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Hello, red button viewers. Thanks for joining me. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:04 | |
So you have heard the story of ballerinas through history. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Now I'm going to share my own story of life as a ballerina. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
I remember Kenneth always saying, "Have you ever been in love, Darcey?" | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
I was like, "I'm not going to tell you." | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
In front of the whole audience, I burst into tears. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
And that was heart- breaking, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
I actually believed I was going to leave the company. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
'Darcey Bussell was a principal dancer with the Royal Ballet | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
'for nearly 20 years. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'During her career, she performed all over the world | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
'and with some of the greatest names in dance. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
'But it is fair to say, her debut didn't immediately mark her out | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
'as the star she would become.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
My first experience performing on a stage was when I was 11. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
And I was a stork, and I had a very long beak | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
and I had to go around on one leg a lot, which obviously | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
didn't have a lot of dancing if I was on one leg a lot! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I remember totally going blank at one point, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and as soon as I turned around and looked at all the other kids | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
on the stage with me and realising, "Oh, my God, where do I go next?" | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
But of course then you're pushed and shoved into the next space. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
'But Darcey's mind had been made up since childhood | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
'and her heart was set on going | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
'to the Royal Ballet School at White Lodge.' | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
I just thought, "Well, hang on a minute, there's not a lot | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
"I can do at this arts school. The only thing I seem to be able | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
"to get right is my ballet classes," that we did twice a week - | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
I don't remember doing it more than that - | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
and telling the teacher that I really wanted to go and audition | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
but my mum wouldn't let me cos she hated it. She thought | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
it would be too strict and I'd rebel even worse than I had. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
So I just persuaded my mum. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
I think we missed the first audition when I was 11, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
and then I found out that there was one last audition when I was... | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
just before I was 13, and she said, "OK, if you still insist." | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
And so we went for this audition. It was like four days | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
and I just remember knowing that I had to touch my toes | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and I had really tight hamstrings, I could hardly touch my toes. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
I could do the splits, so I remember practising and practising | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
before my audition to be able to touch my toes | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
cos I knew we had to do that. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
I remember going wrong a lot in my audition | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
where all the dancers would go that way and I'd go that way. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
But, amazingly enough, they took me. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Most of the dancers there had all been there for two years before me, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
so I was really far behind everybody else. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
I had this lovely image of being able to do everything | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
that I've always wanted to do | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and work with a whole lot of dancers | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
and perform and do school shows and all that. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
As soon as I joined, I suddenly realised how far behind I was | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
from everybody else and that I might have made the biggest mistake, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
you know, telling my mother that this is what I wanted to do. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
But I knew I couldn't actually go back on my word, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
cos I couldn't let my mother have the benefit of the doubt. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Luckily I was quite stubborn, so that kept me through | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
but my first teacher in year three | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
actually said that this probably isn't right for me | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
and I didn't have the head for it or the...just the determination. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
I did cry a lot and feel sorry for myself | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
that I couldn't do any of the steps and everybody was way ahead of me. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
So my first year was quite traumatic, to say the least. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
'After those early ups and downs, Darcey grew to love her training | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
'and became more and more determined to pursue a career on stage. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'But it wasn't always plain sailing.' | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
It was really, really tough | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
when you get into your last year at White Lodge, fifth year, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
and you know the auditions to get into the Upper School... | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
And everybody, I think, believes, you know, when you're in the school, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
you're automatically going to get into the Upper School, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
but there's no way. I mean, so many... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
I mean, half the amount of you get into the Upper School | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
and that is terrifying, and you'd seen it happen years before you | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
with so many, what you thought were great dancers and they didn't get in. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
They do an interview with you as well, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and they tell you basically where your weaknesses are | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
and that was horrible, to hear all that. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
And then I remember going in for my interview | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
and sitting on my hands because I was so nervous about | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
trying not to fidget, and I was sat like that and I just remember | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
not being able to move my hands afterwards cos they were so numb. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
In my year, I think only... out of 20 girls, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I think only five of us got into the Upper School. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
'Having made it into the Upper School, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
'Darcey won a solo part in a school production. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
'The ballet was Concerto by legendary choreographer Sir Kenneth MacMillan.' | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
It's quite terrifying cos everybody has to be really clean | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and all together and all those things. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
And I remember my corps de ballet, we used to have classes... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
