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Today, our heir hunters cross the water and travel to foreign shores. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
So this is what I've got so far. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
This is from the information that we've been given. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
The first case is riddled with unanswered questions. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Has anything in your searches so far indicated the name Shearer? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
-I didn't find one. -OK. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And the second sees a transatlantic race to trace heirs. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
Suddenly, this had become an international competition | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
that had moved from the west coast of the United States | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
to the northwest coast of England. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
It's all about getting to the root of the problem for the heir hunters. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
We'll have to work on this and unravel the whole mystery behind it. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
Sometimes, a case comes in that takes an heir hunt overseas | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
in search of crucial records that can only be discovered in person. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Today, Daniel Curran, MD of London-based heir-hunting firm Finders | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
has travelled to Guernsey on the trail of the case | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
of retired clerk Joan Mary Wootton. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
Joan was born on the Channel island on the 18th of February, 1927, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
and died aged 88 of lung disease in the spring of 2015 in Norfolk. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
She was a really nice lady, very quiet and she liked company | 0:01:25 | 0:01:31 | |
and she liked to chat and we always used to stop and speak to her. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
Leaving no will | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
and featuring a few weeks previously on the Government's Bona Vacantia, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
or unclaimed estate list, Daniel has limited information regarding Joan's life. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
Our first stop is really to try and identify her birth record. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
The records for Guernsey are not online, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
they're only held locally in Guernsey, so we have to get in touch | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
with our researcher here and then try and work on the family tree from there. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Research is still done the old-fashioned way on the island, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
which means thumbing through birth, marriage, and death records. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Daniel's on his way to meet Susan Illey, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
a local researcher, who's working on Joan's case for him. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
It's not going to be an easy one to crack. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
It could be a long haul | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
to find any members of her family that could still be alive. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
In London, senior case manager Ryan Gregory has also been | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
looking into the case. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
Can you help me with the... Just one stem. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
I think there's only... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
But with very limited research that can be done online | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
for records in Guernsey, he doesn't have much to go on. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
But there have been enough clues to get the team going. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
So I've got the advert from the Bona Vacantia list from the day that we opened the case. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Now, there was quite a bit more information there | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
than there usually is in a lot of the cases they advertise. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
She was a widow, so obviously we knew we were looking for a different | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
surname rather than Wootton for any records going further back. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Ryan hoped that Joan's maiden name might provide clues to her | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
life story and lead to her heirs. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
On the advert we were told that the deceased's maiden name was Le Tissier-Shearer. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
Now, when that sort of information comes in to us in the office, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
we're wondering, is this an hyphenated surname? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Where has the actual surname come from? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
The initial government advert for Joan's next of kin to step forward | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
to claim her estate threw up some more interesting | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
details about her life. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I found out that she was living with a gentleman called Roland Wootton. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Now, using that information | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
and going onto the Marriage Index we have available in the office, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
we could find their marriage and | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
we found out that Joan married under the surname Shearer. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
With the heir hunters' search covering so much ground, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
it makes sense to kick things off on the island where Joan was born | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
to learn about her early life. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
And with three surnames listed for her, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
there are already a lot of question marks. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Well, we've got to consider here that there could be an adoption maybe. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
She's got a hyphenated name, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
previous marriage...? Maybe she's even informally | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
used the name Shearer, so we'll have to work on this and see | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
whether there is any meaning behind this hyphenated surname | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
and unravel the whole mystery behind it. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
So we'll have to get down to the record office and see if there's | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
a copy of Joan's birth certificate here that we can work on. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Guernsey's a tricky place to conduct research in, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
mainly because they hold all their records separately to the rest of the UK | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
and none of their records are online. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Daniel's arrived at the Greffe, the central records office | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
at the Royal Court of Guernsey, to meet researcher Susan. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Located here since the early 1800s, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
the Greffe is home to all of the island's birth, marriage and death records | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
and Susan has found Joan's birth record. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
-So we know she was born in 1927 and here we have her, Joan M... -Ah, OK. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
..Le Tissier. Which is a good Guernsey name. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Born on February the 13th, so now we need to look in the register. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
-18. -Number 18. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
So now we can see her parents were Walter Le Tissier and Florence Lydia Quentin | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
and they lived at the north side, in the Vale | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
and her father's occupation was coal heaver. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
With Joan's parents' names, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
the next step is to find details about their marriage. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-We'll look for a marriage in the indexes, prior to 1927... -OK. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
..when Joan was born. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
-Careful as you go. -A rickety, rickety spiral staircase. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-So, what do we have here? -This is the Marriage Index... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-Right. -..from 1919, when registration, civil registration began. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
This manual searching is like a treasure hunt. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
One clue leads to another and having found Walter and Florence's | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
marriage listing, Susan can quickly find their marriage certificate. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
This will be the key to unlocking her past | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and to starting her family tree in the hope of finding her heirs. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
So we can see they got married on Boxing Day in 1925 | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
-in the parish church at St Sampson. -Right. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Water was 32 and Lydia 24. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
With confirmation that Le Tissier was Joan Wootton's maiden name, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
there's still the question of the other name she had listed, Shearer. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
So, has anything in your search so far indicated the name Shearer? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
I did look for a marriage for Joan, but I didn't find one. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
The trail leading to answers about Joan Wootton's former name | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
may have come to a dead end, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
but with Walter and Florence's marriage certificate found, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Ryan had more fuel to fire his search in the London office. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Using the names of the parents that our agent was able to provide us, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
we could then go back and look at the census records for Guernsey. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
That is one of the few sections of information | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
we have available to us in the office. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
So we were able to identify the fact that Joan's father, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Walter Le Tissier, was one of four children | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
and Joan's mother was actually one of five. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
So we were researching as much as we could with | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
the information on the 1911 census for both the maternal | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and paternal families, when Susan in Guernsey managed to get some | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
very important information over to us. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Susan had news which would lead them | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
one step closer to tracing Joan's heirs. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-I've found three siblings, all girls. -Mm-hm. -Sisters of Joan. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
Here we are. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
-So, Doreen May, born on the 25th of September... -OK. -..in 1932. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
-Same parents. -Yep. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Daniel and Susan found Joan's second sister in another | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
record book upstairs. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Ruby Rose, she was born on May the 6th, 1936. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
There was one further child, she was born in 1941, Valerie. Valerie M. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
So Walter and Florence Le Tissier had four daughters over a 14-year period. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
Joan Mary was the eldest, followed by Doreen May, Ruby Rose and Valerie Maud. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:27 | |
With three siblings discovered, this could mean potential heirs | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
and Susan has homed in on one of them. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Well, I picked up on Ruby because Roselle is her married name. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
It's quite a Guernsey name and I do know several people with that surname. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
So I spoke to one of my colleagues, who actually knew her. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
-She was his auntie. -Oh! | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
And he told me that she'd died in the UK, in hospital, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
and he was able to share with me her children's names, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
so that then allows you to do the contact. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-And they would be heirs to this... -Potential beneficiaries, yes. -OK. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
The benefits of a small island have provided Ryan | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
back in London with his first invaluable lead in Joan Wootton's case. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
So, with the information that Susan was able to provide us from her | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
research in Guernsey, we were actually able to make a contact, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
initial contact with one of the family members | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
and the entitled heirs to the estate, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
so they are one of the children of Ruby Roselle and really, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
that was the key conversation to unlocking the rest of the case. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
We found out that there was seven heirs in total, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
five of whom were still living on the island of Guernsey. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
The intricate pieces of the puzzle that made up Joan Wootton's life | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
were beginning to assemble. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
But there was one vital piece of information still absent. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
There was always a question that was making us a bit wary, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and that was, where exactly did the surname Shearer fit in? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Was there going to be an adoption that would make all our heirs | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
no longer entitled? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
With the worry that all their hard work so far might have been in vain, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
the team were keen to get to the bottom of the mysterious surname. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Those five years... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
For children who went away as slightly older children, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
it changed their lives. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
Because they came back... Either they didn't come back, or they came back | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
and they didn't... Some of them didn't even recognise their family. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
The length and breadth of the country, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
heir hunters are turning detective, creating family trees | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
of people who have died with no next of kin and leaving no will... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
..in a quest to track down heirs of their estate. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Hello? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
The case of Susan Watson is a particularly sad and interesting one. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
Susan was raised in the quiet village of Leasowe, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
on the northern coast of the Wirral Peninsula in Cheshire. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
After graduating from Edinburgh University in 1973 | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
with a first-class Honours degree in biological sciences, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Susan emigrated 5,000 miles away to Oakland in California, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
where she worked as a biological scientist. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
She had a real sense of fun and adventure, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
was an intrepid traveller and a keen cyclist. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Tragedy struck when Susan was cycling home from the office, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
just before Christmas 2013. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
She was knocked off her bike and killed by a truck. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Susan was just 62 years old. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
The dreadful accident was covered by a local news station. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Susan was doing everything right, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
she was she obeying all the laws, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
she was riding a bike, wearing a helmet, she probably had, like, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
14 lights on her bike because... She was an amazing person. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
A memorial bike and ferry ride was held in Susan's honour | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
by her friends in the Oakland cycling community. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
But since she was British, her case came back across the pond | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
and was taken by Saul Marks, case manager at heir-hunting firm | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
Celtic Research. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
This case came to us from an associate company | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
who we work with in the United States. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
They referred it to us in the hope that we could find heirs here in the UK. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
The American firm had told us that Susan seemed to be an only child, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
she didn't have any children of her own and they found her parents | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
and grandparents on the maternal side. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
She had been living with a man in the United States, but they didn't appear to be married and as such, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
he didn't appear to have a claim to her estate, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
so it was up to us to go and find cousins who were | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
living in the UK or elsewhere who would be the rightful heirs. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
We couldn't find a birth listing for the deceased, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
and when we've got information to suggest who the parents are | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
but there's no birth listing, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
it usually suggests that the person is adopted and we did | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
a search of the adoption register and sure enough, there she was. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
And we obtained a copy of the adoption certificate | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
and it proved that she was the adopted daughter of Isabelle Davie and George William Watson. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
Although Saul discovered that Susan had been adopted, the news didn't | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
change the heir hunter's job when searching for her beneficiaries. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
After the Adoption of Children Act, which came into force in 1927, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
everything changed for adopted children. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Well, what this means is, that once a person is formally adopted | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
after 1927, is that they gain all the legal | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
and inheritance rights of the family which they are adopted into. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Records revealed that Susan's father, George, passed away in 1966, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
when Susan was in her mid-teens, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
leaving her mother, Isabelle, to raise her on her own. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Isabelle never remarried and passed away in 1998. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
So with no siblings or children for Susan, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Saul knew he had to search for aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
All potentially her heirs. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
The next step for me was to go to Liverpool Register Office | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
and get a copy of the marriage certificate of Susan's parents. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
This gave us their ages at marriage, which allowed us to find them | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
both in the 1911 census. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
The census is invaluable for genealogists, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
as it records each person living in a UK household | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
including their ages, jobs and relationships to one another. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
The 1911 census showed us that Isabelle had an older brother | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
named Gordon Davie who was Susan's adoptive uncle. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
So if he had any children, they would be heirs to the estate. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Sure enough, he had two children. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:44 | |
They were both alive, so we were really happy | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
that things were starting nicely. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
Things may have been off to a good start for the first two heirs traced. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
But unfortunately, they weren't in the bag for Saul. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
It transpired that Gordon's two children, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
who were Susan's first cousins, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
had actually been approached by a rival firm of ours | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
here in the UK, which meant that our American associates | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
had obviously got rivals there who had referred it our rivals here. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
So suddenly, this had become an international competition | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
that had moved from the west coast of the United States to the northwest coast of England. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
Susan's two cousins were the only heirs | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
on her mother's side of the family. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
So the race was now on for Saul to track down and secure any heirs | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
on her father's side, before his competitors got there first. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
In order to start our work on the paternal side of Susan's family, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
we went back to her parents' marriage certificate. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
We were then able to use the 1911 census to establish that | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
George William Watson had actually had two younger sisters. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
And the parents of those people were Jane Watson and George Watson, a stonemason. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:56 | |
Records also showed that Susan's great-great grandfather, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
John Watson, was also a stonemason | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and further research into census records between 1841 and 1871 | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
uncovered that her father's two brothers were also in the trade. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
In the 19th century, stone masonry often ran in families. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Stonemasons at that time would have been probably working as families, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
like, father and son would more than likely work together, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
possibly even grandfather, father and son could have been a combination. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
The Watson family would have done jobs such as work on buildings, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
works on churches, memorials... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
A master stonemason would have also done carving work as well | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
and would have been very well respected in his time. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
The craft was a very skilled one | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
and would have taken many years to master. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
He would have left school as early as 14 | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
and gone straight into the family business and, yeah, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
you would have done the very menial jobs and then they'd let you | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
on the tools to do very basic sort of jobs... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
..to do with masonry. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
And over the years, you get more familiar | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
and your skills would develop over time. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
What a master stonemason will have done, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
after his stone has been prepped by the apprentice, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
all the detailed stuff. So, like, when you were carving flowers, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
for instance, the form around the globe would have been removed, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
ready for the master stonemason to go in and carve the flower. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
The job was expert and creative, and definitely not easy. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
We are now at a stage where it is getting a really good shape to it. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
It won't be long until I get on to the decorative sort of phase | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
of this, but a bit more work to do on all the drapes. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
I do think that being a stonemason back in 1880 would have been | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
a very difficult job, hard labour. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
You would have calluses on your hands, definitely. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
And it would have been hard graft. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Today, power tools make the physical part of the job easier, although | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Simon still uses traditional tools in his artful work as a stonemason. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
So the Watsons appeared to be a close-knit and hard-working family. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
And the next step for Saul was to work his way up | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Susan's father's family tree. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
A search of the marriage register showed that John Watson's son, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
George, Susan's grandfather, married Jane Parsons | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
in Chester, in 1898. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
They had three children. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Susan's father, George William, and his sisters, Olive Jean | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
and Queenie Elizabeth. All born in Peckforton, in Cheshire. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
If Susan's aunts had had children, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
this would potentially lead Saul to her heirs. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
The first line we looked at was that of Olive Jean Watson. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
She married Arthur Green in 1922, in Nantwich. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
And they went on to have six children. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
She had her first child when she was just 20. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
She had her last child when she was very nearly 42. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
We then delved into the family of Olive Watson and Arthur Green, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
in the hope that we might be able to find some heirs on this branch. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Their eldest child was also named Olive, but she was known as Betty. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
And she had three children, who we visited and they signed with us. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
The next child of the Green family was George, and he was known as Ike. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
And he had quite a number of children, from whom there were | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
seven heirs, who, again, we were able to visit and write to and we signed. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Having had a bad start to this case, where the first two heirs who | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
we spoke to had actually been contacted by a rival firm, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
it was a great relief for us to actually find heirs who hadn't been | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
contacted by the competition yet, and who were very willing to sign with us. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
This change of fortune had led to ten heirs of Susan's estate, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
but this was only the beginning. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Basically, it was a complete surprise, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
because I didn't know of her existence... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
..prior to the phone call. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
Each year in Britain, thousands of people are taken by surprise | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
when they receive an unexpected visit from the Heir Hunters. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
You tend to sort of think to yourself, "Well, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
"I'm not sure if this is real or not, so it was quite a surprise." | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates on the Government Legal Department's | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
unclaimed estates list. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
The first case is Ernest Walker, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
born on 15 March 1913 in London. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
He died on 2 November 1992, aged 78, also in London. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
Ernest's father, Ernest Jones, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
worked as an electric bus driver in 1913. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Next, it's the case of Robert David Twigg. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
He was born on 23 May 1943 in Selly Oak, Birmingham | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
and died on 24 January 2011, when he was 67 years old, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:20 | |
in Solihull, in the West Midlands. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
On his birth certificate, he was named as Robert David Zweig, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
but it is not known when his name was Anglicised. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
If you think you may be related to either of these people, you would | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
need to make a claim on their estate via the Government Legal Department. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
And if you ARE their next of kin, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
you could have a windfall coming your way. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Heir hunters firm Finders in London are searching | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
for beneficiaries of the late Joan Wootton's estate. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
She was born on the Channel Island of Guernsey in 1927, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
and sadly passed away in Norfolk, aged 88, in 2015. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
I will miss Joan terribly because I used to see her every single day. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
And when I walk down the road, I miss her, you know, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
miss going into her bungalow, because I did it every day. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
And she was a really kind, lovely lady. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
With extremely limited online records | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
available for the islanders, Daniel Curran has travelled | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
to Guernsey to meet researcher Susan Illey, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
who has been looking into Joan's case. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
So far, she's come up with some strong leads, which have given | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Ryan in the office a springboard to create Joan's family tree. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
But there's still a vital question unanswered. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Why was Joan Wootton, whose maiden name was Le Tissier, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-also known as Joan Le Tissier Shearer? -We still had a massive question mark | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
over the surname Shearer. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
If this was due to an adoption or a form of marriage, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
we could be looking at completely the wrong family, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
or there may have even been children from another marriage that we | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
weren't picking up on. So, optimistic, but very wary. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Joan's name certainly became a sticking point in her case. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
But as time moved on, new evidence did come to light. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
It transpired that Joan had to tragically flee her home, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and her family. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
As World War II engulfed Europe, German forces occupying France | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
set their sights on the Channel Islands. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
And in 1940, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
Joan's family made a life-changing decision for their eldest daughter. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
Joan was just 13 years old. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
We understand that Joan was actually evacuated from Guernsey | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
on the eve of the Nazi invasion of World War II. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
In June 1940, a year into World War II, the Channel Islands became | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
the only British territories to be occupied by the Germans. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Almost half of Guernsey's population of 40,000 were evacuated to | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
England, Scotland and Wales. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
They were mainly young children, some mothers and teachers. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Molly Bihet was one of the few to stay on her island home. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
When the Germans came in 1940, I was almost nine. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I remember that very, very well, of course. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
At the evacuation time, I can remember my mother being | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
so worried sick. We were crossed with the | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
so many people wanting to get away. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
It was a really horrid time. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
So we came back eventually, and my father said, "Well, we will stay." | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
He said, "If the Germans came, the Jerrys came, then I'm not moving | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
"for them. I was born in this house, and I'm staying in this house." | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
And he did. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
Some children stayed here, young children stayed with their parents. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
We were farming, so we stayed as children here, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
here in the occupation. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
But it wasn't an easy decision when the schools were going | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and urging their children to go. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Not long after the last boat taking evacuees to the | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
safety of the mainland set sail, the island was bombed. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
The Germans wrongly believed lorries laden with Guernsey tomatoes | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
ready for export were military vehicles, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
and dropped their bombs, which killed 33 islanders | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
and injured 67 more. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
We were terrified. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
My mother just grabbed us and ran into the house opposite | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
where we lived, where they had a cellar. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
We were just sat there, huddled up, just frightened. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
-We could hear the noise, the shouts. -With that bombing, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
we knew an occupation was imminent. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
And it was on Sunday, June 30, two days later, that the | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Germans arrived here at the airport by plane. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
For the next five years, everything changed for the islanders. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
Most of their children were gone, including young Joan Wootton, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
and they were living side-by-side with German soldiers under fear, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
-rations and curfews. -Well, the Germans were everywhere. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
They were in the streets, they were shopping, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
they were taking most of our food. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
And the Germans requisitioned properties. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
You had 24 hours to move out and take whatever you had with you. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
After Joan left, her family, too, had to leave their home. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Well, we know from the records, from the registration records, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
that they were moved from where they were, St Sampson's, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
to 8 Summerfield Road, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
and that was obviously because the Germans needed St Pete... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
St Sampson's harbour as their defensive harbour, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
to bring in supplies. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Joan's sisters, Doreen and Ruby Rose, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
were too young to be evacuated, and the sister she never knew, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
Valerie, was born almost a year after she left. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
For Joan's father, Walter, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
life was tough looking after his family under German occupation. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
He was only a humble coalman. He had to work very hard. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
There was less of everything. Rations went down. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
You had to improvise with substitute foods. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
We used to use carrageen moss from the sea to make a sort of jelly. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Acorns to make coffee, parsnips to make tea. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
The end of the war finally came in 1945. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
It was a jubilant day for the islanders. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Since six o'clock in the morning, we could see these boats | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
in front of Herm, just by the harbour. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
So my mother, my sister and I, we dashed off and we ran | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
as fast as we could. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
And we got down to these 22 soldiers, marching, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
bayonets, tin hats. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
All smart, rifles, and we just loved them, kissed them, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
cried with them. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
We just had to just love them and cuddle them, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
and they were crying with us. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Soon after the war, the evacuees began returning to Guernsey, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and the Queen and King visited the island. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
But there are no records of Joan coming home. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
And if she ever did, she didn't stay. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
And by the time the war finished in 1945, she was then 18 | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
and she would have perhaps have adopted parents, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
where she was evacuated to, who looked after her, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
and she probably took a job and went on from there. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
So, Joan's life continued away from her family in Guernsey, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
and it was perhaps the family who took her in as a 13-year-old evacuee | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
who would provide the answer to the puzzle of her surname, Shearer. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
It is possible that she took the name of the family that she | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
stayed with. I've seen that quite a few times. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
OK, well, that's something we'll definitely have a look into, then. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
And in the office in London, Ryan received a document which | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
seemed to confirm this. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
One of the few certificates we were actually able to | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
order from the office, being an English record, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
was actually Joan's marriage to Roland Leonard Wootton. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Now, as soon as this came into the office, we were actually able to see | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
that Joan had listed her father as Francis Linden Shearer. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
Now, this really went a long way to solving the riddle of where | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
the Shearer name came from. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
With just the information on the marriage certificate to go on, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
it wasn't enough for us to say either way | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
whether Joan was actually just | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
fostered by Francis Linden Shearer, or whether she was fully adopted. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
If we had found that the surname Shearer was relevant, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
perhaps by an adoption, then it would have meant we would | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
have been looking at... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
tracing members of the Shearer family. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
And that, in turn, would mean that everything | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
we had done in Guernsey, all the family members | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
we had traced there, they would no longer be relevant to this intestacy. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
Further information suggested that | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
although Joan did name Francis Shearer as her | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
father on her marriage certificate, there was no formal adoption, so her | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
seven blood relatives from Guernsey were still her beneficiaries. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
With this confirmation in place, Daniel is on his way to meet | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Joan Wootton's niece, Kay Leslie, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
daughter of her sister, Ruby Rose. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
-Kay was born in 1960... -Hi. -Hello, