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-Hello, butties! AUDIENCE: -Hello, butty! | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
Actor, comedian, musician, impresario - | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Stan Stennett is one of the most original and talented performers ever to appear on a Welsh stage. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:20 | |
# He heard them bawl | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
# We want no small... # | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
-ROY HUDD: -Stan Stennett loves the business and the business loves him. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
It's a drug, you can't get rid of it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
He loves his audiences, and his audiences love him. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
Why should he pack it in? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
In a career spanning almost 70 years, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
he has performed for generations of audiences throughout the world | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
and won the affection of millions. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
When I think of Stan, I think of someone who probably gave | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
my father and Ernie the opportunity to become great. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
I think that that's not putting too big a spin on it, because Eric said that to me. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
When you think of all the skills - | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
he does pantomime, songs, music, comedian. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
All those things - he's got all those strings to his bow. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
But on top of all that, he is a showman, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
and once a showman... always a showman. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Stan's lifetime as an entertainer has taken him all over the world, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
but he's always been a fiercely proud Welshman with firmly fixed roots. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Stan, how are you? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Hello, butty. How are you? Come in. Enteronto! | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
A bit of Welsh there. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Inside there, lovely. That's it. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
You must have just come from a funeral. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
'His wit and humour is as sharp as ever, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
'and the Cardiff home he shares with Betty, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
'his wife of over 60 years, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
'is crammed with souvenirs from an amazing life that began in Glamorgan in the mid-1920s.' | 0:01:55 | 0:02:01 | |
Stan, can I ask you first of all about your early childhood? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
Tell me about, erm... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
the circumstances you were born in, where it was, how you were raised. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
Yeah. Well, I was raised in Mid Glamorgan, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
down in a little place called Rhiwceiliog | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
near Heol-y-Cyw and near Brynna, a little farm called Ty Robert. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
But I was born out of wedlock, you see? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
And my mother was, erm... a kennel maid. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
She worked on the farm, looking after the hounds. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
But then I immediately was adopted by my grandmother, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
because things like that were, in those days, a stigma. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
I didn't know who my father was, and I didn't want to know. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
And funnily enough, right up until this week, when my cousin went, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
bless her, she was about the last one alive who knew who he was. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
And I was going to... | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
I was going to sort of relent and say, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
"Well, I think I'll try and find out who he was," | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
but I missed out on it, because this week she went as well, bless her. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
When did showbiz start for you, then? Was it very, very early? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
I was only about eight, eight and a half. I was able to buy a guitar. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
It was only about three quid or something like that. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I learned enough to be part of a local band, sing a few comedy songs and bits and pieces. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
So the beginnings of the comedy were there, right, at a very early age. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
'By the time the war started, Stan and his grandmother had moved to Cardiff, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
'where he was already performing with various amateur musical groups.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Can you remember the war starting? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Well, aye, it was in all the papers. I remember the war starting. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I was a van boy for Pickfords when the war broke out, but I very quickly became a driver. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
I mean, I had my test in the morning, and in the afternoon I delivered five ton of peas. You see? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:54 | |
'He combined his van-driving with a fierce ambition to perform - | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
'an ambition that saw Stan, still only 17, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
'auditioning at Cardiff's New Theatre for the comedian Tommy Trinder.' | 0:04:02 | 0:04:08 | |
He told me he liked it, but he said, "Trouble is, you look too much like me," | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
because I had a bit of a lantern jaw, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
like Forsyth and things like that. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
He said, "I'll tell you what, if you go in the business, I'll look out for you. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
"If I can help you out any time, come and see me, but I've got nothing at the moment." | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
So I didn't really get anything. I just went back to work, driving and doing evening jobs and so on. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:32 | |
But it was on the stage, and I sang this song. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
# Oh, what a wonderful party | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
# Lots of joy and fun | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
# But if I miss the last bus home | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I'll get absolutely done | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
# Oh, I mustn't miss the last bus home... # | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Even being drafted into the army in 1943 couldn't keep Stan from performing. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:54 | |
When I went into the army, I mean, I went in as a recruit, that was it. | 0:04:54 | 0:05:01 | |
And right away, I mean, I was looking for ways and means of getting out of guard duty, like we all did. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:08 | |
So I became an entertainer in the army, and they used to always advertise for anyone who could do | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
any entertaining, you know, "Report to so-and-so." | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
And you became a member of the concert party. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
And I came out of the army a couple of years later. Well, I was only 22, I think, when I came out. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
I was brought back for demob to Newport, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and it was whilst I was in Newport in Gwent that I entered | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
a talent competition called the Royal Gwent Talent Contest. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
And I was lucky enough to came first, and I got... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Well, all the army stationed in Newport came along to support me. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
I couldn't well go wrong, really. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
Stan's prize for his success was a guest spot on the national radio comedy series Welsh Rarebit, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:53 | |
alongside fellow comedian Harry Secombe. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Oh, Harry and I became the resident comics, right? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
He'd be on one week, I'd be on another week. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I accept no further responsibility. Ladies and gentlemen, Stan Stennett! | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
# An old coal worker riding out one dark and windy day | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
# He rested as he went along his way | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
# When coming from Treorchy some miners he did see | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
# Digging at the seam of coal | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
# Just for the NCB... # | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
So you'd got a name, Stan, as a musician | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
who could be picked up to play with touring bands and groups and so on. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Yeah, and I had a group called the Harmaniacs. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Well, like, it was three boys, and we all had three wives, right? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
One each. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
So when we went away, we went as six people. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
And Stan's new bride, Betty, wanted to be by his side on tour. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
Well, I had to make up my mind, really, whether I was just going to stay home here, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:02 | |
which I'm sure is no good in show business. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
If one is there and one is there, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
and knowing showgirls, as I do, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
it wouldn't have lasted, you see. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
So I decided, well, to just travel with him, so we bought a caravan. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
During the time that we were on tour, my eldest son was born, Roger, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:27 | |
and that was 61 years ago - gosh. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
I was a week old when I was in my very first theatre, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
and for virtually all of the '50s and well into the '60s, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
my life was lived in dressing rooms. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
I was the original born-in-a-trunk kid, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and I would go from week to week with my mum and my dad | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
from one provincial theatre to another to another. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
And it wasn't until I was... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
I think it's seven I was when the authorities caught up with me | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
and said, "This boy must have an education." | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Now, a husband is...is what's left of a man... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
..after the nerve has been removed. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Whilst the Harmaniacs were on the road, Stan was spotted as a potential star in his own right. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
He grasped the opportunity with both hands and soon became quite a hit on the variety circuit. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
I met Stan as everyone should meet a terrific comic, from the other side | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
of the footlights, in the audience | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
at the Croydon Empire. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
My gran used to take me along every Tuesday night. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
I immediately took to him as a kid, because he looked funny. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
He wore a funny hat, he crossed his eyes, he did funny noises. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
The gag I can remember him doing, the very first time I saw it, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
it was, "She was a beautiful redhead - no hair, just a red head!" | 0:08:45 | 0:08:51 | |
And then he did his funny voices and his music. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Variety was a bit of everything, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
and the people that worked in it, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
they all had what they call "bill matter" underneath your name. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
And mine was, "Certified insanely funny." | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
The variety really means a variety of skills. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
That's what it really means, a variety of skills. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
So on a variety bill, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
you'd get about 12 different acts, but they'd all be different. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
You'd have jugglers, ventriloquists, singers, dancers, oh, all sorts of acts, a variety of skills. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:24 | |
By the late-1940s, Stan was making quite an impact on the variety scene, and the pace was relentless. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:33 | |
You used to do a pantomime, then you had a couple of weeks off, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
then you'd do the spring show, which was about four weeks or something in Coventry at the Hippodrome, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
then you did a couple of weeks off, you had a quick holiday, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
then you did a summer show of about 12 to 14 weeks. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
Then you had a week or something off while you went away and got a bit of your breath back, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
then you did an autumn two weeks somewhere, and then you were into pantomime, you see? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
So that's how it went, you knew exactly where you were. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Pantomime, spring show, summer show, pantomime. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
# Dainty feet like plates of meat... # | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
As the 1950s arrived, Stan, with Betty and his young family in tow, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
was amongst the legions of variety acts criss-crossing the country to perform seven days a week. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:25 | |
# Railway strikes, weekend hikes Cups of tea at Crewe... # | 0:10:25 | 0:10:32 | |
Crewe station, Crewe, which is sort of the centre of all the different | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
railway companies' journeys, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Sunday morning at Crewe was like a variety artists' clubrooms. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:49 | |
People used to meet at Crewe, even if it was only out the window | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
at a train going north. "Where are you going? Glasgow? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
"I'm off to the Palladium!" This used to happen regularly. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
# Memories of you... # | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
This huge variety hall circuit, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
you must have been running into famous people constantly. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
I mean, it was the '50s, early '50s | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
that I met my great friends Eric and Ernie, Morecambe and Wise. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
And we met in pantomime, and we hit it off right away. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
We had something in common right from the start. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
From the very morning we met at rehearsal, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
there was some chemistry about it that made it work for us. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
At that time, Eric and Ernie were just a jobbing double-act, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
going around the country, doing anything they could. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
And they ended up in Sheffield, on Stan's bill, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
and they hadn't met when they got to rehearsals, that was the first time that they met, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
and apparently, according to Stan - and Eric and Ernie - they just hit it off immediately, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
they were gagging all the time together, so there was this great friendship immediately. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
And then what happened, which was amazing, is that then went into the production, | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
so that then they were trying to outdo each other on the ad-libs | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
all the way through the show. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
And then, as it was reviewed at the time, they got fantastic reviews, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
this is why it was so good was because they were ad-libbing so much, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
and where do the ad-libs stop and the script begin? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
And then that led to maybe three, four, five years further in the '50s of doing these shows. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
With reaching the next destination always providing a challenge, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Stan found a new and somewhat unusual mode of transport | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
to get him from A to B. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
You did something that very, very few people did. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
You taught yourself to fly. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
That's right. Yeah, I got over 4,000 hours in. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
So you of all of the entertainers, Stan, in lots of ways, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-you were the most mobile, the most available. -I was, yeah. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
I wasn't the funniest, but I was the most available. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
I sort of collared the market in my time, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
because when I had the aircraft, I formed the Welsh Air Force. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
We called it the Berks Air Force, anyone who flew with me was a berk. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
They must have been. And I had Tommy Cooper, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
he was a berk, Eric Morecambe, Ernie Wise, there was Shirley Bassey. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
You name them, all the people in show business around that time | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
joined the Berks Air Force, and they were all in my gang. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I remember flying over... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
I think we took off from Cardiff, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
looking down and seeing Cardiff, and Stan was saying, "Yes..." | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
I said, "Just you keep your hand on the wheel." | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
I put the wind up a few in my time, because they always felt... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
take them up, just do a few sharp turns, put a few Gs on. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
After that, I think it just... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
"No, no, no, no, Doddy, no, terra firma, terra firma. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
"More firmer, less terror." | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
Stan still flies today and can look back over 50 years | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
of unconventional commuting. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
We used to fly, when I was going away on a summer season, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
we used to fly with the whole family. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
And boy, what a family. I had a wife, right? I also had two sons. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
We used to take a dog, we had a lovely dog called Scamp. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
And then we used to take the budgie, we had a budgie, because he was like part of the family. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
And we also had a goldfish. I had one son at the front in the right-hand seat, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
and being a dual control, like this, you know, he was able to take over and I was able to steady anything. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:23 | |
There was one classic journey where all the electrics | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
on the plane failed, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
including all the electrics that were connected with direction-finding. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
So the only option we had was to drop very low. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
This is kind of echoes of Second World War hedge-hopping really. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
And follow railway tracks from A to B. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
But there was the classic problem at the other end there, which was | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
that the button to put the wheels down was also electrically operated. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
So I clearly remember us cranking this big handle, which allegedly put the wheels down. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:01 | |
So as we came into land, we were staring out to see | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
if there was a shadow on the runway below us that showed we had our wheels down. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
It was like a prequel to the film Airplane, really, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
as we flew from A to B to C. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
In 1959, Stan was to get his biggest break to date as the compere | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
of the top-rated show on BBC television. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, it's The Black And White Minstrel Show! | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Though its blacked-up performers and dance routines may seem strange to today, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
The Black And White Minstrel Show was a TV phenomenon in its day, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
regularly attracting over 18 million viewers. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
'I was working in Dublin in the Theatre Royal and George Inns, who was the producer, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
'he was a radio producer as well, actually flew in to Dublin' | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
to watch the show and watch me work. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
He sort of booked me there and then after he had seen the show to appear in The Black And White Minstrel Show. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:01 | |
'I was with the show for nine years. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
'When you see The Black And White Minstrel Show, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
'you see the regimentation which the girls danced in, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
'the movements and the pleasure that it brought to the people that listened, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
'because if you sat and watched people looking at the show, they were getting pleasure from the show.' | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
'Black and White Minstrel Show did reflect variety at that time, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
'because you're back to singing, dancing and gagging' | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
and people dressing up. OK, they're making up heavily | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
with black paint and the rest, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
but that's not dissimilar to what was happening on the tours, on the stages, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
and in pantomime particularly. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
'The whole thing was a show, a proper show, and that required much, much dressing up.' | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
Stan did have a terrific break with the Black and White Minstrels, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
which we were all delighted about. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
In effect it was almost like a permanent job. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
'All he did really was his act and he did some stuff | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
'with the minstrels and being a musical sort of guy, that was fine. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
'He worked with people like George Chisholm and Leslie Crowther | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
'and people like that, but basically Stan did his act.' | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Performing his own routines in between the Minstrels' medleys, Stan was soon a household name. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-Hey, Ma? -Aha? -How about scratching my foot, Ma? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Sure! | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
