Fishermen to Kings: The Forgotten Photographs of Olive Edis


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The great. You head. Rankin is one of the world's most exceptional

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portrait photographers. This work is stylish and contemporary. But studio

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photography is not new. Back in the early lead a handful of woman took

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to the cameras and against the expectations of the genders became

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accomplished photographers. One room with good at it, that while and high

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society courted her. Olive Edis. Was one of a very small group of... And

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she had a special skill and empathy. The face is an index of the

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character and the photograph, if you like to peruse it that way, is the

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x-ray of the soul. She would have had to learn to deal with people who

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perhaps were less inclined to accept her as a photographer or

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professional as a woman. The range of people that she photographed were

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politicians, four prime ministers of England, Kings. There is a

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similarity with what Rankin does today and what Olive Edis did over a

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century ago. This is his quest to discover the comparisons. And to

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discover why such a loss to genius of photography has not had the

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recognition she deserves. He will meet the people who work hard to

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keep her name alive and to understand how skilful she was he

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will get to grips with the camera that has not been used for over 50

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years. The work of the great photographers

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in recent history is exhibited here at London's National Portrait

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Gallery. It's the first place for Rankin to visit in his search for

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Olive Edis's pictures. He's meeting associate creator of photography. To

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find out if her contribution to the medium is acknowledged in the

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collection. This gallery is photography gallery at the moment

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called a century photography and it's from 1840-1940 and all the many

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key works from that period. Olive Edis is offered here. She is

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represented by this copy of one of her wonderful autochromes, early

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colour photography. Gorgeous. This is a project offers sister. -- this

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is a portrait of her sister. Her work is exceptional. Really

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beautiful, this example. Do you have more? Yes, many hundreds. Are they?

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In the basement archive, the Galilee technician has laid out examples of

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Olive's work that they look after. The thing that I am struck by is how

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for that period is seen to be very relaxed pictures, they are not as

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formal as other pictures from the period. Was that her style? She

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always used natural light and she photographed people either in their

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homes or in the studio. And it is, this fascination with faces. Who

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they are as people and that is very, very unusual. You forget society was

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broken down into classes at this point and actually communication

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between classes with formal. She seems to have taken a massive

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leveller, camera, everybody is placed at the same level.

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Absolutely. A photographer's interest comes from anything and

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anybody regardless of status. And their face. Greenbank and a civil

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democratising thing that the camera has. -- and it's a democratising

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thing. It would have been for the first time a democratising thing and

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she embraces that. The first woman doctor, the first woman MP and the

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future king. In a way, you wouldn't do because shisha announces everyone

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and fits them in such a way that you get something off the personality

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rather than profession. -- because shisha on ices everyone. That's

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brilliant, look at that. He is the future king and look at him, he

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looks like a really likeable bloke. Merely a few years after running

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black and white photography, Olive is experimenting with autochromes.

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This is the first commercially available cover process. The way

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they achieve the cover is by dyeing potato starch. This is how colour

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negative works. Actually, digital as well. I don't understand the starch

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thing. Can you explain that? The particles that make up the starch,

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act as a transparent, colour separation filter. It's like a

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chemical reaction from the light? Yes. How do you view them? Do this

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thing that she made herself. That is mental. That is magic. If you are to

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really look like magic. -- it literally looks like magic. They are

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incredibly three-dimensional. You almost feel like you can and touch.

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She was an inspiration in a time for woman. Reporters of influential

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people do little to shed light on who she was. -- her portraits of

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influential people. We are not sure who this person is but it was

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bequeathed to us as the unknown woman. Almost like love. Nobody

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knows the story behind Olive as much as they probably should. One is not

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truly a photographer and this one's work shows what is inside the sister

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as well as what is outside. All of those born in 1876 in London. Her

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father was an eminent gynaecologist and her mother 's side has evidence

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that the are connections with significant members of society.

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Family holidays bring Olive to Norfolk resort. She is inspired by

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her private's friends at a young age. -- her parents' friends. During

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our family holidays in Sheringham, she stayed with her great-uncle. She

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would have seen with the photographs that he made. Photography for Olive

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is to become more than just a passing fascination when a family

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events take a tragic turn. Her father died unexpectedly and it's

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true the family into trauma. It shows something of Olive's character

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that they foraged on as a unit. I listening that she chose after the

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death of her father was photography. -- only thing that she chose. My

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very first attempt at a portrait, which turned my fate in 1900. Olive

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and her sister joined forces to set up a photographic studio in

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Sheringham. They worked together for several years until her sister

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married. They photographed together and of each other. There are

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photographs of many relatives. I've a member my aunt Olive as a

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photographer. She was working with my mother. I used to go to

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Sheringham as a holiday when I was about eight or nine. And Olive

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always wanted to take my photograph. Rankin meets Sheringham residents.