corps de ballet classes, where you had to keep in line | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and in synch with everybody else and I was hopeless at that. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
So I was quite lucky I was doing a solo really! | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
But it was one of those pieces that was very strenuous | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
and, you know, I didn't... I hadn't really learnt then either... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
I wanted to do everything 100% | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
and I didn't know how to pace myself at all. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
So I did totally die and I remember not being able to feel my feet | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
or my hands, everything kind of would go limp | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
and you'd go, "Oh, my God, I can't point them, I can't point them!" | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
'It was Darcey's first role for Kenneth, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
'a choreographer who went on to make a lasting impression on her career.' | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
I think about two weeks before we had our school performance, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Kenneth actually came in to watch us rehearse. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
And I remember being incredibly deflated | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
because I'd slightly pulled something, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
I think a hamstring or something, and I could only half-mark my solo. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
So I wasn't allowed to do any of the jumps, I could only do the turns. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
So there he was, sitting there, and I couldn't even prove that I... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
he chose the right girl, which was horrible | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
because he doesn't show any facial expressions at all when he sits down | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
and sits through a rehearsal, which was quite humiliating, sadly. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
'After all that training, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
'the ballet students still needed to find a job. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
'In the UK at that time, their options were limited | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
'to either the resident company of the Royal Opera House, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
'or the touring company based at Sadler's Wells. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
'But there were no guarantees.' | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
You're all aiming to get into the resident company | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
because you know it's the bigger company | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
and they have the bigger tours and the bigger repertoire, supposedly, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
and the touring company is seen to be the company | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
that doesn't have a home as much. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
They had Sadler's Wells Theatre | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
but they shared that with many other companies. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I got a job with Sadler's Wells Royal Ballet | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
and they said, "We want you to go there | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
"because you'll get more experience sooner," | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
and I thought, "Wow, they're telling me that I'm going to get, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
"you know, some work," so I thought, "That's amazing." | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
I didn't actually think that I got a duff deal at all. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
I was really happy with going into Sadler's Wells Royal Ballet. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
A lot of people came up to me and said, "Oh, I just presumed | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
"you were going to get into the resident company," and I was like, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
"Oh, I'm just happy I got a job." | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I mean, I think that it was so rare to get jobs | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
that you were just chuffed that you'd got one, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
because there was a lot of dancers that didn't get jobs | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
and did have to then go abroad. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
'When Darcey joined Sadler's Wells Royal Ballet, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
'the artistic director was Sir Peter Wright, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
'who guided her through her early professional performances.' | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
He was very forthcoming, as in he would speak to you | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
and after every performance, you know, however little your role was, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
he'd give you some input, and that was amazing. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
But my first - I have to say this - | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
my first part in Sadler's Wells Royal Ballet | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
after training for eight years, I had a walk-on role as a skeleton. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
So I came on in a mask and covered in black | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
and Galina Samsova was performing and she was the queen, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
I think she was Queen Elizabeth or something | 0:08:21 | 0:08:22 | |
and it was...oh, it was the worst part I've ever had. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
I had never felt so deflated in my life. I thought, "Oh, my God!" | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
And this was the first ballet I did with the company | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and I was a skeleton. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
'Thankfully, the roles soon improved | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
'and Darcey went on an international tour with Sadler's Wells. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
'But everything was about to change.' | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
At the end of my first year, we were just finishing the season, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
and I got called in to the office and I thought, "Ooh, what could this be, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
"this is a bit scary, have I done something wrong?" | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
And he said, "Oh, I've got good and bad news for you." | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
And I was like, "Oh, God!" Very worried. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Um...Peter said... I said, "Well, tell me the bad news." | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
He said, "Well, you are leaving the company | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
"and I'm really sad about that." And I went... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
.."OK, why?" | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
He went, "Because Kenneth MacMillan wants to make a ballet on you | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
"and you're going to the resident company." | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
And I was like, "Do I have a choice in the matter here?" | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
I mean, obviously, it was an extraordinary honour | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
and suddenly, you know, I was taken outside | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
and I was photographed in the local paper and everything | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and...saw me being pushed into the resident company. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
And I remember they said, "We have to promote you." | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
That was the weirdest thing, "We have to promote you, sadly, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
"to soloist because you're doing this main role with Kenneth." | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
'The beginning of Darcey's life at the Royal Ballet, aged 19, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
'just like the beginning of her time at White Lodge, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
'six years earlier, wasn't easy.' | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
There was a lot of disgruntled dancers | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
