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Yeah, it's so crazy right now... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
The music on Strictly's so important because it's the heart of the dance. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:43 | |
With no music, with a good song, there won't be any good performance. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
At the start of each series we talk to all the dancers | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and ask them to send in a list of music they'd like to use. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Each of the dance styles we use on Strictly Come Dancing | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
have their own tempo, their own characteristics | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
and it's my job, with the dancers, to decide on a piece of music | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
which will give them the best opportunity to do the best dance they possibly can. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
It's not necessarily possible for us to use each of the dancers' first choices. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
Sometimes the piece of music has been used before. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
If you take a track like Just Dance by Lady GaGa, it's a good tempo for a cha-cha-cha. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
A lot of the dancers requested it this year. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
But because that music is so electronic in its composition | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
we just don't think that it would sound great with our live band. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
It wouldn't be using our band to their maximum. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Once we've decided on a piece of music with the dancer, I then speak | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
to my music editor, Mark, and say, "I'd like a one minute 30 cut." | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
Ben Skilbeck will send me a track which will be three or four minutes long. I will take that track, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
edit it down to a 90-second format, which will be an introduction, verse, chorus, ending, usually. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:56 | |
Maybe a guitar solo to make it more interesting. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
# Holiday, holiday. # | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
It can take two minutes or it can take two hours. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
I will bounce this down and e-mail it back to the guys | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
and they will tell me if it's any good. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Ben will then go back to the dancers. They'll go, "I don't like that. The chorus is in the wrong place. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
"It's the wrong tempo." | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
If the tempo's not right, I have to speed it up or slow it down. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
It goes backwards and forwards till everyone's happy. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
We get the music on the Saturday night after the live show. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Then on the Sunday, as soon as I wake up, I have my little espresso | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
and then start playing the music over and over again, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
so I can get the feel of the song. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
This is the title of the song, Holiday, and this is the "rev3". | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
That means the song has been cut already three times. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
So fingers crossed I'm going to like it. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
MUSIC: "Holiday" by Madonna | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
My name's Dave Arch and I'm the music director of Strictly Come Dancing. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I have to deliver all the music to be played by the band | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and I'm sort of responsible for it sounding good. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
I guess! | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
# Holiday... # | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
After I get the edits, I need to listen to all of those tracks analytically | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
and write down every single note of them for the band to play. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
# It would be, it would so nice... # | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
That could take between four to five hours per track. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I never change the music during the week. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
What I do sometimes, I change the ending. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
A different ending will fit better with my celebrity partner. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
The best thing about my job is Saturday | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
when we get to the studio and the band starts playing all this music. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
The atmosphere in the studio is electric. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
That's when it really comes home to everybody that, yeah, show day. Time to perform. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
The band first see the music at band call, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
which is typically about lunchtime on the Saturday. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
We have a little sound check, where we might play a couple of the harder things. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
Then we move on to a band call, where we're playing for the dancers. We do each track twice. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
Sometimes we get in there, they might be a couple percent slower | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
or a little bit faster. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
We go through it roughly around three times. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
By the end of it, it's spot on. We really enjoy it. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Here we go. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
Will you lot shut up? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Even though the band plays the track at exactly the same tempo that the couple has been practising to, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
sometimes when they get to the studio, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
sometimes they hear things differently. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
They ask to speed things up, slow things down. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
We can always do that. It's the great thing with having a live band on this show. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Then we have a dress run. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Then we're live on air. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
So it's normally the fourth time that we play. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
That is pretty hairy. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
Live television is not easy. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Once the music's ready for the live show, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
once we've gone through band call, there's nothing I can do about it. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
It's now up to the dancers to do their best stuff. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
The band will do what they do and play it live. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
It's samba time. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
# Celebrate, it would be so nice. # | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
As a creative force, Soulwax are impossible to pigeonhole. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
They play live with their band of the same name, are two of the world's genuine superstar DJs, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
and their self-produced side project 2 many DJs | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
was a mash-up album that blew dance culture apart. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
When the brothers are not on stage, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
they are two of the most sought-after remix producers on the planet. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
Their new album brings together a collection of their best remix work | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and includes underground classics, alongside tracks from Kylie and Robbie Williams. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
So what do you need to hear in a track to make you go, "Yeah, OK"? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
There's no real system. If the track is not that good, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
it makes it sometimes easier because you can take a little part that you like and just use that. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
Most of the remixes we do, we just take a little bit and we completely redo it. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
Have you turned remixes down simply because you didn't like the artist? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
-Yeah. -Really? -Yeah, but we tell them we don't have time. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
So right now there are loads of artists going, "Wait a minute, they told us that." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
-It's not you. -There are also a lot that we like that we turn down because we didn't have the time. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
Do you listen to music in a way that's different to other people? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
-No. -You don't listen to music and de-construct it? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
I don't know, I listen... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
That's like asking, "How do you look at things?" I don't know. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
