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Over the years, we've seen the ups and downs of the property market. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Whether it's an investment or a home you're looking for, you want the value to go up. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
Make sure you buy at the right price and one way is to buy your next home under the hammer. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:17 | |
-We've all heard about the ever-changing property market. -But buying at auction is simple. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:48 | |
Your hand goes up, the hammer comes down, you've bought it! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
And that's what happened when today's properties were sold. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
There are great views from this South Wales property, but... | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
I'm getting increasingly worried about this house. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
This Southampton semi has a large living room, but is a tight squeeze. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
I'm a bit disappointed with the size. It feels a bit cramped. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
And in Telford there's a one-bed flat that doesn't make the best first impression. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:23 | |
Oh. Very dark and dingy. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
All of these properties went to auction and we'll find out who bought them and what they paid | 0:01:28 | 0:01:34 | |
when they went under the hammer. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
For the first property that went to auction, I've come to spectacular South Wales. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:46 | |
This is the former mining village of Blaengwynfi, located in the Upper Afan Valleys. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
Port Talbot is just 10 miles away. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
The property I'm here to see is right up in the hills, so incredible views. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
The drive here was spectacular. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Two-bedroomed mid-terrace, built in the early 20th century to house local miners. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
It had a guide price of £21,000. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Let's take a look. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
The front steps are pretty steep and this along with the road access | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
might put off some buyers, but for others that extra height could mean even better views across the valley. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:29 | |
The outside of the house isn't in great condition. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
What's it like inside? | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
There's that little porch to keep the rain and the cold out. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Then straight into your front sitting room. Not a bad size. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
Hmm. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
That's not good, is it? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Look at the way the ceiling is kind of bowed. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
We'll investigate more in a minute. One thing I'm concerned about is this. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
Signs of damp all the way over this front wall. That's either penetrating or rising damp. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
Usual thing - not too much of an issue to sort that out, but what damage has it created? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:10 | |
An open-plan area. I like that. You come through into the kitchen. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
It's a nice-sized space. The units are fairly tired and dated, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
but it's not a bad-sized room, but again look at the angles on some of these doors. And cracking. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:28 | |
Loo at the back and then out the back it gets really bad, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
but I'm really concerned about these structural issues. Not good. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
# I smell real trouble | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
# Lord, I smell trouble ahead of me... # | 0:03:42 | 0:03:48 | |
Next to the downstairs loo there's a junk-filled room that screams, "Wasted space!" | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
You could knock it through and have a lovely open dining/living area at the back here. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:02 | |
Outside, like many terraces here, the garden rises very steeply and could do with a good tidy, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:11 | |
but coming out here gives me a chance to inspect the back of it. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
Well, out the rear of the property you can see why we've got so many problems in the house. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:23 | |
Flat roof here, the guttering, as you can see, is completely shot, across most of the building. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:30 | |
All the water pours down here, going into the house. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It just reeks of a property that hasn't had any maintenance. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
It's relatively easy to fix the actual source of the problem. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
Resolving the problems it's created is going to be a much bigger and more expensive thing. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
It's easy to forget that the priority for a property should always be the state of the exterior, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:57 | |
rather than the interior design. You can choose the loveliest flooring and furnishings, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
but if the rain gets in, you could kiss it all goodbye. The front is crumbling, the back's in a bad way. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:10 | |
And the ground floor needs some serious TLC. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
So up a quite steep and dangerous staircase. There should be another banister there. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:20 | |
Two bedrooms and a bit of a surprise - an upstairs bathroom. That's nice to see. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
But come up here and the problems with the structure of this building become absolutely pronounced. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:33 | |
This ceiling is all over the place. There's damp. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
I'm getting increasingly worried about this house! | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
I think I'll make a sharp exit. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
# Well, worry, worry, worry | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
# Worry is all I can do... # | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
A good deal of work is needed on this house that went to auction guided at £21,000. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
I don't think it's great to have a boiler in the bedroom, so move that. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
But if the buyer got this for anywhere near the guide price, there's quite a lot of scope here. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:11 | |
To find out how the house compares to others in the area, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
I asked a local property expert to come and take a look around. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-The main selling point could well be the beautiful setting. -Fabulous, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
in summer when the weather isn't so severe, but in winter when it snows, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
this hill will be quite an obstacle. If there's ice down, it goes right to the bottom. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:38 | |
That's worth remembering. Always try to see what you're buying in good and bad weather conditions. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
Apart from the wonderful views, what's the potential here? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
Well, the property is in need of quite a lot of work. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
The kitchen could be salvaged. The bathroom, you could make use of that. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:01 | |
There's potential to extend, but spending quite a lot of money on that wouldn't reflect in the value. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:09 | |
That guide price of £21,000 was attractive, but a lot of work is required here. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
But then how much could it be worth? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
If this property was renovated to a high standard, then I believe as a two-bedroom property | 0:07:18 | 0:07:25 | |
it could be marketed and maybe achieve between £58,000 and £62,000. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
What about renting? How much income could this generate? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
As a rental property with two bedrooms, there is a local demand. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
I would estimate the rental value to be £360-£370 per calendar month. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
Well, you can't deny this is a beautiful location. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
Unfortunately, the ceilings and the floors of this house are as undulating as the countryside, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:59 | |
which could be a very expensive problem. So who took this on when it went under the hammer? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
Right, we're going to lot 6. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
