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Hello. There are property auctions held all over the UK.

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It's a thriving business. Billions of pounds worth of property is sold every year.

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And if you want to find out about buying and selling your home under the hammer,

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you've come to the right place.

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They say you should always do your research before you buy at auction, but what does that mean?

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Well, you should go and see your property, find out as much as you can about it and research the area.

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Yes, it pays to be prepared. So, what tempted the buyers on today's show?

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'Just outside Devizes in Wiltshire,

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'this house may not be perfect inside, but I think its outlook is pretty good.'

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You'd buy this place just for that.

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'Shh, don't tell anyone, but there's a property in South London which is better than it first appears.'

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Secretly, I think I'm going to really like it.

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'And I seem to have misplaced one of the rooms in this building in Colne in Lancashire.'

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Only one thing missing. Where's the bedroom?

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'All these properties went to auction.

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-'We'll find out who bought them and what they paid when they went under the hammer.'

-Your property, sir.

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I'm in Wiltshire in the little village of Easterton

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and a jolly splendid place it is, as well.

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Despite the fact it's on a bit of a commuter route, it's a lovely, tranquil little spot.

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'And you don't have to go far to experience even more remote and beautiful scenery.'

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On the outskirts of the village is a three-bed semi-detached house.

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It had a guide price of 155,000 quid.

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I've been walking up a hill to get there, so hopefully it'll have nice views.

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'Well, it appears to be pretty ordinary from the front.

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'It's an ex-local authority house which always ticks a few boxes for me.

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'Generally, these properties are well-built and structurally sound.'

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So what have we got? Through the front door,

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stairs up to the bedrooms and then into your lounge.

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Obviously hasn't been touched for a little while.

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Needs a new carpet, for sure.

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Bit of stonework by the fireplace dates it. Just change that, you'll be amazed what difference it makes.

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But it's not a bad size space. Then through to the kitchen. But look.

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Seems that somebody's started a bit of restoration. These units are actually pretty nice. Very modern.

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Gives you an idea of what this place could become.

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And I think the real good stuff's outside.

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Hang on a minute, before I even get outside, I need to tell you about this.

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This, unfortunately, is the only bathroom and loo in the property.

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It's basically almost out the back. Not ideal.

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However, what's out the back is.

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You'd hope that a house on the edge of a pretty little village like this would have nice views.

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But you know what? This place surpasses all expectations.

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Look at that.

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Rolling hillside leading into Salisbury Plain in the distance.

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You'd buy this place just for that.

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# It's a perfect view

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'But it doesn't distract completely from the issues with that bathroom.

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'What I want to know is, can you rejig the layout of this place to fit it in upstairs?'

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So, can you, can you, can you?

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Well, you know what? I don't think that's going to be possible

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because you've got a good size room here and then two fairly small bedrooms,

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so without losing one of those bedrooms, which is going to badly detract from the value,

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I think the bathroom has to stay where it is.

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Still, when you do come up here, you can go back to enjoying the views.

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'When the nights draw in and you start getting a bit chilly,

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'there's one thing I definitely want to do with this place - install central heating.

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'But that could prove a problem as there's no gas main into the village

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'so you'd probably need to go for an oil-fired or electric boiler. I'd want to investigate the costs first

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'as it could add quite a lot to your renovation bill.

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'Well, I've certainly fallen in love with the location of the place.

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'What does a local estate agent think of it?

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'This house that went to auction with a guide price of £155,000

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'needs a lot of work.'

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The house itself has got some nice features. There's some nice fireplaces in the bedrooms.

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But in the most part, I think a buyer's going to come in here

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and redo a lot of the property in terms of electrics, decor, kitchens, bathrooms.

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Any buyer needs to decide whether to keep the bathroom downstairs

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or move the bathroom upstairs, which would be more usable.

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It definitely needs a change, but it depends what the buyer does.

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'Ignoring the inside work, I'm sure purchasers will see outside as the main appeal here.'

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The garden's one of the biggest assets of the property.

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There's a lovely big garden that backs onto open fields.

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'Yes, a big attraction, but how much could it be worth once done up?'

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If the buyers were to renovate the property as it stands, as a three-bedroom semi-detached house,

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I think the finished value would be in the region of £200,000.

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In order to rent the property, it requires the renovation, and you would achieve a rental

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of £650 per calendar month.

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'So plenty of things need attention in the house,

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'but there's one thing you can't change, thank goodness.'

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So, a good, solid little house.

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Yes, you'd really like to sort out that bathroom issue,

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and it definitely needs a bit of updating, but you know what?

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For that view, I'd buy it!

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Let's see who was equally enthusiastic when it went under the hammer.

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OK, lot number four, then. Pretty little house, lovely position.

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Terrific views, as you can see from the photograph.

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Where are you going to start me?

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150, anybody? At 140, then. At 140,000.

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At £140,000 we're bid. 142. 4 now may I say?

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At 142. 144.

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46 at the back. 48. 50 to you, sir.

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150. 52.

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54 to you, sir. The bid is at the back at the left, 154.

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156. 158 to you, sir. 158.

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60. 62. 62.

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64. 66.

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£166,000 to you, sir.

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It's against you there. 167.

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£1,000, sir? No. At £166,000 at the back left-hand corner, first time.

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Anybody else? £166,000 for the second time.

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-At 166, third and last time. We're done.

-HAMMER BANGS

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Your number, sir, is...?

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'The successful bid of £166,000 was made by Dennis, here on the left,

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'and his stepson Spencer. Dennis used to run a nightclub

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'and has always had a passion for property. He's bought five buy-to-lets in the past

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'and he and Spencer ran their own kitchen-fitting business for three years.

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'Spencer then worked in the building trade,

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'but they've recently teamed up again to undertake some joint renovations.

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'This will be the third property for the duo.

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'I met up with them to hear about their plans.'

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-Dennis, Spencer, lovely to meet you both.

-Nice to meet you.

-Congratulations.

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We had to talk in the garden, didn't we?

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-Of course, yeah.