Ha-ha-ha-ha! | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-Thank you kindly, Ma. -It's OK. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Now we're here, how about singing one or two love songs for the folks? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-Sure. -Are you ready? -Aha. -Yeah. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Fire on the mountain, wind's a-blowing, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
we're going nowhere, let's get going. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
# Shine on, shine on harvest moon... # | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
Would you like to come in for a cup of tea and that? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Well, I don't want any tea, but I'll come in. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Woo-hoo! | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
But Stan wasn't content with being a TV personality. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
He left the Minstrels to stake his future on his own business, Stennett Productions, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
returning to South Wales to take over the running of the Grand Pavilion Theatre, Porthcawl. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
I had been in the business long enough to realise that there is a market in South Wales, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
and especially a seaside resort, for a show of this kind. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
We're doing a big Minstrel feature in the show. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
We've got the Currie's Waterfall, which is a terrific spectacle in itself. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
We're doing quite a few different big scenes in the show | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
and we've got all these gorgeous girls, so what more do you want? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
I don't care if I do lose. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
I think Stan was very clever | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
getting involved in the production side and running everything, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
because it gives you control. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
That's been one of the hard things for comedians, particularly those who came out of | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
'the music hall and variety eras, they had very little control. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
'So I think Stan was very clever from the beginning, taking over.' | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
'I think he was his own man. He is very much his own man. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
'He knows what he wants' | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
and he won't be...he won't be told that he's got to go a certain way. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Once Stennett Productions service his passion for live performance, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
the attraction of television never disappeared. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Stan more than held his own with some serious straight acting roles, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
including a number of memorable performances in the BBC's peak-time drama series, Play For Today. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
So hold our heads up high with dignity. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
And be treated as people, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
instead of units of production. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
'He was a very good actor, Stan. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
'He did Play For Today, he did all these various things and came up with the goods. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
'He was a good actor | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
and people often say was variety a sort of inspiration or a help | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
as far as straight acting is concerned. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Well, it is in a way, because it make you fire out the front, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
it makes you over the top, if you like. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
If you've got the right character it's terrific. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
You know as well as I do, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
politics is the art of the attainable. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Throughout the 1970s, Stan continued to combine his theatre work | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
with frequent appearances on camera as a jobbing actor. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
So in 1982, when the Crossroads producers | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
were looking for a new lead character, Stan was happy to oblige. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
They were talking about a new character going into | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
'the Crossroads Motel garage. My name was Sid Hooper.' | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
What we don't want and what we're not going to have is people saying we're taking advantage. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
OK, so we may be using your money for starters, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
but I want it entered in here and now, right, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
that all the money it's going to cost to get this baby off the ground, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
we are going to have on paper split three ways and me and Mack are going to pay it back out of profits. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
Chancer Sid Hooper soon became one of the most popular characters in the show. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
-People used to stop you in the street, didn't they? -They did. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
And say, you know, "Why are you so horrible to Benny?" | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
'I used to try and borrow money off him, see, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
'and then the following week I'd be getting letters from people' | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
saying, "Sid, you leave Benny's money alone, right? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
"We know where you park your car." | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
And all this, threats, real. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
But it was Sid's relationship with screen wife Mavis | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
that captured the viewers' imagination. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
And in 1986, millions tuned in to watch her dramatic exit from the much-loved soap. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
Tell me about the famous scene with Mavis, when Mavis is dying. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Well, it was very sad, Kim, you know, we'd been married for many years, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
according to the script, and there was one time where we'd fallen out and we couldn't make up | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
'and eventually on her death bed she sort of brought this up. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
'And I was so sorry that I'd been... | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
'goading her, if you know what I'm saying.' | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Do you remember... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
how you walked out one day and left me? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Remember? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
How you didn't come back for a long, long time. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
Sid? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
'I had to try and get myself into the mood for that. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
'And I was just trying to think of someone' | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
that I had lost, you know, and everything. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
So that's the way I would have felt at the time. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Do you know what, I... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I nearly didn't have enough courage to ask you to marry me, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
do you know that? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
I had to pinch myself | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
and bring myself to asking. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
What do you think of that, Mave? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Mave. Mave... | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Stan spent the 1980s combining soap opera stardom with managing a string of theatres. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
And when it came to attracting talent to his stage, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
there were old friends that Stan could always rely upon. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