We're down in Blaengwynfi, near Port Talbot. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Some lovely views from that village. What shall we say? 28 for it? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
Who's got 26 to start? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Well, let's get on. 20, then. Thank you. 20 I'm bid. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
At 20,000 I'm bid. And one I'm bid. Thank you. At 21,000. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
At 21,000. 2 if you like. At £21,000. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
2 at the back. Thank you. I saw it. 22. 23, seated. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
You're out standing, sir. At 23 seated there. 4, can I? Thank you. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
At 24 on the steps. At 24, you're out... 5 on my right. At 25. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
Make it 6, will you? Thank you, madam. At 26. Don't do that, sir. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
You have to do it that way. At 26 on the steps. I'll take a half if you like, then. No, he says. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:58 | |
Not even a half. At 26. I'm going to sell it. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
The lady on the steps will get it. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
At £26,000, are we all done? The hammer's up. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
At £26,000. Yours, madam. Thank you very much. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
That final bid of £26,000 was made by Nicky who was at the auction with her partner Paul. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
Nicky is a former carer who used to work for a building society. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Paul does contract work as a manager for housing associations. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
I met up with the couple to hear about their plans. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
-Good to meet you both. Congratulations. What an amazing location! -Absolutely fabulous! | 0:09:37 | 0:09:44 | |
-Wonderful. -Can't beat the views. -You don't sound Welsh. Not locals? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
No, I'm based in Swindon now. Paul's Newbury. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-And I was 30 years in London. -What brought you to buying a property in Wales? -Pension fund! | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
I've not actually worked for three years. I've been looking after my parents. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
And...got to do something. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
And it is my pension. That's what I'm looking to do. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-So why here and why this house? -We looked at plenty of places | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
and there were plenty of places that we would have liked. We liked this one best of all. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:25 | |
When Nicky saw this one, she set her heart on it. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
-What experience have you got of this? -None. -I've worked in social housing for a long time. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:35 | |
I've worked on void properties, speccing the work out. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
I'm au fait with the mechanics of houses and housebuilding and house repairs. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:46 | |
My middle son has a lot of experience of that kind of work. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
So between us we've got the expertise that we need for the job. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
That's really good to hear because this property needs that experience to turn it round. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:03 | |
-So, Nicky, tell me exactly what you'll do. -Kitchen we plan to move out to the back. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
This is going to be a family area. Upstairs, we've got all sorts of problems | 0:11:13 | 0:11:20 | |
with the floor joists, so we've got to re-lay those. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
The bathroom we'll just switch around a bit and, basically, just make it as lovely as we can. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:31 | |
There are some structural concerns. Looking at the walls you think, "Goodness me!" | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
There's a lot of penetrative damp on that front wall for a long time. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:42 | |
It's done the damage. We've got bowing in the roof, we've got bowing in the ceiling above the bedroom | 0:11:42 | 0:11:49 | |
and in the living room. It all seems to track down to these joists. They are rotted off at the end. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
Paul and Nicky hope to complete the work in six months and have a budget of £20,000. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
As that's mostly being spent on materials rather than labour, that money will go further. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
They've also got a 10% contingency in hand, just in case. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
So then what's the plan for it? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Not too sure. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
We've got all sorts of options, really. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
I'd be quite happy to live in it while we do the next one. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Or it could just be that we say, "This isn't for us," and not bother again. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:32 | |
It's the next step in life. Ours is a fairly new relationship, anyway. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
So this is something we're doing together for us. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
It's the start of the rest of our life and you can't get more exciting than that. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
I agree. There's nothing quite as exciting as square one when the possibilities are infinite | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
as on a project like this one. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Well, Nicky and Paul clearly delighted to have found this place, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
but I am very concerned that even with their pretty substantial budget | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
it's not going to cover the work they need to do to sort it out. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
Still, at the end of the day, what you can't take away is those views. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
How are they going to get on? Find out later in the show. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
For the next property that went under the hammer, I've come to Southampton | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
to a rather rural sounding housing development, near the university and 10 minutes' drive from the city. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:37 | |
I'm on the Flowers Estate, one of the more affordable areas of Southampton. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
And who can argue with the guide of only £105,000-£110,000 for a three-bedroomed semi-detached? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:53 | |
Not me! I'm going to go inside. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
# If you want to give them flowers | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
# Make them paper ones you send... # | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
From out here, the property looks a bit wilted. Let's hope it's in better shape inside. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:09 | |
It'll be quite interesting to find out what you do get for your money in this place. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:15 | |
OK, let's start. Woodchip wallpaper everywhere in here. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Bit of a springy floor as well, but somebody has installed some new central heating, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
so that's a plus point. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
An old electric fire, that's got to go. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Not a bad space in here, but when you take into account out here is a very small kitchen | 0:14:29 | 0:14:35 | |
and you wouldn't get a table and chairs in there and you've got to sit in there to eat, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
I'm a bit disappointed with the size. It feels a bit boxy and a bit cramped. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
And just over there is the only bathroom in the house. There's not one upstairs. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
So my first impressions? A little bit disappointing. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
A shame as the house isn't in terrible condition. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
It just needs a bit of a rethink on the layout to make it more homely and practical. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:06 | |
Let's head upstairs to see if the key to success for this place lies there. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
Upstairs, it's a real straightforward layout - one, two, three bedrooms. That's it. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
This is the master and not a bad size, but what I'm quite excited about is this, look. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
Lovely storage space, so you could use it for storage or perhaps think about installing a shower room. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
I think that would really add to this property, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
but just remember, this is a great rental area, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
so whoever takes this on doesn't want to go overboard and spend too much money. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