-Is that why you bought this?

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-Obviously, yeah.

-Partly, yeah.

-Fantastic, isn't it?

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When we first came to look at the property, as we walked round, that was the first thing I saw

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-and it was just like, "Wow, never mind the house, just look at the view".

-It sold it to us.

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Apart from the view, tell me why you wanted to buy the property.

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We wanted a project for Spencer

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so we bought it and Spencer's going to do the work

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-and we'll split the profits.

-Right.

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-So the relationship between you two is...?

-Spencer's my stepson.

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Great. So is this the first time you've worked together on a project?

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No. We've worked on several projects in the past,

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and also together, cos I'm predominantly a kitchen fitter, bathroom fitter,

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so I do electrics, plumbing, and we've worked together as kitchen fitters in the past.

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Tell me a bit more about what you two did before you started getting into this.

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Well, Spencer was a policeman.

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-Oh, wow!

-And when he left the police force, he found that he wasn't skilled in anything else

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except police work, which apart from being a security guard, there's no call for it.

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So I thought, "What do I know? I'll teach him kitchen fitting."

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So we set up together and we worked together for three years as a partnership.

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'So from the police to pipes and plumbing. Quite a change.

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'So there should be no worries about the kitchen, then. But what about the rest of the property?'

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You see this as a "tart it up and sell it on" or what? What's the plan?

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That's one of the scenarios.

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We're not absolutely decided yet,

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but plan A is to do it up as it is and then sell it on.

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Right. What would plan B be, potentially? Possibly?

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Possibly, because of the nature of the ground and everything,

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we could look to put an extension on, gain an upstairs bathroom.

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Cos obviously, at the moment, the bathroom downstairs isn't anything great,

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so it could be a possibility to turn one of the bedrooms upstairs into a bathroom.

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-Although it would reduce it to two bedrooms, it would affect the sale.

-Talk me through the costings

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for plan A and what you've found out about how much difference it makes losing that bedroom.

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One of the things we've been told by one of the agents we saw

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-was that that third bedroom could be worth £30,000 to us.

-Wow.

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So, obviously, that's a big consideration.

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What are the costs?

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Well, we've made an estimate of about £12,000

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with all the things we costed into plan A.

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Any idea how long it's going to take?

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-I would've thought about eight to ten weeks. Would you agree?

-Yeah.

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-You're doing the work. It's down to you.

-Yeah. Depends how quick I can go.

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-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

-I look forward to coming back and seeing how you got on.

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-Thanks.

-Look forward to it.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

-Good luck.

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So, Dennis and Spencer recognising the potential of this place

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and they've certainly got the experience to make a success of the project.

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All they have to decide is exactly what they're going to do.

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You can find out what they choose later in the show.

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'I'm in New Cross, Southeast London,

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'a vibrant area which recently benefited from the expansion of the East London over-ground line.

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'This means you can now get from here to Central London in around ten minutes.'

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This part of London is also home to Goldsmiths College,

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which has been part of the University of London for 100 years.

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So straight away, I'm thinking possible student let.

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Now, on paper, it's got potential.

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The guide price was £180,000 plus.

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You can see here, it's a four-storey mid-terrace, it's very close to the college.

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Lots of potential for letting rooms out.

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But, come on, let's face it, from the outside, it looks like a right old mess.

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You've got boarded up windows, it's very run down.

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But let's see if the exterior matches the interior. I'm going in.

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'I know you should never judge a book by its cover,

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'but from the outside, this property looks distinctly dog-eared.

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'At one time, it was the office of a charitable organisation.

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'But when they moved out, some less than charitable squatters moved in.

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'So security shutters were put on and it's been empty for a while now.'

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I tell you what, it's quite noisy and hectic out there.

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And when you shut this door, ohh, lovely and silent.

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It's exactly what I would've expected to have seen on the inside.

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You've got graffiti everywhere, it looks like it's been vandalised, you've got woodchip wallpaper.

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But you have got a few nice little bits and pieces here, like this banister,

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you've got this nice little bit of panelling here.

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I'll be quite excited to see if there's some nice hidden features.

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Overall, secretly, I think I'm going to really like it!

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'And there's quite a lot to like, with several rooms spread over four floors.

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'There's what was almost a kitchen, a nearly bathroom,

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'because there are no fixtures and fittings,

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'and three rooms with decor that's, er, not to everyone's taste.'

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# But I see the writing on the wall

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# The love light's gone from your eyes

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'But not totally, because fortunately,

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'there's less graffiti in the three rooms on the first floor.

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'And up above on the second floor, there are two more large rooms.

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'Finally, up on the top floor, there are two spacious rooms

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'with great views across the city.

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'But it's the inside views that are upsetting

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'in that so much charm and character has been spoiled by neglect

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'and in some cases blatant vandalism.

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'It's dispiriting to see the house in such a sorry state.

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'The only remedy would be to renovate it from top to bottom.

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'But before that, let's consider what's the best way forward for this old property.'

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We have two options here, I think. One option is to do this place up

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and let it as individual rooms, probably to students.

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But then you enter the realms of the HMO, which is house of multiple occupancy,

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and there are all sorts of guidelines and conditions attached

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concerning fire safety and also facilities, like the number of bathrooms.

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And you also have to be licensed as "fit for use" by the local council.

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'Converting it into an HMO could be quite expensive.

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'You need to fit fire alarms and fire doors, and with at least seven letable rooms,

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'that could be a logistical nightmare.'

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The other option is to divide this place up into individual flats.

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Now, you would need planning permission for that and that is never guaranteed,

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but if you did get permission, I reckon you could fit four flats in that property,

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one on each floor, and this ground floor flat could be fabulous!

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You could extend right the way out here, have big bi-fold doors

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opening out to this lovely little garden here.

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Four flats in this area, that could really stack up financially.

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'Or if you like this kind of house, you could renovate it as a single family home.

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'There are certainly a number of options for this four-storey house

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'that was guided at £180,000.

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'Time to ask a local estate agent what's the best way forward.'