# Oh, you can't tell a waltz from a tango... # | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and go off. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
When Eric Morecambe joined Stan on stage in Tewkesbury in May 1984, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
it was going to be a memorable night for unexpected reasons. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
I remember at the beginning of 1984 | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I think it was that Stan had contacted Eric | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
to see if he would do like a Q and A to cover his life. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
It was about the time when Tommy Cooper actually had, he died on stage, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
as you know, in a show. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
We spent the second half of the show just doing a little bit of chat, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
like a Parkinson-type interview, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
you know, talking about the old days, about the gags we did and so on. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
We got talking about Tommy and Eric said, "Oh well, I wouldn't like to go, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
"I wouldn't like to die on stage", he said. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
I said, just as a quick retort, I said, "I've died on stage many times, Eric." | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
'Anyway, it was flippant in its own way.' | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
'And Stan took him over his life and my mother, she was in the audience, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
'and she said that Eric came out with things that she didn't even know about in his life.' | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
It was like this final surge, this blurting everything out about his life. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Really developing his answers in full. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
'And we played the Entertainer and Eric went round all the instruments, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
'doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that.' | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
Then he went off to his little Bring Me Sunshine dance and so on. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
And just, according to his chauffeur who was in the wings, Mike Fountain, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
he just sighed and said, "Oh, thank God that's over", | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
which could have been a reference to his life in a spooky kind of way. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
And he collapsed and his head hit the floor | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and he never really woke up from that and that led to his death later on in the night. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
The last 30 years have seen Stennett Productions' pantomimes continue to bring joy to thousands. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
And Stan is still going strong in his 85th year. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I'm here at the Dolman Theatre in Newport, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
where Stan is appearing incredibly in his 67th season of panto. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:02 | |
He's inside lacing on his trademark hobnail boots | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
in order to play the part of Billy in Red Riding Hood. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
-Good morning, Stan. -Good morning, butty. You all right? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
What's the attraction, what has been the attraction of panto for you? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
Well, it was, I felt it was a calling in a way. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Because you know, I like entertaining kids especially. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
And I feel it's a black and white situation with children, they like it or they don't like it. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
They laugh or they don't laugh. You can't say, "Laugh now and think of it later." | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
Adults tend to be a little more discerning, but children are not. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Which was the first panto, can you remember it? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Yes, at the Grand Swansea with Ossie Morris, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
one of the stalwarts in Welsh comedy many years ago. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
And it was, funny enough, it was Little Red Riding Hood. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Try it again, just try it once again. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
CHILDREN SHOUT OUT | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
We have to defeat an evil wolf. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
And Stennett Productions remains very much a family business. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Youngest son, Ceri, has never known Christmas without pantomime. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
After completing his apprenticeship backstage as a child, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
he's performed alongside his father for over 40 years. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
..Super human powers. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
We must protect Little Red Riding Hood, thwart the plans of the evil wolf. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
I think pantomime means everything to my dad, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
because he very early on in his career | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
started to learn the trade as a pantomime performer | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and he made that connection I think with the children as well then. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
CHILDREN SHOUT OUT | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
I can't believe he's 85! | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
I think he must be... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
eating something that is not available in the shops! | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
It's amazing. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
Hello! Well... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
Hello, butties! | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
-ALL: -Hello, Butty! | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
My father loves the fact that people want to see him and, yes, he loves being in the limelight. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:23 | |
He is a real ham. He is an old-school variety performer. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
I think my father's still performing at the age of 85, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
A, because he doesn't know what else to do, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
B, because he loves it and C, because he still thinks there's stuff left to do. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:41 | |
Have you been good boys and girls since I saw you last? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-ALL: -Yes! | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
And purely on the whole longevity of his career, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
he should be remembered as being a fantastic person | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
who has come out of that ancient era of music halls and variety and kept it alive for us. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
# Bring me sunshine | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
# In your smile | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
# Bring me laughter | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
# All the while... # | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
How could I retire? I mean, retire to what? You know, um, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
all right, take it easy, but I'm taking it easy now, really. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
No, no, I don't think I will be retiring. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
I'd sooner finish in harness, if you like. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
I don't want to retire at all. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
Every year he tells me, "I think I've had enough now." | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
And within three months he's planning the next. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
# May your arms be as warm as the sun from up above | 0:28:32 | 0:28:38 | |
# Bring me fun, bring me sunshine | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
# Bring me love, bring me love | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
# Bring me fun, bring me sunshine | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
# Bring me love! # | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
Eeeh! That's for you, Eric! | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 |