A Soulwax club re-working of your track provides a kudos, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
a coolness by association that artists are literally queuing up for. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Given the guys' reputation, I was dying to have a look at where and how they work. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
On first impressions, it's not quite where you'd expect | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
two of the world's best producers to base themselves. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Oh, my gosh, this is the lab! | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
It's like a 1970s science fiction film. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
The place is crammed full of vintage gear. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Most of it you'd be more likely to find in a skip, never mind a working studio. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
One of the many tracks they remixed here was by indie rockers The Gossip. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
When you break down a track like Standing In the Way Of Control by The Gossip, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
how many parts do they send you? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-How many does that mean? -30 tracks? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Yeah. Something that takes a lot of tracks is drums. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
There's a kick drum, snare drum, overhead mics. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Ambient mics. There's a lot of tracks for drums, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
but internally we bounce it down to two tracks. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
-We have two tracks for drums. -Do you think anybody is still following this? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
The guys begin work by stripping songs back to their basic recorded elements, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
and then set about reinventing the track. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
So by this point, these sets are building up | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
to the point where they are going to replace the rest of the guitars and base. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
At some point, it will just be these kind of machines. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
That added with the drums would give you... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Sorry. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
That's the chorus. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Yeah. Then the guitars, bass, and... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:55 | |
So this is the whole thing together. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
What amazed me about their method of working | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
is that they use 30 or 40-year-old analogue gear alongside state-of-the-art digital equipment. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
This mix of the old and new is crucial to how the brothers work, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
providing edge to the process that gives each track a unique quality. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
Those sounds would be almost impossible to replicate if they only used digital devices. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
The thing with this desk also is, and I think that's one of the cool things... | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Most mixing desks now are automated, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
which means that any movement you do now, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
it remembers it. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
You do something, like you're mixing the levels and everything, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
then you push a button and it will go back to where you were. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
With this desk, it's old school. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
It's a really, really old one. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
So the slightest touch sometimes changes the whole sound. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
It means that you have to be prepared. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
We have to prepare ourselves because the minute we put it on there, that's it. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
We can't go back to it. Like the version you had of The Gossip, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
if someone asked us to redo it - make the same remix - it would take us weeks. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:05 | |
It's a really delicate process. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
It's kind of like conducting something. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
You really have to prepare it. It's nice, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
cos you know once you do it, it's always going to be hard to do it a second time. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Spending time with Soulwax, what hits you is the level | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
of real musicianship that they bring to the remix process. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
People always think about electronic dance music, electronica, as being always modern thinking. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:32 | |
All these big companies are coming up with the latest sound modules. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
You guys, this is all retro. How old is this machine? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
-Mid-'70s. -So what does this give you? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
What does this give you that a 21st-century digital sound module can't give you? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
That's what makes it interesting for us. See, for example, with this. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
You know how this goes... | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
It's not perfect. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
It's kind of... The de-tuning is what makes it interesting. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
I think it's also what the human ear picks up. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Something that doesn't sound right. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
-OK. -A lot of electronic music is just made with presets like a machine. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
You just have 99 presets, and you just go through them. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
"Yeah, that sounds right to me." | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
That, to us, is boring. Cos it... You're not really doing anything. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
You find that you spend a lot more time going through all those presets than actually making... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:32 | |
If you have limited possibilities, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
you make your own sounds. It's a lot more interesting. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
-This is kind of sadomasochism doing this? -Yeah. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
The motto of Soulwax is, "Why do it the easy way?" | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
It just doesn't seem to work for us. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Venezuela is an unlikely setting for a musical revolution. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Despite having some of the largest oil reserves in the world, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
60% of its population lives in poverty. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Since 1975, an ambitious scheme, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
known simply as El Sistema - The System, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
has been taking children from all over the country and putting instruments in their hands. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
But it's not just about music. It's unashamed social engineering - | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
keeping kids off the streets and away from drugs and gangs. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
The Simon Bolivar is an orchestra like no other. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Apart from anything else, there are 200 players - twice as many as in the average orchestra. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
The musicians have all grown up together | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and they now work and tour internationally. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
They're at the pinnacle of the Venezuelan system, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
which comprises 150 youth orchestras and 70 children's orchestras. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
270,000 kids in all. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
The man who started El Sistema 33 years ago | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
is Jose Antonio Abreu, and he's still in charge today. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Abreu began with just 11 youngsters, rehearsing in an underground car park. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
Now 15,000 teachers train over a quarter of a million children. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
What made you start The Sistema in 1975? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
TRANSLATION: I realised one of the most efficient ways | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
to fight poverty was to introduce excluded children | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
and young people to a musical education. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Give them a way into music that they didn't have before. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
And turn their families and communities into our allies. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
Jhoanna Sierralta started learning the viola at the age of 13. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
Now, at 23, she leads the viola section. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
TRANSLATION: The goal for all young musicians in Venezuela | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