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A house would probably be the least favourable

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because I think the busy road may be too much for a family.

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'The New Cross area is in desperate need of flats for students and young professionals

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'so letting out rooms here would be a good idea.'

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Students lets are very good to let out,

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however, only for ten-month periods.

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You could achieve, for a room with the utilities in,

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depending on the size and the furnishings,

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approximately £450 to £500 per month.

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'So with seven rooms, the investor could have a monthly rental income of £3,500.

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'But the estate agent reckons converting into flats and letting them out

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'could earn a possible £3,900 a month.

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'So there would be more for flat rentals than student lets. But what if it was sold?'

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As one entire building, as a family home,

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taking into consideration the very busy road,

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I would anticipate for it to achieve around £500,000 to £520,000.

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'But if the house was converted into four flats,

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'two two-beds and two one-beds ones, the final approximate sale figure

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'could be £940,000.'

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This property has that word beloved of estate agents - potential.

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You could let to students here, you could divide this up into flats,

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but you should never underestimate the amount of work that is to do here first.

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So who was tempted, not intimidated, by the scale of this project?

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Let's find out when we head to auction.

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Who wants to start me off on lot 83?

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200,000, anybody?

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Thank you. 200 I've got. See where it goes from here.

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Thank you, how much? 205? 205.

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210. 215. 220.

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225. 230. 230.

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235. 240.

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245. 250. 255.

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260. 265. 270.

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270. 275. 280.

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276 if it helps.

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-Yeah? Still cheap. 276, yeah?

-280.

-OK, 280.

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'That initial guide price of £180,000 has now been left way behind.

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'We rejoin the auction with the bidding at £325,000.'

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325. 326.

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Back to you. It's with you at £325,000.

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Against you, straight ahead. 325 for the first.

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325 for the second.

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325. 326, back in.

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Nearly. 327. 328.

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329. 330.

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331. 332.

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He said that last time. 331 for the first.

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331 for the second.

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-331 for the third and final time. Are we all done?

-HAMMER BANGS

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Sold for 331. Well bought.

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'That final successful bid was made by 28-year-old property entrepreneur Sean.

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'He got it for £331,000,

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'151 grand over the guide price.

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'I met him at the New Cross house to hear why he was so keen to buy it.'

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Sean, congratulations. What appealed to you about this property?

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-It's on a very busy main road.

-Yeah, it is, but it's the area and its potential.

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You've now got an East London line, so you can be in Central within four to six minutes, so it's perfect

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for the first time buyer and the young professional.

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The size of the property, it's got so much scope for what we're looking at,

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-a HMO or convert it to four flats. A lot of potential.

-So you looked beyond the dust, the dirt,

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-the grime, the graffiti, the wallpaper. I mean, it's in a right old state.

-It is.

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-It needs a lot of work.

-Tell me about your property portfolio

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-and how you've been going over the last few years.

-I started when I was 16.

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My father lent me some money to get me going, I put a deposit on a property, bought a flat, renovated,

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before I went to university. At university, I bought two properties with the funds from that property.

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I didn't really have time to do much when I was there, but I dabbled a little bit to keep me going.

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I came out of university, back into banking, did that for three years

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and then left banking and now I'm full-time.

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'Sean's certainly been busy. The portfolio he built up was based in Bournemouth, where he studied.

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'But since moving to London, he's sold most of it to concentrate on buying in the big city.

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'12 years on from his first property purchase as a 16-year-old,

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'he now has his own development company. What drives him?'

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# The only living boy

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# In New Cross

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I worked in banking, but it's not rewarding. The money is great, but the rewards aren't great

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and you don't get to see anything for your end product. Property, you see everything.

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You see the transformation from beginning to end and when someone buys your property, it's rewarding.

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-What do you think you're going to do with this? Convert it into flats?

-I think so.

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I'm speaking to the council. The best option at the moment would be to do four flats.

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Give me a rough layout of how the flats are going to be.

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We're working on open-plan layouts on the flats.

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With the ground-floor two-bed flat, an open-plan sitting room/dining room opening out to the garden.

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The first, second and third floor all mimic each other, open floor living to the front,

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-bedroom and bathroom to the rear.

-Will they be one-bedroom flats apart from the ground floor?

-Yes.

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-The first, second and third floors, one-bedroom flats.

-What do you do to give them that wow factor?

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Have you got a trademark, something you do?

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Yeah. It's the quality of the finish.

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Materials don't always have to be the highest material costs

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but the finish is what... I'm a perfectionist

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so from paintwork to carpentry and all that sort of thing, we want it to look top spec.

0:21:530:21:57

-What happens if something doesn't look good? How do you react?

-Ripped out and start again.

0:21:570:22:02

-So you really are a perfectionist.

-It is a bad, bad trait, yeah.

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Is that just through working in property?

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I think it's my engineering degree, as well. It has to be pretty much spot-on.

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I brought that degree into the workplace where maybe, in property,

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you shouldn't be like that, but I can't help it.

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So you're an absolute nightmare to live with.

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To live with and to work with, yeah.

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'It sounds like this house could be emerging from its own nightmare into a dreamland comparatively.

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'But for that, Sean has to get planning permission to change its use from commercial to residential.

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'If successful, he's got a budget of £120,000 to £150,000

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'to get the flat up and running and add that wow factor to attract buyers.'

0:22:450:22:49

We always go for corporate lets if we're renting, which is the higher end of the market,

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or if we're selling, we go for the young professional.

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It sounds like you know exactly what you're doing. Are there are worries?

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Anything you're a little bit, "Shouldn't have done that"?

0:23:000:23:04

I think it's just timing. We've got so many projects on the go at the moment.

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Ideally, we want to get it finished in six months,

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but it's a case of juggling the other projects to fit.

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-Do you think you'll fancy one of these flats yourself?

-I have bagsied the ground floor one potentially.

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-It's a nice area, but I don't know if it's for me just yet.

-Good luck. I can't wait to see what you do

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-and see whether you move into the ground floor or the penthouse.

-Maybe.

