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Gillian Carter lived a quiet life in rural Wales. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
And her case is proving a difficult one for the heir hunters. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
The maternal family is looking quite tricky. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
It's a long shot, I think. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Just check. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And a second case begins with a tragic accident. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
It was quite a shock. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
I don't actually dwell on it because what had happened to him, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
it was pretty serious stuff. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
It was something that none of us had really thought would happen. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
It's all in a day's work for the heir hunters. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
In the London offices of heir hunting firm Finders, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
case manager Amy Moyes and the team | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
are starting work on a new case just in. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
I am working on today's BB ad. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
It's one of the ads from today's list. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
It's the estate of the late Gillian Margaret Carter. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
We are just looking for information about relatives and family. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Gillian died unexpectedly of a heart attack aged 72 | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
on the 7th December 2014 | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
in the small Welsh village of Llanddewi-Brefi. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
She called Wales home for 15 years | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
after moving from her hometown in Warwickshire. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Here, the residents of the village are proud | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
of their rural way of life. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
It's a very different pace of life to city life. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
It is slower. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
It's friendlier. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Living in a village, people need connections with other people | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
because otherwise life can be isolated. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
I think we have still got quite a good community spirit. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
Although Gillian had friends in the village, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
nobody knew of her family. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
It is the heir hunters' role to find any living relatives. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
I have been taking a look at close family. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
She was probably married, but may well be divorced, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
and we can see that she appears to have bought property on her own | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
rather than with a partner or husband. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Gillian owned her property in Wales when she died. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
This will make up part of the estate | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
that Amy is hoping to pass on to her family. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Gillian Carter was in fact married and later divorced. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
She had no children. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
It looks as though she is probably an only child, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
so I have moved on to maternal and paternal family trees. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
One thing that has struck Amy as unusual | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
is that both of Gillian's parents appear to have died on the same day. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Amy's ordered more certificates to help complete the picture | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
of the maternal side of the family tree. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Initially, the maternal family is looking quite tricky, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
so I'm going to leave that side for now and focus on the paternal side. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
The surname on this side is looking quite interesting. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
It's the surname of Boycott. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
So that would appear to be Gillian's maiden name. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Searching for people called "Boycott" in the area, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Amy has found someone she hopes could be a first cousin - | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Hello. This is a message for Mr David P Ratcliffe. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
My name is Amy Moyes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
It would just be ideal if I could speak to someone | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
who is of the same generation as the deceased | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
and fill in the family tree pretty quickly by speaking to them. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
Amy has a team of travelling researchers on standby | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
all over Britain, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
waiting to meet potential heirs face-to-face | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
to gather more evidence. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
A lot of times, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
people don't know who the deceased is or know very little, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
why they actually knew the deceased | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
and knew the whole family background. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
But until she knows where to send them, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
she has to wait for someone to call back. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
It could be the one you found. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
If I can find her with a family, then you know she is wrong. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
She has now enlisted the help of fellow heir hunter Ryan Gregory. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
They want to reach potential heirs as quickly as possible | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
before a competing heir hunting firm has the chance to sign them up. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
Ryan has been looking into another stem, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
another paternal aunt - a lady named Dina, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
who actually appears to still be alive. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
She would be 100 or 101 years of age. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
So what we're trying to do is Ryan is trying to see | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
if she's got any children we can speak to first | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
rather than make direct contact with her and upset her | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
or cause her any distress. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
We are actually looking into the Boycott family tree today. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Do you recognise that as your mother's maiden name? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
And it looks like Ryan has finally got through to a potential heir. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
Right, OK. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
It is actually in relation to a cousin of yours | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
who has sadly passed away. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
Her name was Gillian Margaret Carter. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
I tell you what we would like to do | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
is ask one of our local representatives | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
to maybe come and see yourself and Dina | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
so we can take her through the paperwork. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Ryan's call has brought some interesting news. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
As it stands, we've had a chat with a few potential heirs | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
or their children. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
It's sounding as though the paternal family at least | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
were certainly aware that the deceased had passed away | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
and that they were taking steps to deal with her estate themselves. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
So it may turn out that services of companies like ours | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
might not be necessary here | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
and there could have been just a slight delay in them | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
dealing with the estate, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