is to play with the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
what used to be the National Children's Orchestra. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
TRANSLATION: All the others in the orchestra with me moved to Caracas | 0:14:37 | 0:14:43 | |
so they could train to join the Simon Bolivar Orchestra. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Back then there were 100 of us, now there are nearly 200. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
The Sistema and its musicians don't exist in isolation. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
Following Abreu's original vision, music is fully integrated into the life of the country. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:03 | |
TRANSLATION: The Sistema doesn't just produce musicians, people to play in orchestras. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
It also trains us as people, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
as human beings who are going to teach younger kids, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
not just how to play an instrument, but about friendship and sharing. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
31 years ago there wasn't much here. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Just a few people studying music and they all wanted to work abroad. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
They'd say that there was no future for musicians in Venezuela, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
but when Maestro Abreu developed his vision, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
he was thinking beyond music to a wider social welfare aspect. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
It's not just a question of giving children an instrument or pointing them towards a music school. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
We go out and try to track them down. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Try to motivate them, get them away from drugs and alcohol, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
from problems with their parents or other family members. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
And we tell them, "Here's an instrument for you. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
"You don't have to pay for it." | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Hard work can overcome anything. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
All the children and young people involved in the Sistema | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
are proof of that. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Across Venezuela, nearly 200 music schools have been established to attract the very youngest children. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:32 | |
TRANSLATION: This is the Simon Bolivar Conservatory. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
My mother and I came here without realising that it was part of Maestro Abreu's Sistema. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
It's very close to my home. One of the best things about the Sistema | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
is that it's accessible for most people, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
as there are schools all over Venezuela. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Lots of times I saw kids coming out with instruments. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
That caught my attention and it's how I got started. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
We spent about six months studying theory, rhythm and how to read music. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
Then they gave us instruments and that was just totally different. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
THEY PLAY A SCALE | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
TRANSLATION: Then suddenly it was, "Here's Tchaikovsky's Fourth." | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
It's one of the first pieces the orchestras work on here. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
We kept saying how difficult it was, but Maestro Abreu reminded us that nothing is impossible. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
The more difficult it was, the easier it had to be for us to achieve it. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
We just had to work much harder. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
What's good here in Venezuela is that when you learn an instrument, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
you learn as part of an orchestra. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
You don't spend five or six years practising at home or at music school. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
ORCHESTRA REHEARSES | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Two years after their international smash hit, Black Watch, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
the National Theatre of Scotland are launching 365, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
a show that aims to turn equally difficult subject matter | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
into an abstract and truly theatrical experience. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
In the run-up to its opening in Edinburgh, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
we went behind the scenes to their rehearsal rooms in Glasgow. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Can they turn one of society's biggest problems into the hit show of 2008? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
I absolutely don't know. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
I think, I think it's really challenging, this piece. I really do. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
It could all go wrong. We haven't got anything to fall back on. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
It may end in abject failure. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
I might piss Scottish social workers off en masse. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
You need to go. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
You need to learn how to do these things. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
365 tackles the issues faced by young people brought up in care. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
'The starting point for me was something I kind of had as a pet thought or theory or something,' | 0:19:03 | 0:19:10 | |
which was about how we call ourselves a civilised society, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
yet we allow child misery to exist everywhere. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
The show is set in a practice flat, a halfway house where young care leavers | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
learn to live on their own for the very first time. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
The practice flat is a place where there is supported accommodation or living. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
Where the young people go to learn how to budget, to cook, to exist, to live, to be free. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
Often they've been in homes surrounded by loads of other people. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
All these ideas floating around my head shrunk into one image of a flat, and a door opening. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
And somebody, who's had a really unconventional, complicated childhood, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
walking into this flat, to have to learn to be an adult. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
I think all of us had no idea, kind of, what care was like at all. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
You kind of have this view of it, which is wrong. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
I think people kind of know that kids are in care. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
But nobody really knows these fine details. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
This is the furthest away I have ever been for myself. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
It's been quite difficult. I think I can say that for everybody, really. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
We have to go to quite an awful place really. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
A lot of the times, there's been tears shed. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
We talked right at the start before rehearsals about restraining kids. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:39 | |
The idea that, when that's happened to you, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
you recall it in your body as a physical experience. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
It's amazing that these people are treated in that way. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
That's part of their life, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
being restrained, and being held down by people. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Like Black Watch, 365 is based on meticulous research, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and real experiences across the care industry. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
But this time, the NTS are going one stage further in the way the show has been devised. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
The script is a collaboration between award-winning playwright David Harrower, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
and the improvisations of a very young cast. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
I use the actors very, very closely in this. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
I've brought stuff, and they've added to it. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
It's been a constant to-ing and fro-ing process. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
If you have an idea, you go to David and say, "I've got a great idea, can I tell you about it?" | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
It's always open door. So, you feel as though you're very attached to the material, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
because you're creating it as much as the writer is. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
For an auteur like David Harrower, this is an unusual step. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
David's been writing all the way through. I don't think one scene remains that we started with. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
Everything's been re-written. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