-Good luck.

-Thanks. Bye.

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Sean caught the property bug at a seriously young age.

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Buying your first house when you're a teenager? Wow! That really is something.

0:23:350:23:40

But this is a big project for him and potentially more problematic.

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It all hangs on getting that planning permission to convert this into flats.

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Will he get the planning consent he needs and will the work really be done in just six months?

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And will he move in? You can find out what happens later on in the programme.

0:23:540:23:59

'Coming up, in the Lancashire town of Colne, I'm in for a little surprise with this place.'

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You've got to be kidding.

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'In the New Cross area of South London, it seems Sean has gone right back to basics with his purchase.'

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We have gutted the building from top to bottom.

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'But first, we return to Wiltshire to see if this three-bed semi is now a hot property.'

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Before we had the central heating put in, it was pretty bad.

0:24:260:24:30

'Just outside the Wiltshire town of Devizes, I came across a three-bed semi-detached house

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'that was pretty ordinary on the inside

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'but outside it had some fantastic views across Salisbury Plain.

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'It was a combination of the views and the house's potential

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'that attracted property developing team Dennis and Spencer

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'to part with £166,000 to buy it at auction.

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'Even though this stepfather and son partnership

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'were not 100 percent certain of what they were going to do with it.'

0:25:000:25:04

# Oh, you've got to have a plan

0:25:040:25:07

Plan A is to do it up as it is and then sell it on.

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Right. What would plan B be potentially? Possibly?

0:25:130:25:17

Possibly, because of the nature of the grounds, possibly look to put an extension on.

0:25:170:25:23

'But whether it was plan A or plan B,

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'the plan was that ex-policeman- cum-bathroom-and-kitchen-fitter Spencer did the renovation

0:25:270:25:33

'while Dennis predominantly project-managed the work.'

0:25:330:25:36

'But eight months on, which plan did they opt for?

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'Well, by the look of things, they've come up with a plan C.

0:25:450:25:48

'Spencer and girlfriend Judith fell in love with the place,

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'the views in particular, and decided to make it their home.'

0:25:520:25:55

# Then it all changed

0:25:570:26:00

# You know when something's worth hanging onto

0:26:000:26:03

# Anyway...

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'But however lovely the views, you can't live in a view,

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'and the house needed a lot of work.

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'There was no central heating, a downstairs bathroom and dated decor.

0:26:130:26:17

'So Judith was keen some changes were made right away.

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Before we moved in, I did kind of insist that we needed to get some decent carpet in,

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because when we pulled it up, it was so old, all the underneath of it pretty much came away.

0:26:260:26:31

Well, living here, it was pretty cold.

0:26:350:26:38

Before we had the central heating put in, it was pretty bad.

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The lounge, Spencer went to quite a lot of trouble with his mother, who came over to help.

0:26:470:26:52

They'd done all the lounge, so it felt like at least we had a nice room that was ready.

0:26:520:26:58

We could sit there and it would be peaceful while the rest of the house was in a little bit a chaos.

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'Having established a base by having sorted out the lounge,

0:27:020:27:06

'they started to tackle the rest of the house.

0:27:060:27:08

'For now, they've just spruced up the kitchen

0:27:080:27:11

'and Spencer's concentrated his skills on creating an upstairs bathroom.'

0:27:110:27:15

So, this was our third bedroom

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and it's a small bedroom, but it's a good size bathroom.

0:27:190:27:24

The bathroom downstairs is single-skinned, it's very cold, the walls get quite damp,

0:27:240:27:30

so we decided to put the bathroom up here and forsake a bedroom.

0:27:300:27:34

It's heaven in comparison to what we were having to put up with before.

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'And it does make a great bathroom.

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'And for Judith and Spencer, two bedrooms are fine for the moment.

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'With the central heating installed, a rewire and walls replastered,

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'those remaining two bedrooms are just a lick of paint away from being finished.

0:27:560:28:01

'They've even found space for Judith's two rabbits, Jack and Henry.

0:28:060:28:11

'They will eventually be moved to improved accommodation in the garden once it's fox-proofed.

0:28:110:28:17

'But when will Judith and Spencer improve their accommodation?'

0:28:170:28:20

I guess the long-term plan would really be to extend,

0:28:200:28:24

to put in a garage and then perhaps gain that third bedroom back above it

0:28:240:28:30

and then even outside, to have a small conservatory, extend the kitchen out.

0:28:300:28:34

So they could be long-term plans. But, obviously, it depends on how far we get with the property.

0:28:340:28:41

'Given the change in circumstances, the couple have come to an agreement with Spencer's stepfather Dennis.

0:28:410:28:48

'It means that while he paid for the house, they will cover the renovation costs and will pay rent

0:28:480:28:53

'to compensate for interest he would've earned had he kept the money in the bank.

0:28:530:28:58

'The long-term plan is for Spencer and Judith to buy the house outright themselves.

0:28:580:29:03

'So what are the costs so far?'

0:29:030:29:07

I think, in total, the biggest costs have been the rewire and installing the central heating,

0:29:070:29:14

so I think to date we're probably looking at about £8,000 to £10,000.

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That includes the bathroom and all the decorating, plastering.

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'Adding the initial £166,000 purchase price

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'to their approximately £10,000 spend,

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'their outlay on what's now a two-bed house would be around £180,000, including costs and fees.

0:29:330:29:39

'Is that a good investment? What are the views of two local property experts?'

0:29:390:29:44

The work they've undertaken to date is of a good quality.

0:29:460:29:49

I particularly like the bathroom.

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I think that if they continue to finish the house to this high standard,

0:29:520:29:56

it will be desirable in the market.

0:29:560:29:59

At the moment, what they've done they've done really well.

0:29:590:30:02

They admit themselves that the property does need finishing off.

0:30:020:30:05

It perhaps could benefit from an extension.

0:30:050:30:08

'It's Spencer and Judith's new home, so they're not looking to rent it out.

0:30:080:30:12

'But does it have good rental potential?'