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She is a writer who has researched Olive's Slingsby become. This is the

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site of all of's first studio. This is achieved. It didn't always look

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like this. It was a wooden shed to begin with. It would comply with the

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bylaws so they took it down. It must have caused a furore eyebrows. To

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woman. Despite his initial setback, Olive endured herself to the locals

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quickly. I certainly got the impression that everybody in

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Sheringham new my aunt. She seemed to talk to everybody and know

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everything. She was always on the go. She was a dynamo. She was a very

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accomplished businesswoman and you see that in the branding that she

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created for her business, the Key Largo. You get the sense of the

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businesswoman who knows how to further her career. Olive becomes

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talk of the term, earning sufficient money running a student in London.

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-- of running a studio in London. She doesn't forgot her ties in

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Norfolk. Most are from money came in from the more well off clients. That

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enabled her to photograph local subjects like the local fishermen.

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She invited them into the studio and would give them free prints. For one

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Sheringham man her photographs hold a special place in his family's

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history. This was my great grandfather. He ran a small fish

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shop and he was a character. When people came to his fish shop and

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said, Mr Johnson, I believe there is a part of the crab we should eat,

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and he said yes, deadly poison, deadly poison. He popped it in his

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mouth and ate at two thereof. Olive showed a different side of them. She

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took them into the studio and got intimate portraits. One of the great

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strengths was to be able to get such candid pictures. It was a complex

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diet that they wanted to do this. -- it was a compliment to her. She

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could have remained a top society photographer but she chose to

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photograph fishermen as well. Olive's portraits of the fishermen

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shows that she is able to express herself more artistically for the

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first time. She portrays people as they are rabid than what they do. --

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rather than what they do. Suffragettes sit for her but she

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does not commit to their political cause. For her, photography is

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paramount. She receives the highest accolade ever given to a woman at

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the time. Even as the world is plunged into war, her potential is

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not doomed. Her star rises in prices during the war. -- prices and

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prices. She gets a commission to photograph the interior of Downing

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Street. It culminates with her being approached by the National War

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Museum, which would later be the imperial war Museum. Originally, the

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brief was to photograph woman from Britain and other nationalities

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moving the war but the war was over before she was able to work there.

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What she was able to photograph was the aftermath of war.

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We have a copy of the diary that Olive kept while she was travelling

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around Europe in 1919. Several passages detailed meeting gruff

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military commanders that make it clear that she -- that they think a

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woman's place is not on the battle ground photographing people. The

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driving force is Lady Florence Mono. -- Florence Bormann. The holder of

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this pass is expressly warned that under no circumstances is the camera

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or any other photographic apparat is to be brought into the zone of the

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armies. I signed it forever and took the risk. -- signed it however. She

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was given good access to women in senior and ordinarily position. Also

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behind the scenes, says it would and -- it wouldn't occur to a meal

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photographer to photograph. For example, the hairdressers that the

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woman used on the Western front, the only one of its kind, Olive

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photographed it. Sometimes her... Some of the

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photographs are not precisely sharp and some are blurred. She was a

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studio portrait photographer. This was not her natural environment to

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work in. I propose, said Lady Norman, that we photographed the

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canteen first and then have tea afterwards. To this superhuman

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suggestion I did my best to rise but I did not enjoy it. I think it

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tested her dutiful and considering all of those circumstances I think

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she did a superb job. -- it tested her to the full. She journeys across

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Canada next, taking shots of the Pacific Railroad for advertising.

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Reputation is sealed and back on the royal appointments keep coming.

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Despite the unrivalled position she has reached, personal fulfilment has

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eluded her. Things are set to change in 1928. Oliver was 52 when she

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married her husband Edwin Galsworthy. She was later marrying.

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Was a few years older than her. We were clearly devoted to. There is

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some suggestion that he represents the father figure that she lost when

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she was very young. Perhaps after she met him she did less

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professional work. With photographic work declaiming,

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she is happy to heal people less fortunate than ourselves. She very

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kindly allowed others to stay with her during the summer. I was

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absolutely fascinated. She had these wonderful cameras and explain to me

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how they worked. I watched her developing photographs. I had no

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idea of our importance source significance. After 20 years of

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marriage, Edwin died at the age of 86 in 1947. They mainly of this

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perfect manager keeps minicity, even happy. Her portrait stable is

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becoming dated, getting left behind by new techniques. She upon her

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entrepreneurial exports -- resources. Rankin is about to find

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out that she phoned each surprisingly new way of working.