So, three bedrooms, near to the university could be the first bonus here. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
And from the research I've done, the rental income could be tempting. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
Outside, there's a super garden which broadens its appeal to families as well. | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
This house seems solid and I think the issues are mainly cosmetic, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
so there's not a fortune to spend here and it's a fantastic rental area | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
which is where your opportunity lies. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Now, buy for around the guide, renovate for £10,000 tops | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
and you're looking at over a 6% yield. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
That beats the bank, so therefore, I think it's a good bet. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Let's see what an estate agent makes of the property | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
and get his expert opinion on the potential here. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
As it's so near to the university, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
could it appeal to a learned developer, well-read in the buy-to-let market? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
I think this could be a student let. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It's not declared as a prime student area. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
It's at the bottom end of the scale, even though it is within close proximity. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
There's a slim chance of it. You'll get higher values if you go along that route, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
but it's more along the family route, I personally believe. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
How much could the house hope to generate, whether let out to students or a family? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:07 | |
If the property was in good condition, letting to students, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
I'd say about 800 per calendar month. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
However, to a small family, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
you're probably looking more along the lines of 600 to 650 per calendar month. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
Remember, the house was guided at between £105,000 and £110,000. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
What is its possible market value as it is and how much could it be worth once renovated? | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
As I see it, the property today, I personally believe it's worth around 125,000. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:38 | |
Once it's actually refurbished, I think you're looking at a ceiling value of around 145,000. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:44 | |
If this house was picked up for around the guide price of £105,000 to £110,000, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:52 | |
this wilting property could look blooming marvellous. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
Names can be misleading, but appearances can also be deceptive. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
This house is a decent little home. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
More than that, it's a pretty good investment. Let's see who spotted it at the auction. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
Lot 33. A three-bed, semi-detached house, requiring some refurbishment. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
Very attractive figure. Somebody make me a bid of just 90,000? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
90. Thank you, sir. 90 we've got. Looking for 91 elsewhere. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
91, we do. Thank you. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
91. I've got my two bidders. 92? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
92. 3? 3 we have. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
And 4. 5? 5 we have. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
6? Nice and quick, 6. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
7? 97. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
98 against. 99? 99 is with you now. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
100? 100 we have. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Fresh bid, 101. 102? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
102. You're close to each other. Yours, sir, at 103, raising... 104. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
105? 105, yes, thank you. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
106? 106 we have. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
107 is now bid. 108. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
108,000. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
109? 109, last ditch there. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Fresh bid. 110,000 is yours, sir. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Are you coming back in, either of you two? No? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Coming in at 111 here. 112 we have. 113? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
113. Looking for 114... 114. 115? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
114 and a half. 114 and a half. 115? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
115. Half? 115 and a half. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
116? | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Fresh bid here, 116. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Did catch your attention. 116 and a half, sir? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
New bidder at 116 and a half. Two new bidders here. 117. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
117 and a half? Bid, sir. Thank you. 118 we have. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
18 and a half. 19? 119. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
119 and a half. 120. Think where this is going. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
We've had a few examples. 120 is there. 120 and a half. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
121. 121 and a half. 122? I'm doing the maths. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
122. 122 and a half. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
123. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
23 and a half...? 124. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
125 here. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
125 and a half. No, shake of the head. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
Looking for 126 anywhere else... 125,500 then once. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
125,500 twice. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
125,500 third and final time... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
'That successful bid of £125,500 was made by Phil. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
'He went 500 quid over the stamp duty threshold which means he has to pay an extra 1%. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:30 | |
'Phil's got a lot of experience with property. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
'I met up with him to find out what his plans are for this, his latest purchase.' | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
-Phil, congratulations. -Thank you. -It's really good news that you got this. Tell me more about yourself. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:44 | |
-Well, I've been doing property since 1997. -Are you a developer? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:50 | |
I'm a developer, landlord, investor, a bit of each of those, really. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
There wasn't a plan at the time to go into property. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I was working as a housing officer, so that was my starter pack of experience and insight into things. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:04 | |
I bought my first property, then I went away for a couple of years. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
I lived in Egypt where I was doing some community development work, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
then I came back and did some more work in housing. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
I bought two further properties, then I went away and did some further studies in Norwich. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
When I came back, I thought I could make a bit of a business out of this, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
so I went out and bought four or five all at once, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
kept up with the work abroad occasionally, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and then concentrated a lot of my resources in property. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
What sort of work abroad is it that you do? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
When I worked in Cairo, I was working mainly with Horn of Africa refugees. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Many Sudanese came to Cairo because it was a safe haven for them. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
I headed up an Adult English Programme. I've done some food security work | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
with Tearfund in Burundi. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
I've worked in Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and I've worked in Kenya as well, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
so it's been fairly varied in both the countries and the type of work. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
It's important to have that sort of work/life balance. I'm involved in my local church. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
I think people are important, so that's what I try to reflect in my life too. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
'Phil's quite right, of course. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
