Episode 27 Homes Under the Hammer


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Hello, and welcome.

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Buying at auction can give you the chance to get hold of properties

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that are in need of a bit of work.

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Now, people like to put their own stamp and style on their purchases,

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and hopefully make a bit of a profit along the way.

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And you might be able to do that buying your home under the hammer.

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We love the buzz and the excitement of an auction room -

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you can really sense the hope and frustration in the air.

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Yes, and you never know what's going to happen until the final seconds.

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So, what's tempted the buyers on today's show?

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Fulham in London has always been somewhere to pick up a hot property,

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but this one beats them all.

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Industrial strength heating, phwoar!

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I first saw this Southampton property in 2008

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and warmed to it straightaway.

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I love it, let's hope there's loads of character inside.

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And this Derby house might have come with a cool £52,000 guide price,

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but I'd tread carefully...

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FLOORBOARDS CREAK

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Oh, dear.

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These properties are being sold at auction and we'll find out

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-who bought them and what they paid for them when they went under the hammer.

-It's yours.

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I'm in the affluent area of Fulham in southwest London.

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It's home to two Premiership football clubs - Fulham and Chelsea -

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who, over the years,

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have had a few Derby Day pitch battles, and I'm sure the lot

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I'm here to see would be in the Premiership of auction properties.

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It's huge, so it's going to be attacking you on all fronts.

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This auction lot is in fact two separate houses, which have been subdivided into six flats.

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They may look elegant from the outside,

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but were until recently a council hostel.

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The properties are leasehold with 50 years remaining,

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and the guide price was a whopping £525,000.

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So through the front door and the entrance foyer into the first flat,

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and, well, not a bad-sized space.

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Actually, it's a bedsit,

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but high ceilings, which is always a good thing.

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Clearly kitchen - ha! - in need of a bit of tender loving care.

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Thankfully the bathroom is slightly better and it's a good size.

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But as starting points go, not bad.

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So onwards and upwards to the first floor where there are

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another two flats, one on either side of the stairs.

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So, a similar layout on the left-hand side of the top floor,

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but on the right-hand side of the top floor it kind of gets a bit complicated.

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Another good-sized flat, but the issue here is this is actually

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a flying freehold - that could introduce a few complications.

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This flat sits above an office which belongs to

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the next-door property -

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that's a flying freehold, when part of one property extends over another.

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It can make a mortgage difficult to obtain,

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so the leaseholder will want to speak to the freeholder to make sure there are no complications here.

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And we're not done yet - down in the basement there's yet another flat, making four in total.

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Well, all good so far, but in case you'd forgotten, there's a whole extra house to see yet.

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Next door there's more of the same - a flat on the first floor and another one in the basement.

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On the ground floor though, things start hotting up.

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In a place like this, one of the big considerations is going to be the central heating

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and hot water supply, very expensive to replace,

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but in this case, not a problem - it's all been done and look at this.

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Industrial strength heating, phwoar!

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# It's getting hot in here

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-# So take off all your clothes

-I am getting so hot... #

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And if that's not enough to get you hot under the collar,

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there's also some office space on the ground floor that could be turned into one more flat.

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At the moment the room feels rather drab and dreary, but since we're in

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one of London's most sought-after areas, transforming these dingy hostel bedsits

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into stunning studio apartments might well be worth the challenge.

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They also have planning permission already guaranteed to be turned into two houses.

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The guide price for this place was £525,000.

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I invited a local estate agent to give his opinion.

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First impressions are, wow - a lot of work,

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but also a huge amount of potential in terms of the location.

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It's just getting it right for what your own purpose is.

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If I had bought this, I'd be looking at keeping them all as studios, rent

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them out, possibly make them one-bedrooms and do the same.

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They're in the right layout, they just need a little bit of TLC and

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then obviously people with the location would be delighted to live here.

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With a top quality refurbishment, how well could the flats do on the rental market?

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I don't think you'd have any problems getting these at £750 per month per unit.

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So six flats at £750 a month is a total monthly income of £4,500.

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What about sell-on values?

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I think you'd be looking at £175,000 up to the £200,000.

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Those figures could mean a combined resale value of as much as £1.2 million.

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Well, a real double bonus for this place, two properties and the chance

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to double your money, but don't underestimate the amount of work

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it's going to take, so it's probably going to be a developer that took it on, when it went to the auction.

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600 on this, where do you wish to start, I think it's worth six?

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Standing up 500, 505 anywhere?

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505, 510, 515...

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520, 520...525.

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At 525, madam. 530.

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Despite the slow start, this hot property was off and running.

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Eventually, the bidding was between two determined parties.

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683. 684, 685...

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686, 687...

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688, 689... 690?

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690, you can't stop on 89!

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689 with the gent on my right...

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690? Must be worth it, if not it's going at 689. Anyone else?

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That's 690... 691, 692...

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693, 694... 695, 696...

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697, 698, 699, 700...

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701, 702... 703?

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702 with you, first time, second time, third and last time if you're all done...

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Sold, 702, well done.

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After a titanic struggle, the triumphant bidder was Stephanie with her bid of £702,000.

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Stephanie actually works next door

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from where she runs her marketing company.

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She's had her eye on these properties for some time.

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# We can do it, we can do it

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# We can do it even better with broken heels. #

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Stephanie, congratulations.

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-Thank you, Martin.

-So tell me why you wanted to buy it.

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I bought the building next door 13 years ago,

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and for the last 13 years I've been trying to persuade the council to sell me the lease.

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So when it went up for auction with residential planning permission it was a no-brainer.