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This is examples of later work. She revisited some of her previous work,

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going back 20 years with the local fishermen. She decided that by

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capturing the original image, she could turn them into oil paintings.

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This is quite a unique reinvention. For me, the photographs beneath a

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report out the most interesting. Definitely, this women had their

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real gift for challenging what people thought of her and her work.

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To be doing this into her 70s. That is fascinating. One day, and

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aspiring photographer called Cyril Nunn visited her. She was too busy

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and turned him away, but he started working later as the general

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handyman. I am sure he was claiming the techniques that Olive had used.

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He was a tremendous benefit to all in later years. They became very

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close. As for health field, she became more and more dependent on

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several. I am going to ask you to act as an executor to Ray will. You

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will be a beneficiary. I have had to submit to the examination of

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specialists. The heart man discovered something else wrong

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yesterday. In 1955, and the age of 17, Olive died. She is buried

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alongside Edwin and her mother in a grave in sharing certain symmetry.

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-- sharing. But would it be possible that her immense contribution to

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photography date with her? The visit the house that all the moves to

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after her marriage. He is a booted the famed a final twist in her

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story. She left Cyril Nunn all for equipment. He bought the house. It

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has been left just as it was when it was last used. So, by this point,

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several had become a photographer? Yes, it was difficult rain. He was

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the photographer in the area. So, basically, she taught him everything

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she knew? Absolutely. Evidence that Olive 's legacy was not forgotten

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came courtesy of a local historian. I was talking to a person who had

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the collection of photographs taken by all. I was not allowed to see it.

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That was a strong feature about Cyril Nunn. Nobody was allowed to

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see the collection. He said he had it stored. He said he had some in

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the studio, some in the attic. I became very concerned that a big

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collection would get damaged by the likes of temperature only years.

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However, the came a time when I got a call and he said to me, I think it

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is about time the collection was sold. Could you do that? I said they

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would be deleted. It took several carloads. I took everything back

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even to this very room. I catalogued every single thing. The model did

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not know about Olive. -- what you want.

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The biggest recipient of the collection was the museum. We get a

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phone: 2007 are offering this part of her collection. The really

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directly to what they do. They are exceptional. Absolutely exceptional.

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Is that one of the cameras? That is one of the cameras that she used.

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Could they have a go with it? If I wear my gloves? Yes. I was laughing

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because I had the overwhelming temptation to see normal! You should

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probably see that. It is a bit praise position. I promise you I

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will handle it as carefully as possible. Having been given a chance

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to use the camera, that is one problem he had not accounted for. I

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have been asked to try and make some commerce plates to replicate what

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all those dead. That is a bit of an issue with the materials that she

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used. I have been making some plates from scratch. Whether we will work

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or not is a bit of an unknown. Fingers crossed. We have only got

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four to play with. Take the lens cap. We have got a stop watch. We

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are probably looking at an exposure time of between 10-15 seconds. No

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pressure! See, two, one. One elephant, to elephant, see elephant.

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I got up to eight elephants. That is a lot of elephants. With the former

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studio prepared for use once more, Lord of the Rings Stargardt Hill has

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arrived. -- they Hill. You have to do remain fairly stable.

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This makes my job seem very easy. It was the moment of truth. Wish me

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luck. Ready? We will do some more elephants. One elephant, to

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elephants, three elephants, for elephants. I did not even look at

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you! I am really nervous. The four

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negatives have been processed and much to his relief, there is an

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image on each one. At least they came out. I am very happy about

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that. It was no time to make a print. Let me hold it. While! That

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is literally like going back in time. That is incredible. My

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reputation was on the wane. Apart from a stress, I enjoy being able to

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handle a camera of that age and quality and to see how she worked.

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To experience that first hand was really exciting. I am very excited

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to see the pictures. It was a really. Very fascinating. I think

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the extraordinary thing about all of was that no photographer photographs

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such a range of society in the Rishi did. Men dominated society. The work

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that Olive did was fairly sophisticated and very much at the

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cutting edge of what photography was at that time. To see something so

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magical draw me in remains me just why I love photography. -- remains

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