'People are more important and often it's not money that makes you happy. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
'It's the freedom it gives you to make the choices you want to make. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
'Phil seems to have the balance just about right.' | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
What are you going to do to this place to bring it to life because it's a bit tatty on the inside? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
It is. There's not a tremendous amount that needs doing, but I'll replace the kitchen. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
I'll do some work on the bathroom. There is some lovely wallpaper here which will see the end of its life. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
Whoopee! The woodchip's going! | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Absolutely. Skimmed and painted a fairly neutral colour for the letting, then outside, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
I'll make that into a maintenance-free garden, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
thinking about the letting, but making it look nice for the sale. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
-So, the budget, come on. You've got a bit of work to do. -That's right. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
The bathroom, the kitchen, getting rid of the wallpaper. What's your budget? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
-I'm happy to spend £5,000 or £7,000 on it. -That's quite a low budget. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
Are you going to be doing quite a lot of the work yourself? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
My general approach to these things is to do as much as I can myself, putting in my own elbow grease, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
except where I'm limited by time, tools, law and expertise. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
'Getting the experts in when required makes perfect sense | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
'and you can't fiddle with gas or electricity as that's illegal. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
'Sometimes it's worth paying for a good decorator | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
'to add that final, sparkling, professional touch.' | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
-How long is this going to take you? -I'm hoping three or four months. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
I've given myself quite a lot of time. I'm not overly desperate. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
-Phil, good luck with this. It's been lovely meeting you. Well done. -Thank you. -Lovely. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:09 | |
# Give me a country | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
# Where I can be free... # | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
So, property developing gives Phil flexibility and freedom. How fantastic! | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
And the more money he can make, the more aid work he can do, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
so, fingers crossed, this house will make him some decent cash. Find out what happens later on in the show. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:32 | |
'Coming up, this Telford flat has only got one bedroom, but you can fit in a lot.' | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
You've got a reasonable cupboard there and a massive cupboard here. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
'We return to Southampton where there's been a match made in heaven.' | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
They were looking to move near to the university, so it's ideal for them and for me too. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
'But first, it's back to South Wales.' | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
My middle son Ferrell has done an amazing amount of work on the place. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
'When we were last in the beautiful Welsh village of Blaengwynfi, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
'Nicky and Paul had just bought this semi-detached property for 26,000. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
'The couple had bought it to supplement their long-term pension provisions, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
'but once they had renovated the house, they were still undecided what to do with it.' | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
-So once you've done it up, what's the plan for it? -Not too sure. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
We've got all sorts of options, really. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I'd be quite happy to live in it while we do the next one | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
-or it could just be that we'll say, "No, this isn't for us," and not bother again. -Hmm. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
Well, a whole year had passed when we met up again with Nicky and Paul | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and Paul's son Ferrell back at the property to check on the progress. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
Work is still ongoing, but the couple have had a family bereavement, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
so they've not been able to give the project their full attention. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
The delay meant their schedule for the refurbishment was affected by the weather | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
and the property turned out to be in a bad way. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
The whole place was soaked through. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
The roof had failed. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
A lot of the timber work was rotted away and it was irretrievable, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
so we took the decision that we would remove everything and start again. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
So, apart from new doors, windows and rendering on the outside, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
both the roof and roof timbers have been replaced. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
What are the plans for upstairs? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
What's happening up here, basically, is we're going to be using the same layout as before. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
We're keeping it as two bedrooms, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
a smaller one at the back, a nice, big one at the front. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
And we're redoing the bathroom in the same place. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Slightly different layout as far as the bathroom goes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Considering what we had to do with the roof and all the other work that's going on, it's doing fine. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:08 | |
The couple have now decided to keep the house and move in when it's completed. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
While the original upstairs bathroom remains, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
the loo and former downstairs bathroom at the back have been demolished. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
Now that we've taken the bathroom out and the wall, this will be the kitchen. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
It's going to be a U-shaped kitchen. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
We've got the possibility of making a recess in one corner for some extra storage space. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
The most important thing we did was to make this hole for a window, so we've got natural light coming in. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:42 | |
Over here will be the gas boiler and the sink under the window with the washing machine next to it, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:48 | |
so that's nearest to the outside. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
You'll remember Nicky and Paul are not from Wales, so they've had to travel from Swindon and Newbury | 0:27:50 | 0:27:57 | |
to work on the house. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
The difficulty for us has been that it is a long way. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
We do have to virtually camp out here when we come down. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Nice to have been a bit nearer to it. You can't just pop in and do a couple of hours when you've got time. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:14 | |
As well as Nicky and Paul's efforts, they've also had help from Paul's three sons. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
My middle son Ferrell has done an amazing amount of work on the place. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
Both my other sons have been down and done a little bit with us too, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
but chiefly, it's been Nicky and I and Ferrell that have been here. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
Ferrell's got experience in bathroom and kitchen fitting and general building, but this was a first. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:40 | |
I've got a bit of knowledge behind me, but nothing to the extent of a complete rebuild of a house. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:47 | |
It's a challenge for me as well. The reconstructing was the major part. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
All the woodwork had to be replaced and all the floor joists. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
The roof was a big one, obviously, to get it watertight. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
How much have they had to spend on the project so far? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
Remember, they had allowed £20,000 for the whole refurbishment. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
So far, we have spent around about £12,000. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
We've still got the internal fitting to do, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