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After 13 years it would have been sad not to get this building, really sad,

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and I would have had to sit next door to it every day

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watching the building works unfold, so yes, good.

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You would have gone mad, basically.

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I think I would've had to move offices!

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The day you got it then, how did you feel?

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Scared, elated, and I was approached immediately after

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the auction with an incremental bid to sell it on, so very happy.

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-Tell me more.

-For a significant amount of money more.

-How much?

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-I can't tell you that.

-Why can't you tell me?

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More than £150,000 more than I paid.

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What, the day after?

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The day of - two minutes after I bought it.

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Well, why didn't you take the £150,000 there and then?

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Because there's more value in developing this as it is, obviously.

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-Money in the bank though.

-Mmm, speculation, yes.

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Obviously it's leasehold, does that affect you?

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I own the freehold so I'll marry the freehold and leasehold.

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-You own the freehold of the whole building?

-Exactly.

-Wow.

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The flying freehold is of no concern now, as Stephanie owns the buildings

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and the land they're built on.

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So what are her plans - to keep them as flats or return them to houses?

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Why are you so excited about this then, what are you going to do to it?

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It's a prime position, it's a great building, I love the building,

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and I think it could be very useful either as houses,

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for which it already has planning permission, or even better for apartments,

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which I'm going to apply for planning permission.

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And perhaps in the future I will marry the buildings I own next door and make a terrace

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-of two-bedroom apartments, which becomes a nice development deal.

-Wow, absolutely.

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With a view to doing what, renting or selling them?

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Probably selling them in the long term, perhaps renting in the short term.

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So talk me through exactly what you're going to do then.

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I applied for planning permission for two-bedroom apartments.

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-How many?

-Seven, with a couple of studios included, so seven units in total.

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Apply for planning permission for the building next door, my offices, to residential.

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Subject to that, I've also got permission to put an upper floor on the top, and then see what happens.

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-Wow.

-Yes.

-So this turns it into a huge, huge, huge...

-Quite a substantial building, yes.

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In terms of doing this project, let's assume you get

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the planning permission, any idea how much it's going to cost, how long it will take?

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Probably about £300,000 to refurbish the two buildings and I would guess six months maximum,

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taking it at a fairly slow pace.

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So who's going to actually manage the project?

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I've got a project manager who will do it all for me,

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from the planning permission to managing a workforce, but I'll be next door

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as a sort of uber project manager to just make sure the project manager manages the project!

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They are beautiful buildings, I'd like to restore them to something of their previous glory,

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they've been somewhat battered over the years, so it would be interesting to see them come back.

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Stephanie has secured her mortgage and is using savings

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to finance her grand plans for this elegant building.

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Now listen, we haven't talked about one thing, which is the boiler.

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-It is a work of art, is it not?

-Yes.

-Something to behold.

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The first time I came in here I was amazed by it,

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I thought it might actually be a nuclear force of some kind,

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but we're going to have to put individual central heating units in it anyway.

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-Ah, who wants the boiler?

-Well, up to you, make me an offer!

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I'll be round here with my transit van.

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That's an offer I might take you up on, thank you very much, Stephanie.

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-You're very welcome.

-Good luck with it all.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Thank you very much.

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Well, a bit of a dream result for Stephanie but she's been a long time waiting for it -

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to have the freehold and now the leasehold of the whole building,

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and development potential? Boy, oh, boy,

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it could make her a lot of money.

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But it all hinges on getting that all important planning permission.

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How is she going to get on? Find out later in the show.

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Back in October 2008, I took a trip to Southampton to look not at the sea

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or the boats but at an auction lot that had seen better days.

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This is what I'm here to see, this rather grand-looking property. It's a Georgian mid-terrace

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and it went to auction for a guide of £245,000.

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And I love it. Let's hope there's loads of character inside.

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There's certainly plenty of it outside. This four-storey property is

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Grade 2 listed so it's protected by law and you'd be restricted in what you can do to change inside and out.

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This whole building has been subdivided into two flats, so you

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walk in the front door and up this flight of stairs with this gorgeous original staircase to the top flat.

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Now through here is the sitting room.

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In a Georgian house you'd expect to see panels doors, deep cornicing,

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big feature fireplaces, a ceiling rose, shutters on the windows,

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nine-inch timber floorboards...

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not dusty pink bobbly carpet, woodchip wallpaper, storage heaters.

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I mean, I do love the location, the windows are just beautiful,

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it's got an amazing facade, but what a disappointment inside, there's just no character at all.

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Such a shame, but if you went to town on this place,

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put some features back in the two large bedrooms at the top...

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..and transformed the pokey bathroom and that drab kitchen,

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you could turn it into something really special.

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Even better than that, you could reinstate both flats as one magnificent house.

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Time to check out flat two now.

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Sadly the entrance isn't as imposing, it's at the rear of the property,

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however you do get off-street parking.

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I wonder what the inside has to offer.

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Well, a much bigger kitchen in this flat,

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you could have a table over there.

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You can see it's all been neutrally decorated although there's a bit of

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a strange arrangement where you have to walk past this blocked in staircase to get to the lounge.

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It is a good size, again you've got this beautiful feature window,

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but it's all just a bit bland, bland, bland.

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Down in the basement there's a double bedroom...

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..one single bedroom...

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and a small bathroom.

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Those small windows make them all a bit dingy

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and they're in need of a full refurbishment.

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But there is one big issue with this property.

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The whole property, ie both flats, are under one title on the Land Registry.

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So as far as they're concerned this is still one house.

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Because of this, it would be hard to get a mortgage.