that believed that I hadn't done my years, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
and normally you wouldn't become a soloist | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
until maybe three years, four years in a company. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
So I knew that I was standing on a lot of people's toes. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
So suddenly I came in to the company after being only one year away | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
and was in solo class with all the principals | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
which was absolutely terrifying cos nobody knew the hell who I was | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
and... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
really didn't help because they were all very disgruntled. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
I don't even remember getting a smile from anybody. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
They just thought I was far too young | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
and I was going to burn out very fast | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
and I was being pushed by Kenneth | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
and that I wasn't going to make it, basically. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I think it was so unusual to push somebody | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
before they'd gone through the ranks, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
um, and Kenneth had done this a couple of times, I think, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
with Alessandra Ferri and people, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
but generally they had never done as well as they should have. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
So I think they were just waiting for me to burn out | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
and it all to be a big mistake. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
I was told to go at the back of the class | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and stand there and follow | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and I even remember the teacher coming in, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
wonderful teacher, Gird Lasting, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and she said to me, "I really don't like your name." | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Cos we were all called by our surname. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
"I can't call you Bussell, I really can't call you Bussell." | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I was like, "What's wrong with Bussell?" | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
"I'm going to have to call you Darcey," like this, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
and that was like, "Oh, she's going to be called by her first name! | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
"Oh, my God!" And I remember that...being slightly odd as well. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
But also being... She actually told... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
She stopped class at one stage and said, "Sorry." | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
And she turned around and she looked at me and said, "Darcey, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
"you are in the resident company now, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
"you're not in that touring company any more. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
"We do things properly here." | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
I was like, "What? I'm doing it just exactly the same | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
"as you would do, we would do, it's no different." | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
And she said, "So, you've got..." You know, I think she was just | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
giving me a correction, but it's just the way she put it, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
she went, "You're not in the touring company any more." | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
And I knew the touring company was brilliant. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
'Darcey's first solo role with the Royal Ballet | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
'was the Lilac Fairy in Sleeping Beauty.' | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
I had to work side by side with my director, Sir Anthony Dowell, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
who was playing Carabosse, and I knew none of the company knew | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
if I was any good, they'd only seen me in class | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
and then suddenly I had to go on stage and do this solo | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
and it's a really hard solo as well. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
But the worst bit for me was the mime against Anthony | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
cos Anthony, you know, was a really friendly director, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
but still incredibly nerve-racking cos if he didn't like something, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
he could...it would... you'd see it all across his face. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
So his face would totally change and he'd go...like that, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
after being like that, and go, "Oh, God, what's she doing?" | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
And it would just... and he'd be like... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
I'd be doing this mime and looking at him and going, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
"Oh, my God, I don't know what to do next!" | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
And like, I'd just freeze. It was this awful... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
These nerves would come over me and I'd have other fairies... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
We had all these fairies in Sleeping Beauty, going, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
"To the right, to the left, to the left. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
"You've got to say that she's little and then she grows up | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
"and then she goes to sleep and she pricks her finger and..." | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And I remember I would get all the mime in there | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
but it wouldn't always be in the right order. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
And that was the worst bit. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
I didn't mind doing the solo, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
but I do remember just shaking all the way through that | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and then as soon as I got a couple of shows under my belt, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
then it was...it settled down, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
but it was really tough, really tough. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
And just trying to prove myself | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and getting the company to accept me was really tough. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Why I was coming into the Royal Ballet was to do this ballet | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
that Kenneth had wanted to create for many, many years, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
and it was called Prince Of The Pagodas. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I was coming in as the main role | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
of the young girl, which is Princess Rose. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
But I knew it was a marathon, I did know that. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Kenneth just loved just working me over and over again, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
so we would just rehearse something, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
so I would never pace myself at all - we would just go over everything. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
Jonathan Cope was the only one that actually spoke to me | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
all the way through all those rehearsals - | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
I never got any input from Kenneth or Anthony Dowell, the director, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
on saying how to handle a role like this. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
It was like coming into the Royal Family! | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
It was that feeling of, "Is anybody going to tell me how to cope?" | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
After the curtain went down, the director came on stage | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
and came straight up to me and said, "We are promoting you to principal." | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
And I went, "Oh! Are you sure?" | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