which is why it has ended up with the government legal department. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
So what we're going to do is keep going with the research | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
until we've spoken to everybody involved, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
get a full picture of what the actual situation is | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
and take it from there. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Amy's company can only help any heirs they find | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
if Gillian Carter left no will. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
And now, this is in question. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
One week later, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
there's been a development in Gillian Carter's case. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Since I last took a look at the Carter case, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
we've made a bit of progress with finding out about | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
the potential will from speaking to some more of the paternal heirs. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
It sounds as though there certainly was a will | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
and that the Carter estate was almost certainly left to a charity, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
but for one reason or another, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
the will has been proven to be invalid, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
and that's why it's ended up on the Bona Vacantia list. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
So what all of that means | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
is that we're now back at dealing with an intestacy | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
and we're looking at the maternal and paternal trees as we were. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Since we left off, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
I've managed to speak to most of the paternal heirs now, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and if I hadn't spoken to them, they've all had some paperwork. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
The majority of those paternal heirs have signed up with us, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
so, really, the paternal side is quite safe now, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
just one or two outstanding issues. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
And we need to then take a look | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
at the maternal family tree, the Franklins. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
We don't have as many signatures | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
on that side of the family tree as of yet. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
With the green light to continue | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
the search for heirs to Gillian Carter's estate, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Amy's sent out travelling researcher Parmjit | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
to meet a potential heir face-to-face. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
He's heading to Gloucestershire to visit Nora Boycott, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Gillian's aunt, who goes by her middle name, Joan. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
She's the sister of the deceased's father, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
who's nearly 100 years old, I think. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I believe she's 99 years old. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
And we're going to see her, together with her son | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
in relation to this matter. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
What I'm doing today is, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I want to research the full family tree with her. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
I've got the details as far as we've got, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
so it's a question of really going through with them | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
to make sure we've got all the details of all the relatives | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
and go through the family tree. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Good morning. Good morning, John. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
I was very surprised, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
because I'd spoken to Gillian on the phone | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
on the Saturday evening of 6th December | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and then on the Sunday, another cousin of mine rang up | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
to say that Gillian Carter had died | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and I sort of said, "That's... I'm really shocked, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
"because I've just spoken to her last night", | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
and he said, "You're probably" - she lived on her own - | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
"the last person to have spoken to her." | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
And I had to sort of sit down for a few minutes, because, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
I said, well, I'd only just spoken to her the night before, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
so it was a surprise. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
This is my mother. Hello. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Joan Butler. Nora Joan Butler. Hello, Joan. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
I've come just to discuss the family tree, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
to make sure we've got all the details that we need | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
for the relatives. OK? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
I've got too many! Too many. Too many. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
So, we'll start... That's Gillian. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Who's passed away. Yes. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Then we've got another sister called Marion Beryl Boycott. Yes. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
As far as... We are happy. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
Otherwise, that side of the family tree is fine. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
As far as I can see, yes, it is. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Parmjit's visit to Joan and John has proved successful, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
and has provided more clues to Gillian's life. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
It's also solved the mystery | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
of the joint date of her parents' death. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Gillian's parents were going in early December... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
They were going off to buy Christmas presents and a van driver | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
came on the wrong side of the road and just hit them head-on. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
He was badly injured, but they were both killed pretty well outright. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:50 | |
So that was a real blow for Gillian and her husband. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
Sharing such sad news, John's not only been able to paint | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
a fuller picture of Gillian's past, but the visit has also proved | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
crucial in helping to complete her paternal family tree. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
In the Birmingham area, Keith, another travelling researcher, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
is on his way to visit one of Gillian Carter's cousins | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
on her mother's side. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
The heir hunters have had no luck tracking him down on the phone, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
so Keith's hoping to catch him at his home. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
This is not looking particularly hopeful. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
There doesn't appear to be any vehicles on the drive | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
and it looks a little bit locked up and secure. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
But we'll make some enquires. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
On closer inspection, it appears no-one is home. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
You say he's deaf, is he? Yeah. Does he live on his own? Yeah. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
As a result of a visit to the neighbours, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
they can confirm that our gentleman does live at this address. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Unfortunately, he's in his late eighties and he's deaf | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
and he probably is in, but will not hear us. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
He has relatives that call on a Saturday who live in Shrewsbury, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
so what I'm going to do is, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
with the permission of the neighbour, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
leave them the visiting letter | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
so that when they see the relatives at the weekend, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
they'll get the relatives to contact the office. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
So things are beginning to take shape, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
but there's still work to do. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Slowly, Gillian Carter's family tree is beginning to grow. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
The 1911 census reveals that Gillian's grandfather, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Edward Henry Franklin, enlisted with the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
one of the elite regiments of the British Army, in 1884. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
This was during the Anglo-Egyptian War | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
between Egyptian and Sudanese forces. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
The British Army moved into the Sudan | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
following threats to Khartoum. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Only the capital remained in Egyptian hands, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
with about 15,000 European and Egyptian citizens. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
Gillian's grandfather, Edward Franklin, would most | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
likely have been amongst the troops deployed to a troubled region. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
In fact, that relief force arrived two days too late. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
The city had been... The siege had been successful, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
and the whole town had been laid waste. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
After this tragic event, Edward Franklin would most possibly | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
have remained with his regiment. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
The Camerons complete a tour of duty on the frontier until 1887. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
They return to Britain for several years, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and then are sent to Gibraltar and Malta. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
And it is from Malta that they are called back to Egypt | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
at the end of 1897. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
By this time, Edward Franklin had married Mary Morrison, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
and they had started a family together. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Gillian Carter's mother, Margaret, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
was the youngest of their nine children | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
and was born in 1912 in Birmingham, after her father had retired. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
Back at the office, there have been further developments. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
After much in-depth research on the case, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
news has arrived which changes everything. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
Since we put the claim in with the Government Legal Department, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
we've heard back from them, and unfortunately, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
they have written to say that a subsequent will has come forward. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
This one does appear to be valid. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
A situation like this is obviously very disappointing for us, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
we've spent a lot of time and effort and also, um...money, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:35 | |
in doing the research, contacting heirs that are | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
probably not now entitled, but we work on all sorts | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
of different types of cases, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
and this does happen from time to time. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
For the cousins, however, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
it's not the money that was important, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
but their fond memories of Gillian. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
I got on quite well with her, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
she was quite a pleasant person, you know? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
The search is on for unknown heirs | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
of 68-year-old Robert Joseph Bradley, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
who spent most of his life living in the seaside town of Margate. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
A pillar of the community, bachelor Robert, known as Bob, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
ran a local pet shop, served as a beach warden | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
and was later curator of Margate Museum. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
But he was best known for his hobby, judo. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
We never quite understood Bob. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
He was a friendly guy, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
but he stayed and lived with his mother as long as I knew him. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
He was very focused on judo when he came out, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
but all the time he was down in Margate, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
he was focused on the beach and his pet shop. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
He was a great, great fellow. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
You had to take him for what he was and by his own admission, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
he was only interested in what he wanted to achieve. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
He wouldn't consider being married or settling down | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
or compromising his outlook on life. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
With judo, he decided that he wanted to go as far as he could with it. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
He was very good at throwing people | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
who were not only his own weight, but above it. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
He was European Champion, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
he was National Champion for year after year. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Bob was very close to qualifying for part of the Olympic team | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
and had there been enough finance | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
to send both the openweight and a heavyweight, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
I think Bob would have been in the team there | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
and he would have contested for medals in the Olympics. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
But after a hugely successful sporting career, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Bob Bradley met an untimely death. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
In a shocking accident in his home on 6th May 2014, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
he fell through rotten floorboards. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
I heard about Bob's death. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
A mutual friend phoned me up and told me. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
But it was on the news as well. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
It was quite a shock. I don't actually dwell on it, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
because what had happened to him was pretty serious stuff. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Bob's friends shared their pain at his loss, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
but Bob had no relatives that they knew of. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Whenever we talked about family things, as you do when | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
you're going away, he just simply said, "Oh, I never see anyone." | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
And that was it. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
As Bob died with no known family, his case was referred | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
to London probate genealogists Fraser and Fraser. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
She can do a marriage search, same as we can. We might be lucky. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
There are only two Robert Bradleys born in 1945. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
One of them was in the March quarter | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
and we can kind of disprove that immediately, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
because our deceased was born in November. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
So we've got one in the December quarter, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
which then gives us the mother's maiden name as Swift. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
So we can then follow that up, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
follow it onto finding the parents' marriage | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and perhaps double-checking whether or not he had any siblings. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Bob Bradley's family tree was beginning to come alive. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
We found a Joseph R Bradley marrying a Rose Swift | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
in December quarter 1932 in Willesden. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