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Now, if you wanted to keep it as flats, you could apply for retrospective planning consent,

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if you can prove it was divided into two separate dwellings sometime ago,

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and then separate titles can be created and the property changed from freehold to leasehold.

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But you would need legal advice and that would cost you.

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Finding proof of division shouldn't be a problem -

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you could probably get that from the council tax records,

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but drawing up separate plans and creating leaseholds is going to be more expensive.

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But it certainly could be worth doing when two-bedroom flats in this area fetch around £175,000.

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This is a lovely period property in a prime location.

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It is rather unfortunate that the flats inside

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lack character, but you can always put back those period features,

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although it can be a pricey exercise.

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There's also the title issue to sort out but I think I've fallen a little

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in love with this one. Will the new owner feel the same?

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Let's find out who bought it at auction.

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Lot number 10, £215,000 is what I'm looking for.

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Somebody start the bidding at 215...

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Gentleman in the back left-hand corner thank you. 217, thank you,

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directly in front of me. 219, I have got. 221.

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223 I have, 225... 227, 229.

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231, 231 I've got.

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233... 235, 237? 237.

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238, 238 now bid against you. 239, 240...

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241, left-hand corner. 242 here in the front.

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243, 244... 245, 246...

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247, he's made that bid. 248 here.

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£249,000, is what I now need. 249 - he's nodding. 250?

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250 is here. £250,000... 251?

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Shake of the head.

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Anywhere else in the room? Last chance, sir? £250,000 here.

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£250,000 for the first, £250,000 for the second...

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£250,000 for the third and final time.

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Your property, sir, well done. Your number, please.

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Robin made that successful bid of £250,000.

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He was just on the right side of that 3 per cent stamp duty threshold -

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one penny more and he'd have ended up having to pay an extra 5,000.

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He was at the auction with his wife Sue.

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In the last 20 years they've been buying and developing property,

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and now their son Chris, who's a trained cabinetmaker, has joined the business.

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Guys, congratulations, you must be so pleased you got this at auction day.

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Extremely pleased. We are very enthusiastic about character properties like this

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and keen to try and restore it to its former glory.

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As you can see, most of that's been taken away.

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With 20 years' property experience,

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Robin's taking full advantage of the depressed market at the moment.

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He's bought almost a flat a month for the last seven to

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eight months and has now acquired this imposing Georgian house,

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but what are they going to do with it?

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It can either be two fabulous flats or a fabulous house.

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It would be nice to get it really traditionally back

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as a house and they're very scarce, obviously, Georgian townhouses now.

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It depends on the finances,

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I think initially we'll have it as two flats

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and try and get some rental income to cover the loan interest.

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We'll do a makeover on the upstairs flat so we can let that as soon as possible,

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not necessarily do the full restoration,

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but the downstairs flat we'll focus on here,

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we'll fit a new kitchen in here, all the floorings,

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probably put gas central heating and the fireplaces back in, and suchlike.

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The family may still decide to reinstate this as one house.

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For that reason, they're not planning to change the title deeds just yet.

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Instead, they want to spend around £5,000

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on a quick makeover upstairs and get that rented out within about a month.

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They'll spend a further £15,000 and three months on the downstairs to get

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some character features back into the place.

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It's Mum's job to sort out the design.

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I just want to put it back as it was.

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It seems such a shame that a lovely building, a period listed building,

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has been left to end up like this in such an awful state.

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So your gut instinct when you first walked into this property,

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did you think, "I would love to turn this into a family house"

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or "This would be a great rental return, two flats"?

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No, my first instinct was I'd love to live here.

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-Really?

-That was my first thought.

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I just love the building and put it back to a family home, but then

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I get brought back to earth by Rob, and he says,

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"No, we've got to finance this so we have to bring it down,

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"rent one flat, we can do one up, we've got to finance this,

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"you know, it's not that straightforward."

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What do you know about the period building, have you done any research at all?

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I've been to the city archives department and looked through all the old Kelly's Directories

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and things like that. It's been lots of different things over the years,

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it started out life as a single home with servants living in the basement

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and originally it was set out by somebody called Laishley, who was a developer in the area.

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This was sold as lots at auction.

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Which is incredible, it's done the full circle!

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Here you are buying it as a house at auction.

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It was fascinating to find that, and actually see the plot marked on here

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and it actually had a huge garden.

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-Sue, good luck, I can see how passionate you are. Well done.

-Thank you.

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That was in October 2008, and at that time they planned a quick

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refurbishment on the top floor flat for a budget of about £5,000.

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But when we first returned 10 months later, their plans had

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changed and the speedy refresh had turned into a full-scale renovation.

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After all the effort of stripping all that wallpaper, discovered there

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was some plaster that was damaged that really needed re-plastering,

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and thought this is crazy, we might just as well do the whole thing,

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just go for it and do it properly.

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Sue and Robin were determined to restore some character to this listed building,

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so the top floor flat had been transformed with new flooring, coving, and period-style details.

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The kitchen and bathroom had been given a luxury refit.

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But there was still plenty more to do. Having set the standard with the upstairs flat, the challenge

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was to restore and revive the rest of the building. We'll see how all their hard work paid off later in the show.

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Coming up, on a trip to Derby, I found a house that will take a bit of straightening out.

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That's not very good, is it?

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It's been over two years since we last saw this Southampton property,

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and it's been a real labour of love.

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We've tried to bring back some of the life to the place.

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But first, back in Fulham, is Stephanie counting the cost

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of taking on such a large flat conversion?

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Seven figures spent very happily.