I was like, "No, no, no, no, you can't do this today!" | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
And that was amazing. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'Darcey felt at home in MacMillan's pieces, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
'but no dancer could be at the Royal Ballet | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
'and avoid the work of Sir Frederick Ashton, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
'another one of the great 20th-century choreographers.' | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
I remember when I first got in the company, I didn't understand | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
why all the ballerinas or soloists would wear pastel colours. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
And I found out - because Ashton loved them | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
in pale blues and pale pinks and they all wore pale colours, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
and I thought, "My God, nobody ever wears those!" | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Um, but in the Royal Ballet they did because of Sir Frederick Ashton. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Um, but watching him rehearse, when I was a student, was amazing. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
You know, he wouldn't get... let anything go past him. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
He was fanatical about movement and how you used your whole body. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
And that, I learned a lot, just from watching his ballets | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and how they were meant to be done, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
and that you used your whole waist | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
from, you know, en croix, you know, all the way round, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
you would show your back in every move you could with Ashton, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
and that was brilliant. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
And I did love that, and how he got everybody to touch the floor | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
on every port de bras or renverse, you know, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
with balance, he'd be getting everybody to touch the floor. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
And we would always laugh and go, "Oh, this is so silly." | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
But actually, when you stood back in the auditorium | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
and would watch the stage call and watch them all move, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
you'd go, "Oh, my God, of course," you know. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
"It's exactly why he's asking for it," | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
because of the movement that is created. It was beautiful. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
But he was terrifying cos he chain-smoked | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
the whole way through rehearsals. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
And so there was this little puff of smoke, and you knew where he was | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
cos Sir Fred's over there cos the smoke was coming out. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
He was terrifying, and I think he was from that old school | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
where, if a dancer wasn't producing what he wanted, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
they would just be out of that role. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
And there would be no question or explain why. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
You'd just be out and the next person would be in. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
And that's why everybody just looked up at him and just went, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
"Oh, my God, I just want to make sure I stay in that part, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
"I don't want to lose my role." | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
And I did see a principal dancer get thrown out of a part, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
in front of the whole company, in full costume and make-up, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
with the orchestra, and said, "No, that's not good enough, you're off." | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
And the undercover had to come on and do the whole piece. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
'Darcey had an unusual frame for the British ballet style, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
'but she wouldn't let that stop her performing her dream roles.' | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
I think, basically, I was tall and I was very physical | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
and so I wasn't a typical British dancer frame | 0:17:24 | 0:17:30 | |
and I think a lot of people didn't think I was going to make it | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
because I wasn't typically English. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
You do get told a lot, "This is what you're good at, OK? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
"This is what you're not good at." | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
And, of course, being a bit stubborn, I always wanted to try and prove | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
that I could be good in the small, fast roles... | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and look young and not look tall and lanky | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
and all those sort of things, and move well, and all those things. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Um, and so I did...I loved doing, like, Ashton's Cinderella. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
It was just so musical and was kind of magnetic, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
I really enjoyed act two and how it built. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
I loved being able to do your solos before your pas de deux, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
things like that. And, um... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
it was just...it was a real magical... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
You really got it, what the audience were getting from it, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
and you felt that you were producing a bit of magic on that stage. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Somebody like Sylvie Guillem, who, when I was first in the company, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
came and guested, and she was a tall girl, just like me, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
an incredible dancer, very strong, physical, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
but she did all the classics. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
So she did Aurora and, I mean, Swan Lake is more obvious, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
but she did Giselle, um... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and she did a lot of the romantic ballets, even being a tall girl, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and I have to say, I think that opened a lot of doors for me | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
because I think the company really believed that they hadn't | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
really had a tall, strong dancer. They hadn't had many, basically, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
and a lot of the repertoire didn't really have a place for me | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
and...and with Sylvie coming in and doing a lot of those classics, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
it just, I think, opened many more doors for me | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and they thought, "OK, Darcey could do that, then." | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
'But there was one role Darcey was determined to try, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
'even if the Royal Ballet director was less than keen on the idea.' | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Anthony Dowell, I mean, did say to me, "You'll never do Juliet. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
"You know, for me, you're not a Juliet," | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
and it was only Kenneth that actually said, "No, I want her to do Juliet." | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
And to get that ability to actually prove | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
that I could be a Juliet was amazing | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and he did actually say, "I can take all that back, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
"you know, you have proved yourself." | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
That was brilliant, cos I never, ever thought I was going to get that part. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
And I'd seen Sylvie Guillem do it and I thought, "Oh, you know, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
