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I am Alex Polizzi. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
I cut my teeth in my family's international hotel empire | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
and now run a multimillion pound food business with my husband. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Last year I fought to save six failing family firms. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
This family business has actually ruined our family. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
'Now I'm back for a fresh fight.' Attitude, woman! | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Listen, I'm on your side. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
'To pull six more families back from the brink.' | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
-There's no communication. -You're going to quit? -Yeah. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
'In the midst of economic crisis thousands of firms are going bust | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
'every month.' | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Just in the last three months, you've lost about £3,000. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
I'm really struggling. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
'Everything is at stake.' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Where is the money coming from? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
It's more than finance. It's family. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Answer me a question. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
-You're not going to see any. -Everybody keeps pulling out. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
You're the lazy one. You do nothing! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I'm now dreading it, properly dreading it. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
'This week, a funeral directors that is heading 6 feet under.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
Excuse me, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
but this looks like somewhere to come for a cheap funeral. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I don't think we look cheap. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
'A dad who thinks he knows best.' | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
She wasn't here to tell us not to. So we've done it. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'Customer service that brings tears to your eyes.' | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
No! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
There's just a few more forms that we need filling out. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
'And lacklustre leadership.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Why is that acceptable here? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
I find you inadequate as a boss. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
I'm on my way to leafy Fleet in Hampshire, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
to attempt to fix a family business that I'm hoping | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
I won't actually be using myself for quite a while. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
FUNEREAL CHURCH ORGAN PLAYS | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I'm about to enter the world of funeral directing, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
one of the few industries in the UK that continues to grow and expand | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
in spite of the recession. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
I've had to do quite a lot of research and what it's shown me | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
is this is an industry that bucks all the current economic trends. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Revenues have grown 3% every year for the last five years. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
With a value of nearly £1.5 billion, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
the UK funeral industry employs nearly 25,000 people. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
However, the final nail is almost in the coffin for Holmes & Sons. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
We can go days sometimes without the phone ringing. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
A few weeks ago I think I checked the phone just to make sure | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
it was still working. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
David Holmes has owned and run Holmes & Sons Funeral Directors | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
for five years, but in that time he has barely made a profit. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Truth be told, I am probably a better funeral director | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
and a better human being than I am a businessman. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
David has been in the industry since he was a teenager | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
but as large conglomerates buy up the small independent firms, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
he is struggling to know what to do to survive. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
The bigger have got bigger and the smaller seem to be getting weaker. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
And I'm not sure we know how to fix that. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
I would be absolutely devastated if this business were to fail. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
He employs two of his children full-time in the business - | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
22-year-old Ollie and 20-year-old Toby. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
MUSIC: "Fix Up, Look Sharp" by Dizzee Rascal | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Who probably, more than anyone else in this business, cleans | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
the toilet or the windows or that kind of stuff? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-Me. -No, it's me! | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
But they're young and undecided and can't yet commit to the family firm. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
His opinion is, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
if you're looking down at your phone you can't be paying attention. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
But sometimes Facebook can be more important. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
No-one my age would think, "I want to be a funeral director, "there's got to be something else." | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
A job, really. It's a job. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Instead of working in M&S, I was stacking shelves, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Thorpe Park, it was roller coasters, here it's just dead bodies. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-Yeah, it's quite a scary thing to say... -Yeah. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
When you're 22, just saying... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
For the rest of your life you're going to be a funeral director. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
I think that would kind of depress me. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
David's dream is to pass on his family business. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
It's part of what you work for when you've got a small business. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
That maybe there's a chance of your kids taking over | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
and maybe having a good life from it. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
But if things continue like this, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
there won't be anything left to inherit anyway. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
David has run up an overdraft of tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
Everything is on the line here - my house, my reputation. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
Everything that I own. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
Unless things improve, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
I can't see the business being here in three months' time. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
At the moment there just wouldn't be any point in carrying on. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I've got only 10 weeks to make a difference and save the business. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
We're just round the corner from David Holmes & Sons now | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and I can tell you that just from a quick observation, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
this appears to be a very affluent area. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
It's leafy, the houses are big and they're well spaced apart. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Fleet in Hampshire is one of the most affluent towns in the UK, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
with earnings 40% above the average. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
30 miles from London, the area is crammed with luxury homes | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
and populated by professionals and executives. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
A business in a wealthy area and a growing sector. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Where did it all go wrong? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
FUNEREAL CHURCH ORGAN PLAYS | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Not quite what I was expecting. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Apart from the coffins, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
it could be... it could look like an insurance brokers or something. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
I'm not sure I am mad about this. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
"He loved to laugh. So we booked the comedy club." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It just doesn't mean anything to me. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
'This is the last thing you should use to promote such | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
'a sensitive service, especially to potential upmarket clients. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
'Time to meet the man responsible for this mess.' | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
-Nice to meet you. -David. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
-I'm Alex. -Yes. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
-How long have you had this business? -About five years. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
-And how long have you been in the industry? -I started as a teenager. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-So you've been in the business a long time. -Mm. -OK. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
And why am I here? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Because we're failing to engage with the local community. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
I just don't know why. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
He did for a while keep trying to put quirky things in the window. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Is quirky what you look for when you are looking for a funeral director? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Possibly... Possibly not. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
And I'm absolutely fascinated as to what these slightly dusty things | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
-are doing here. -Oh, dear. You've found some dust. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
These are scattering devices. So, for about, I think, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
-10 or 15 quid... -THEY SQUEAK | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-Yeah. -..you can have one of these. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
Put the ashes in, then put them back together, then go off | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and kind of more discreetly scatter the ashes... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-SQUEAKING -..whenever you like. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-Very discreet(!) -I don't think we've sold one. -Yeah, OK. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
As if dusty products weren't bad enough, grieving customers | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
are confronted with a rather chilling wall of coffins. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
The room for families to view their loved ones is cold | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
and uninviting. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
It's no wonder only one in ten of David's clients choose to use it. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
'Along the corridor is the dirty staff kitchen.' | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