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Let's return to Fulham in London, and this elegant late Victorian building.

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The exterior was stunning, but, after years as a council hostel,

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the interior was tired and tatty.

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The auction lot consisted of two houses subdivided into six flats.

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It was sold for £702,000 to Stephanie,

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who runs her own marketing company from the building she owns next door.

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She'd had her sights set on the property for some time.

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I bought the building next door 13 years ago,

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so when it went up for auction with residential planning permission it was a no-brainer.

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Stephanie was intending to turn these shabby bedsits into seven super chic apartments,

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so we returned 20 months later to see if this development is progressing according to plan.

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It might look a mess, but Stephanie's been thinking big.

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She has come up with a much larger scheme for this building,

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which has meant ripping out the interior and starting from scratch -

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even the lovely industrial boiler's gone.

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The building has pretty much been gutted,

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all the walls have been taken out, a lot of the ceilings have

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been taken out and all of the utilities have gone, so it pretty much is a shell.

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Stephanie's been working closely with her architects to apply for

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planning permission, but it's taken a lot longer than she'd first hoped.

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We bought the property with planning permission for two family-sized houses,

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we then applied to put on an extra floor

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and changed the planning permission to nine one-bedroomed apartments,

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which took us a while, but we got that about a year ago.

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So Stephanie and her architects have got planning permission for two one-bedroom flats

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on the basement level. At the back, extensions will be built

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for the kitchens, which give access to private patio areas.

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On the ground floor there will be a further two one-bedroom

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apartments with open plan living and kitchen areas.

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At the back will be the bedrooms, which will have access to balconies.

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On the first floor, Stephanie will have a further three one-bedroom apartments.

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The two apartments on the basement floor will have fantastic gardens,

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which are going to be glassed over with conservatories

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so they'll look really lovely, and then the balconies,

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a lot of them have balconies on the outside

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where you can place a barbecue, catch a few rays in the summer,

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and then the bathrooms are going to be particularly lovely.

0:26:090:26:12

We've spec'd some really high quality beautiful white Italian sanitary ware.

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Stephanie's got an eye for detail

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and plans to appeal to the trendsetters of this fashionable area with a high spec finish.

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Her upmarket tastes have taken her plans through the roof.

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The new extension in the attic space will create

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two extra one-bedroom apartments, so will maximise her return

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on what will surely be a lofty investment.

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In terms of the overall budget, it's going to be into seven figures,

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which is a really exciting and slightly scary figure.

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However, we anticipate that we're going to make quite a good return on that figure as well.

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So seven figures spent very happily.

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So Stephanie's spending more than £1 million on renovating her purchase.

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To ensure she is getting a premium price for her prestige development,

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she's been involved every step of the way.

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Although progress has been slow, her belief and her vision has been unwavering.

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# Don't stop believing... #

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It's been a real labour of love.

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I worked very closely with the architect and the planners and have

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personally spec'd every single item in the apartments,

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from socket covers to window architraves to balconies.

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So I have a real good working knowledge of all the apartments, and a real love for them.

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But this property is full of surprises.

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Remember that flat with the flying freehold?

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Well, whilst waiting for planning permission for the rest of the building,

0:27:420:27:46

Stephanie decided to try her wings on the rental market.

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She gave the overhanging flat a quick refurbishment and has been letting it out for a year.

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The flat is currently empty and, I must say, if this is Stephanie's

0:27:560:28:00

idea of a temporary makeover, I can't wait to see the real thing.

0:28:000:28:05

She's appointing her building contractors very soon and expects the work to take nine months.

0:28:050:28:10

I'm really looking forward to getting towards the finishing stages

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and just to see how a building which is really iconic in my view can be

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restored to its former glory, and then obviously just seeing some very happy people living here I hope.

0:28:170:28:22

We've invited the estate agent who viewed the property previously

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to give us his opinion on the work so far.

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Second time in the property, you can see they've made a lot of changes.

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It's really opened up and you can get a good sense of the space, it's very good.

0:28:350:28:39

Having perused the plans, what does he make of the layout here now?

0:28:390:28:44

I like what they're doing, in them all being one-bedrooms, I think it

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will work very well for the location and for the area.

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And what about extending up into the mansard roof?

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Any option that you get to extend going up into the mansard will obviously add value.

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It's a great way to increase your internal space and if you can get

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two extra units out of it then it will definitely increase value.

0:29:050:29:08

That could be good news for Stephanie -

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remember, she bought the building for £702,000

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and her budget for the work has shot past the £1 million mark.

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But if she sells on, what price does the estate agent think each property could achieve?

0:29:190:29:24

Looking at an average for all the flats in the building,

0:29:240:29:27

I will be working at an average of £300,000 for each unit,

0:29:270:29:30

which brings the total building up at a value of £2.7 million.

0:29:300:29:33

That's an impressive figure, but Stephanie's done her research, so does she agree with that valuation?

0:29:330:29:38

I think that's a little low as a valuation. We've obviously

0:29:400:29:43

done our research and taken some other valuations

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and we'd be looking at a significantly larger sum than that.

0:29:460:29:50

Stephanie seems to have set her sights high.

0:29:500:29:54

She's an impressive lady running her own busy marketing company

0:29:540:29:58

whilst also managing this ambitious development.

0:29:580:30:01

I'm hoping that once we appoint the contractors,

0:30:010:30:04

I'll have some downtime, but I expect it to be full on thereafter for the next year or so.

0:30:040:30:08

While Stephanie looks forward to a little downtime,

0:30:090:30:13

I look forward to coming back and seeing the finished properties.