so I'm confident that we'll use the rest of that budget, but that we won't go over budget. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:23 | |
Time to get some property advice and valuations | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
from two local estate agents. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
I think the work that's been done so far, it obviously was necessary. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
Quite a lot of effort has gone into it, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
but it should be plain sailing now. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
The layout, I think, is great. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
The two bedrooms is fine. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
It'll have a decent-sized lounge, dining room, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
which a lot of people like, and a reasonable-sized kitchen. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
I think the layout is just about right. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
It frees up what was a bathroom to create more space downstairs. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
And the kitchen plan is just about right for the size of property. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Once the house is finished, Nicky and Paul plan to move in, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
but if they decide some time later perhaps to rent it out, how much income could it generate? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:12 | |
The rental value for this property, in pretty good condition, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
would be about £350 to £360 per calendar month. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I would suggest rental value on this property is 350, 360 per calendar month. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:26 | |
It doesn't surprise us really that that's what they're talking about | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
because that's what we'd expect it to go on the market for rental-wise, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
but we're not tempted in the slightest. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
What about resale value of the property once the work is complete? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Bearing in mind that they paid £26,000 at the auction | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
and hope their budget will stay at around 20,000, making a total outlay of £46,000, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:54 | |
how much could the house be worth? | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
As long as the work was finished and to a decent standard, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
I would suggest the property would be valued at £55,000. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
However, with the market as it is at the moment, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
they would do exceptionally well to get offers over £52,000. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
If the property was finished to a fairly high standard, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
in today's market, I'd expect this to achieve between £52,000 and £55,000. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
That valuation range of 52,000 and 55,000 would generate between £6,000 and £9,000 pre-tax profit | 0:31:23 | 0:31:31 | |
before the usual selling expenses. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
It doesn't seem unreasonable, considering the state of the housing market, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
but we always looked on it as how much we were getting a house for that we could make a home in. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:46 | |
After hearing those valuations, are they still pleased they bought it? | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
-Yeah. -Absolutely. -Absolutely. -It's such a lovely place to be. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
It's quiet, it's peaceful, it's a gorgeous place. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
If I was only able to spend two weeks in a year in the house, I would consider it worth it. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:05 | |
It's really lovely. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
This is Ironbridge in Shropshire, known as the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution | 0:32:11 | 0:32:17 | |
because of this bridge behind me, built by Abraham Darby in 1779. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
It was the first bridge ever to be constructed out of cast iron | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
and people travelled from far and wide to marvel at its ingenuity. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
And they still do. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Today, Ironbridge is the jewel in Telford's industrial crown | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
and its multiple museums, shops, tea rooms, not to mention history, make it a lovely place to visit. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
Let's hope our next property is as good as the view. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
Well, travel around ten minutes away from Ironbridge and fast-forward a couple of hundred years or so | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
and you find yourself in Brookside, a purpose-built estate largely of flats. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
Not particularly pretty from the outside, but what about the inside? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
I'm here to see a one-bedroom flat. It had a guide price of 30,000 quid. Let's take a look. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
OK, this 1970s development isn't everyone's dream location, but it is well maintained. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:14 | |
Inside, it's up to the first floor and along the corridor to the flat itself. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
Oh, straight away, very dark and dingy. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
Maybe it's the colour of the walls, but I'd want to get some light into the flat here. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
Bathroom and loo there, a reasonable size, in reasonable nick. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Bedroom there. That's not bad, a good-sized double. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
Your main living room area there and then through to the kitchen. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Maybe it's because all the windows seem relatively small. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
That, I think, is giving this a fairly sort of oppressive feel to the flat. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
But lots of storage. You've got a reasonable cupboard there and an absolutely massive cupboard here, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
so you could think about opening this up somehow and just a careful choice of colours. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
Stick with your browns, your lights, a light-coloured carpet. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Do whatever you can to increase the feeling of space because for a one-bedroom flat, it's not bad. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
And don't forget that guide price. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
At the guide price of £30,000, this is just the sort of property | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
that could appeal to a developer on the lookout for a bargain. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
# Tangled up in blue... # | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
It's a straightforward property in acceptable condition. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Cracked sockets and peeling paper aren't hard to rectify. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
This one-bedroom flat would be ideal for a first-time buyer. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
Outside, the exterior structure of the block looks sound. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
A further bonus is that the lease has been extended to 99 years. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
The service charge of £28 a calendar month isn't excessive | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
and neither is the ground rent, just £10 a year. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
We invited a local property expert to look at this flat | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
which went to auction guided at 30,000. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I've had a good look around and can't see any major problems. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
Dare I say it, at that price, this is a no-brainer. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
The area we're situated in at the moment | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
is a very affordable area and is very popular for investment buyers, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
as well as first-time buyers. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
I'd spend as little as possible, either put it back on the market... | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
There is a ceiling level for these properties. And for the rental market as well. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
What's a realistic valuation of the flat as it is now and once it's been spruced up a bit? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:37 | |
I would say the value of this property in its current condition is somewhere in the region of £37,500. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:44 | |
Once the property has been completed and done up, I would say a maximum of around £45,000. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
That's interesting. It sounds like you could increase the value by around 50%. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
And would it be better to sell this or let it out? | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