One of the things we've set out to the actors is, if we get to the first preview and it's not working, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
we could scrap it and start from scratch. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
With three weeks to go, the team leave Glasgow for dress rehearsals and previews in Inverness. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
It's the first time they'll play to a live audience. But the show still isn't finished. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
I'm nervous. Really nervous. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
-It's two days to go. -And we're still getting scene changes. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
That process is really hard. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
Scene changes and new scripts. But it's exciting. It's good. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
You might want to come in two different ways. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
'A lot of things have changed. There's been eight' | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
new scenes written, which have replaced other scenes. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
I promised the actors that I'll stop making changes after this Friday, which is five days away. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
But I can't really promise that. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
HE KNOCKS LOUDLY | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Are you in there? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Open the door. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
The thing about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
is that audiences are there because they want to go to the theatre and they're interested. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
So there's definitely a sense of adventure. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
Opening at the international festival is slightly different than the Fringe. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
The eyes of the world are upon it. You're going into the lion's den. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
-Get away from my front door! -I'm not going anywhere. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I'm staying right here until you face me. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Katie Mitchell is one of theatre's most innovative directors, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
enthusiastically using film and multimedia in her stage productions. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:25 | |
Ready? Action. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
I'm watching rehearsals for her new National Theatre production, based on Dostoevsky's The Idiot. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
It's all filmed and projected live on to a screen above the stage. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
While actors appear silently on the screen, others provide voiceover and sound effects, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:50 | |
and even operate the cameras. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
As a film critic, I've always been very sceptical about artists from other media | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
attempting to transpose film into their work. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
It's a very dangerous area, and, put simply, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
the chances of getting it badly wrong are much greater than the possibilities of getting it right. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
But Mitchell claims this method of live filming is the only way | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
to try and simplify the difficult source novel. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Explain for me in terms of, it's a theatre production, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
how you used the cinematic imagery with the theatre production. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
We started using video like this when we did Virginia Woolf's The Waves, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
and we were trying to find a form, actually, which could communicate a novel, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
which was entirely made up of internal monologues, which are just thoughts inside people's heads. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
So we realised we couldn't do that as spoken word, we'd have to use some other tool. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
So we looked at video close-ups, and then voiceovers. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
And, from that, we evolved a way of shooting, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
and combining that shooting with live performance. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
It would be almost impossible to adapt The Idiot on stage, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
and capture huge swathes of the internal dynamics in someone's head, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
like Myshkin, the protagonist, absolutely impossible. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
In moments of great joy, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
he always felt sad, and did not know why. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
The thing that's most impressive in just the scene that I've seen being rehearsed, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
is how beautifully choreographed the projected image is. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:29 | |
I quite like the ugliness of the chaos of the construction, and the exquisiteness of the shot. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
And we aim to set the bar very very high on the shots, to make them be as lit, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
as beautiful as they possibly can be. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
And the problem is, or the beauty perhaps is, there will always be errors, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
because it's entirely live. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
As soon as the audience cotton on to the fact that every element is live, you can see the audience suddenly go, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
"Whoosh," because they go, "This is not pre-recorded output, it's live. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
"And there could be an error at any moment." | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
And there's a great delight in participating in that, I think, as an audience member. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
The film elements aren't add-ons here, but are integral to the performance, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
so I feel a whole lot more comfortable with them. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
But Mitchell's style hasn't always won her fans. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Critics have accused her of an arrogant, auteurish approach. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
One theatre-goer posted a programme of her production of Chekhov's The Seagull back to her | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
with one word scrawled on it, "Rubbish." | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
One of the criticisms of your work is, "She'll take a text, then throw it out the window | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
"and make her own version of it." | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
You have come in for a certain amount of flak with people saying, "It's her vision." | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
Hm. Yes. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
In my head, I'm not looking at a play like The Seagull | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
and smashing it to smithereens in a careless fashion. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
Actually, I'm studying it really carefully. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
So, for me, it's very delicate to make a very old play, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
from a much earlier time, live very clearly and brilliantly now. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
Do you like to think of yourself as an auteur? I would take that as a compliment. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
I don't like so much to be called an auteur. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
It doesn't sit very comfortably on me. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
I'm just trying to do things as clearly as I possibly can. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
In a way, every director makes a huge range of interpretational decisions, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
the costuming, the casting, the translation of a text, the design of it. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
And it's just different degrees of intensity of interpretation. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
So I suppose in mine, it's just a little extremely interpreted. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
But it's almost as if there's me extremely interpreting it, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
and everyone else doing a very discreet, beautiful, true to the text thing. But that's not the case. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
They're all interpreting it, but they're interpreting it in a different direction. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
I'd like to reclaim that term as a term of praise, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
not a term of abuse. When people call you an auteur, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
-you should say, "I am. And I'm very proud of it." -I'll try it out then. -OK. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
It's the recipe for the blockbuster musical that no-one's been able to match. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
Take a deformed ghost, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
a virginal beauty, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
her rather drippy suitor, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
and a collapsing chandelier. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Add lashings of lush romantic music, and there you have it, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