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I'm in Ulverston, a large residential suburb of Derby in the East Midlands.

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One-and-a-half miles from the city centre and I'm here to see a three-bed mid-terrace

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at a going price of £52,000, and this is it.

0:30:310:30:35

Good news - it's got double glazing. I noticed something else as well,

0:30:350:30:39

these plastic plugs. That indicates some kind

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of an injection damp-proof course has been put in.

0:30:410:30:44

That's good, hopefully the damp didn't cause too many problems inside.

0:30:440:30:49

There's only one way to find out.

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There's also apparently a relatively new roof too, a bonus,

0:30:510:30:54

so let's hope any issues the house may have had with damp are now behind it.

0:30:540:30:59

Oooh!

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Oh, dear, straightaway it feels to me like...

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CREAKING

0:31:040:31:06

..the floor in that corner of the room here is, er,

0:31:080:31:12

well, as you can see, terribly unstable.

0:31:120:31:15

That damp looks like it might have caused a problem

0:31:150:31:17

and more indications of damp there, and it's still quite damp.

0:31:170:31:20

Oh, dear, that as well.

0:31:200:31:23

There's a crack all the way up the wall there, as you can see,

0:31:230:31:28

somebody's tried to fill it in with, basically, simple filler

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and, over time, it's actually cracking more,

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which is quite worrying because it's obviously continuing and getting worse.

0:31:350:31:40

But trying to sum up a positive thing to say, good size for a lounge.

0:31:400:31:44

Well, try as I might to like this property,

0:31:450:31:48

I'm really struggling to get into the swing of what's going on here.

0:31:480:31:52

DOOR STICKS

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Well, that's not very good, is it?

0:31:530:31:55

That's the door from the rear sitting room into the kitchen

0:31:550:31:58

but as you can see, that doesn't really shut.

0:31:580:32:02

That is a classic indication that there is some settlement in the doorframe or whatever, not good.

0:32:020:32:09

But continuing through the property into the kitchen,

0:32:090:32:12

it's not a bad size, although as you can see the units are fairly tacky.

0:32:120:32:17

OK, need to replace the kitchen. It's the settlement...

0:32:170:32:20

In fact, if you look at that doorframe you can see it's all over the place.

0:32:200:32:25

Let's see if we can see anything outside.

0:32:250:32:28

Oh, hang on a minute.

0:32:280:32:29

Even that doorframe doesn't shut properly. It's not good.

0:32:300:32:34

Here at the rear of the property, a pretty decent-sized garden.

0:32:390:32:42

It needs a bit of tender loving care, some new fence there.

0:32:420:32:45

Largely paved, which is good news, low maintenance if you're going to rent this place out,

0:32:450:32:51

which is a big tick in the box.

0:32:510:32:52

While we're here, you can see the rear of the property,

0:32:520:32:55

largely rendered, so I can't actually see if there are any cracks on the outside as well,

0:32:550:33:03

but there do seem to be lots of places where these various bits of piping have been leaking.

0:33:030:33:07

You can see the staining.

0:33:070:33:09

So maybe that's had a bad effect inside.

0:33:090:33:12

There's also a lot of drains out here, maybe they need investigating.

0:33:120:33:17

It's all pointing to my mind... to getting a surveyor round.

0:33:170:33:21

Upstairs there are two decent sized double bedrooms at the front

0:33:360:33:39

and at the back is bedroom number three.

0:33:390:33:43

Well, it is the third bedroom but it's not really that usable,

0:33:430:33:46

because the main toilet and bathroom is accessed through it, so not ideal.

0:33:460:33:51

Your solution here is probably put some kind of corridor in, I don't think you can do that.

0:33:510:33:55

I think you going to end up losing this bedroom or just accepting it like it is.

0:33:550:33:59

While I'm up here, more examples...

0:33:590:34:01

..that the house isn't in that good a state.

0:34:030:34:07

This place really does trouble me, there are layout issues,

0:34:120:34:18

some cracking doors, wonky doorframes, and some signs of damp.

0:34:180:34:22

To be honest, at present, it's only that £52,000 guide price

0:34:220:34:27

which makes it tempting at all.

0:34:270:34:29

But does the auctioneer who sold it think there's anything structural

0:34:290:34:33

to worry a buyer here?

0:34:330:34:34

As you glance round, it's evident there's a few cracks in the place.

0:34:380:34:41

I don't think it's anything

0:34:410:34:43

that's not routine there - an older property that's been here for a long time.

0:34:430:34:47

It's not going anywhere. It's just a question of filling them in and redecorating.

0:34:470:34:52

I'm still a little concerned,

0:34:520:34:53

but what about the other negatives like the bedroom/bathroom access issue?

0:34:530:34:58

I don't think this house is really ever going to be anything more than a two-bedroomed house.

0:34:580:35:03

The third bedroom you walk through to the bathroom

0:35:030:35:06

is never really going to be a bedroom unless it was a nursery.

0:35:060:35:09

You could put a computer in there, it's usable space, but I think it's only ever going to be two bedrooms.

0:35:090:35:14

Would this make a better buy to let or to sell, what are rental and resale values like in this area?

0:35:140:35:22

There's a lot of investment property around here, simply because it's relatively low cost to buy.

0:35:220:35:27

So there is a rental market, yes, and I would say its value would be around £475 per calendar month.

0:35:270:35:34

If this was done up and for sale, I would say the asking price would probably be around £85,000

0:35:340:35:40

and you'd hope get 80.

0:35:400:35:41

There's a finite value to a property round here and they don't sell that readily,

0:35:410:35:46

that's why many of them are bought for rental purposes.

