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Martin and I are both mad about property.

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It doesn't matter how much you know,

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there is always something new to learn.

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Yes, every property is different.

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And of course, let's not forget the people who buy them.

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They're all different, too.

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Lucy, me, you...

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The town of Burton-upon-Trent in Staffordshire

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is probably best-known for its brewing heritage.

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In its heyday, there were around 12 breweries here

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producing, between them, over a quarter

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of the total amount of beer brewed in Britain.

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# And I want to thank you

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# For giving me the best day of my life... #

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Well, a couple of miles from the centre of Burton,

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in the popular suburb of Winshill, is the property I'm here to see.

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£56,000 plus was the guide price for a classic two-bedroomed mid-terrace.

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On a fairly busy road. That's not ideal.

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And how about that for a front step?

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Wow!

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So, I guess the obvious question is,

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will the house be a step up the property ladder?

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Well, maybe.

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In through the door, up the step and into your living room. Nice size.

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It doesn't smell damp,

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it doesn't seem to be in too bad condition.

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Door there, down to the cellar.

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That's a nice, additional bonus.

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And then through into your rear living room area.

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Slight disappointment, the kitchen.

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Originally it would have been here -

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somebody's built some kind of extension at some point,

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it's in the back there.

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So, as starting points go? Not bad.

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# Step it up, step it up, it's all right... #

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Apart from that enormous front step, there's nothing too problematic here.

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For me, a good modernisation is all it would take to sort this out.

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Well, upstairs, and a fairly classic layout.

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A little landing at the top of the stairs.

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And then one bedroom one way and one bedroom the other.

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Both half-decent sized, which is good.

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But there's one thing we haven't found yet.

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And that's the bathroom.

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And I'm afraid, the bad news is that it's accessed through this bedroom.

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If you're looking for the property to appeal

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to as many people as possible,

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I'm afraid a bathroom that only has access through a bedroom is a no-no,

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especially if you're looking to rent the property.

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In this case, though, creating a corridor

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between the landing and the bathroom is an easy fix.

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Just remember to account for the cost in your budget.

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Well, at the back of the property, this little yard area.

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Quite a nice... You've got an outdoor loo. And then the garden.

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However, all is not what it seems.

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Because you think, wow, what an amazing garden!

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However, it's shared with the next-door neighbour.

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Basically, it's split down the middle here, on this path.

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So, I guess you're going to have to get on well with your neighbours

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and hope, like it is in this instance,

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that whoever is your neighbour, looks after their side -

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in this case, it's absolutely beautiful. But it's a nice space.

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And an added bonus,

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it looks like we've even got a friendly pet tortoise.

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# Any time you choose Kick off your shoes

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# Rest your weary eyes and catch up with the news

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# A favourite book will be the perfect company, so relax... #

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Will everyone appreciate it as much as this local resident?

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It's a little rude to give someone's age away,

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but this chap is 52 years old.

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So that makes me an old-age mentioner!

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Sorry. Anyway, a local auctioneer hared along to tell us more.

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I would say, once renovated,

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this property would achieve somewhere in the region of £85,000.

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And if I were looking to offer this property to the rental market,

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then I would imagine a fair rent would be

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somewhere in the region of £475 per calendar month.

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Well, a really nice house in a popular area.

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Yes, a bit of noise from the road out the front,

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but apart from that, a great one to go for.

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Let's see who agreed when it went under the hammer.

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A two-bedroomed terraced house, good potential to it.

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How much shall I say for it today, ladies and gentlemen? 54? Thank you.

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£54,000, I have, on the right-hand side.

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55. 55.

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56. 57.

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58.

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59.

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60,000.

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61.

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62?

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61,000, in front of me.

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I'll take 500, if it'll help you.

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It's in the market. It's going to get sold.

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61,500 somewhere else?

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At £61,000, then. It's going to go for the first time, at 61.

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For the second time, at 61. Third opportunity.

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Anybody? Any higher bid?

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Sold at 61,000.

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The successful bid of £61,000

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came from local pair Sue and her partner Andy.

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Sue already has a property portfolio.

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So, no doubt, she found this terrace

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after scouring through auction catalogue after auction catalogue.

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Well, not exactly.

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-Andy, Sue, great to meet you both.

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

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-Congratulations.

-Thank you very much.

-Yeah.

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Tell me why you wanted to buy this place.

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-I live just up the road and I do this, actually, for a living.

-Right.

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It started as a hobby.

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But I came to take my granddaughter to school

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and I saw the sign outside, so I thought, "Oh, got to have a look."

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And is it normally buy them and sell them on?

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No, I buy everything and rent it.

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But this is a new portfolio-type thing.

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I'm buying this to renovate to a good standard and sell on.

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# That's what I go to school for... #

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Well, if Sue makes a healthy profit,

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she won't complain about the school run again.

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It goes to show that experienced developers

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are always looking for the next potential opportunity.

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Sue has been doing this for 25 years,

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along with a significant amount of charity work.

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But she was originally a fashion model.

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-Tell me what you're going to do to it, then.

-From top to bottom,

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it's going to have to have the roof checked.

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We want lagging in the roof.

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We always start at the top and work our way down.

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Brand-new bathroom.

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Bedrooms all sorted out.

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-But we're putting a passageway in the second bedroom.

-Ah...

-Yes.

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So, we're just going to put a stud wall, partition it off,

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and the bedroom will still be sized for a double bed.

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Out the back, you've got this quite interesting garden

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that's split down the middle with the neighbour.

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It's lovely. These are the gardens round here,

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-this is what they're like.

-It's charming,

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and obviously the gentleman who owns next door

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obviously does a fantastic job of sorting his side.

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Yes. Yes. And he loves doing it.

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So, when I bought at the auction,

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I came and said that I was coming to renovate it

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and thanked him for doing the garden.

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And he's done it since, so...

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Has he? Oh, excellent. That's fantastic.

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And he's got a 52-year-old tortoise.

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-Thomas.

-Tommy.

-Thomas the tortoise.

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-So he'll be keeping an eye on things.

-Yes.

-Er, no doubt.

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The house IS an investment.

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But Sue and Andy sound quite fond of it

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and its helpful and charming neighbours.

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If the lovely garden, a smashing neighbour

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and reconfigured bathroom don't add value,

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I think a guard tortoise just might.

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So what's the budget for all the work?

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-I think about £10,000.

-Right.

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It usually works out about that with these type of terraced houses.

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I've got a good team that have worked with me a long time -

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decorators, plumbers, electricians.

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I don't touch things that are either going to blow me up or hurt!

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Fair enough.

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I'm glad to hear that Sue is clearly a switched-on developer.

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You can't do better than have a reliable team you know and trust,

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which means this should be pretty straightforward in her two-month timescale.

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So what do you think the most important lesson you've learned

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in your 25 years of doing this is?

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-Always read your legal pack.

-Yes.

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I've learned that from Homes Under The Hammer.

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Oh, good girl! Yes. Absolutely.

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Well, listen, congratulations. Good luck with it.

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-Thank you very much.

-We look forward to seeing how you get on.

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Well, this project should be water off a duck's back

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for property old-timers Sue and Andy.

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But there's only one person I'm interested to find out

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what THEY think of the renovation, and that's Tommy the tortoise.

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You can find out how it all goes later in the show.

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This is Deal, in Kent.

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Once a busy shipping port, it's now a quiet seaside town

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with a glorious stretch of beach and some lovely views.

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A mile from the beach is the lot I'm here to see.

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And it's this - a former St John's Ambulance headquarters,

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eight garages and a store.

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Now, I'm aware the main building hasn't been used for several years

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and, well, the whole site's seen better days.

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So what are we looking at?

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A building plot, of course,

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which had a guide price of 100,000 to 105,000.

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Let's see what we've got.

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Basically, we have an L-shaped site with two road frontages.

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One on the main street and one at the side.

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Fabulous.

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There are eight lock-up garages,

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which haven't done much locking up lately.

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And a large storeroom, with no door.

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And this tired, old hall, which used to be home to St John's Ambulance.

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# Doctor, doctor

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# Give me the news I got a bad case of loving you... #

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So, what have we got?

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Well, the planning permission

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is for a row of three three-bedroom terraces

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and one detached two-bedroom house.

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Now, the reason you have this slightly odd arrangement

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is the shape of the plot, which is a dogleg.

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So the terraces go along that side

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and the detached sneaks in along the back here.

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Now, the designs themselves are actually very nice.

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I love the layout downstairs.

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You've got a nice, big lounge,

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then a kitchen at the back with a dining area

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and I really like that.

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You've got a cupboard here, a cupboard there.

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Nice and practical, actually.

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Then upstairs, three good-sized bedrooms, a family bathroom

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and an en suite

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AND a walk-in wardrobe storage area.

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Love it!

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Whoever designed these, really thought about how families live.

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I'm impressed.

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# Congratulations

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# I'm impressed

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# All you had to do was beat the best... #

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The busy road to one side of the site could put potential buyers off,

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as could the small gardens in the plans.

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However, with the planning permission in place,

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I can't see anyone wanting to return the hall to its former glory.

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Whatever happens, it's likely to become residential.

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However, as with any development, it's all about the maths.

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Is there good potential profit if these plans were to be carried out?

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We've asked a local estate agent along,

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to give us his opinions on the plans.

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I think the plans that are approved are good for this site.

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They're good, interesting houses and will be appropriate for the location.

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The only other use for this site

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is some other form of residential, maybe flats,

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that would be best in this market.

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If you want to let, I think I'd put flats.

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If you want to sell, I think I would build houses.

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Now, that's intriguing.

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However, attempting to change the planning permission would cost time and money.

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So, how do the options compare financially?

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For the houses that are proposed here currently,

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they are going to have a value of about £185,000 to £190,000.

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Based on those top valuations,

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four houses here could have a total value of £760,000.

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Wow!

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If they were flats, they would be less -

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a one-bedroom flat would be about 100 to 110.

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And a two-bedroom flat would be about £110,000 to £120,000.

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And what would a flat here rent for?

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If flats were built here,

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they would let for £450 per calendar month for a one-bed

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and £500 to £550 per calendar month for a two-bed.

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This is a nice plot in a decent enough residential area

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with money to be made, if bought for the right price.

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Let's see what that was at the auction.

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It's the former St John's premises and garages,

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and it's got the planning for the redevelopment

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for the terrace of three and the detached house.

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So can I see £100,000 for it?

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£100,000. Where's my builders?

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£100,000 can I say?

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Give me 90, then. Start me at £90,000.

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90, I'm bid. 95 bid, I have.

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£100,000, I'm bid.

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105, now, if you like. At £100,000.

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105, right at the back, I've got.

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108.

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110, standing at the back.

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110, can I see?

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110.

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And 12.

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And 14. And 14.

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114.

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And 16.

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With some cagey bidding going on, we leave it there

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and return at £142,000.

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142. And four. And six.

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146. And eight. And 50.

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50. And two. And four.

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And six. And eight.

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158?

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At £156,000, I've got.

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158, anywhere else?

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If not, at £156,000, for the first time.

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156, for the second time.

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Third and final time, at £156,000.

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Well done, madam, you've stuck with it and you got it.

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Sticking with the bidding was Tracey and her builder Paul.

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That successful bid of £156,000

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smashed the guide price by over 50 grand.

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Tracey has been on the show before with her business partner Martin.

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Their property business currently has 21 properties,

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which they rent out.

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Tracey, we meet again. I think it was 2008 the last time we met.

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-That's right, in Dover.

-So have you been property developing ever since?

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Back in that time, we'd done a bit of renovation work.

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But, since then, we've been doing new-build properties.

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Building flats around Dover.

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The thing that took my eye about this plot

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is the planning that comes with it.

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You've got a really nice house at the back.

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A nice, big detached house.

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And three nice houses that sit in the front.

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Is that something, or was that something,

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that particularly appealed to you with this?

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We like the idea that it's got planning on it.

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But it wouldn't appeal to us to have that particular planning on it

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because we tend to specialise in building flats,

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because we don't sell our properties on,

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we deal with the rental market.

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And we find the rental return on flats

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is much better than it is on houses.

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So, you're not going to go with the plans that come with this site?

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No. We've already spoken to an architect

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and he's drafted plans with the potential of nine flats on the site.

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So, have you spoken to the planners?

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Have they, like, given you any indication

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whether or not they'll pass something like this?

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The architects had an initial chat with the person from the council

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and it's looking very hopeful that they will agree the new plans.

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And how much would it cost to build

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what you're looking to do on this site?

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Generally speaking, we estimate about 70,000 per unit.

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-OK.

-So, we've got two separate units, phase one and phase two.

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Phase one, of the five units, you'd be looking at about 350,000.

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And the second of the four units, that's about 280,000.

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Wow!

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Tracey certainly has a business head on her,

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but this project isn't without

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its little sentimental sting in the tail.

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I grew up in the north end of Deal.

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So I was fairly familiar with this end of Deal

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and it was only after I'd bought this place at the auction

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and I was telling my family about it

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that I found out that my parents had their wedding reception here

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back in 1968.

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That is amazing to think that, once upon a time

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they sat in here having a wedding reception

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and now you're going to knock it down! How do they feel about that?

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I did ask if they wanted to come

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and have one final look down, for memory, old time's sake,

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but they said it was pretty grotty back in 1968

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and it wouldn't have improved since then.

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And now here you are, you're about to improve it completely.

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I think the best thing we can do with this is knock it down.

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How long do think it's going to be before this development is finished?

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I would think it would be about 20 weeks until we got the plans through

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and we're in a position to proceed.

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And then, phase one I would think is about six months, 26 weeks,

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and similar or less for phase two.

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-Well, good luck.

-Thank you.

-It's going to be really exciting

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coming back and seeing this not being here

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and a lovely block of flats in its place.

0:17:440:17:46

Good luck with the project,

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-and hopefully, it won't be so long the next time I see you.

-No.

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Thanks very much. Thank you.

0:17:510:17:53

So, another block of flats for Tracey.

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Seems to be a winning formula.

0:17:570:17:58

It's such a shame these nice houses won't see the light of day,

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but I do hope they get the planning permission they want.

0:18:020:18:05

Certainly money in it.

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You can find out what happens later in the show.

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Still to come... In Maryport, Cumbria, I think I've spotted the problem.

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Urgh!

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That's not good.

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And over in Deal, Kent, best-laid plans have stalled in the erm...

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planning office.

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Back now to the town of Burton-upon-Trent in Staffordshire,

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where I earlier looked around this two-bedroom mid-terrace property

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that had a guide price of £56,000.

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A solid, traditional property in need of updating.

0:18:520:18:55

And it had one inconvenient element.

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And that's the bathroom.

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And I'm afraid, the bad news is that it's accessed through this bedroom.

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So not ideal at all.

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It certainly was a problem that needed fixing,

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and the person who was feeling flush enough to do it on auction day

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was Sue and her partner Andy.

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Five months later, we returned to see just how things had come along.

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The downstairs has been transformed, from dull and dated

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to modern and aspirational.

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The feature fireplaces in the two reception rooms

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give a great focal point.

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And the brand-new kitchen is unrecognisable from before.

0:20:000:20:04

Wow, this is a fantastic job and a really professional finish.

0:20:040:20:09

I can't wait to see what's been done upstairs.

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A lovely new bathroom suite

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sits at the end of a newly-constructed landing,

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made with space taken from the second bedroom,

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as Sue explains...

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This is the stud wall I built. I actually did build the wall.

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Some of the lads gave me a hand with the plasterboard,

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because that's very heavy.

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But I did all the framework.

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I think it's made it ideal.

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You couldn't walk through a bedroom to get into a bathroom.

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The bedroom's still a really good size

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and it's just made the whole upstairs flow through. I love it.

0:20:520:20:56

This is a much more practical layout that suits modern living,

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as does the bright and tasteful decor.

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I like the greys - still fairly neutral,

0:21:020:21:05

but getting away from magnolia makes a change.

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But, how has it been for Sue and Andy?

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Oh, and of course, pet dog Alfie.

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Well, we started at the top of the house.

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Bathroom totally stripped, a new suite put in.

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The whole house was rewired.

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All plaster off the walls.

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Went into the kitchen, removed the kitchen.

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Redid the plastering there.

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And very nice job.

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Good kitchen fitters, so...

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I'm pleased with the whole thing.

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It all came together.

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It certainly has.

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Not only have they done the interior but they also tidied up the back

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including their neighbour Des's side,

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who has very kindly continued to look after the garden,

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along with the now hibernating Thomas the tortoise.

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It hasn't all gone to plan, though - as Sue and Andy explain...

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All the electrics were the original electrics in the property when it was built, we think.

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So, the whole place had to be stripped.

0:22:050:22:08

So then it meant all the plaster...

0:22:080:22:11

and we didn't cut corners, it's been done to a high standard,

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plus we've got the internet cables all through.

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Every room has got a TV plug, TV aerial

0:22:190:22:24

and erm...all the DVD, anything you want

0:22:240:22:29

regarding electrics is all behind the fireplace.

0:22:290:22:32

Wow! That's impressive. OK, I like a gadget or two -

0:22:320:22:36

but Sue has certainly brought this property right up to date.

0:22:360:22:39

And she's only gone over her £10,000 budget by £600 -

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thanks mainly to Andy sourcing the best deals on the internet.

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What's more, their timeframe of two months has been stuck to,

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albeit somewhat delayed by holidays

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and problems with other properties they own.

0:22:540:22:56

So, with Sue and Andy keen to sell,

0:23:010:23:04

it will be interesting to see what two local experts

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think of the property.

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With a total outlay here of just under £72,000,

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what kind of figures are we talking?

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If this property were placed on the market for sale,

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I would expect it to achieve £85,000.

0:23:180:23:21

I think, if the clients decided to market this property for sale,

0:23:210:23:24

I would expect them to achieve at least £89,000.

0:23:240:23:28

Well, erm...

0:23:280:23:30

I think they're fair.

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But, to this standard, it wants to be at the top end, the 89.

0:23:330:23:37

I valued it at 89,950,

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and I've actually sold the property for 89,000.

0:23:400:23:44

Crikey! You kept that quiet, Sue.

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Selling it for £89,000 has left Sue

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with a pre-tax profit of just over 17,000,

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making this project a big success.

0:23:530:23:56

And she isn't resting on her laurels one little bit.

0:23:560:23:59

I keep saying I'm not going to buy any more, but it's like a drug,

0:24:020:24:05

you do. You can't help yourself.

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Today, I'm in Maryport,

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the southernmost coastal town on the Solway Firth in Cumbria.

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Now, for many years, this place was called Ellenfoot,

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until a developer in Georgian times by the name of Humphrey Senhouse

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decided to redevelop it and name it in honour of his wife,

0:24:250:24:30

Gladys.

0:24:300:24:31

I'm kidding.

0:24:320:24:34

Mary.

0:24:340:24:35

# And the wind, it cries Mary... #

0:24:370:24:42

Well, a few minutes' walk from the town centre and the harbour

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is the property I'm here to see.

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Three-bedroomed terrace,

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guide price £35,000-plus...

0:24:530:24:56

So, not a lot of money -

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but does it have an interior that reflects that price?

0:25:020:25:06

Well, nice, high ceilings as you walk through the door.

0:25:060:25:08

Bit of an odd layout. Just one, big room down here

0:25:080:25:12

which obviously makes this your living room and sort of kitchen area.

0:25:120:25:15

Work to be done but I do quite like the layout here

0:25:150:25:20

and er... Yeah, onwards and upwards.

0:25:200:25:23

Urgh!

0:25:260:25:28

That's not good.

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Neither's this.

0:25:340:25:36

Sort of on this little landing halfway up the stairs,

0:25:360:25:38

you've got this door

0:25:380:25:40

which leads out into this... well, covered passageway,

0:25:400:25:44

which leads to another front door.

0:25:440:25:46

This house is a listed building, so you have to think about that

0:25:460:25:50

when it comes to deciding what you want to do with it.

0:25:500:25:53

It's described in the catalogue as a three-storey house.

0:25:530:25:58

But with this half-landing

0:25:580:26:00

and this extra door that leads to it, it certainly is quirky.

0:26:000:26:03

Let's hope it's not quite as complicated up here.

0:26:050:26:08

Erm, what have we got? Bathroom there.

0:26:080:26:11

Stairs up to the second floor where the second bedroom is

0:26:110:26:15

and then through into your first bedroom here.

0:26:150:26:18

And, you know, what's the opposite of open plan?

0:26:180:26:22

Because downstairs is open plan

0:26:220:26:23

and up here is absolutely the opposite,

0:26:230:26:26

it's very cramped, it's all corridors and stairs and it doesn't work.

0:26:260:26:31

And glancing around, there's not an easy solution.

0:26:310:26:35

So, some work to be done inside here.

0:26:350:26:37

Going from the first floor with its bathroom and front bedroom,

0:26:370:26:42

ever upwards to the second floor, you find two further bedrooms,

0:26:420:26:46

each of reasonable size.

0:26:460:26:47

We asked a local property expert

0:26:500:26:51

for their opinion on this perplexing property.

0:26:510:26:54

What could this house rent for if done up to a good standard?

0:26:540:26:59

We could achieve somewhere in the region of £350 per calendar month.

0:26:590:27:02

Given a guide price of 35,000,

0:27:020:27:05

after refurbishment,

0:27:050:27:06

what sort of sale price would you advise on the open market?

0:27:060:27:10

If the property was renovated,

0:27:100:27:12

depending on the standard of the finish,

0:27:120:27:14

it could achieve anywhere between £75,000 and £80,000.

0:27:140:27:18

Well, a nice enough property, but a lot of work to be done on this one

0:27:190:27:22

so not a weekend refurbishment.

0:27:220:27:25

Let's see who decided to take on the challenge

0:27:250:27:27

when it went under the hammer.

0:27:270:27:29

Three-storey four-bedroom terraced house

0:27:290:27:31

situated in a popular area of the town.

0:27:310:27:34

The property is a listed building.

0:27:340:27:36

35? 30?

0:27:360:27:37

I need a bid.

0:27:370:27:38

I can't sell it without one.

0:27:380:27:40

At 30,000.

0:27:400:27:42

30, I'm in.

0:27:420:27:44

At 30,000.

0:27:440:27:45

Despite a packed auction house,

0:27:450:27:47

it looked like the guide price was unobtainable.

0:27:470:27:49

But then the bids started to move a little.

0:27:490:27:52

At £30,000, then.

0:27:520:27:54

31. 32.

0:27:540:27:56

33. 34.

0:27:560:27:57

35. No?

0:27:570:27:59

With you at 34.

0:27:590:28:01

Half. 35.

0:28:010:28:03

35. Yeah, I've got half here. At 35, with you.

0:28:030:28:06

Half? No.

0:28:060:28:08

Back with you, at 35.

0:28:080:28:09

At £35,000 on my left seated.

0:28:090:28:13

First time. Second time.

0:28:130:28:15

Third time at £35,000, then.

0:28:150:28:17

-GAVEL BANGS

-Well done, sir.

0:28:170:28:19

The successful bid of £35,000 was made by Dave.

0:28:200:28:24

I met up with him and his business partner Kevin,

0:28:240:28:27

leading the way here,

0:28:270:28:29

back at the property.

0:28:290:28:30

-Dave, Kevin, good to meet you both. Congratulations.

-Thank you.

0:28:320:28:35

Tell me why you wanted to buy this property.

0:28:350:28:37

-God knows!

-That's a good start. Yeah.

0:28:370:28:40

Well, we're new into the renovation part of our careers now,

0:28:420:28:46

we've done the house builds, we've done all that to do with that.

0:28:460:28:50

We now want to go forward and buy properties to do up and to rent.

0:28:500:28:54

Right, OK. And what's the relationship between you two?

0:28:540:28:57

Kev is the builder of the business.

0:28:570:28:59

So does, in effect, Kevin work for you?

0:28:590:29:02

-Kevin actually works for my drainage business, yes.

-Ah.

0:29:020:29:06

So why this particular house, then?

0:29:060:29:09

We arrived at our first auction a month ago, just gone,

0:29:090:29:13

and the house we wanted was number five on the list.

0:29:130:29:17

And the money that it went for was absolutely above our budget.

0:29:170:29:22

Right.

0:29:220:29:23

We have a certain budget and the next one along was this one,

0:29:230:29:27

which was within our budget.

0:29:270:29:29

-Right, so had you seen it beforehand?

-No.

-No.

0:29:290:29:31

Oh...!

0:29:310:29:33

-Had you read the legal pack?

-No.

0:29:330:29:36

Oh...!

0:29:360:29:37

So you hadn't seen it, hadn't read the legal pack.

0:29:370:29:40

-That's, kind of, a little bit on the...

-Back to front?

0:29:400:29:43

-Well, kind of. Bit dangerous.

-Absolutely. But confidence, you see?

0:29:430:29:46

Foolhardy, a bit, sort of?

0:29:460:29:47

-Nothing to worry about, is there?

-Well, possibly.

0:29:470:29:49

-You don't know until you've read the legal pack.

-Yeah.

0:29:490:29:52

-No, it's all been dealt with.

-Oh, now - after you've bought it.

0:29:520:29:54

Oh, yes. Well, I'm finalising now, so there's nothing scary amongst it.

0:29:540:29:59

Could have been, though.

0:29:590:30:00

Well... Confidence.

0:30:000:30:02

Next time, we WILL read the legal pack.

0:30:020:30:04

But this was our first and we're not upset about the purchase at all.

0:30:040:30:09

So, what are the plans for it, then?

0:30:090:30:10

-What are you going to do to it?

-Top to bottom,

0:30:100:30:14

-take all the chimney breasts out, top to bottom.

-Oh, are you?

-Yeah.

0:30:140:30:16

Take everything apart.

0:30:160:30:18

And the walls, we'll re-skim where necessary.

0:30:180:30:20

New floorboards. New heating system.

0:30:200:30:22

Rewire.

0:30:220:30:24

It's a kind of interesting layout, as well, isn't it?

0:30:240:30:27

Sort of higgledy-piggledy, all over the place.

0:30:270:30:29

What are you going to do to sort of change that?

0:30:290:30:31

Well, the worst part for us, we think, is the kitchen area here

0:30:310:30:35

because, you know,

0:30:350:30:37

with the stairs coming up from behind that wall there

0:30:370:30:39

it's going to take a little bit of erm...

0:30:390:30:42

imagination.

0:30:420:30:43

And there's no back yard to this property here.

0:30:430:30:46

But the passage is there, which is a back yard.

0:30:460:30:50

So we can do things with that to make light work of the kitchen.

0:30:500:30:54

-Right.

-Put white goods in there, that sort of thing.

-Right.

0:30:540:30:57

-So is the idea, then, to do it up and sell it on or to rent it out?

-Rent out.

-Rent out.

0:30:570:31:01

So, what's the budget?

0:31:010:31:03

We have a budget of up to 12 grand.

0:31:030:31:06

With the purchase price on top of that

0:31:060:31:09

we think we can turn this round into a nice return,

0:31:090:31:13

-market appraisal-wise.

-Right.

0:31:130:31:15

What sort of rents do you think you might get?

0:31:150:31:19

In the area, they're going for roughly £450 to £500.

0:31:190:31:23

-Yeah, in this area.

-Right.

0:31:230:31:25

It does worry me that Dave and Kevin

0:31:250:31:27

have gone into this without having a chance to weigh it all up.

0:31:270:31:30

Their estimate of the rental

0:31:300:31:32

is much higher than the agents who came to see it.

0:31:320:31:34

Well, it remains to be seen who was right.

0:31:340:31:36

They've set themselves a 12-week timescale,

0:31:400:31:42

and Dave's wife Linda will be looking after the finances,

0:31:420:31:45

so hopefully she'll make those figures add up.

0:31:450:31:48

-And were you happy with what you paid for this one?

-Yeah. Very much so, yeah.

0:31:480:31:52

-Within the budget and all?

-Although I bought it blind.

-Yeah, I know.

0:31:520:31:56

Tut-tut.

0:31:560:31:57

-Well, listen, congratulations.

-Thank you.

-Good luck.

0:31:570:32:00

-Yeah, thank you.

-And look forward to seeing how you get on.

0:32:000:32:02

-Nice one. Thank you.

-Nice to meet you both.