0:30:120:30:15

I would consider a rental value in the region of £600, perhaps £625 per calendar month.

0:30:150:30:21

A two-bedroom property of this style in this area

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would rent for £625 per calendar month.

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'Perhaps a four percent yield on rental is reasonably OK.

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'But would their £180,000 investment do better if it was resold?'

0:30:310:30:37

I would recommend a guide price of £200,000

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and expect possibly to receive offers based on that.

0:30:390:30:43

If you put the property on the market at the moment, with finishing off to be done,

0:30:430:30:47

I'd suggest a guide price of £180,000.

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If the property was extended, then I would consider a guide price of £250,000

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would reflect the work they've undertaken.

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If you were to extend the property and create a fourth bedroom, a more comprehensive extension,

0:30:580:31:03

I would imagine you'd reach the stamp duty threshold of £250,000.

0:31:030:31:07

-Yeah, good, good.

-Very good.

-Yeah.

0:31:070:31:09

-Goes to show there's a lot that can be done here.

-Yeah. Well, it's always had potential.

0:31:090:31:15

'Certainly the resale figures give plenty of encouragement,

0:31:150:31:18

'not only to finish off the house, but to go ahead with an extension.

0:31:180:31:22

'Now they've lived here a few months, have the views lived up to expectations?'

0:31:220:31:26

Well, fantastic, really. Throughout the year, you can see it change.

0:31:270:31:31

Mm. The seasons. It's lovely with the seasons.

0:31:310:31:35

# There is a season, turn, turn, turn

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'Perhaps like the seasons, this house has surprised them

0:31:400:31:44

'by turning from a development project into their new home.'

0:31:440:31:48

'Today I'm in the sleepy mill town of Colne in East Lancashire.

0:31:520:31:57

'Once known for its mill industry,

0:31:570:31:59

'there's plenty of evidence for its glory days in the heart of the Lancashire cotton industry.

0:31:590:32:04

'It's also the birthplace of Wallace Hartley,

0:32:040:32:07

'who famously continued playing as the doomed unsinkable ship the Titanic sank.

0:32:070:32:13

'It's not far from Manchester and Leeds and the Lake District beckons to the north,

0:32:130:32:17

'but this is a quiet little town with loads of shops, a couple of markets

0:32:170:32:21

'and you're never far from a bank.'

0:32:210:32:24

The property I'm here to see is the rear of a bank.

0:32:240:32:28

It's been converted into three flats. The guide price was 65,000 to 70,000 quid.

0:32:280:32:32

Big question is, will it be worth a mint one day? Who knows?

0:32:320:32:36

Good news - there's lots of renovation going on nearby.

0:32:360:32:40

Let's see if it's mintier inside.

0:32:400:32:42

'Sitting right on the corner, this is the back end of the rather impressive bank building.

0:32:420:32:48

'They used to say, "Put your money in a bank, it's as safe as houses".

0:32:480:32:51

# My daddy was a bank robber

0:32:510:32:54

# But he never hurt nobody

0:32:540:32:56

'Could this building, with three self-contained one-bedroom flats,

0:32:560:33:01

'guided at £65,000 to £70,000, be a steal?'

0:33:010:33:04

I don't know what you'd do about that, but that is a massive space that's a bit wasted in the entrance.

0:33:040:33:10

But into the first flat and, well, one big area here, very high ceilings

0:33:100:33:17

which definitely gives a small flat a lovely feeling of space.

0:33:170:33:20

Kitchen looks recently refurbished. That's good. Bathroom at the back.

0:33:200:33:24

Only one thing missing. Where's the bedroom?

0:33:240:33:27

You've got to be kidding. This is absolutely tiny.

0:33:300:33:33

Just about big enough for a single bed, I would say.

0:33:330:33:37

And it smells damp. That's not good, is it?

0:33:370:33:41

'Hm, small isn't the word.

0:33:410:33:43

'The bedrooms are tiny and the flats, well, they're really just apartments.'

0:33:430:33:48

# The small things make the big things what they are

0:33:480:33:53

'All three of them are the same compact size.

0:33:530:33:56

'From the middle floor to the top floor.

0:34:000:34:03

'But from an investment point of view, this could be a case of small is beautiful.'

0:34:070:34:12

# The small things make the big things what they are

0:34:120:34:17

'What does a local estate agent think?'

0:34:170:34:20

This property, there's not much that probably could be done with it,

0:34:240:34:28

apart from a lick of paint and a re-carpet.

0:34:280:34:31

But someone will take this on and make it into a decent property.

0:34:310:34:36

'If there's not much you can do with them, can you still do enough to get any financial uplift?

0:34:360:34:42

'Remember, this place was guided at £65,000 to £70,000.'

0:34:420:34:47

Once renovated, I would expect these flats to go for £40,000 to £45,000 each.

0:34:470:34:53

I expect each of these flats to rent out for £200 per calendar month.

0:34:580:35:04

'That rental return would be £600 a month in total

0:35:050:35:10

'or £7,200 a year.

0:35:100:35:13

'On a property that was guided at £65,000 to £70,000, that could mean a ten percent yield.'

0:35:130:35:18

Well, the flats aren't huge, but they don't need a lot of work to sort them out

0:35:200:35:24

and I reckon they could be a good little earner. Let's see who fancied it when it went under the hammer.

0:35:240:35:29

Lot number 152.

0:35:300:35:33

Part former bank premises, converted into three self-contained apartments

0:35:330:35:39

offered with vacant possession. Looking for 30 to start me.

0:35:390:35:43

£30,000. 30 there. Can I say 35?

0:35:430:35:47

35,000. 35 I've got here. 40.

0:35:470:35:51

Another 5. 40 I have.

0:35:510:35:53

45 now? Got it.

0:35:530:35:55

Can I say 50? 50 I have.

0:35:550:35:57

55. I have. 60.

0:35:570:35:59

60, yes? 60 I have. 65, then.

0:36:000:36:04

No? Would 61 help?

0:36:040:36:06

No, it doesn't. At £60,000 on my right.