0:35:460:35:49

Well, that guide price of £52,000, certainly offers scope for a good yield on this one

0:35:490:35:56

as a rental opportunity.

0:35:560:35:57

But I am a little bit concerned about what a surveyor would find if he checked this place out.

0:35:570:36:02

Let's hope whoever bought it had a survey before they did so. Let's go to the auction.

0:36:020:36:08

Tidy little house, ladies and gentlemen,

0:36:120:36:15

good investment material, lot number seven, guide of 52 plus.

0:36:150:36:18

Where do you want to be on this one, 48,000? 48 is bid here, thank you, that's £48,000.

0:36:180:36:24

48,500, at 48,500.

0:36:240:36:28

49, 495. £50,000.

0:36:280:36:34

51, 51, 52 is bid.

0:36:340:36:37

At 52, 53? 53? 52 I have here. I'll take 500?

0:36:370:36:44

At £52,000 it's going to get sold, at 52,000 for the first time,

0:36:440:36:49

52,000 for the second time, third and last opportunity, any higher bid?

0:36:490:36:54

Sold at £52,000, thank you.

0:36:540:36:57

The final bid of £52,000, spot on the guide price, was made by Leicester-based businessman, Ramnik.

0:36:570:37:05

He's director of his own babywear company, he and his wife, Veena,

0:37:050:37:09

also have a number of rental properties, so they're no strangers to property purchasing.

0:37:090:37:15

-Veena, Ramnik, lovely to meet you both, congratulations.

-Thank you.

0:37:150:37:19

So have you bought some investment property like this before?

0:37:190:37:22

Not the old ones, we bought a house in new build, this is our first old property that we have bought.

0:37:220:37:29

Why have you avoided older properties up until now?

0:37:290:37:32

Never got round to it, actually, we just started with new properties and it was working.

0:37:320:37:39

So I just kept at it really.

0:37:390:37:41

But in the current climate, Ramnik has decided that renovating older properties

0:37:410:37:46

would give him a better return on his investment.

0:37:460:37:50

So this house is something of a trial run, a new sensation, if you like.

0:37:500:37:56

It was the £52,000 guide price that attracted them,

0:37:560:38:01

as they felt, financially at the least, that it wasn't a massive risk.

0:38:010:38:05

But there's a big difference between buying a new build

0:38:050:38:08

which comes with guarantees and compliance with regulations,

0:38:080:38:11

and an old property with no such reassurance.

0:38:110:38:14

So this house particularly, what are you going to do to it?

0:38:140:38:18

Well, when we had it, I didn't think that we might have to do that much to it

0:38:180:38:24

but, since then, I think we might be replacing a few items,

0:38:240:38:29

probably doing the kitchen, to do as much as I can within the budget that we have in mind.

0:38:290:38:37

Right, what is that budget?

0:38:370:38:39

-I was thinking of about eight grand.

-OK.

-£8,000.

0:38:390:38:43

There do seem to be some structural problems, don't there?

0:38:430:38:47

-There's a few cracks here and there, have you noticed those?

-No.

0:38:470:38:51

I didn't realise they were that bad, I thought they were just minor problems that could be handled.

0:38:510:38:59

We've seen a bit of dampness in one of the bedrooms but, other than that,

0:38:590:39:03

we didn't think it was that bad.

0:39:030:39:05

-Right.

-The cracks were there but obviously we thought it might be superficial.

0:39:050:39:10

It might be fine but it's worth getting an expert in to check it out.

0:39:100:39:13

I hope I haven't alarmed Ramnik and Veena too much

0:39:130:39:16

but it makes sense to get a property like this checked over by an expert,

0:39:160:39:20

especially when you're not familiar with the problems common to older buildings.

0:39:200:39:25

The couple have only allocated themselves two to three months to get it ready for tenants

0:39:250:39:30

so they need to be certain there is nothing major to be done

0:39:300:39:34

before starting on the new kitchen and redecoration.

0:39:340:39:37

So after this, then, what's the next project on the horizon?

0:39:400:39:44

Well, if it does work out the way we are planning

0:39:440:39:49

and it lets out, then we'll be thinking of a couple more

0:39:490:39:55

in the area because it seems to be all right.

0:39:550:39:57

Congratulations, good luck with this, and I look forward to seeing how you get on.

0:39:570:40:02

-All the best.

-Thank you very much.

0:40:020:40:04

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news

0:40:110:40:14

but I think it is really important that Ramnik and Veena know

0:40:140:40:18

that there might be a few more issues with this property than they are expecting.

0:40:180:40:24

How are they going to get on? You can see later in the show.

0:40:240:40:29

Well, finding good trades people is a key to getting a property done up well and on time

0:40:310:40:39

but sometimes people choose to do the work themselves to maximise profit.

0:40:390:40:43

So have today's buyers being getting stuck in or just getting stuck?

0:40:430:40:48

It was back in the autumn of 2008 when I first visited a large Georgian town house in Southampton.

0:40:480:40:56

I say "town house", but it's been converted to two two-bedroomed flats.

0:40:560:41:00

It was not only in need of refurbishment but also crying out for its original features to be restored.

0:41:000:41:07

Step forward Robin, Sue, and their son Chris.

0:41:070:41:09

They bought the building at auction for £250,000

0:41:090:41:13

and hoped they might be the right people to bring it back to life.

0:41:130:41:18

It seems such a shame that a lovely building,

0:41:180:41:20

a period listed building has been left to end up like this

0:41:200:41:24

in such an awful state.