0:32:020:32:05

So, a new joint venture for David and Kevin.

0:32:060:32:10

But they broke all the rules buying this,

0:32:100:32:13

their first auction property -

0:32:130:32:14

not reading the legal pack, tut-tut-tut,

0:32:140:32:16

not visiting the property beforehand... More tuts.

0:32:160:32:20

HE BREATHES DEEPLY IN AND OUT

0:32:200:32:21

Hopefully...

0:32:210:32:23

..the renovation will go a bit more, how shall we say, to plan. Yes.

0:32:240:32:30

You can find out how they get on later in the show.

0:32:300:32:32

It's time to go back to Deal in Kent,

0:32:390:32:42

where part-time property developer Tracey

0:32:420:32:44

and her business partner Martin

0:32:440:32:46

paid 156,000 for this L-shaped plot of land,

0:32:460:32:49

which came with planning permission for four houses.

0:32:490:32:53

Since Tracey and Martin only build and rent out flats,

0:32:560:33:00

the existing plans became the first casualty

0:33:000:33:03

of this former St John's Ambulance headquarters development.

0:33:030:33:07

We've already spoken to an architect

0:33:070:33:09

and he's drafted plans with the potential of nine flats on the site.

0:33:090:33:14

Tracey and Martin first submitted their plans in November 2013.

0:33:140:33:19

And one year later, it's not been such a mad dash after all.

0:33:190:33:23

MUSIC: THEME FROM STEPTOE AND SON

0:33:240:33:26

We met up with them back at the site

0:33:270:33:30

to find out how far their plans had progressed.

0:33:300:33:33

Well, the original purchase was in the summer of last year,

0:33:340:33:37

with completion a month later, July.

0:33:370:33:40

After that, we instructed an architect

0:33:400:33:42

and he had meetings with the local planning authority.

0:33:420:33:46

We moved on from there with him preparing plans

0:33:460:33:49

and submitting them in December.

0:33:490:33:51

We understood that process was going to be about six weeks.

0:33:510:33:54

So we hoped to have planning by the end of January of 2014.

0:33:540:33:58

But it wasn't, in fact, till October 2014

0:33:590:34:03

that planning was finally granted to us.

0:34:030:34:08

Tracey and Martin had originally planned for nine flats on the site.

0:34:100:34:14

But this was increased by one at the suggestion of their architect.

0:34:140:34:18

Back at the office,

0:34:180:34:20

Tracey took us through the new plans in more detail.

0:34:200:34:23

# Everybody's gotta have plans

0:34:240:34:29

# She said Everybody's gotta have plans... #

0:34:290:34:33

So looking at the plans now,

0:34:330:34:35

we've got the driveway through the front of the property,

0:34:350:34:39

under the archway, to the rear of the property.

0:34:390:34:42

On the ground floor, we've got three two-bedroom flats.

0:34:420:34:45

When we move up to the first floor,

0:34:450:34:48

we've got three two-bedroom flats and a one-bedroomed flat.

0:34:480:34:52

And moving to the second floor, which is effectively the loft area,

0:34:520:34:56

there's a large three-bedroom flat

0:34:560:34:59

with one very large bedroom with an en suite

0:34:590:35:03

and two separate double bedrooms with a shared bathroom.

0:35:030:35:06

All of the property has got lounge-diners as an open space,

0:35:060:35:12

and separately

0:35:120:35:14

there's a stand-alone two-floor two-bedroom unit,

0:35:140:35:17

which has got separate parking.

0:35:170:35:20

It all looks pretty impressive.

0:35:220:35:24

But their timescale for completion has, obviously, taken a hit.

0:35:240:35:29

Has this delay had an impact on their budget of 630,000?

0:35:290:35:34

Fortunately in the last year we've been in a rising market,

0:35:360:35:41

so the properties will be worth more when they're actually built.

0:35:410:35:44

Tracey and Martin know this business,

0:35:460:35:48

and more importantly, this area, like the back of their hands.

0:35:480:35:52

Seems like a good point to bring in some impartial opinion

0:35:540:35:58

from two local estate agents.

0:35:580:36:00

Firstly, what price could these flats achieve

0:36:010:36:04

on the current property market?

0:36:040:36:07

Sales values here are going to be

0:36:070:36:12

between 100,000 and 135,000

0:36:120:36:14

in the range of one bedroom through to three bedrooms,

0:36:140:36:16

with probably the two-beds coming in at about £120,000.

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I would suggest that the one-beds would be marketed around 100,000,

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the two-beds around the sort of 120,000, 125,000 price banding

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and then the three, around the sort of 135,000, 140,000 level,

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depending on spec and how it's finished.

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Taking those top-end prices,

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the grand total comes to £1.24 million,

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minus the purchase price of 156,000,

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with an estimated spend of £700,000 including the extra flat.