0:36:060:36:10

Looking for 61. Are we finished at 60?

0:36:100:36:13

61 there, sir. 62 now.

0:36:130:36:16

63, sir. 64. Another one?

0:36:160:36:20

I've got it. 65. 66.

0:36:200:36:24

No, looking away. At 65,000. Centre aisle.

0:36:240:36:28

Are we finished at £65,000? I'll sell it for that figure.

0:36:280:36:31

First time at 65.

0:36:310:36:34

-Second time at £65,000. Are we finished?

-HAMMER BANGS

0:36:340:36:37

Yes, we are. It belongs to you, sir. Could I see your paddle number, please?

0:36:370:36:41

'Hidden from view, for £65,000, the successful bidder was Howard.

0:36:420:36:47

'He is, appropriately enough, a retired banker.

0:36:470:36:51

'He joined me, along with his wife Karen, to tell me why he thought

0:36:510:36:54

'the former bank building was a good investment.'

0:36:540:36:57

Howard, Karen, lovely to meet you both. Congratulations. Tell me why you wanted to buy this place.

0:36:570:37:02

What first interested me in the building was

0:37:020:37:06

it was owned by the bank that I used to work for when I first left school.

0:37:060:37:11

Oh, fantastic! And anything else about it that initially struck?

0:37:110:37:15

Yes, well, when I go to these auctions, I always have a look at the last conveyance in the pack.

0:37:150:37:22

And I noticed that this property that I bought for £65,000

0:37:220:37:26

-changed hands two years ago for £105,000.

-Oh!

-So a 40 percent reduction is quite good.

0:37:260:37:32

-Being a banker, I tend to look for a yield of ten percent return on the capital, you see?

-Right.

0:37:320:37:38

And I think, with these flats. I could probably get a good ten percent, maybe 15 percent yield.

0:37:380:37:44

-Definitely. For sure. And Karen, what did you think when you saw it?

-I didn't see it till today.

0:37:440:37:50

Howard comes back from these auctions and says, "I bought you another present."

0:37:500:37:55

Present in inverted commas. I'm never really sure what he's bought.

0:37:550:37:59

-THEY LAUGH

-So I'm quite pleasantly surprised.

-Does he ever gift wrap them?

0:37:590:38:04

-No.

-A bow on the door, perhaps?

-Should do.

-THEY LAUGH

0:38:040:38:09

'Well, some women get diamonds and pearls from their husbands,

0:38:100:38:14

'but it seems Karen gets an investment property.

0:38:140:38:17

'They plan to add this building to their small portfolio.'

0:38:170:38:21

So tell me about you two. Are you local or what?

0:38:220:38:25

Well, I was born in Bolton. We both live in Lytham St Annes now.

0:38:250:38:30

-Oh, right. So the other side of the country.

-I've retired from banking now.

0:38:300:38:35

We both got involved in local politics. We're on the council.

0:38:350:38:39

-Yes, Fylde Borough.

-Lytham St Annes.

-Oh, wow. OK. What kind of level have you attained on that?

0:38:390:38:44

-Well, I'm leader of my party.

-Right.

0:38:440:38:48

-Fantastic!

-After being on 16 years.

-Great. Does that mean you have aspirations to be more?

0:38:480:38:54

-Mm. Well, if things go right, I may be given the mayor of the borough next year.

-Oh, great!

0:38:540:38:59

-Oh, fantastic!

-If I get re-elected.

-You get to wear the chain and everything.

-Yes.

0:38:590:39:04

-Wonderful.

-And I have to wear hats.

-You have to wear hats. Marvellous.

0:39:040:39:08

-And what do you do when you're not doing this sort of thing?

-Erm, I'm a magistrate and a school governor.

0:39:080:39:14

-I'm chairman of our local music festival.

-Wow!

0:39:140:39:17

'So these two really are pillars of their local community.

0:39:170:39:20

'I'm sure they have clear ideas of how they're going to proceed with their flat triplets.'

0:39:200:39:25

Tell me what you are going to do to sort it out.

0:39:250:39:27

Tidy it up, basically. Fill in all the cracks, the holes, get all the wiring checked.

0:39:270:39:33

Some of it looks suspect. Some of the wiring and the pipes.

0:39:330:39:36

There's no heating that I can see. So that has also got to be sorted.

0:39:360:39:41

The kitchens and bathrooms look in a reasonable condition.

0:39:410:39:44

Erm, apart from that, just general tidying and cleaning.

0:39:440:39:50

So what kind of budget have you got set aside for sorting it out?

0:39:500:39:53

-I wouldn't say it would cost more than £10,000 at the most. Maybe five.

-Right.

0:39:530:39:59

And in terms of timescales, to get it back and sorted?

0:39:590:40:02

-I'd say four to six weeks.

-Yes.

-No more than that.

-Yes.

0:40:020:40:07

-So who's going to do the work?

-Guess.

-I don't know, you?

0:40:070:40:11

I won't be doing the work but I'll be organising it.

0:40:110:40:14

-Right.

-I'm the practical one of the partnership.

-I'm afraid I'm not much of a handyman, you know?

0:40:140:40:20

-You won't be out round here with your roller or your drill.

-No!

0:40:200:40:25

I look after the house finances, Karen is the more practical one.

0:40:250:40:29

-Well, listen, congratulations.

-Thank you.

0:40:290:40:31

-Good luck with it. I look forward to seeing how you get on.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:40:310:40:35

'Well, as Howard continues his ambition for high office,

0:40:350:40:39

'I suspect this high office should be slightly easier to achieve the end results that he hopes for.'

0:40:390:40:45

Well, Howard and Karen certainly seem to know what they're doing and the figures do stack up,

0:40:480:40:53

so Howard will be delighted.

0:40:530:40:55

I'm a bit concerned that there will be more work to sort out these flats than they think.

0:40:550:40:59

Because people do demand a lot these days.

0:40:590:41:02

Still, you can find out how they get on later in the show.

0:41:020:41:05

This is the part of the programme where we find out if all those dreams came true.