"I could be a 14-year-old, easy!" | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
I remember Kenneth always saying, "Have you ever been in love, Darcey?" | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
And I was like, "I'm not going to tell you." | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
But it was one of those things where, you know, he wanted to know | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
if you'd experienced having your heart broken, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
if you'd experienced this, or had you experienced that. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
And it was really important, cos then he didn't actually believe | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
you could actually put that into the role then. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
And he did, he wanted you... every experience that you'd had, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
to put it into a role. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
To put your own twist on it was really hard, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
and not to look like one of the other ballerinas | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
that had done it in the past, and that was the toughest thing. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
You'd watched videos of great dancers do these roles | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and you thought, "Oh, I love how they... Oh, I like that..." | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
But you wanted your own thing, and that's tough, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
and convincing people, "Can't I do it like this?" | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
You know, and, "Oh, no, the timing changes then, you can't do that." | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
You're like, "Oh!" like that. So that was slightly deflating. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
'Manon is one of the most dramatic roles for a ballerina, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
'and Darcey was desperate to take it on. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
'But initially it looked like | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
'she would never get the chance to perform it.' | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
I had quite an odd experience when I first learnt it, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
cos I was down to do it with Irek Mukhamedov, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
who was a Bolshoi star, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
who'd been in the company for probably about two years. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
And we'd had a ballet made on us, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
that had been very successful - Winter Dreams - | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and that was all great and brilliant | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
and I really enjoyed working with him. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
But he probably was...probably a little bit too small for me. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
We probably weren't suited for the classics, especially. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Um, but Kenneth, I think, thought, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
because of the success of Winter Dreams | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
that we'd be perfect in Manon, together - | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
and it's a totally different ball game. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
He'd never done the role before, I'd never done the role before, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and there we were down to do the first night. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
And I think two weeks before, we just...both of us knew... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
"Oh, my God, this is not working, we can't do these pas de deux, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
"this is agony and...and..." It was just basically | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
that our proportions were not suited to each other. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
And so I got taken out cos I was the younger dancer. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
And that was heart-breaking. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
I actually believed I was going to leave the company. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
At that time, I'd just guested with New York City Ballet | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
and they'd offered me a job and I thought, "Perfect, I'll go there, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
"that's fine, I don't care." | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
I did really, really think about going to New York | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and going to the company there and I thought, you know, sadly, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
their repertoire just isn't big enough, and I know we have | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
one of the best repertoires in the world, the Royal Ballet Company. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
And I thought, "I've got to stay." | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
But I was devastated that I didn't get to do Manon that first time. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
But luckily I got to do it again, I think the following year, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and it was a brilliant role to play. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I think, cos she goes through... Manon goes through | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
this massive transformation during this three-act ballet - | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
from this young girl that's come out of a convent, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
who's naive to the world - | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and then is taught all these horrible things - | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
er...how to gain money, how to gain love, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
just to manipulate her life or be manipulated. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
And she goes through hell, basically. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I mean, it's incredibly dramatic and she grows up incredibly fast, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
and gets used and uses others, um...and then dies at the end. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
So it is probably one of the most perfect roles | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
to have played for a ballerina, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
because you experience every emotion within three acts. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
It's funny, I've done it nearly everywhere around the world | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
and with other companies. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
And, er...but one of my best experiences was | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
when I did it in La Scala, in Milan. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
And, um...you know, being a British dancer | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
and going, "Yeah, we've got guts as well. We know how to be dramatic, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
"and throw a wobbly on stage." | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
And that was the best thing, cos I could never be a diva | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
but I could be a diva when I played Manon. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
'But all good things must come to an end. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
'And in 2006, Darcey decided | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
'the time had come to hang up her pointe shoes. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
'Her final performance on the Royal Opera House stage was in June 2007.' | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
I think I'd been planning for ages to try and retire gracefully. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
I was very fortunate. I'd had my second child, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and she was about three years old. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
And I knew I really was pushing the boundaries now - | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
to have two kids and still be doing all the principal roles - | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
and I hadn't cut anything out, I was still doing all the classics. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
And I just thought, "OK, how can I be a little bit more picky and choosy | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
"on the roles I do and slightly, you know, roll it down, basically?" | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
So I became a guest principal, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
and I thought, "This is perfect, I can choose what I want to do | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