I would be slightly disconcerted coming to see a body here | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
and being able to see into your kitchen area. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
'It's all disappointingly low rent. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
'Not the kind of place I would want my loved one to be laid out.' | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
'At least David's sons Ollie and Toby are making sure the hearse looks nice.' | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Alex. Hi, darling. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Do you think you're skilled at something, in particular, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
in this business? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
No way would we be in the funeral business | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
if it wasn't for our dad, not a chance. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
Some of the days when there's nothing to do, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
we leave feeling tired and sorry for ourselves. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Sometimes we say the most exciting thing | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
we've got to look forward to is lunch. And that's never a good day. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
No. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
'Both boys are thinking of walking away from the business. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
'David would lose the only thing that is attractive to customers - | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
'the fact that this is a family business. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
'I've got my work cut out to unite father and sons.' | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
I've got one more person to meet. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Sheena is the funeral home's manager and she has been working here | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
since they opened. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
She's not a family member but is a powerful voice within the business. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Bye. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Alex, this is Sheena. -Hello, so nice to meet you. -Hi. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
You must have an opinion as to why things aren't going the way | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
-they should here. -I do have an opinion. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
We can't afford to do every advert that's available to us. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
No, well, no-one can. Who can? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
-So, you don't think you're doing anything wrong in this business? -No. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-You think it's all financial? -I don't think we do anything wrong. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Not wrong, what I mean is, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
are there are things you could do better, maybe? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
No. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
'Stubbornly misplaced confidence is not going to help me | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
'fix this business. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
'And I'm sure the longer I spend here, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
'the more I'll find out is going wrong. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
'But to the customer, first impressions mean everything.' | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I don't think that the first impression that you give | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
is to your credit. It's a bit like an office suite. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
It's not very warm and it could be an insurance broker's office, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-couldn't it? -It's all right changing everything in here, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
saying what we need to change but it's getting them in first. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
-That's the thing. -Listen, sweetheart, I agree with that | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
but there's no point getting them in and putting them off. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-That's true. -So you have to work both angles of it. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
When you finally drag someone in through that bloody door, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
you have to make sure that the impression that they get... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
I mean, this looks like, excuse me, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
but this looks like somewhere to come for a cheap funeral. To me. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
I don't think we look cheap. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
It's like, "You look cheap and tacky," but we don't. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-Bit of an insult. -Yeah. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
She's not a funeral director and she's not used to showing people | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
in and out of a chapel of rest like you are or I am. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
She will have very decided opinions on what should be done here. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
But just a cursory look around this space shows you why this is | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
somewhere that people don't flock to. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
The shop needs a complete overhaul to make it fit for purpose. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
And we need to find a way to increase awareness of this | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
independent business, but the big question is | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
whether this funeral directors has a future as a family firm. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Time to start tackling the sons in Holmes & Sons. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Given a free choice, I would not employ members of my family. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
At the moment, Ollie and Toby appear half-hearted about the job, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
which could be severely damaging the business's reputation locally | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
and driving customers away. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
'But if the boys can really cut the mustard as funeral arrangers, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
'they could be a huge asset to their dad.' | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
It does say David Holmes & Sons. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
And I know that both of you are quite young, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
this isn't the profession that you've chosen | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
and I want to see how you're managing with it, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
as you find yourselves now. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
I'm sending in undercover industry experts posing as bereaved clients, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
to test the boys in this vital and difficult role. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
And secretly scrutinising them with me in the flat upstairs | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
is Charles Cowling, author of The Good Funeral Guide. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
This is the all-important part, I assume, of a funeral, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
the arranging part and the talking to the bereaved. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
It's absolutely crucial. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
It mustn't be a seemingly businesslike conversation. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
Although in the course of it, of course, business is enacted. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
During an arrangement, you're dealing with bereaved | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
and traumatised people. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
-Good afternoon. Hello there, I'm Toby. -Hello there. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
-Hello. -Hiya. -I'm Oliver Holmes. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
So it's essential to show real compassion and warmth | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
while at the same time making a sale worth an average £3,000. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
So, my Aunt Barbara died last night. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
We just want to make this really different and special for my dad. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
It's a good start - the boys are polite. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
It's the room that's causing a major issue. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
We've got a desk between the funeral director and the mourner. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
It's just dreadful. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
We're not having two human beings having a conversation, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
look at his body language! | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Compared to a normal standard coffin, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
it's probably about double the price so it's around £600. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
It's all form filling, no emotional connection. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
He's very focused on the costs of everything, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
rather than trying to create an imaginary perfect scenario. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
Certainly you would expect that this information would have to be | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
written down at some point, but that it would come at the end. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Many of the best funeral arrangers will sit there with the family and | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
the first thing they'll say is, "We're going to have a chat. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
"But we're not going to make any decisions at all in this first meeting." | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Of course, we make lots of decisions in the first meeting. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
We do lots of business in that first meeting. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
But the first thing is to take the pressure off people | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
and also make them understand they can go on changing their mind. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-To be confirmed. -Yeah. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Toby is about to face one of the real test of this job... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
..a client who breaks down. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Now it's up to Toby to reach out to his client to put business | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
aside and show some empathy. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
There's just a few more forms that we need filling out. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
Oh, no, darling! | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
Oh... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Oh, God, I can't even watch. It's so ghastly. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
And would anyone in the family or yourself like to view Belinda's... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
-Belinda? -Belinda, sorry, I do apologise, Barbara. -Yeah... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
He doesn't have... | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
He doesn't have the emotional competence to handle it. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-I feel quite sick. -I know. I agree with you. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Get to you... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
You need emotional intelligence, but you need emotional experience. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
You've got to have done the hard miles emotionally yourself. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-Thank you. -No, thank you, it's a pleasure talking. Thanks very much. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
I think they're so nice, these boys. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
I think they really need leadership. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
I blame David entirely for this situation, I want to make it clear. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
And if he's going to get his children ever to be customer-facing, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
they have got to do it better than this. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
'The situation is serious.' | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
It's clear that the boys have not been given enough | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
training or direction from David. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Weak leadership breeds a deficient team. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
'It's time for him to face facts.' | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
Nice and cosy. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
They were unanimous in agreeing that that set up is absolutely, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
to use one word, hideous. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
For someone who is recently bereaved, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
to come in, to be sat across a desk from someone, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
to feel that separation just when you need that warmth of human | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
kindness, and I'm amazed at you for having set it up like that. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
A couple of weeks ago we were looking at... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
But why has it been set up like that, darling? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
-You have the experience. -To be honest... -Come on. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
-I blame you for everything, by the way. -That's fine. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
No, let me explain to you why. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
You've got two sons here. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
They've never worked in another funeral directors, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
so they're doing things your way. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
And so I blame their failings on you. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
If you came in, Sheena and I are mature, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
we're able to put an arm around you. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
There is no way these boys are ever... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
But he's been running an office single-handed, darling. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
You're not there, you've trusted him to do it. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
We're slightly looking past the first point, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
which is getting them through the door initially. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
I'm not avoiding that. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
I'm saying, what's the point of getting them | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
through your door, if once they get to you... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Because honestly, I don't know... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
You've not had the real experience... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
I was asked to come in and deal with David Holmes & Sons, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
which is you four. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
If you want to take yourself out of the equation, please do, darling. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
But I'm being honourable and dealing with what I have in front of me. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Of course we have to get people through the door, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
but at the moment, it seems to me | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
that what you're offering is low value, in a way, funerals. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
What you should try and be is that up there that everyone is | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
talking about, that my God, if you want your funeral done properly, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
there's only one person to go to in this 20-mile radius and it is them. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
-That is what you want. -Exactly what we're looking for. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
It's been a tough few days for the family, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
and for Toby, the reality has hit hard. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
I hated it. I did. And it made me angry. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-And I don't want to be part of it any more. -You're going to quit? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-Yeah. -Unless Alex comes in and watches what we do, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
how else is she going to know how to fix the business? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
If you do quit, I think you're going to look a bit petulant, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
particularly as Alex doesn't feel there is | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
anything that you've done to merit, you know, walking out. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
So why do it? Why walk? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
I don't want to come across as a quitter... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
The truth hurts, but my mission is to engage David's boys, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
not force them out. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
However, David's dream doesn't just depend on the boys. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
First and foremost, the finances have got to be solid. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
I've worked hard to establish a business that hopefully one day | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
I could hand on, and at the moment it's hard to see that happening, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
because I'm just not doing well enough. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Unless we can make this work, there will be no future for the boys. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
Funeral directing is a unique profession, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
but it's still a business. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
-Hi. Do you want some tea? -I'd love one. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
'David is ultimately responsible for all the financial decisions, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
'so I want to know more about his attitude to money.' | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Is there anything about working with him that drives you mad? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
I call him Giveaway Dave, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
cos he actually does give away things that I would charge for. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
A lady wanted a casket and he just let her have it. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
He is quite a softy on those side of things. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
People often say, "You're an undertaker, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
"I don't know how you can bear to do that job." But the reality is, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
we don't deal with the dead, we deal with the living. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
I won't sit here and tell someone that, until they give me | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
a couple of thousand pounds, we won't be able to move. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
It's a very human business. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
David is generous to a fault. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
His business has potentially only weeks to live | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
and he is on the verge of killing it with his kindness. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-Sheena calls you Giveaway Dave. -She does call me Giveaway Dave. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-Which is not a compliment. -I am a soft touch. I can't help it. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
This warm glow about the heart that this generosity gives you is | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
not going to last very long when your business isn't here any longer. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Our kindness will ensure we are busy | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and if we are busy, we'll make money. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
Your reward may come in heaven but... | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
We are building our reputation. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
..I'm not entirely sure it will come on this earth | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
-unless you get to grips with it. -Well, to be frank, yes... | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
'But it seems David's inability to think through his business | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
'decisions knows no bounds.' | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
If I need a limousine out here, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
I have to book one often from London, which costs me £250. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
How much do I charge for a limousine? £190. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
I do that because the going rate for a limousine seems to be about £190. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
So, every time someone has an extra limousine, you're losing 60 quid. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-Yes. -Jesus Christ, darling. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
It's lucky you're not very busy cos otherwise you would be broke. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-Is that not how most people run a business? -No, it is not. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
You have said to me that the Co-op is more expensive than you. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Yes, they all are. All the local corporations. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
And yet that doesn't drive people to you | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-so surely that tells you something. -Probably it should have done, yes. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
'People buying funerals do very little price comparison | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
'so David's sell-them-cheap business strategy is fundamentally flawed.' | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
'He may be a kind-hearted man but he is clearly not a businessman.' | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
I obviously need to persuade David that there can be | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
a synchronicity between ethics and successful working practices. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
His business is suffering because of his morality at the moment | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and he has to see that the two can coexist. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Giveaway Dave's policy of offering funerals as cheaply | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
as possible is destroying his business | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
and it isn't providing a high-value experience for his clients either. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
I feel that the service that Holmes & Sons is offering is not | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
nearly personalised enough and it is completely lacking in inspiration. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
'I am taking the family to meet high-end wedding planner | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
'Siobhan Craven-Robins who has created events for Hollywood stars | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
'including Joan Collins and Greg Kinnear.' | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
I'm hoping that showing them how a really good wedding planner | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
does it will spark their interest in event planning, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
which is ultimately what they are there to do. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
'The funeral market is changing, with people wanting events that | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
'celebrate a life rather than mourn a death. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
'If the family offer more than just the basics, they will sell | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
'higher-value funerals, especially in their affluent location.' | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Right, so, what I am trying to do is get you away from only | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
doing the very cheapest side of the market which ultimately | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
doesn't generate very much income for you. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
One of the things I wanted to show you is these fantastic pics. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
When clients first come to me, the flick through these. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
These are all different weddings that I have done over the 17 years | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
that sort of show different elements of it. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
The idea is that someone then sees some element of that that | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
calls to them and transposes that into their occasion. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
Exactly. It just helps to give people ideas. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
What you're not doing is sparking people's imagination. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, you have sparked mine because I certainly feel, and you have made | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
me think, that you don't see what we give you until you have had it. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
By then, that is all very well for the people we have served | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and they go away happy but the new potential clients don't see that. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
Toby, what do you think? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
Yeah, I love the book. I think it is a really good idea. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
It is visual and it makes it very personal and so I like it. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
Sometimes, when a family comes in, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
they have already sorted out a venue so, you know, when I am | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
talking to families, I could actually say | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
half of them have already sorted out... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Darling, you know what, it's quite annoying | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
because I just feel like there is always an answer for everything. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
If it was all so bloody rosy in the bloody garden, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
I wouldn't be sitting around this table with you. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
What are you meant to do? Am I meant to say, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-"Actually, no, you can't...?" -No, darling. No. -There is more money... | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
No, I am suggesting that you have a way to show people options. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
'So it is not just David who has a problem making money | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
'out of this business. But I have a plan to help him | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
'increase his profits without taking the money from their customers.' | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Does someone, by booking it through you, pay a lot more than | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
they would if they were paying for it independently? | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
No, and I mean that is something that you should perhaps look at | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
with having recommended suppliers. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
They certainly don't pay any more and with some of my suppliers | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
they actually get better deals cos, obviously, like yourselves, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
I represent repeat business. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
'Negotiating commissions with suppliers will allow | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
'the family to profit from booking venues, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
'caterers and florists without their customers paying any more. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
'If the family can drive this idea forward then it is part of | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
'the solution to David's ethical dilemma.' | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I like anyone who has different ideas and is just showing different | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
things because it's worth a listen and worth a try. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
We are always going to be more open to ideas | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
because we are not as experienced | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
and as set in the traditional family ways as Sheena and Dad. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
The way it is being done is the traditional way it has always been | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
so, yeah, maybe these different ways are going to be the way forward. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
'David and the boys seem to be on side | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
'but there is so one voice of dissent.' | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
I mean, how can you compare a wedding planner to a planning of a funeral? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
Because they are both major events. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
They're major events but one has got a 60 grand budget | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
-and the other one hasn't. -It is still the same. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
You are still pulling together various elements, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
you're still advising. If I came to someone to plan a wedding... | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
We have already got a florist. We have already got... | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
But you have got it scattered around as | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
if it's been fired out of a shotgun around the office. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
She showed you all these elements in one book. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
You're focusing on the fact that she was a wedding planner | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
and you are a funeral director and you have got all the answers. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
I'm not saying I have got all the answers. They were saying, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
"You need to get your profit from people like the printers." | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Additional profits. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I mean, if you're a car salesman, when someone comes to talk to | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
you about a car, they call it taking you out of the market. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
You're in the market for a car, they are taking you out of the market. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
When someone comes in here, they are in the market for what? A funeral. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
But we want to take them out of the market for a venue, flowers, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
-catering, as many items on that list as we can. -We're already doing that. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
Are we? I don't remember seeing a cheque from a printer or a venue or | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
a caterer or a florist. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Where are all these commissions that you are earning? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
I give up. I think I do actually give up. I'm going out to the bin. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
-They don't exist. -Yeah, right(!) | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Sheena and my dad might be a little bit annoyed at each other | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
but I think that's | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
because they are always going to have different opinions about what | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
is going to be best for the company and where we have been going wrong. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
My dad and Sheena disagreeing shows that maybe | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
I'd be able to get some of my ideas in there, Toby would be. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
'Fresh thinking is what this business needs | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
'and action is something it needs even more.' | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
'I want the family to do the hard work for the customers, searching | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
'out the very best florists, venues and caterers in the area.' | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
Go into various businesses that might be useful for you, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
talk to them, see what trade discounts you can negotiate. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Remember that this is just as much for the benefit | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
of your customers as it is for you | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
and you shouldn't be embarrassed about | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
talking about money because that is, after all, the basics of business. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
'If the family can make commissions of between 10 and 20%, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
'this will add up, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
'potentially putting thousands of pounds straight in their pocket | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
'but Sheena looks like I have suggested they rob graves.' | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
You, get your... Come on. Attitude, woman. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
But, really, listen, I'm on your side. We are all on the same side. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
I am not against you, I'm with you. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Now, put a smile on your face and a spring in your step. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
For goodness sake. OK, go. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
'Negotiating deals with suppliers means a more complete | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
'service at no extra cost to the customer.' | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
-Hi, I'm Sheena from Holmes & Sons. -Hello, I'm Hazel. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
-I'm Oliver, this is my brother Toby. -I'm Jane. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
'The logic couldn't be simpler - if you promise a supplier more | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
'sales, they can afford to offer you a discount.' | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Money, how would that work? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
We are looking for foremost a good deal for us, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
a good deal for you, a good deal for families. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Ideally, what we'd like is to have a commission. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Yeah, that's absolutely fine. That's standard industry practice. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
See? Standard industry practice. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
'Clearly, Sheena still isn't enthused and I obviously | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
'hit a raw nerve by taking them to a wedding planner.' | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
We are quicker, we are better, we are bang, bang, bang, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
within five days we have organised an event. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Whereas she takes, like, two years or maybe eight months or whatever | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
and has a bigger budget so therefore it isn't the same. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
'But the boys are a different story.' | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
What sort of percentage discount | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
would you be able to help us out with? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
We'd be able to offer you a 20% discount on that | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
for all those customers. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
See? What you have to do is screw them down to it, ultimately. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
Everyone is looking for business. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
But, you know, that is, 20% is a significant amount. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
-Let's try somewhere else. -The one-stop shop. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
It's an idea that's going to fly, baby. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Hi, I'm Oliver Holmes and this is my brother, Toby, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and we're looking to build a relationship with the local florists. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
They seem to be doing really well and the more I see them, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
the more I'm convinced that what is really bad for them | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
is being stuck in that office without enough to do. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
They are so much better enthused and energised | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
and out and about and doing something practical. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
It's good for you guys, because, obviously, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
using the same supplier, you get 15% of whatever you sell, as well, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
so it's good for both of us, really. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
I think they need a lot more direction than they're being given, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
and they need to be encouraged to think on their feet | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
and do stuff like this. They're really good at it. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
It was really nice to meet you. Thanks very much for your help. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
No problem at all. Take care. All the best. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
'Now I just need David to grab the bull by the horns and lead | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
'his staff to get this one-stop shop idea going over the next few weeks.' | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
'But, a week after I leave, David amazes me with a decision | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
'that's shocking even for someone with his lack of business brain. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
'Rather than focusing on his sons' and my fix, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
'he's signed a ten-year lease on another premises. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
'He's opening a Holmes & Sons branch in Aldershot.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
We're now standing in the reception area. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
There'll be a wall here, very much like the Fleet shop, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
and in here will be the arranging office. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
If Alex didn't think this was a good idea | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
she could potentially walk away, and I think she is confident | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
about this business that she can help us | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
make the business successful. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
'He's put himself further into debt, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
'taking out a family loan to pay for the shop-fitting. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
'With his house and his business on the line, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
'I can only hope that he's put more thought into this than it appears | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
'as I'm back too late to change anything.' | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
We've got six months, we think, to make something happen there. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
-So, what happens, in six months can you give up the lease? -No. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
Oh. I'm just fascinated in the idea that you're not doing | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
particularly well, let's open another one. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
What market research have you done? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Just, erm... | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
We think we will be the only family business in that area, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
and we think that that is likely to attract people. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
But you're just basing this on hope. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
You haven't done any market research, you haven't... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
What have you done to base this on? It's just gut instinct. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
'The ten-year rental contract will cost David £80,000. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
'With a business already so close to the edge, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
'this is surely financial suicide.' | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
When my grandfather first opened a property, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
he stood in front of it and clicked every time someone walked past | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
so he could see what footfall was. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
That is the kind of market research that you need to do. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
She was like, "Oh, my God, you shouldn't be doing that." | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
And I'm thinking, "Well, why not?" | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
There comes a point when you're standing on the edge of that cliff | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
and you've just got to jump. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
I feel slightly depressed by how much | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
and how fiercely they defend their stupid ideas. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
They might as well be playing roulette. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
'If David won't focus on my fix and on ways to make money then | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
'there's nothing I can do to save this business. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
'What's more, his management style is making life even more difficult.' | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
I think my dad could do a better job of motivating. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
He's never told me, "I think you do this well." | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Which I think is important, to tell you what you do well. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
And he's completely forgotten about the one-stop shop. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Only Olly is doing anything about it. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
I could never picture my dad in a million years | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
doing anything like this. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:49 | |
He thinks it's probably more of a girl's job, so... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Did he have a task? He must have had a task. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
But, honestly, I'm so distracted by this, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
I can't even remember what we're supposed to have been doing. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
'I am increasingly losing my patience with David.' | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
-How are you? -Good. How is everything? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
I haven't really been here for the past fortnight. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
The boys have got on with the task. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
It's not difficult to have made that book, is it? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
-But you're the boss of the business. -Well, I do ask them how it's going. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
And have you told them to do anything? | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Have you directed them in any way? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
-Not really, no. -Oh, God. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
'If David wants to realise his dream of passing the business | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
'to his sons, he is doing absolutely nothing to help himself.' | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
You know, I feel frustrated on lots of levels. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
I feel frustrated with you as a boss because I think | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
if you have two young men here who are not experienced | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
in the business, they need directing. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
They need telling what to do. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
You need to find out what they do every day. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I find you inadequate as a boss. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
He needs to try harder, he needs to work harder, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
he needs to be more involved. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
I can't carry this. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
'David's crazy decision-making has left me dumbfounded | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
'just weeks before the relaunch, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
'and his unwillingness to properly direct his young staff is worrying. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
I have to shake some life into this reluctant boss.' | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
'I have got an idea that should inspire David. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
'A way they can build their reputation in the community which is | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
'perfectly in tune with his ethics.' | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Good afternoon, Holmes & Sons. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
'There are other ways to show you care | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
'than handing out free coffins, and David is missing a trick. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
'I want them to start their very own volunteering scheme.' | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
To which end, I had prepared this | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
for you to put names and phone numbers. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
What you're asking people to do is commit an hour of their time | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
to help someone who has been recently bereaved and to do | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
anything that they need to do, whether that is a chat, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
some gardening, or drive them somewhere that they need driving to. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
Frankly, I'd rather be painting. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:57 | |
I'd like to see you engaging with people. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
You know, you have to start from somewhere. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
'It's not the positive reaction I'd hoped for. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
'What David doesn't see is that a volunteering scheme | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
'will make them stand out from their competitors | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
'and gives a clear message of the business's caring principles.' | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
So, what we're looking for is people who are willing to give | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
perhaps as little as half an hour, an hour of their time | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
once a month or once every couple of months, just so we've got... | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
'What's more, it won't cost them a penny.' | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
I often think what would happen, you know, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
if I died, what would happen to my wife. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
It sounds a good idea to me. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
-I don't mind being on your list. -That's very kind of you, sir. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Yeah, good idea. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
When you said funeral directors, I didn't realise there was one | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