0:41:080:41:13

Yes, did our buyers achieve what they wanted? Or were there hazards in their way?

0:41:130:41:18

Let's return and find out.

0:41:180:41:20

'In the New Cross area of South London,

0:41:200:41:24

'a large, four-storey, seven-bedroom mid-terrace property went to auction.

0:41:240:41:28

'But this former office block had been empty for a while. Not only had it fallen into disrepair,

0:41:280:41:33

'but it had been used as a squat and was covered in graffiti.'

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# Have you seen the writing on the wall

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# Reaching out for your calls?

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# Have you seen the writing on the wall reaching out for your calls?

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'But none of this put off 28-year-old developer Sean.'

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# Writing on the walls

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'He paid £331,000 at auction. After all, he is an old hand at this game.'

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Basically it started when I was 16. My father lent me some money to get me going, a deposit on a property.

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Bought a flat, renovated, before I went to university.

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At university I bought two properties with those funds from that property.

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With studies I didn't have much time to do much when I was there, so I dabbled to keep me going.

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Came out of university, back into banking, did that for three years.

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Then I left banking and I'm full-time.

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'With his latest purchase, he hoped to convert the building into four flats.

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'But even with his experience and enthusiasm, this large building was a daunting task.

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'What's the writing on the wall for this former office block?

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'Well, eight and a half months later, we're back.'

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'With the security shutters off, new windows and doors and fresh paintwork,

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'the outside shows promise. What about inside?'

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The only four walls that remained were the outer four walls.

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We have gutted the building from top to bottom.

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'By ripping it back to a shell, Sean was able to reconfigure the whole building.

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'It was the ground floor where the most significant changes occurred. as it was converted

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'into an amazingly spacious two-bedroom flat

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'by adding a large, single-storey extension.'

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OK, so this is the ground floor extension that we've newly built.

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We've increased the floor area of this flat by 100 percent. Had a few issues with planning.

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The way we navigated around the planning issues is by incorporating a courtyard area

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into this flat which allows ventilation and light into the back bedroom.

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Really happy with the extension. The turnout is a good spec.

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We still have to do the floor and the kitchen, which will be a galley kitchen.

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But really happy so far.

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'If that extension wasn't enough extra room,

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'the ground floor flat not only had sole access to the garden,

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'but Sean had also built a separate annex at the bottom of the garden,

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'perfect for a study or an office.

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'Whereas upstairs, on the first and second floors, there are two one-bedroom flats,

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'both in need of some finishing off, but well on their way.

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'All the flats have solid wood flooring and fully-fitted kitchens.

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'And on the top floor, there is another one-bed flat.'

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So this is the front living-dining room for flat four on the roof, on the top floor.

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Kitchen has solid oak worktops, high white gloss units, erm, stainless steel oven and hood.

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The same spec throughout the whole building. It works well. Quite happy with the finish. It looks good.

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'Sean did have some delays with planning, sorting out the skylight windows on this flat,

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'and he's also been busy on other projects, but generally it's all gone pretty smoothly.

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'Sean is a self-confessed perfectionist, so as project manager, was he very picky?'

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Extremely picky. Honestly, to the last details, finish, paintwork.

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Paintwork is the finished object. If you walk into a flat with poor paintwork, it's noticed.

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That's one of my big issues. Also bathrooms and tiling, it's a case of a tiler can do a great job,

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and the person behind them doing the silicone can do an awful job and the bathroom can look shocking.

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So, overall, yeah, it's a case of I'm very picky. And I think it's noticed when you see the units.

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'And he's right. So far it does look like there's going to be a good standard of finish here.'

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# I only want to make things right

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'That is so important in the ultra-competitive London market.

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'But getting a quality finish doesn't come cheap.'

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# Only want to make things right

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We've actually come in at 155. With the finishing touches, probably about another 10,000 to go.

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So we're looking about the 160, 165 mark in total on this project.

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'£165,000 spend on top of the £331,000 purchase price,

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'plus costs and fees, would take Sean's investment here to a cool half a million pounds.

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'So can his four flats still add up to making a profit? What do two local estate agents think?'

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Very, very good. What was a derelict building

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is now a very well-developed block of flats.

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I feel the flat has been decorated to a very good standard.

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Er, neutral decor, great finishing on the kitchen.

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And will definitely appeal to the young market in this area.

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'At present, Sean plans to sell two of the flats and rent out two of them.

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'So how could that work financially?'

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Looking at the one-bed flats, I believe you'll get between £800 and £850 per calendar month.

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However, the top floor one will get less because of the size. It may go down to £750, £775.

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The two-bedroom flat I believe will get around £1,100 per calendar month mark.

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For the two-bedroom downstairs, I believe we could achieve up to £1,100 per calendar month.

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And for the one-bedroom flat, between £800 and £850 per calendar month.

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The top flat is slightly smaller. I believe we could achieve between £700 to £775 per calendar month.

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'Even on the lowest estimate, that's an annual income from the four flats of £31,000.

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'Or a respectable six percent yield.

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'But with around £500,000 invested here, how would they fare on the resale market?'

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The sales market for the properties, the two-bedroom flat would pretty much pan out at £250,000.

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However, with a good wind, he may break that barrier.

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So if I was him, I'd be a bit cheeky, put it on for £265,000, £270,000 and take offers from there.

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In regards to the one-beds, I believe the first and second floor one-beds would get around £180,000.

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And the actual top floor flat, I think that's going to be £170,000,

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I'm afraid, just cos of the sheer size of it. It will be the last flat to go, or he may keep it to rent.

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Right, I believe the two-bedroom would achieve between £250,000 to £275,000.

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And the one-beds would be about £180,000.

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But the slightly smaller property at the top would be between £165,000 to £175,000.

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'Well, that little lot adds up to values of between £775,000 and £810,000.

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'Or a potential pre-tax profit of around £300,000.

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'Wow! Sean must be happy with those figures.'

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It's been a longer project than we expected. But on those figures, it's all good.