the most successful stage show in history. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Transforming the show into a lavish West End musical fell to the late Maria Bjornson. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
But, the opera designer had never worked in mainstream theatre before. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
This I'd quite like to be a shiny black, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
-that's actually quite reflective, and to mix velvet with a shine. -Sure. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
Maria was a crazy genius really. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
She was tough to work for, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
she was always tearing her hair out | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
about some terrible detail that wasn't going right. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
But you put up with it all, because you knew the final product was going to be amazing. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:16 | |
The crazy genius and her assistant were facing one of the biggest challenges of their careers. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:23 | |
Their task was to recreate the Phantom's original home, the majestic Paris Opera House. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:33 | |
Maria and I came here in late November '85, and there was a sprinkling of snow outside. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:59 | |
And we came here, really, to get the spirit of the building. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
We took hundreds of photographs, and went all the way down to the basement and up to the roof. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
We spent a lot of time here on the staircase because, obviously, it's a prominent feature of the show, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
and really to find out how we could adapt the details to be part of a theatrical presentation. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:21 | |
A key feature of the show was to be a massive chandelier, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
which would crash down over the heads of the audience. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
We looked at this amazing chandelier and thought, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
"How are we going to get anything like this in a small London theatre, and make it work?" | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
But, by looking at the design - and it's made in hoops, which makes it collapsible, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
which was a godsend to us, we were able to take those elements, and made a simplified design. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
On 30th September, previews began. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
The public's first opportunity to see the show before its official opening. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
All eyes were on the other star attraction - the massive chandelier, which had taken weeks to build. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:19 | |
Not surprisingly, the local council wasn't that keen to let it fall over the heads of the audience. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:27 | |
I was always nervous because you thought, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
"Well, if they end up saying no, you haven't got a show." | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
It really wasn't until the first preview, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
which the authorities allowed us to do, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
and they saw the show... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
and we all sat beneath it as it came down. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
And they went, "Oh no, fine. It's all OK. The show's great. Do it." | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
We were terrified that this chandelier | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
was going to fall into the pit. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
This occupied my thoughts completely. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
We were told it could not come in the pit. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Categorically, it couldn't come into the pit. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
-From where you were sitting, could you see it fall? -I could see it. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
I could see Mike Reed conducting. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
The person who was most terrified was the conductor. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
When it came down, he'd conduct like this. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
I remember I used to have to duck because it used to come right over my head. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
And the first time it happened, I thought, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
"Oh, shit. This is going to... This is... This is a bit close." | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
And it always missed but, you know, just. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
The internet has made sketch comedy more democratic. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Anyone who thinks they're funny can upload content. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
I love the fact that you no longer need a broadcaster to make your sketches. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
A case in point is my childhood comedy hero, Richard Herring. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
He records his own material and then podcasts his show, all out of his own pocket. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
I've set myself the ridiculous task of writing around 45 minutes of brand-new material every week | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
for ten weeks, on my own, with no team of writers like all the other proper comedians. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
How did the idea come about for running your podcast live? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
I'd been doing a Radio 2 show that was about history, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
and then I said to them, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
"Can I do one about what's happened to me this week | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
and what's going on in the world, but from my perspective?" | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
It didn't happen and then I just kind of thought, "Why don't I just do it myself?" | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
It just felt quite exciting to be able to do a show where anything could happen, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
and I didn't have to worry about upsetting people because people choose to download it. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
That's another good thing about the internet. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
If you're on TV or radio, you're being broadcast into people's homes, and you have a responsibility. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
-On the internet, they choose to listen. -And they can stop quite easily. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
They can stop and they don't have to listen. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
So I had the freedom to think, "I'll do something that I know people who like me will like, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
"maybe it'll get more people to like me, maybe it won't, but let's see how it goes." | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
That suits stand-ups as well because when you're a stand-up, you write your own shows, you're the boss. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:03 | |
I think, for me, TV comedy, not exclusively, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
but the people who are deciding what goes on TV and radio generally don't know as much about comedy as I do, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:13 | |
and are putting shows together, like, "I like him, and him, and him. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
"Let's put them together and do the same sketch every week." | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
So it's that freedom to go, "Look, I've got an idea. It IS good enough that people will like it." | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
And if people like it, the potential for a cult audience is huge, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
as Will Ferrell proved when he posted a sketch about his landlord. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Hi, Pearl. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
You don't have to raise your voice. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
I can give you half. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
The sketches received over 65 million hits, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
and led to the creation of the website Funny Or Die. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
The site thrives on its audience critiquing the sketches. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
Viewers are asked to rate the sketch as funny, or whether it should just be killed off. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
A year ago, a British version of Funny Or Die was set up. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
I caught up with its creative director, James Serafinowicz, as he filmed one of his sketches. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:09 | |
How do you think the internet has changed the way people make comedy? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
It's slowly starting to make people be more open | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
to ideas of making other stuff. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Like, in the past, I think, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
everyone would kind of squirrel their ideas and protect them, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
and if you had, like, you know, an idea for a sitcom or whatever, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
then you'd make sure that no-one in the world would ever find out what it is, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
just in case that was your ticket to fame and fortune. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
It's easier to do, because... | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