"and I can nip out and do performances abroad | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
"with other companies and stuff." | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
And I thought, "This is a really nice way of...you know, tuning out | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
"and...and retiring." | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
And it's very weird, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
because it all depends on what roles come up with the repertoire. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
And I kept thinking, "Oh, I really want to do that. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
"It would be great if that came in the repertoire," you know. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
So of course you could have kept going. I could have kept dancing | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
for probably another five years, quite comfortably. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Um, but suddenly...Monica Mason, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
that was director at the time, when I decided to retire... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
And the repertoire in the last year, suddenly there was | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
Song Of The Earth that came up. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
And I went, "Wow, I haven't done that for 18 years." | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
I thought, "What an amazing piece." It affected me so much | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
"when I was first in the company | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
"and I got thrown into the role by Kenneth, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
"and everything I've been through with Kenneth. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
"What a lovely piece to finish on." | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Then everybody was like, "No, no, no, you... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
"If you're going to finish, you do a Swan Lake | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
"or you do a Sleeping Beauty, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
"you do a big classic to finish your career on." | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
And I'm like, "No, this is the role that's going to make | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
"the biggest meaning. The big impression on me | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
"is Song Of The Earth." | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
So I just, um...I said to Monica, I said, "I'd like to do this role." | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
And she went, "Oh, I really wanted you to do Checkmate." | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
And I went, "No, I'd like to do the role in Song Of The Earth. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
"Please, please, please, please, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
"and I would like it to be my last show." | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
And she's like, "What? Are you sure?" | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
You know, "Don't make any decisions now, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
"but that's fine, you can do Song Of The Earth. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
And then, as closer and closer it came to it, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I just said, "Perfect. This is it. I'd like to finish." | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And I knew I'd been lucky all the way through my career, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
I'd done so much. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I'd had a lot of injuries, but I'd always come back | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and I'd always come back stronger | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
and I'd had two kids and I couldn't have been luckier. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
So I knew I didn't want to test that luck any more, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and I thought, "Perfect way of doing it." | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
But I think you never really know how it's going to affect you. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
And all I wanted to do was finish with a really good performance, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
I think I had three, four, shows of Song Of The Earth, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and my last one was on the 7th of June and I thought, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
"God, if that could just be the best one, please, please, please!" | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
I wanted it to be really good | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
so I could really remember going out on a high. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
I remember all the way through doubting bits of technique | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
I was doing, and I kept looking into the wings | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
and the wings would get fuller and fuller of company members | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
and people. I was going, "Oh, so many people in the wings," | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
and I was trying to just being focused and doing it. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
And by the end, it was packed | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
and I think I was slightly taken aback. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Because I recognised, you know, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
old people that used to be in the company were there. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
And it suddenly, suddenly hit me. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
So it was really a special performance. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
And then I realised that the whole audience weren't going to sit down, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and I was kind of dumbstruck where all these flowers came on | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
and then Anthony Dowell came on | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
and dancers and coaches and everybody I'd worked with during my career | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
were all there, and I just cracked. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
And I never believed I'd crack. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
I don't know, I always felt, "I am strong, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
"I can compose myself, I'll be able to handle this." | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
And, um...in front of the whole audience, I burst into tears. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
And then I couldn't actually contain myself, which was even worse, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
so I didn't recover either, and I thought I'd recover. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
But I think I was on the stage for about ten minutes, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:45 | |
blubbering my eyes out. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
And I purposely asked for my kids not to be there for my last show, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
cos I was...I'd be self-conscious | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
and worried about them if I knew they were watching. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
And apparently they were there. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
And so they were brought on and then I blubbered even more. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
And I remember my three-year-old going, "Why are you crying, Mummy?" | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
I was like, "I'm crying with happiness," like this. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
But it was a very odd experience | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
and nothing will ever, ever feel like that ever again. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
I think it's that sense of relief and loss, it's weird things. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
And I know it's only a career, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
but, you know, it was everything to me. That was only... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
The only thing I knew about myself was that career as a dancer. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
And I was sort of stepping into the unknown. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
But, you know, I felt ready, really ready, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
and it was an incredible piece to do for my last show. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
And, you know, everybody said, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
"Oh, you'll make a comeback, Darce, you'll make a comeback." | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
And I thought, "No, I can't, I can't. This has been perfect." | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 |