We thought the "R" would be for Robert, the deceased's name, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
which later turned out to be true, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
so from that point of when that marriage occurred, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
we would then look for siblings of the deceased. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Bob did have an older brother, Michael, who sadly died in infancy. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
He had also lost both of his parents many years ago. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
So with no living immediate family, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
the team had to widen the net on their search. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
This would point them towards aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
Yeah, 19 on the '11 census. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
Ben's starting point was Bob's grandparents on his mother's side, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Lily James and Richard Charles Swift. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
They married in 1902 in Camberwell. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
Next, to find further details of Bob's family, the search turned | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
to the 1911 census, which revealed his grandfather's profession. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
We located the family and the father, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Richard Charles Swift's occupation, is listed as fruiterer. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Life in London in 1911 was tough, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
and the Swift family at that time was listed as a large one. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Records show that Lily James and Richard Charles Swift | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
had six children, born between 1901 and 1914. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
Lily Swift, the aunt of the deceased, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
she married a Charles Periton in 1922 in Willesden. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:42 | |
They, shortly after having their first child, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
they emigrated to Canada. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
In the '20s, aren't they? Yeah. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
With part of the family scattered as far away as Canada, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
the team still hadn't found any heirs in the UK. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
Bob's uncle, Charles Swift, was the key. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
He had married a Rosina Elizabeth May | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
in 1929 in Paddington, London, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
and records revealed that Charles, like his father, was a greengrocer. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
Rosina and Charles Swift had one son, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
John Richard Charles Swift, born in 1935 - | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Bob Bradley's first cousin. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Alive and well and living in Oxfordshire, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
the team had found their first heir. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
I never knew Bob Bradley because he lived in Margate. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
He never really kept in touch with the family | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
and they never kept in touch with him. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
So he was just a mystery, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
he was just a complete and utter mystery to me. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
Although John didn't have a relationship with Bob | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
when he was alive, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
family ties have left him feeling inextricably linked to him, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
and news of his death came as a dreadful shock. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Surprised, because he was a lot younger than me. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
I wish now that I'd known him, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
because he seemed like quite an interesting guy, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
one way or another. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
I might have seen him when he was a babe in arms, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
but that's all I can remember. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Bob and John may have been first cousins, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
but their life paths couldn't be more different. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
While Bob was running a pet shop, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
John Swift had begun his working life in the family business. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
I was working in a greengrocer's shop when I was ten. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
And I worked with my father... | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Then and as far as I can make out, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
my father, my grandfather | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
and most of the Swifts were all in business one way or another. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Basically, they were in the fruit and veg business, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
but...if a little deal came up for something else, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
it wouldn't be sniffed away. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
Of his uncles and aunts, it was John's father's brother, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Uncle Jack, who was the most successful. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Jack was a sort who'd have a crack at anything. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
He was a gambler. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
When I say a gambler, not necessarily with money, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
but he would take chances with things, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
you know what I mean? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
And do anything to get a few bob. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
I know he had a friend who was a bookmaker's son or something | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and Jack said he went to help them at the racecourse one day. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
And when he saw the money that could be made making a book, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
he decided that's what he wanted to do. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
That's what Jack did and he did it well, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
when he opened one of the country's first betting shops | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
in London's Mayfair when they became legal in 1961. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
Swift would've identified somewhere like Piccadilly | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
as being a central area | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
amongst a lot of working class, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
because the working class worked in these areas, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
they didn't live in these areas, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
and he would've identified that as a good central area | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
to have a shop to attract business. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Jack Swift's empire flourished | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
until he had about 20 bookies around London. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
But as his star was rising and the money rolled in, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
he never forgot his family. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Jack was very good to me. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
He gave me a lot of work when I was a cab driver doing different things, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
running him about, you know, all over the place. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
When my dad died, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
I had three kids and I was struggling a bit, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
you know, mortgage and all that, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
and he was talking to me and he said, "Are you managing?" | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
And he gave me 50 quid. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
And that 50 quid, in those days, got me out of trouble. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
I never, ever forgot it. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
Jack had one son himself, Brian Charles Swift. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
We found a marriage to a Loretta Breasley. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
They have a total of three children. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Loretta Breasley was the daughter | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
of legendary Australian jockey Scobie Breasley. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
The union of bookie's son and the daughter of racing royalty | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