You can see what we are filming today, it's just, you know, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
you've turned up, we're going to do it, and in an hour we'll be finished. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
So it might be easy to make, but, if you're starting out, how do you know that your sketches are even funny? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
Hello, welcome to Popcorn Comedy. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Thank you for coming along. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
Popcorn Comedy is a night that's run like a gig, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
where the best in new internet sketch talent is showcased in front of an audience. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
Hi, darling. I'm John Cornish, your husband of 25 years. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
And I'd like to welcome you to this DVD. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
The night was set up a few months ago by two comics. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
I think, for the film-makers, they get a chance to see | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
their films in front of an audience, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
and understand where the laughs come, and the reaction. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
And that really helps you in the future, so that you know what works. You kind of understand it. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
What do you feel the advantages are of making films online as opposed to trying to get things made on TV? | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
It's quite liberating, cos you don't have to worry about... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
In TV, the further up you seem to go in TV, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
the more people there are to sort of tell you where you have to change your script, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
or just all chipping in there like the proverb, too many cooks thing. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
But with the internet, you kind of, you know, you can just do what you want. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
What advice would you give to people thinking about making their own sketches? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
Make it, put it up. If you've got an idea, put it out. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
And also, don't be precious about ideas because, you know, maybe it isn't funny. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:03 | |
But you've got to kind of get through the layers of rubbish before you strike gold. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
You can always delete it. If it's not funny, just delete it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
So if anyone can make their own sketches and put them online, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
where does a traditional broadcaster now fit in? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
People can certainly be successful without a broadcaster, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
of course they can. And that's great, but... | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
So I think it's more for the broadcaster to work out how they fit into the equation. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
There is a whole audience out there who are... | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
They're consuming more media, so television is still being watched. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
But they're also consuming it online, and it's part of their media mix. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
And if we're not part of that, then we miss out a whole part of people's time and their interests. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
And I think there's a danger of becoming less relevant. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Hello, sir, welcome to the hotel. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
We do hope you enjoy your stay. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
Mark Watson's latest project, The Hotel, is possibly the boldest show at this year's Fringe. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
Billed as installation art meets promenade theatre meets comedy, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
it's been a three-month labour of love for Watson and production company, The Invisible Dot. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:24 | |
A cast and crew of 75, all working for free, have transformed an empty building on Queen St into a hotel, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:31 | |
cramming its five floors with an incredible amount of detail. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
I've done some weird things in Edinburgh, but this | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
is the most difficult to explain. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
It's not really a play, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
it's not really a... arguably, it's not even really a show. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
What's basically happening is the audience is going to come in and be taken round the rooms. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
Second floor, one above that. Enjoy the show. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
They'll be sort of funnelled through the hotel by officious staff, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
who will be getting in the way and ordering them around. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
People will come in groups or couples and, even then, they will sometimes be sort of forcibly separated. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
Hello, madam. Come this way, please. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
The restaurant's full at the moment. This way. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I'm as suspicious of audience participation as anyone. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
I hate the idea of being coerced into doing stuff, but, because of the setting, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
I don't think people will feel they're made to do something unpleasant. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
Some things that you go to, like this where it's more of a museum, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
or installation piece, and it's quite static, you can look around and think, "I've seen this now." | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
I think here, people will always feel like there's more to see, you know. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
Work began on the site back in July, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
when a small army of volunteers arrived to scavenge for props, and start building the set. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
I think of it in two stages, really. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
Stage one is build the thing, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
and stage two is to fill it with comedians. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
And then Mark Watson's arriving in Edinburgh about 2nd August. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
So me and Mark will work with all the comedians, and work up their scripts and things like this. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
So it will be by the seat of our pants. We're making it up as we go along. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
We got 20 volunteers. They're not getting paid, I'm not getting paid, Mark's not getting paid. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
All the money goes on building the show. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Even best-case scenario, you can't make any money. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
So I don't really know what I'm doing here. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Started recruiting people on no more sort of substantial basis than just saying, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
"We're doing something in a hotel. It will be a show. Do you fancy it?" | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
And, Edinburgh being what it is, incredibly, a lot of people did come forward from that. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
The cast were brought in just one day before the show opened. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
They were given some notes by Mark, and then left to improvise. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
I think you're all about sort of making these empty statements. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
So, in a way, you ran that very fast. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
In another way, you didn't run that very fast, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
and, in another way, it wasn't you running. Things like that. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
And the track wasn't even there. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
I think one of the things about... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-There's an envelope in this room. We need to push that. -Exactly, yeah. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
My guy is Vivian Fleet, who is a wellness tsar. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
I think it's going to involve some degree of spandex. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Wellness is all around us. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
-Yes, I can see that, but is it really? -It's on the windows. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
-OK. -This woman here... -is not well. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-She thought she was well, she isn't. -OK. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
What proportion of the guests would you say, are, "well," as you put it? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
No-one, apart from myself. Holly is getting there, my assistant. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
So not a single person is actually... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
No. We've just done a wellness exercise, and it was done extremely poorly by the people in here. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
Couldn't even shut their eyes. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
There is no precedence, there's no expectations. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
