its complete success. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-I definitely agree with that. -No shabby chic here, is there? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
No, no, none of that, that's out the window. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Because we didn't want it like a hotel, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
we wanted it to be contemporary, a little bit different, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
but we also wanted a family feel. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
And this is our style, this is what Phil and I both like. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
-And no chintz in sight. -No. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
We looked at what we had, paintings and furniture | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
and then we sort of built it from that. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
It's an old house with old furniture but a real breath of fresh, modern air. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
We just wanted to move forward rather than backwards, push the whole thing forward. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
The unthinkable is deeply unthinkable, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
because it's not just like you've bought this house. To lose this house, after... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
Yeah, it's massive. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
..After all those Philips, to be the Philip that lost it. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
That pressure's on our shoulders. We just have to keep going, be positive, looking to the future. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
-But you're using that pressure creatively? -Definitely. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
That's wind in your sails. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
It has to be channelled in the right direction. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
But yeah, it is pressure for all of us and we feel it, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
but that's just part of... Part of the whole set-up. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-Stop, Poppy, Poppy. -Pops, come here. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Do you ever have a moment where you escape from the children and just come and live in... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
I've sneaked in here a few nights! | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
When the kids have been playing up I've said, I've had enough! | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
We joke we can come on holiday in this side of the house. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
It's a staycation, it's absolutely perfect. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
It's great, we don't need to travel! | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
The Godsals have gambled their future | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
on making sure their house has one. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
But there was a time when Iscoyd | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
was taken from the control of the Godsal family. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Estates of this size were in high demand for the war effort. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
In 1942, the decision was made to convert Iscoyd into | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
an American forces hospital to accommodate | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
the thousands of anticipated casualties from D-Day. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
In fact, not a single injured American soldier actually arrived at Iscoyd. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
The hospital remained empty, but not for long. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
1945 and the dark days of the war are over at last, hurray. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
But now it's time for Churchill to honour his debt made to | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
the healthcare of our Polish allies. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
But where to put all of those war veterans? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
I know, what about a brand spanking new, 200-bed hospital? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Iscoyd enters a new incarnation, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
as the evocatively named Polish Hospital Number Four. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
Polish Hospital Number Four started here | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
and went back for quite a way, didn't it? There was a lot of building here. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
There was tarmac, it was roads, it was brick structures. How big was Number Four? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
It was a huge hospital in terms of the amount of people they had here. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
This hospital in particular was very important and different, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
because it was one of the few military hospitals built for the Polish resettlement. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:25 | |
It was also special in that it dealt with soldiers | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
with mental health problems, and that, of course, in 1946 was quite unique. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
The resettlement act for the Poles that provided so many hospitals for them | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
actually gave the Polish community the equivalent of the NHS. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
What do you think the local reaction was? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Was there a bit of romance going on? Polish soldiers hopping over the fences? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
The Welsh girls coming back the other way? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
I think there was quite a lot of interaction between the two. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Depending, of course, on the level of their illness, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
they attended local festivals and they had local singing competitions, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
they actually felt that this was in a strange way their country. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
So, there were hundreds of Polish soldiers | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
and hundreds of local girls. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And as Vera Ostrowski can testify, there was, of course, romance. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Now, Vera, I want to know all about what happened | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
when you met a certain Polish gentleman. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
There you were, a lovely lady from Whitchurch | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
and you see this incredible Polish hunk. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Well, we first met at a dance, he'd come down to get the camp ready. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
-And was he wearing uniform? -Yes. -Was he frightfully handsome? -Yes. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
And then he wanted to see you again so how did he do that? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-Well he took me home. -And then what did he say to you? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Well it just bulldozed from there, we just carried on meeting when I came on leave. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
So when you come back here and see that it's now been restored, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
to me it has a real cloak of romance to it. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Well, it has really when you think, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
there's such an awful lot of Poles and English girls that did get married, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
and I mean they've had a happy life. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
But, with all the hospital buildings demolished, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
the only physical remains of those memories are some carvings | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
on a tree in the grounds. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
It's extraordinary because it's become | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
part of the fabric of the tree, but what does it mean? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
If only we knew someone who spoke Polish?! | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Well, luckily we have Katrina, who works with us in Iscoyd, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
and she is Polish. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
There we are! Any ideas? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Well, I think it looks like a Polish... | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
It looks like it might mean, it's set to "Alan" | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-Polish proper name. -Right, OK. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
And I think the apostrophe might means she's from Polska. And er... | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
-What does that one say? 1946? -Yeah. That's 1946. Definitely. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:10 | |
But that must make you feel quite, you know. Quite romantic? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
Yeah, kind of proud that Polish people were here. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
-And they were so good at carving trees. -Yeah, exactly! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
In 1956, Polish Hospital Number Four was closed. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
A year later, the estate was given back to the Godsals. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
What was it like growing up here? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Because there's your father, you know, maintaining it | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and that's kind of all you would've hoped for really, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
to maintain something like this? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
I mean I had my head buried firmly in the sand about this place | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
for a long time. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
We've been very lucky that we've managed to do all the interiors | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and the things we could not have done had Dad not kept the roof on. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
Well, this is it. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
The transformation that has happened in the last two or three years is not slight at all. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
There is a responsibility, I think, when you have a house of this quality, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
you can't just go out and buy something cheap and cheerful and paper over the cracks. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
Susie and I decided that if we were going to come here, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
we were going to have to do it to a very high standard. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
We wanted to do something really special, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
so we ended up borrowing far more money than we set out to do. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
My father didn't think that we would be able to stay here. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
He had intended to sell the house, which is why I was | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
so determined to keep it, having got here. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Are you proud of it now? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Yes, and I'm very proud of the fact that we are still here. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
You are actually really trying to rebuild the family stature in a way, aren't you? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
Yeah, I mean there is definitely that feeling that you have. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
I think every generation has to find a way that they can make | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
the house work for themselves, they can't become a slave to the house. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
They may not be slaves to the house but they're certainly going to have to work for the house. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
So, this is your place then, is it? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
-Yeah. -It's very nice. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
It's not a hand-me-down. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
Yeah, it's a hand-me-down. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
So, Iscoyd Park enters another chapter in its long history. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
'But the end of the refurb is just the end of the start | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
'of Phil and Susie's journey.' | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
You do have a strong sense of future about this place, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
and you're prepared to put yourselves a bit on the line for it | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
and work very hard to get that. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Is that something that you think comes from family or from family | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
or do you think that's something from you as a couple? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
I think there's a bit of both probably. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Obviously the history side of it is important, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
but what's more important is that it does work for us as a family. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
And we've been given this incredible opportunity. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
It's such an ongoing project and there are so many exciting sort of phases ahead, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
that I think it keeps us inspired and always looking ahead. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Stressed but never bored! | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
At the end of the day, it's an amazing challenge in life and I think we'll look back | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
and think what an incredible experience it is. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
But you are just at the foothills, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
you haven't got to the summit yet, but jolly good luck with it. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Actually, I suppose on paper, when you look at it, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
the future of Iscoyd Park has never been more in jeopardy | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
because of that eye watering loan Phil and Susie have taken out | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
and that keeps them awake at night. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
But it's that loan, coupled with a lusty dose of Godsal energy | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
and some quite slinky contemporary creativity, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
that has taken this place one step further. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
It's no longer part of a mere maintenance programme. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
It's no longer treading water. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Phil, the latest in a long line of Philips, has taken his family home, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
taken his hidden house of Wales and, yes, taken a risk. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
But it's about reincarnating it, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
it's about breathing new life into it, it's about making it glamorous, it's about making it romantic, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
but more than anything it's about making it relevant to the 21st century. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 |