raised more than a few eyebrows. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Jack Swift, his son's profession as a jockey | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
and the marriages that his family made, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
which actually elevated him into a racing set, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
which was much more middle-class than working-class. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
With his business booming, Jack's friend William Hill, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
who had not been so bold as to take his bookmaking business | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
out on to the high street, made an offer to buy Jack's shops. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
It was an offer that Jack couldn't refuse. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Swift was the pioneer and took the risk. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
He felt that the bookmaking industry, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
licensed bookmaking was going to be successful, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
and it took a long time for William Hill | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
to make the decision that he was going to go the same way. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
By 1966, his 20 shops and his business | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
was sold to William Hill in its entirety for ?850,000, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:49 | |
which, in today's money, equates to close to 15 million. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
But it wasn't all good news for Jack Swift and his family. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
In 1985, his only son Brian died suddenly of a heart attack | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
aged just 48, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
leaving three children, all potential heirs, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
who at first couldn't be traced. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
One of them had quite a unique name and once we followed that up, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
we found all three children living in Australia. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
When we located the three Australian heirs, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
it took the number of heirs on the maternal side to 12. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
With all living heirs on Bob Bradley's mother's side | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
of the family now accounted for, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
it was time to turn to the paternal family tree. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
This is a bigger challenge | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
simply because there were more aunts and uncles to descend on this side. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
Bob's grandfather, Charles Bradley, had married Bob's grandmother, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Mary Ann Hopkins, in 1888. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
They had nine children over a 24-year period, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
including Joseph Robert Bradley. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
So when we had completed our research into Charles Bradley, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
the paternal uncle of the deceased, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
um...it had almost doubled the amount of heirs | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
that we already had from the maternal side of the family. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
But as Bob's paternal family tree continued to reveal itself, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
a further ten first cousins came to light. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
We were just finding heirs left right and centre. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
And these heirs were spread all over the globe. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Let's just have a look on another system, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
just to make sure. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
With Ben's team hard at work, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
an heir closer to home had been found. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Bob Bradley's uncle Harry had six children. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
His son, Peter Bradley, Bob's first cousin, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
was alive and well and living in Kent. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
My memories of Bob are very small cameos. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
We used to take holidays, we had a couple of holidays in Westgate. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
On one occasion, we stayed with Aunt Rose | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and we played in the garden. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
And then I saw him on another occasion on the seafront | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and we played in the sand together. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
And that was really the last time. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Um, that was it, really, basically. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
And then they just disappear, you know, you go from your memory | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
and you get on with your own life. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
With so many years having passed since they last met, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
Peter was surprised to hear he was entitled to a part | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
of his late cousin's estate. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
When I heard of the circumstances of his death, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
it was tinged with a bit, quite a lot of sadness, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
because, you know, all right, you're going to inherit some money, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
but it would've been much nicer to think that I'd come across him | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
in passing and met up with him and spoke to him... | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
..that type of thing. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
With the final piece of the puzzle | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
that makes up Bob Bradley's family tree in place, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Ben and his team's job is done. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
So the case of Robert Joseph Bradley was really interesting. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
There were many heirs all around the world which we had to trace. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
We found 35 people entitled to benefit | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
and the estate at the end was worth ?125,000. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
So, this is where it is... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
Today, Peter and his son, Matthew, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
have travelled to Bob's hometown of Margate, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
to his beloved judo club, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
to meet his friends and find out more about their long-lost cousin. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
Certificates, trophies. Oh, I bet you've got a few of those. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Yeah... Where is he there? There he is. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
That was at the Ramsgate club... | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
The ethos of our sport, and he took on board so strongly, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
was that you could compete with anyone of any standard | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
and if you behaved yourself properly, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
you looked after them. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
You see he's wearing a black belt there, don't you? Yeah. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Well, he got higher than that. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
He got to 7th dan eventually. Seven dans... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
When you're refereeing, you don't expect the referee | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
to be cracking jokes, but he was always... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
He got into trouble with the authorities | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
quite a number of times, cos he wouldn't stop cracking jokes. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
It was lovely to see how loved he was... | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Yeah. ..and how well-liked and how many friends he had... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
That was one of the most important things, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
discovering his humour. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
It brings our family back together again, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
even though we were separated through just...life, really. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
You suddenly realise that family is important | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
and everybody should look to their family. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
It's always nice to remember them and know what they did, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
because there's a lot of missing links out there. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 |