There are no rules, so some people will, I think, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
be really wowed by it, as they say, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
and will really go away feeling like this absolutely unique experience. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
But quite feasibly, other people will think, "That was stupid, a stupid thing to do." | 0:41:36 | 0:41:41 | |
And I'm... I think we're all quite happy with that, basically. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Please come again soon. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I've always believed in, with my shows, that in the main, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
that it's great to try and sort of bring forward the boundaries of the musical. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
At the moment I think the interest in India is at an all-time high. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
So, if you ever had to do something like this, this is the right time to do it. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
This is going to be a big dance show. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
They just move, and they don't stop moving all the way through. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
The shows that I've worked on successfully | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
is when the team gels, and there's no overriding egos. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
I mean, we all have our egos, but it's when the egos actually combine and move forward as one. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:56 | |
And it's a very, making musicals is a very, very difficult thing, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
because the number of people there with their egos, with their creative ideas... | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
You have the choreographer, the director, the designer, the costume designer, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
the lighting designer, let alone the authors, the composer and writer. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
Steven Pimlott and Anthony Van Laast are here to visit Bombay, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
to research Bollywood dance routines with Farah Khan, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
which their British Asian cast will need to master. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
-It's quite exciting seeing it all for the first time. -It is very exciting. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-It's going to be great today, working with the Indian dancers. -Yeah. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
It's going to be very interesting. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
It's the first day of my collaboration, really. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
-Yes, it is. -And how it's going to... | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
How it's going to work. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
-Hi, everybody. This is Anthony. -Hi, hi, hi. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
-This is Gita. -Gita, nice to meet you. And this is Nicola. -Hi, Gita. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
-Finally. -And this is Steven Pimlott here, the director. -Nice to meet you, hi. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
Farah Khan choreographed the famous train sequence in the film Dil Se, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
which was composed by AR Rahman, and is to feature in Bombay Dreams. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
What's so good about watching them now is they have a style | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
that none of the dancers in England have, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
and I think it's really important that I look at this style with you. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
Just the way the men move too, it's just very different to the way that our men move. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
-Many are better than the girls are. -It's fantastic. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
-Do that again. -It's just, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6..." -So a double here? | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
But you don't move. It's just there. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
-Don't move your legs too much. -You know what? You need more hips! | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
And I need to lose mine. You can take mine! | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
Watching Nicola move now, you can see that she's actually got a much harder edge to it, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:47 | |
whereas when you watch Geeta working, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
it's much softer but the weight is right down, the weight is sunk, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
maybe because from classical Indian dancing, where the weight is much more sunk down, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
maybe that's coming through, maybe in the culture, the way that people move here anyway, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
the weight's much further down than we normally work. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
You've got to go up and down. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
'What happens in this song is that the language kind of dictates | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
'the kind of movements you would do, especially if they are love songs. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
'If it's just a dance number and they're singing,' | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
it doesn't matter what the words mean, but if it's a love song, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
I definitely make sure that what they're saying collaborates with what they're doing, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
you know, because with English lyrics, that could look a little ridiculous. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:34 | |
But I think I'll face that problem when I hear the songs. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
He's a slum boy who wants to be in films, so he should be doing everything as if he's... | 0:46:39 | 0:46:45 | |
-Almost like he's the star. -And then the girls can join in behind him. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
We'll have a cart he can climb on, and have someone push it. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
Exactly. So we'll do a little kind of backing dancing. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Yes, almost like a backing. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
We're going to have these really slummy girls, but almost like back-up singers. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
You know, if he's got a pipe in his hand and he's using it like a mic. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
And these girls behind going... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Would they do all this? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
-Would they do this? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
-Lovely. -In the Bollywood pictures, you had 40, 50, 60 people doing the same step over and over again. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:20 | |
In the West End, on a stage, that would be interesting for about 15 or 20 seconds. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
So what I have to do is somehow... | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
That would be the climax of the number. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
There's an old expression in choreography that unison, which means everyone dancing together, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
is the most powerful weapon, but only powerful when used in a very small amount. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
So if you had everybody dancing together for three minutes, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
it would be like hearing someone screaming for three minutes - boring. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
And then also, within the Bollywood steps, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
there are steps which will work and steps which won't work on a West End stage. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
So I have to edit those steps as well to make them work. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
What I've got to do is sculpt them and change them. "Face that way, move that way." | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
'They don't do a lot of moving around. It's all done in blocks. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
'I've got to move it around, shape it around, and then find a way of orchestrating it to make it work. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:09 | |
'It's going to be quite a challenge.' | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
We're the Ballet Boyz. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
We were leading dancers with the Royal Ballet for 12 years, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
where the Rite of Spring was one of our favourite ballets. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
It's a production that changed the rules of music and dance forever. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:35 | |
It tells the story of an ancient tribe, whose pagan ritual climaxes in the sacrifice of a virgin. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:40 | |
Before that opening night in Paris, ballet looked like this. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
Afterwards, it could be raw, primitive, even ugly. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
The audience was so outraged that fighting broke out. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
A century on, we've set ourselves a challenge. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
Using extracts from the original score, we're re-making the Rite of Spring. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
We're starting with the pounding rhythms of the adolescents' dance. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
This scene introduces us to the younger members of the tribe. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
It sounds to us like a battle, teenagers showing off, trying to outdo each other. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:12 | |