0:41:240:41:26

I'd just love to put it back to a family home but then I get brought back to earth by Rob and he says...

0:41:260:41:31

I think initially we'll have it as two flats

0:41:310:41:33

and try and get some rental income to cover the loan interest.

0:41:330:41:38

We'll do a makeover on the upstairs flat so we can let that as soon as possible,

0:41:380:41:44

not necessarily do the full restoration.

0:41:440:41:46

Initially Robin took the pragmatic approach,

0:41:460:41:49

aiming to get the property earning some return as soon as possible.

0:41:490:41:52

When we first returned 10 months later,

0:41:520:41:55

they had nearly finished the top-floor flat

0:41:550:41:57

and it seemed that Sue may have got her wish after all.

0:41:570:42:01

It was once we started working on it

0:42:030:42:05

and decided that we could make it reasonable to let

0:42:050:42:10

but then we got a bit carried away, interest rates dropped,

0:42:100:42:14

and after all the effort of stripping all that wallpaper and thought, "This is crazy.

0:42:140:42:19

"We might just as well do the whole thing, just go for it and do it properly."

0:42:190:42:25

So the top-floor flat got a full renovation,

0:42:250:42:28

putting back some of those special qualities that make this kind of property shine.

0:42:280:42:33

After that, they pushed on and finished the rest of the flat.

0:42:370:42:41

Now over two years since we first saw it, we're back.

0:42:430:42:47

Have they managed to finish off that downstairs flat

0:42:470:42:50

and restore this old building's original character and create stylish modern open spaces?

0:42:500:42:56

Well, if the quality of the kitchen is anything to go by, it's not half bad.

0:43:030:43:08

There's been rather a drastic change in here.

0:43:120:43:14

The original kitchen was just running along there and then just a huge space,

0:43:140:43:19

so now we've got everything all built in here with a large breakfast bar,

0:43:190:43:23

granite worktops, all the appliances.

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It'll be a large social kitchen rather than dead space in the middle now.

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Son Chris is a cabinetmaker by trade and has used his skills not only to produce the bespoke kitchen

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but to put some character features back into this flat's sitting room.

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We've completely changed everything in here.

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It was pretty awful, replaced the ceilings, all the coving is brand new.

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There was no fireplace there, but one interesting thing we did find

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was a piece of the original skirting board when we actually dismantled all the fireplace.

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So Chris has managed to reproduce that.

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We've actually now got the new high skirting boards, managed

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to run wiring through inside the skirting board as we were doing it.

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Overall I'm really, really pleased with the finish.

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Well, this room might hide some of its modern attributes, but there is no such modesty in the bathroom.

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In this room we've travertine tiles throughout,

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this towel rail and radiator is an auction site bargain,

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the showerhead there, the LEDs there go blue

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when the water is too cold and red when it's too hot,

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it looks really nice.

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Hi-tech might be the order of the day in the bathroom

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but there's still some work needed to finish off the two bedrooms,

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but overall they really are nearly there.

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How did they approach mixing old and new?

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There's a responsibility to some extent with older property.

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There are so many that have been knocked down, demolished, abused, and it's actually been satisfying.

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I think the nicest thing about what we've done here is the fact that we've tried to bring back

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some of the life to the place rather than being just a bland, boring house with no features.

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This blend of old and new is particularly apparent in the two-bedroom top floor flat.

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Here fireplaces were reinstalled along with the appropriate architraving and skirting boards.

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In addition, for the time being at least,

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it's become a home for son Chris while the work was carried out downstairs.

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How did the family delegate the tasks that were needed for this renovation?

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Chris is naturally a carpenter and cabinetmaker and suchlike, he's done the majority of that.

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Permanently been on site doing a lot of the work, from coving, doors, kitchen.

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I've done more general things, mainly a bit of plumbing, most of the electrical work.

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I'm sourcing everything, finding all the stuff and general dogsbody cleaning up, tidying.

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-General site manager.

-Everything, and site manager.

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There are some jobs outstanding, including separate leases for the two flats,

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but as their double renovation comes to an end, even with the amount of work they've put in themselves,

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there's always a cost to pay.

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Probably the total spend is around £60,000 now.

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Partially that's obviously interest over two years with the bank.

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Robin and Sue bought the whole building for £250,000,

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so with £60,000 spent, their total investment on the two flats

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will be about £310,000.

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Has their patience, dedication, and persistence in getting it done well paid off?

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What do to local estate agents reckon?

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I think the changes are great.

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From looking at the property, it's totally unrecognisable.

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The lower ground floor part reno is fine, I like it very, very much.

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The added benefit is off-road parking.

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Both flats are finished to a high standard,

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particularly the kitchen in the ground floor flat.

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A first-time buyer or young professional would love that.

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The upper flat obviously has got a great feeling of space, the high ceilings, that sort of thing.

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Every room is a good size.

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The attention to detail and finish is very good indeed.

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The only issue is lack of parking.

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Ideally the family would sell both properties,

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but if they could just sell one and rent out the other

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that wouldn't be a bad option either.

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I think both flats would probably rent at similar sorts of values,

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one having parking, one not having parking, that particular value would be around £750 per calendar month.

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I think they'll rent very well.

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I believe you're probably talking about £850 per calendar month to £875 per calendar month.

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-Slightly on the low side.

-Yes, I would have thought nearer £1,000

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because the rental market is very strong.

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Two years ago I thought they rated about £1,000, as I recall.

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So maybe the rental figures are slightly lower than hoped for

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but with a total investment of around £310,000, could they see any profit if they sold?

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When we returned 14 months ago, a local estate agent gave the top flat

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a value of around £220,000 and estimated the lower flat

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would be worth at least £200,000 when complete, but the market has changed considerably since then.

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The upper floor flat is currently on the market at £209,950,

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which would be my recommended asking price at this moment in time, and try and wait out for a sale.

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This flat, whilst being slightly smaller and on the basement level,

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I'd look to go to market at around £175,000, the plus on this one being that it has got parking.

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Recommends would be... upstairs flat, the bigger property, being about £210,000-£215,000,

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and the smaller property but with the garden and the parking

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I would say we're talking about £185,000-£190,000.

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Upstairs I think that's probably about right, downstairs I think they've probably underestimated,

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knowing exactly what's on the market at the moment.

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I think it was valued about 200 last time, I'm not sure that it would go any lower than that now.

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Well, again they may be slightly disappointed by the valuation,

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but even at the lower values, that could be a profit of 75,000.

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However, over the two years it's taken to do the building

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there has been a significant change in the market.

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So knowing what they know now, would they still have taken on such a considerable challenge?

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I still would have done it, definitely.

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Better than staying at home.

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In the Ulverston district of Derby, a two-cum-three bedroomed terraced house came up for auction.

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Although guided at just £52,000, it did have a few issues -

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cracks, springy floorboards, and possible damp problems.

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For company director Ramnik and his wife Veena this was a step into the unknown.

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So have you bought some investment property like this before?

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Not old ones, we bought a house in new build. This is our first old property that we have bought.

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Sold for £52,000, thank you.

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They paid spot on the guide price of £52,000,

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and armed with an £8,000 budget, contracted the work out to a local firm.

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The Leicester-based couple had their fingers crossed that the cracks and damp weren't major concerns.

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Now, three months later, we're back.

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Not surprisingly, from the street,

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the house hasn't changed much because it was in reasonable condition before

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but what's going on behind that front door?

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They've certainly created a much more welcoming reception room...

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..a warm and inviting dining area...

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..and a terrific new kitchen.

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Looks like Ramnik and Veena have really got into the swing of renovating old properties.

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-Quite enjoyed it actually, didn't we?

-Yes, yes.

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We thought we would have more hassle than we had, but it worked out smoothly, didn't it?

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So quite pleased with it, that's why we are excited to try for another one.

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They say a change is as good as a rest and it certainly seems to be the case here.

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Upstairs the two main bedrooms are finished with fresh new fittings and curtains.

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That troublesome third bedroom-cum-study looks much brighter

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and the bathroom has been refurbished, complete with brand-new flooring, toilet and shower.

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But what about the garden?

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Well, when I first saw it, it was in a right mess

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so we cleared the garden and all this fencing,

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it was all damaged and rotten,

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so we've replaced that, including the gate, and really it looks nice.

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So after seeing it, we went further, painted all the walls as well,

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looks a bit better now, that's brilliant. I'm happy with the job.

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It's all looking good

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and luckily it does seem that my worries about some of the structural issues were unfounded.

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There was a major crack on the wall

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so that was a bit of a concern,

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but we found that it turned out all right

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and a new skim and new paint did the job.

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There was nothing major wrong with it.

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Apart from that, we had some problem on the floorboards

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because the floor had sunk down.

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On opening up and taking the floorboards out, we found the joists were all rotten there

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so replaced with new joists and covered with the new flooring there.

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So it was all fine, and something Ramnik's builders could sort

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without too much trouble.

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How much involvement has he had himself here?

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We worked once every other week or something like that.

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Yes, it was once a fortnight

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and I used to follow it up every other day, sort of,

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just to see the progress.

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So a little bit of checking up, a few visits and with Veena sorting out the interior design,

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all Ramnik had to do was provide the money.

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The total we spent, £8,500,

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so £60,500 was, I think, with the legals as well.

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Ramnik and Veena planned to spend around £8,000

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on top of their purchase price of £52,000,

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and it looks like they've pretty much stuck to their budget.

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But have they invested wisely on this, their first renovation project?

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What do two local estate agents think of the work that's been carried out here?

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The work that's been done is very sensible,

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all the boxes have been ticked -

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new kitchen, flooring.

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I think it's the right type of refurbishment for this type of property.

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I think the standard of work has been done to a good standard.

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The kitchen has been fitted to a good level, the bathroom,

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and generally the property has been finished well throughout.

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Although bought as a rental property,

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it's still important for the couple to know

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whether this type of house is a good investment of £60,500.

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I think if the property went on to the market at £79,950, it would sell pretty quickly.

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For property of this type and finish in this area, we would value the property at £80,000.

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Which I feel would be achievable,

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so it's about where I would have expected it.

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I think 80 should be all right.

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So before tax, that could be a healthy resale profit of almost £20,000.

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How would it fare on the all-important rental market?

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The rental market is very strong at the moment, especially in this area,

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I would expect the property would let almost overnight at £450 per calendar month.

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For a rental value for this property in this area I would recommend

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an asking price of £450 per calendar month.

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Dead on, that's exactly what I anticipated.

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We are quite happy with 450.

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£450 a calendar month would generate a very decent yield of nearly 9% per annum

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and certainly makes this new departure worthwhile.

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Now that the kids have grown up, I think we've got a bit of time

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and I think this is quite relaxing

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and we'll take our time in doing what we are

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and hopefully go for a few more.

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With time on their hands and their new-found enthusiasm for renovation,

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it seems this Derby house is likely to be the first of many.

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Well, that's it for now, make sure you join us next time for more Homes Under The Hammer.

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-Goodbye.

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