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That would leave Tracey and Martin

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with a healthy profit of 384,000 before taxes and fees.

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Fantastic. Better than I thought.

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-Slightly higher figures than we we're working to.

-Mm.

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But as fantastic as those figures are,

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these two Kent developers aren't changing their game plan.

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We find that the financial advantage is in keeping the flats

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over a period of time.

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We are looking to build and keep flats over 10, 20 years.

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Time to return to the town of Ellenfoot in Cumbria.

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# That's not my name

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# That's not my name

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# That's not my name

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# That's not my name... #

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OK, OK -

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the name it's been known by since Georgian times, Maryport in Cumbria.

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We were here to see a three-bed three-floored terraced house

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with a guide price of £35,000-plus,

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and...well, a few problems to go with it.

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Urgh!

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That's not good.

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It was bought for the guide price of £35,000 by Dave.

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He was going to develop it with business partner Kevin.

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Could the boys dream up a profitable property,

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or is that the stuff of fantasy?

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Four months later, we've returned to find out.

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That bathroom's been totally redeveloped, and it's looking great.

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And while there's still work to be done on the rest of the house,

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the walls and ceilings have all been re-plastered

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so that it's just about ready to decorate.

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They've even found a use for the mezzanine passageway,

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putting in a WC to make a ground-floor toilet.

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As Kevin was on another job,

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we caught up with Dave and his wife Linda,

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to hear all about it.

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It's been four months almost to the day since we started the project.

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We've got about another four weeks to go.

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The top two rooms are both bedrooms.

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They just needed squaring up and stripping back and rebuilding, basically.

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Floorboards were replaced where necessary.

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The middle floor, the bathroom,

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that was a total, total disaster, that - all the floors came out of there,

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joists were replaced where necessary.

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The whole place has been rewired, replumbed.

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And then we're on the sitting room, which is the last room to do.

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So, that'll be happening in the next few weeks,

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we'll be into that and squaring that away.

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So, with a combined sitting room and kitchen the last on their list,

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they're getting there.

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Hang on, though - if the kitchen isn't finished yet,

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where are we interviewing them?

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Let's let Dave explain.

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Within a few days we decided to take away

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the chimney in the sitting room,

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to give a bit more width to the room.

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And we dropped the chimney onto the floor upstairs,

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cleared all the rubble away,

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and then we found a hole in the floor where the hearth was.

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And my grandson was here that day and we put a ladder down

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and dropped him into the hole,

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and he shone his torch around off his phone.

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And it became quite clear that we have to use this room.

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So, where's the kitchen?

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Yep - it's in the cellar they didn't even know existed.

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And moving it down there really seems to have solved a problem.

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The original room, which had got a lounge and a kitchen,

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we were struggling to get it to look anything.

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So to find a cellar, it was brilliant.

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I came down when they'd made access into it.

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It was very dark, I had a torch.

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It was an earth floor, and I thought,

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hmm, it's got to be very light in here.

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So, the vision was to have a light floor, light walls

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and I wanted a white kitchen, but it was too white.

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So, we put the floor down

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and then carried on with the rest of the kitchen equipment.

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Erm...

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And, really, I'm so pleased with it.

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It does look great. And, OK, it does mean another set of stairs,

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but on the other hand it means more room for the living area.

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But, discovering and renovating a secret new room

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would have had an effect on the budget.

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So, how HAVE they got on?

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The original budget we estimated between 12,000 and 15,000.

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That's now gone to 20,000.

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If we come in with 20,000 spent, then we're doing OK.

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Dave bought the house for its guide price of 35,000,

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and although his budget has gone up to 20,000,

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the property now has an additional room.

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His total spend is now 55,000.

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We've asked along two local property experts to get their opinion.

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How much could he expect were he to sell the property?

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We would estimate we could market the property for around £82,000.

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Done up to a good standard, I feel in the current market

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this property would achieve a sale value

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in the region of about £85,000.

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That would be a profit of up to £30,000,

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minus the usual taxes and expenses.

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Not bad for five months' work.

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And were the property to be rented...?

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We would expect that we could achieve around £400 per calendar month.

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In the region of £400-£425 per calendar month.

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-Oh, that's good.

-That's all right.

-Yeah. Yeah.

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I thought about 360, 380. So that's not bad.

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Yeah - well, that's... That's fine.

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This would give Dave a yield of just over 9%.

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Not bad, considering they're keeping the property as an investment

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and renting it out.

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So, what's next?

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Look for another one.

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No, not quite yet. I have to have two months off now.

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And then I'm allowed to start looking for another one.

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But, the next one, he will definitely look at before he buys it.

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I don't want the shock again that I had when I came in here.

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Yeah, but what a result.

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Well, that's all we've got time for

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but join us next time for more of the ups and downs...

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-Hopefully not too many downs.

-Well, yes!

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..of property developing here on Homes Under The Hammer.

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-We'll see you then.

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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