at the other end of the town, but we do now. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-Could we sign you up for that, sir? -Yes. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
It's just helping someone out, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:55 | |
another way of helping the community. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
-Is it something you would be interested in doing? -Yeah. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Brilliant. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Yeah, a few people that I care about have passed away, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
and if I can help I am happy to do so. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
'With a bit of effort, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
'they are really connecting with the community.' | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Initially, when we got out here, they seemed so unsure. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
They didn't see the validity of it, and also it didn't look | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
like they were going to give it any effort at all. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
I think it shows to them that ask, engage with people, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
and you will get a response. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
Something like this, I think, is fantastic. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
It's new, it should, you know, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
have a lot of interest in the town, hopefully. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
'And David's lead is inspiring the boys.' | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
I didn't think everyone would be so willing to get involved | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
but they seem more than happy to get involved | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
and put their names down, which is good. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
-We've only got two spaces. -Well done! | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
You might actually have the bare bones | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
of a volunteering service right there. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
'If David is to keep his business in the family, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
'I need him to keep leading by example, but there must be | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
'a deeper reason why he hasn't been pushing his sons harder.' | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
This business has potential as a career, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
but only if they're committed and interested. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
If they're not, then, quite frankly, I'd rather they went out there | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
and tasted the big, bad world and maybe realised how easy it was | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
when they were working in the family business. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
I don't want them to realise how easy it is. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
-I want them to have a bit more fire in their belly. -Yeah, I agree. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
I think you need more fire in your belly. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Well, I'm at the... I'm five years, six years into a very, very... | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
-Shitty time. -Yeah. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
I think that's something that you have to look at. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
It's very hard to say to people, "You need a fire in your belly, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
"you need to be passionate," when I don't think that you are. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
At least, you don't appear to be. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
'It's clear I need to help David rediscover his passion | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
'for his business, which is looking as tired as David sounds.' | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
'And to do that, I want to tackle one of the fundamental | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
'problems of this industry.' | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
-Death gets rather a bad press in this country, strangely. -It does. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
And, in some ways, you're selling the unsellable, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
and we need to find good ways to sell ourselves | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
and what the product is. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
'Funerals are a distress purchase. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
'The majority of people call the first funeral home they think of. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
'This is not a market that shops around for long, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
'which is why name recognition and branding are so important | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
'in this industry - both things | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
'I think Holmes & Sons have got very wrong.' | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
'I'm taking the family to see multi-award-winning agency GBH.' | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
'They've created branding for high-end companies | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
'such as Puma and Virgin. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
'They certainly know when a brand works and when it doesn't.' | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
We've actually come up with words that we feel accurately | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
reflects the way you are currently coming across. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
So, here's our handy device. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
First up, family business. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
That is a positive one. Next up, honest. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
-Good. -Also positive. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I feel bad news is coming. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
You come across as independent, but a bit isolated. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Use of inappropriate language. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Indistinct. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Low cost. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Inconsistent. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
Temporary. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
Sorry about that. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
And, finally, poor attention to detail. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
What are your thoughts about what we have to say about your business? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
Low cost - what would that...? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Well, the offer is coming across as fairly cheap. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
I hate that word. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
That's why they used low cost. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
They were being kind. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Poor attention to detail - if our image conveys that message, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
the very core of what we do is our attention to detail, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
so that is SO saying the wrong thing. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Actually, the reason I feel almost sick about the fact | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
that we've allowed that to happen, if we can't be good with our own | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
attention to detail, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
can I trust them with something as important as a funeral? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
-That's the danger, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
At least now we all agree on the negatives we can take it forward | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
and we're in a position to actually do some good work now. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
-This is the past. We must move on. -Swiftly. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
'Now the penny has dropped, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:26 | |
'is David ready to tackle the very long-winded name of his business.' | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
David Holmes & Sons Independent Family-Owned Funeral Directors | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
and Monumental Masons. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Quite a mouthful, isn't it? | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
We need to, at least, have a look at simplifying | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
what you're putting on the front of the shop. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
We thought we'd throw it over to you and say, do you need the "David"? | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:40:49 | 0:40:50 | |
-No. -No. -That's what I said, didn't I? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Let's do a vote. "David" - thumbs up or down? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
"Monumental masons"? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
-"Sons"? -I think get rid of "Sons". | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
What do you think - "and family"? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
That gives a bit more leeway | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
for any of you who come and go into the business. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
-"Sons" down? -The sons can go, yeah. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Gosh, unanimity. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
-Holmes and Family Funeral Directors - I love that. -Right, good. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
I like it. It's much cleaner. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
'It's a breakthrough, and it's not just the name | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
'that's going to change. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
'The agency are also going to help rebrand the look of the whole shop.' | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
To me, it's like where have you been all my life? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Just so, so excited. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
'I'll sleep soundly in my bed tonight knowing that these guys | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
are thinking about how to put Holmes & Sons across. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
I think they're buzzing. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
When Alex first came to us and she said, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
"It's cheap, it's this and that," | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I can actually say it is. It's cheap. It's rubbish. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
It was so easy and obvious to see once they put it up there | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
how bland and uninspiring it was. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
This was a very good day. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
I think we're all agreed on that. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
But one big question still remains - | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
are Toby and Olly any more committed that they were? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
I think the inside of the windows need a bit of a clean. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
When I first arrived, the boys were disengaged | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
and David's leadership was doing nothing to change that. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Tomorrow, we'll probably give the whole hearse a polish. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
It's always been David's dream to keep the business | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
in the family when he retires. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
It would be better to lose the family from Holmes and family | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
than to keep employing two sons who don't want to work there. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Originally, when I went into the funeral business, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
to me it seemed the most exciting thing in the world. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
I couldn't wait to get to work in the morning. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