I would say this property would be better suited to the rental market. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
You would achieve around about £375 per calendar month. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
So whoever bought this flat at auction will do better if they find a tenant for it. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
Well, this flat may not be a marvel of engineering, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
but it could make you a considerable wodge of cash. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Let's see who saw the opportunity when it went under the hammer. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Lot 29, back to Telford. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
It's a one-bedroomed, first floor apartment. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Requires modernising. Shall we start at 25? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
20 then? Let's get it going at 20. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
20 I'm bid. Thank you. At £20,000. I'll go in twos. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
22 can I say? At 20... 22. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
24. 26. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
26,000. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
28? £28,000. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
I'll take one if it helps. 29. At 29,000. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
30 now? At £29,000 then, are we all done? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
Just in time. £30,000. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
Another one? At £30,000 seated left against you standing. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:11 | |
The bid's at 30. I'm selling it then. At 30,000 then for the first time. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
At 30,000 for the second time. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
Third and final time... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Your lot, sir. Well done. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
'The successful bidder with his bid of £30,000 was Steve. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
'He bought the flat with his business partner Chris. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
'I met up with Steve to find out exactly why they wanted this little place.' | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
-Steve, lovely to meet you. Congratulations. -Thank you. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
-Why did you want to buy the flat? -We didn't. -Huh? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
-We just sort of like... It was a price sort of decision. -At what point was the decision made? | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
When he started about £15,000, we thought, "Too good to turn down." | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
So you made the decision as the lot was announced? | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Yes, as the auction was in progress. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
-Right. Had you looked at it before? -Nope. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Were you aware of it? -We'd seen the picture in the brochure. -Right. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
Of a flat of similar description. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
-That was it? -That was it. -You hadn't visited? -No. -You hadn't done any research? -No. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
-You hadn't checked it out? -No. -Nothing to do with the legals? -No! Spur of the moment. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:25 | |
-Do you do this kind of thing very often? -Not on a weekly basis. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
-Have you done anything like this before? -No, first purchase at auction. -And it's the first one? -Yes. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:35 | |
-Do you know you broke every single rule in the book? -Absolutely. Throw caution to the wind! | 0:38:35 | 0:38:41 | |
'What a rebel! His first property auction and he's already broken all the rules. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:48 | |
'Forget throwing caution to the wind. Let's hope this flat doesn't blow up into a storm for them.' | 0:38:48 | 0:38:54 | |
-What do you do when you're not randomly buying properties? -Refuse collection. I'm the bin man. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:02 | |
-Really? -A bin man, yes. -That's your full-time job? -Yeah. -What took you into the world of property? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:08 | |
A friend of mine has got a few houses. The market's a bit down, got a couple of quid hanging about, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:15 | |
so one thing led to another. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-I'm interested in the practicalities. The auctioneer says, "Lot number blah-blah-blah." -Yeah. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:24 | |
You haven't got much chance to chat with your friend about what you're going to do. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
He gave me a bit of a nudge and said, "What do you reckon?" | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
The price was so keen and we joined the bidding at 15 and it worked its way up to the price we paid. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
-So it was "make it up as you go along"? -Absolutely. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
We were a bit worried at one point. "Are we doing the right thing here?" | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
But adrenaline kicks in, you get a bit excited and the next thing you know, the hammer's down | 0:39:46 | 0:39:52 | |
and you've got yourself a flat you've not even seen. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
# My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat... # | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
'Steve and Chris work very closely together. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
'Steve drives the waste disposal truck while Chris is the loader. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
'They work as a team every day and trust each other's judgment, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
'but bidding blind at auction is still a very risky business. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
'Was Steve pleased when he walked through the door?' | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
It was a pleasant surprise because some of them suffer from damp and are a bit knocked about. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:23 | |
This one wasn't too bad. We were really pleased. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
What are you going to do with it? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Basically, as you can see, it obviously needs a bit of decoration doing. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
Floor, carpets, tiling in the kitchen and bathroom, new bathroom and kitchen, new doors. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
That's basically it. The council do look after these places quite well. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
The electrics are top quality, the central heating is pretty new, so it's not too bad at all. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
-What budget have you got? -We're looking at a maximum of £3,000. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
My partner will be doing the majority of the work, so we'll be saving a lot of costs on that front. | 0:40:53 | 0:41:00 | |
-Including a kitchen and bathroom? -Yeah. -Are you recycling materials people have thrown out? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
I found a lovely mustard-coloured bath the other week. Beautiful. But I was holding out for chocolate. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:11 | |
'I look forward to hearing if he finds an avocado basin to complete the set. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:18 | |
'Steve's allowed four weeks to get this place scrubbed up which should be plenty of time, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
'so after his hair-raising auction escapade, what does the future hold for the flat?' | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
-We're going to let this one out. -The returns on what you paid are amazing. -Yeah, good return on it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
-What's the plan for the future? -The plan is to mortgage this one, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
then with the money from that to move to the next one. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-And build a portfolio? -The next one we're looking at to buy, do up, turn it round and re-sell. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:48 | |
Will you follow the same strategy in terms of the properties you buy in the future? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:54 | |
You have so many properties to look at in such a short period of time that you can't see 'em all, | 0:41:54 | 0:42:00 | |
so we'll see what we can and what we can't see, we'll see what the price is. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
-And if it sounds like a good deal, you'll go for it? -Why not? Why not? | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
The list of "why nots" would take me about half an hour, but you seem to have got away with it. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
-Throw caution to the wind. You make your own luck. -It's an alternative strategy. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:21 | |
-Congratulations. -Thank you very much. -Lovely to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
# Oh, my old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
# He wears cor-blimey trousers and he lives in a council flat... # | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
Oh, boy! Refuse collector Steve certainly hasn't picked up a rubbish investment on this occasion, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
despite breaking all the rules and not even seeing the property beforehand. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