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'Undoubtedly another successful project for Sean.

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'Does he still see his future in property?'

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Yeah, as a naive 17-year-old, I said, "At 30, I'll be retiring". So it's a couple of years away yet.

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But it's enjoyable, it's fun and it's rewarding when you've got this at the end of the day. We'll see how we go.

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'He may not be planning to retire soon, but with over ten years experience already as a developer,

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'he certainly seems to have an old head on young shoulders.'

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# We are young, we are young

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'It was in the Lancashire town of Colne that we came across

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'a property where you got three for the price of one.

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'Originally owned by the bank it was attached to,

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'this tall, imposing building had been converted into three self-contained flats.

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'They were, to say the least, rather compact.

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'But despite their size, retired banker Howard and his wife Karen

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'thought that actually these small apartments could give big returns.

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'For Howard, it was all about the money.'

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# I need a dollar, dollar, dollar is what I need

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-Being a banker, I tend to look for a yield of ten percent return on the capital, you see.

-Right.

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I think with these flats, I could probably get a good ten percent, maybe 15 percent yield.

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-Definitely. For sure. And Karen, what did you think when you saw it?

-I didn't see it till today.

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Howard comes back from these auctions and says, "I bought you another present."

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Present in inverted commas. I'm never really sure what he's bought.

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'Howard and Karen are based 40 minutes away in Lytham St Annes, where Howard is a local councillor.

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'And surprise present or not, this purchase was all about getting a decent return on their investment.

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'With a budget of between £5,000 to £10,000 for all three flats, they set about their task.

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'Just under three months later, we're back.

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'So, how's it all been going?'

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Howard bought it at auction about three months ago,

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right at that time we were suddenly projected into the electioneering for local councils,

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so we had to find someone to take it on.

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And you asked your nephew, Daniel, to act as the project manager.

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He came and we came with him and talked about what needed doing.

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'So did Howard's nephew Daniel manage to deliver the goods?'

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'Certainly the flats have been spruced up. New carpets, curtains and paintwork.

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'And the place has been given a good clean. So it appears as though it was all fairly straightforward.'

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Well, the only problems we encountered was when we spoke to the pub landlord next door.

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He told us, he said, "Do you know the history of the place?"

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And then we found out there had been a fire about three years ago

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and there'd been a flood and the bottom flat, apparently, was three feet high in flood water.

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'So, it seems the flats came with a bit of a chequered past.

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'But those problems seem to have been washed away.

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'And having removed any sign of damp by replastering in the ground floor flat,

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'they also tried their best to improve the bedroom area.'

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We thought it was rather dark in there,

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and we've put in these windows above each door,

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which means that it has natural light in there and is not so much of a cupboard.

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'Well, the bedroom might be brighter, but no bigger.

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'However they did find some additional space elsewhere.'

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This yard is... When I bought the property, I didn't realise this is an extra

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because we have access over this, right of access over this yard.

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And I think we could do something with it.

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We tidied it up. It's much better than it was.

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But I think if we paved it and put a few hanging plants from this wall,

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and use these steps as a bit of a feature, I think it could make quite a difference.

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And it could be a smoking area for your guests, as well.

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'Any outside space is welcome in a flat. Especially when they are as compact as these three.

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'So making this space accessible to tenants certainly gets my vote.

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'But did Howard do it enough in his local elections to get what he hoped for?'

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Most of our time was given to canvassing, knocking on doors,

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reminding people of the 16 years he'd given to the borough.

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And he came back in top of the poll with an increased majority.

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So he is now mayor of the Fylde Borough Council.

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# Hello, citizens, all right, follow me

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# And vote for Mr Bishop's jamboree

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'So with the chains of office hanging proudly round their necks,

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'they got back to work on the building.

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'Did the work carried out by Howard's nephew Daniel get their vote?'

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I think a woman would probably have been a bit more pernickety about the finish.

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But for a young man, for his first project, I think he did well.

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'So in the last few weeks they helped with the finishing touches, such as curtains and lampshades.

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'Has it cost them more being more hands-off than on?'

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We decided between £5,000 and £10,000.

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It's come in around £7,000 for the basic work.

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'They paid £65,000 at auction for the three flats,

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'spent £7,500 with costs and fees,

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'so that means a total outlay of just over £72,000.

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'Has that added up to a good investment? What do two local estate agents think?'

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The property is actually very nice.

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The purchaser has done a little bit of work to it.

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A bit of titivation, they've painted, put new carpets in, spent a bit of money on the kitchens,

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which is good. So they've done a respectable job of the renovation.

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Compact. It's got everything that somebody would need,

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bedroom, sitting room, kitchen, bathroom.

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It ticks all the boxes as far as that's concerned.

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'This purchase was aimed at the rental market.

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'But having invested just over £72,000, how much could it be worth if sold?'

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Investment would be anywhere between £100,000 and £110,000 for this property.

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In the current market, I would expect the properties to achieve

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in the region of £90,000 to £100,000.

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That's brilliant. Brilliant.

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For a total investment of about £72,000, that's not a bad deal.

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'That's potentially a pre-tax profit of around £30,000.

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'So could it fare just as well as a rental?'

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Individually, these properties should rent for anywhere between £55 and £75 a week,

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which is anywhere between £250 and £300 per calendar month.

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In the current rental market,

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I'd expect to achieve in the region of £70 to £75 per week, per flat,

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in the order of £275 per calendar month.

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-That's very good.

-Very good, yeah.

-Good return.

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'Even a £275 monthly rental

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'would bring in a total annual income for the three flats of £9,900.

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'On an overall investment of around £72,000, that would mean a yield of nearly 14 percent.

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'That's slightly above what Howard was aiming for. Does that make him keen to do another property?'

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I certainly would. Especially now that I've got my nephew Daniel involved.

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He's very keen to start up a family business in investment properties like this.

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Well, we'll be back with more stories from the world of property for you next time,

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some successful, some less so, but always jolly interesting to watch.

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-See you then for more Homes Under The Hammer.

-See you then, goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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