It's not that I'm not interested in funerals, it's just... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
I have lots of interests. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
I want to pursue other things, possibly, as well. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
And we would be daft to say we love it or enjoy it | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
as much as you when you've done it for the period time you have. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
Olly has been offered a place on a teacher training course | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
and has to make a decision whether to accept it | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
within the next few weeks. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
Toby has potential, but has always seemed reluctant. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
The thought of being in the same | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
job for the rest of your life scares me. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
You feel, hang on a second, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
I'll maybe do it when I'm older. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
Will they still be here in a year's time? The answer is, I don't know. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
I would be really sorry to see either of them go. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Things can't carry on like this. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
The uncertainty is having a negative impact on the business | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
with all three of them just coasting along. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
It's time they made some decisions. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
If I put a gun to your head and asked you to say, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
what would you advise them to do? | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
Yeah, I would rather they stayed and made a go of it. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
I'd rather we all made it work. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
David is never going to get this sorted of his own accord, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
so I've told the boys to think through their options. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
If they decide to stay, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:09 | |
then David has got to invest in training them properly. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
If they don't, David's dream to pass his business to his sons is dead. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
I would like to try different things and see what sticks | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
or see what I enjoy. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
I think the thing I enjoy about here is working with you | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
and working with Olly. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
So, working at another funeral director's, I probably wouldn't... | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
I don't think I'd enjoy it as much. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
And I think it will benefit me to go away and see different things | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
and learn new things and try out different experiences, I think. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
My plan next year is to go away travelling. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
You know, it's been good to have you. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
I feel quite relieved to have aired it and told my dad about it all. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
And, definitely, being honest about everything is a good thing. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
It's not something we do enough, be honest with each other | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
and sit down and do a very simple thing and just talk. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Olly is David's last hope. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
If he follows his brother, then the family will be gone | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
from Holmes and Family. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
It's a very tough decision deciding what to do. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
Um, I don't want to feel like I'm dependent on the family still, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
which feels like you never really left home. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
I feel like I've got a lot to offer here. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
I've got lots of drive, and if we can help the family name grow, | 0:45:54 | 0:46:01 | |
I'd like to stay. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
I think it's absolutely fabulous that you've made that decision | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
and, for what it's worth, I think this is the right thing for you. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
-I really do. -Surprising, I was astonished. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
I genuinely believe that, if I were run over by a bus tomorrow, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
that you are capable of running this business. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
I have been thinking it might make sense for me | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
to take a bit of a step back and drive the hearse or limousine | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
and you to be doing the conducting. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:27 | |
So, you're the one that's introducing yourself | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
to the family on the doorstep, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
you're the one taking control at the crematorium, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
because I think it will make you feel more responsible. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Yeah, and that sounds good to me. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
A new era dawns for the family business. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Now father and son can move forward together as a committed team. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
That's really good to hear. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
It's not very often that I hear much praise from my dad. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
It was nice to sit down and hear him say nice things. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
It was nice to hear him | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
talk fondly about what I can do for the business. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
It was nice to see a smile on his face. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
I think having a decision from the boys is really good. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
To know that Olly really seems to be now committed | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
and wants to make a go of the funeral industry | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
and the family business is really nice. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
I think Olly is more and more convinced | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
that this is what he wants to do. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
It makes me care even more about giving him something to come to. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
Changes afoot at Holmes and Family. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
In collaboration with the branding agency, I've put | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
a plan in place to transform the look and layout of the shop. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
It does feel like a new beginning. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
The painting feels symbolic. It makes it feel more like a rebirth - | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
a fresh start. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
We're done with this. This is the old Holmes & Sons. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
Since deciding to stay in the business, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Olly has pushed forwards with the one-stop shop idea | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
and is finally negotiating deals with suppliers | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
and starting work on the book of inspiration. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
But some people still need further convincing. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
I thought we were talking positively about the book. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
Yeah, but that's for you. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
You can talk whatever you want about the book. I don't care. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
-I think the idea is... -How are you going to present that to a family? | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
You don't present it to them. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
You just leave it there and they can have a look through it. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
-I know my florists... -That's not cos I don't know them. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
I don't need the book to help me, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
a massive book to aid me with my ideas. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
-But that's what you're doing. -But it's not to help me. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
-Who's it to help, then? -It's to help families. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
If you remember rightly, that wedding planner said, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:45 | |
"Have a conversation with them." | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
Mmm. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
Say this is a book and you're a family. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
I'm not going to go, "This is a very good book that I did. Have a look. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
"I'll see you in half an hour." | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
But at least the arguments | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
aren't stopping the work on the shop being completed. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
I'm coming back to Holmes and Family to see the new-look | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
shop in person for the first time before it's relaunched. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
'When I first visited Holmes & Sons, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
'I was shocked by their depressing, cheap-looking exterior.' | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
This is a change. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:26 | |
'Now, the shop front is both eye-catching and understated.' | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
I am hoping that this is going to make people stop and look. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
It's a much smarter exterior. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
Well, doesn't this look better? | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
A waiting area that does not shove coffins down your throat | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
as soon as you walk in. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
Inside, the space is calming and reassuring. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
I don't think anyone could take exception to this. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
In the arranging room, the barrier between arranger | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
and client has been removed. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
What they will need to do is concentrate on people | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
and leave all the paperwork to the last minute. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
This is obviously a much better set-up. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
So, what do you think of the transformation? | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
I think it's brilliant. I think it's very good. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
The best thing is the layout of the office, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
cos the first thing you see when you come in is a nice, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
welcoming environment, come and have a seat, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
rather than a desk and chairs. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:31 | |
I can imagine someone walking in and us saying, "Take a seat. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:36 | |
"Have a cup of tea. Don't feel that it's a formal environment, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