When we return, will it be sorted out or will it still be a bit of a tip? Find out later in the show. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:52 | |
We always hope that our buyers have set themselves realistic timescales and budgets. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
There's only one way to find out and that's to go back and see. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
Back now to Southampton. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
Earlier in the programme, Phil, a charity worker, property investor and landlord with over 12 properties | 0:43:07 | 0:43:14 | |
had paid £125,500 for this house to add to his portfolio. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
It was in reasonable condition, although the layout downstairs wasn't great, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
and Phil had already worked out his refurbishment strategy. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
I'm going to replace the kitchen, do some work on the bathroom. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
-Some lovely wallpaper here will soon see the end of its life. -Whoopee! The woodchip's going! -Absolutely. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:39 | |
Six months later, we met up again with Phil. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
The property has been decorated throughout and tenants have already moved in. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
Upstairs, the three bedrooms have been decorated. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
The house has new carpets throughout | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
and the hallway has been completely re-plastered. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
Although Phil has let out several of his properties, this was to be the first one aimed at students. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:14 | |
How did he go about finding them? | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
I'm fairly new to the student market, so I went to a couple of agents | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
who are fairly active in the area for students. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
Because it was quite late on in the day for finding students, there wasn't a great response. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:29 | |
I was quite active in my own advertising and that's when these guys expressed an interest. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:35 | |
They are three guys from my church. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
They were looking to move near to the university, so it's ideal for them and for me. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:43 | |
Phil had a lot of help from his friends and tradesmen, but also got stuck in himself. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
So what exactly was his role? | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
It was mainly as project manager, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
but also all those areas which don't require a lot of expertise, so all the wallpaper coming down, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:59 | |
clearing away of rubbish, doing the garden. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
The garden has been transformed with a new back fence and side gate and the new lawn looks great, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:08 | |
but what has been the biggest change inside? | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
Basically, this has been the largest area of transformation. There was just really a hole here before, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:19 | |
so now it's a fully equipped kitchen. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
There's a large area of work surface, there's a new one-and-a-half bowl sink, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:28 | |
so finally, it's gone from being fairly dull and drab | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
to something that is very functional and hopefully very attractive too. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
The bathroom remains downstairs beside the kitchen. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Phil's added a new shower and some other bits and pieces, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
but wasn't the original plan to add a shower room upstairs in the main bedroom? | 0:45:49 | 0:45:55 | |
There was a possibility of putting an en-suite in the master bedroom. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
However, I decided fairly early on that wasn't necessary, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
given where I was going to in my aim for the property. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
Phil has several other properties let out to tenants. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
He had allocated up to £7,000 for the work, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
so did he stick to that figure? | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
The budget was £5,000 to £7,000. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
I've spent more in the region of £9,000 because of miscellaneous items. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
One was the plaster work. The kitchen was slightly more as well. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
The house might not look massively different, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
but re-plastering and installing a new kitchen and a shower in the bathroom, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:40 | |
plus all the turf in the garden, the fences and the gate all adds up. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
Phil paid £125,500 at the auction and spent £9,000 on the work, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:51 | |
so his total outlay is £134,500. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Has the money been well spent here? Has he added value? | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Time to get some expert property advice from two local estate agents. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
I like the property. I think it presents well. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
A basic refurb, but that's fine for the market that he's offering to. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
The main thing I like is the kitchen which has just gone in, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
the downstairs bathroom and also the garden which is a good length. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
The kitchen is particularly nice. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
The bathroom being on the lower level, it's personal preference. Some people may be put off by that. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:32 | |
I may have put the bathroom upstairs, but to lose a bedroom, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
you'll lose the rental value, so I can understand why the current vendor hasn't changed it. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:43 | |
How much is the place now worth? Remember, Phil's total spend is about £134,500. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:49 | |
So is he looking at a profit? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
I think this property would re-sell | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
for approximately £130,000 to £135,000 in the current market. | 0:47:54 | 0:48:00 | |
In the current market, the valuation for the property would be £135,000. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:06 | |
Well, that range of valuations from 130,000 to 135,000 would mean a loss | 0:48:06 | 0:48:12 | |
of between £4,500 or a profit of £500 before the usual selling expenses. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:19 | |
But Phil is not disappointed. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
I'm happy with those values. Those were the values which I came up with when I did my due diligence on it. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:28 | |
I've got no intention of selling before ten years or so, so within reason, it doesn't really matter. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:35 | |
Over the years, this property will generate income for Phil. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
He's already getting £780 a month from his current tenants. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:44 | |
How much could it generate if let to a family, rather than on a room-by-room basis? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:50 | |
The current rental valuation for the property is £625 per calendar month. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
I think this property would rent for approximately 600 to 650 per calendar month if rented as a house, | 0:48:55 | 0:49:01 | |
maybe slightly more if rented room to room. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Those figures are quite applicable to perhaps a family wanting to rent a house like this. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:13 | |
For the student market, the normal rent is between 940 and 980. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
I'm achieving 780 which is a bit of a concession because I know the tenants who are here, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:25 | |
but next year I will be looking to achieve more towards 950 per month. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
So another property joins Phil's growing portfolio. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
They all need managing, but Phil is very much his own boss. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
That works well for him because he also does a lot of overseas charity work. So what next? | 0:49:40 | 0:49:46 | |
I've just bought a further property at auction on the other side of the city which I'm renovating just now. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:52 | |
I'm very much hoping that my work in managing a portfolio and property investment | 0:49:52 | 0:49:58 | |
will feed into my longer-term plans in community development abroad. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