We think the best way to interpret this music is with break dancing. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
So this is some sort of warm-up. I mean, if you were a ballet dancer, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
you'd be standing at a bar now, bending your knees. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
-But it looks a bit like a battle. I mean, that's kind of... -Yeah, apparently this is how it starts. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
-He's good. -Yeah. I think we're going to take this whole team. This is their A-team. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
So this is the music. I'm not sure if anyone's going to be able to dance to it. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
This could be where the plan just falls apart right now. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
MUSIC: "The Augurs Of Spring" by Stravinsky | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
-Stravinsky, right? -Yeah. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
So this is what we see as sort of a battle theme. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
There'd be, like, six guys on each side. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
The time signatures and the tempo's a bit different than what they're used to, but... | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
-It's slightly less random. -Are you going to leave us with that, so we can get used to it? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
-Yeah. -Then that's easy. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. -All right, I'll see you in a month's time, then. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
That's cracked it. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:35 | |
Almost rushing at each other. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
Most of these dancers will never have heard this music before, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
let alone danced to it. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
But we're confident that Kevin understands what we're after. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
What are you working out here? | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
Because I think the idea is that there's two tribes, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
and they come together as one, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
so I'm trying to get a bit near the end where they kind of meet and become brothers. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:03 | |
1, 2, 3, 4, good. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
-So they're going to come out, mince and then 1, 2, 3, 4, and everybody's together. -Can you show me a mince? | 0:51:10 | 0:51:17 | |
Mince, this is a mince. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
That's a mince. Haha! | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
Let's go from the top. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
Unlike the music they're used to, the beat in this score follows no regular pattern, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
so Kevin decides just to listen out for the musical highlights. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
Wait, wait. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:36 | |
I want you to be out by there. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
So, listen to the music. You're most probably going to be first. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
-No. I cant hear that music, bro. Choose someone else. -Why? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
-I can't hear it, bro. -You can, man! | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
You have to listen to it over and over. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
2, 3, 4, 5, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
6, 7, 8, | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
9, 10, 11, 12.... | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
It's the music, it's quite challenging for us. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
When you really bang it out, and you catch the beats and the accents, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
it's nice. Yeah, it's good. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
First time you've danced to classical music? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
Not the first time I've listened to it, but the first time I've danced to it, yeah, for sure. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
Definitely. But it's an experience and I'm really enjoying myself. This is fun. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:36 | |
Imagine, the son of a Cuban truck driver, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
a champion break dancer, who dreams of becoming a footballer, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
but who's sent to ballet school by his father, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
to keep him off the streets and out of trouble. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
That's the story of Carlos Acosta, principal dancer of the Royal Ballet. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
This really is a tale of contrasts, the inspirational story of a brilliantly-gifted dancer, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:48 | |
who makes the leap from the back streets of Havana to the forefront of classical ballet. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
I didn't know what ballet was in the first place. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
I didn't know what that was. I just saw these people moving around, you know, the girls, and all this. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:17 | |
I said, "Ah, forget it," you know? | 0:54:17 | 0:54:18 | |
"I am athletic, I play sport, I'm not going to do that!" | 0:54:18 | 0:54:24 | |
And look at me, a ballet dancer now, proud of it! | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
'I mean, who would have thought that I would have been here, now, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
'in the Royal Opera House, rehearsing La Bayadere with Darcey Bussell?' | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
OK, thanks. You know what I think about this here, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
you start taking her arm too soon, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
and we see you taking it. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
I'll show you. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
No, you should wait, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
-and then take a step. -Ah, OK. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
-Because we can see this hand being taken. -All right. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
-So go all the way. -OK. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
Like that, like that. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
-TANNOY: -'Chris Porter, contact the stage door, Chris Porter.' | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
We don't seem to have any time off. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
'No, we don't. This is our life. This is what we do. We're living. It's a lifestyle. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
'Wake up, come here, get your corrections to improve it to the next day, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
'then go to costume fittings, and then fix your make-up, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
'and then some more corrections and go there, rehearse, class, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:51 | |
'massage, then go home, eat, rest, and then the next day, the same.' | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
Tomorrow morning, we have a general rehearsal also, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
and this ballet's a long ballet, very hard. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
And then I need to wake up and do another ballet, lots of jumps... | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
And then on Sunday, it's the recording. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
Then Monday, another general rehearsal. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
And then Wednesday, the show. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
I'm like this. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
I hate it when you don't think. You know, you take one thing at a time. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
The eyes position, please. Nice. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:48 | |
Accurately, please. Rhythmically, please, rhythmically. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
Hands in the position. Fingers and hands. Thighs again. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
-TANNOY: -'David, Natalie from the press office. Janine, please go to Carlos Acosta's dressing room.' | 0:57:07 | 0:57:13 | |
'Janine to Carlos Acosta's dressing room, please.' | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
'Ballet's very difficult because it's very unnatural, because the body, the human body's not made for that. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:31 | |
'You have, constantly, injuries. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
'Pain is part of our lives. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
'It's just very hard, it's very unnatural. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
'Right now, I'm having a problem with my knees. And my ankles, I suffer over my ankles. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:56 | |
'I have had four surgeries on my right ankle. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
'I use my body so much, I jump very high. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:05 | |
'Of course, you have to pay a price. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
'It is difficult to keep the level. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
'That's what the people sometimes don't understand, because you are as good as your last show. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:17 | |
'They don't care. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
'They don't care if you are in pain, they don't care. They just pay to see you at your best. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:25 | |
'And the day that you don't provide that, then they're going to say, | 0:58:25 | 0:58:30 | |
"Oh, he's not the same." | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
'And that's how it is.' | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
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