"that you're the other side of the desk." I completely get that. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
You've taken us up market. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
I notice that Trouble over here is staying very silent. Let's hear it. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
-Let's hear it. -I do like the colour. -But... | 0:50:49 | 0:50:55 | |
I like my coffins on the wall. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
-You mean you'd like to see more death about the place? -Yeah. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:02 | |
-Yeah. -I think the point is that I haven't done this | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
with my thoughts about whether you're going to like it or not, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
and I thought about the customer. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
And I'm hoping that this is a way to make them | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
feel like they get a cut above. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
They're now perfectly set up to attract customers from this | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
affluent neighbourhood. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:22 | |
They have a new look, a new name and, hopefully, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
a new-found enthusiasm. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:26 | |
It's time to relaunch Holmes and Family within the community. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
The family have decided that the best way to demonstrate their caring | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
values to the local community is by holding a balloon | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
release in memory and celebration of local people loved and lost. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:44 | |
Both previous and potential customers have been invited. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
It gives us an opportunity to hand out some of the lovely new | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
Holmes and Family postcards. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:55 | |
It gives us the chance to talk to everybody talk about | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
the volunteering scheme, and gives us | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
the chance to celebrate together how far we've come. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
This time, it's up to Olly to take the lead. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Afternoon, everyone. Thank you very much for coming. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
I'm sure you know why we're all here - | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
to remember someone we've lost close to us. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
So, if I could invite you all to help yourself to a balloon | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
and we'll follow the band down to the park. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
BAND PLAYS JAZZ | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
They've organised a funeral march with a difference through Fleet, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
a fun way to bring everyone together, which will also make | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
people in the community aware of who they are. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
It feels like the whole of Fleet has come out to see us pass | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
and the band is attracting attention. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
Holmes and Family are on the map at last. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
Even Toby's Facebook status may be useful at last. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
The balloons that the family have organised each represent | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
a loved one that has passed away. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
An event like this shows the community that Holmes | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
and Family care about the living, as well as the dead. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
Thank you all for coming. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
It means so much to us | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
to have Oliver committing his future to the business, which is terrific, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
to know that the business will go on another generation. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
We're here to release these balloons in memory of the people we've lost. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
The people we're remembering tonight and it's not a miserable occasion, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:49 | |
it's a happy occasion, because life is all about celebration. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Remembering the best times and the happy times. If you're ready... | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
CHEERING | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
I like the personal touch. Very important. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
Especially when you're feeling very vulnerable. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
You want to know that you're going to be cared for | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
and it seems that's what this company does for you. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
Sometimes, when you grieve, people don't want to talk to you cos | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
they don't want to say the wrong thing. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
It's quite nice to get together to talk to one another | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
because everyone's grieved. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
We're all in the same boat. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:34 | |
You do have to think about doing something like this annually. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
It becomes so much a part of the community life that you're | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
the automatic thought when people have a bereavement. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
They come to you because they've heard about you, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
they know about your event, they've done fundraising. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
They've seen it in the street. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Anything that you do that is out of the office has a value. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
There's so many things that we can get on with now that will make a difference. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
Especially the branding. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
The shop front, the community project, the volunteering. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
They're all such good things that will help us | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
build a good relationship with the people of Fleet. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
I think what Alex has done for me is having that courage to step | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
away from the desk, out of my own environment. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
We don't have to be a big corporation to do a big event. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
We can do it on our own strengths. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
I'm determined to make this business successful and see it grow. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
I think it can because we've got the right people | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
and the right systems now. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
We can't bury Giveaway Dave. I think he'll always be there, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
because there will always be people that just don't have the money. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
But, at the end of the day, we do need to pay the bills | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
and it is a business. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
Some hopeful talk, but I can't deny this has been a bumpy ride. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
For a large part of this, | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
I felt there was enormous resistance that I was working against. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
It's been quite a frustrating experience, if I'm honest. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
I feel like there's a lot more we could have done | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
and all I can do is hope that they've taken on board | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
the advice I've given them, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
and that they're going to put some effort onto it. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
I pin my hopes on Olly, frankly. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
Four weeks later, they've had enough time to find out | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
if the changes have actually helped the business. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
I think a lot more people have got to know us. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
People have been coming in talking about the new shop here. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
-Hello! -Hi, David. -What do you think of the new shop? -I'm loving it. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
Holmes and Family have seen a 30% increase in bookings, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
which is subsidising a slow start to the Aldershot branch. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
This is a reception area. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
We open a new branch, you never know what's going to happen. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
We're confident. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
Proving Alex wrong. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
You can't expect everything to change overnight. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
I think everybody's reluctant to change generally in life. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
If we don't like it, then we won't do it. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
It's much easier to keep doing things the way you've always done them. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
I don't think he'll turn into a different person, no. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
He's probably stuck in his ways. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
I remember you. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
However, the family are making slow, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
tentative steps forwards with the volunteering scheme. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
-What jobs would you say you're able to offer? -Any DIY job. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
They're really nice. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
And the one-stop shop. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
The big news is Olly's role is much more concrete in the firm. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
-First time in your life. -My own business cards. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
The person who's changed the most has been Oliver. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
His confidence has clearly grown. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
It's forced him to step up and become more responsible. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
Holmes and Family means everything to me. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
Now I've chosen to carry on, it feels like it's going to be a career for me | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
rather than a stop-gap. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
This is something I really do a good job with. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
And David's passion for the business seems to have been reignited. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
My feelings have certainly changed towards my job. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
I can remember thinking I had passed my peak maybe. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
Now I feel my best days lie ahead rather than behind me. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
The future of the family business looks safe. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
So, you're confident, happy? Everything's under control? | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
I can see Oliver taking over and becoming a career funeral director. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:33 | |
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