I feel I have my work/life balance approximately right, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
so I'm fairly happy and very thankful for that too. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
Earlier, we were in Telford | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
where Steve and his business partner Chris had bought this first floor, one-bed flat for £30,000. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:22 | |
They work together on a waste disposal truck. Steve drives and Chris is the loader. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
# Oh, my old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat... # | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
It was their first joint purchase and they bought the flat as a long-term, buy-to-let investment. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:39 | |
Steve planned to leave most of the work to his business partner Chris, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
but he had been on the lookout for some bargain recycling at the tip. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
I found a lovely mustard-coloured bath the other week. Beautiful. But I was holding out for chocolate. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:54 | |
Just six weeks later and we met up again with Steve back at the flat | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
to see how the refurbishment had progressed. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
Remember, the flat had the blues all right, but now you're welcomed with a more neutral colour scheme. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:14 | |
# How long | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
# Baby, how long... # | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
Well, it's so long to the blues and the bath in the bathroom. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
A super finish - all tiled and a white suite. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
Like Steve, I didn't really fancy a mustard bath and wasn't too struck on the chocolate one either. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:34 | |
Let's check out the rest of the flat where the layout has stayed pretty much the same. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:40 | |
One kitchen. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
One bedroom. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
And a living room. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
But I'm not sure about those new carpets. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
# It was acceptable in the '80s | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
# It was acceptable at the time... # | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
Well, as you can see, we've repainted, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
floors, new carpets, lightened up the texture. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
There wasn't a great deal of work involved, but it all takes time to do, so we're quite happy. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:14 | |
I hope Steve and Chris haven't put off any potential tenants by their choice of carpet. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:20 | |
It won't appeal to everybody. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
You might say the carpet is very "old-age pensioner", but it went in purely down to price. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:28 | |
It was free, so that is why we've got the carpet. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
Well, it made financial sense and you can't argue with that. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
Remember, Steve and Chris bought the flat for £30,000 without seeing it first, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
so did the pair discover any hidden problems when they've taken a good look around? | 0:52:42 | 0:52:48 | |
We've been really lucky because we haven't uncovered any major problems. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
Just little cracks in the plaster. There was nothing wrong. It was structurally sound. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:58 | |
The major work is done. We're waiting for a few doors to arrive. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
Chris did all the work as planned. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
I just popped in to bring him some cake and some tea and cheer him up. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
He's cracked on very well and we're pleased. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
The popular theory about property is you should invest in the kitchen and bathroom. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
And that's just what Steve and Chris did here. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
It's a whole, brand-new kitchen, as you can see. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
New work surfaces, total redecoration, new tiled floor. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
We've been quite lucky with the boiler. It's been regularly serviced by the council. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:36 | |
We haven't got any expenditure on that front. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
How much did they have to spend here on top of their £30,000 purchase price? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
Well, we did have a budget of £3,000, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
but with Chris doing all the work himself, we've managed to get the budget down to £2,200, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:54 | |
so we're happy with that, we're pleased. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
The pair plan to rent it out. Do they have anyone lined up to take it? | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
At the moment, we don't have a tenant lined up, but we will be advertising within the next few days | 0:54:03 | 0:54:09 | |
and hopefully, someone will be along soon. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Two people are now heading to the flat - | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
local estate agents here to give their expert opinions. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
I think the flat is a generous size. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
It's in fairly good condition. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
Nice sized rooms, decent kitchen as well. Yeah, it's good. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
I'm a little disappointed with the finish | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
and also with the carpets. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
They seem to be a throwback to the 1970s, 1980s. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
They could have done with more neutral carpets in here. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
I'd have extended the kitchen as well and taken out the storage cupboard. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
What I do like about the property is the bathroom and the kitchen, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:52 | |
though perhaps I would have made the kitchen bigger if he decides to go down the selling option. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
So could Steve now be tempted to sell? Does he think it's been a good purchase? | 0:54:57 | 0:55:03 | |
We are still pleased we bought the flat and we'll still go down the rental line. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
OK, so how much rental income could Chris and Steve achieve here? | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
This would rent extremely easily and I would expect to get £375 per calendar month. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:19 | |
The rental market is stronger for a property like this at the moment | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
and you'd be looking at achieving about £375 per month. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
£375 per calendar month, I'm quite happy with that. That's quite acceptable. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:32 | |
Has the flat increased in value? | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
They paid £30,000 at the auction and have pegged their budget at £2,200, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:39 | |
so a total outlay of £32,200. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
But what is it worth now? | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
In current conditions, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
we'll expect a price of round about £45,000. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
There is a ceiling level for these types of properties in this area. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
Put it on the market for no more than £45,000. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
Those valuations of £45,000 would generate a gross profit of £12,800 | 0:56:00 | 0:56:06 | |
before deducting the usual selling expenses. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
I think £45,000 for sale is a fair price. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
The flat cost us 30,000 at the auction. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
We spent about 2,200 on it, then we've got solicitors' fees. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
For it to be worth around 45, that's a nice return. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
It sure is after just two months. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
Let's not worry about those carpets. They cost nothing and didn't hold back the price. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
Our bin men have cleaned up here. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
They took a chance buying blind. Would Steve do it again? | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
Absolutely. I'd still buy another flat without looking at it. You only live once. Live dangerously! | 0:56:41 | 0:56:47 | |
Those stories have now been added to our archive. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
-But there are always plenty more and to see those, join us on Homes Under The Hammer. Goodbye. -Goodbye. | 0:56:53 | 0:57:00 | |
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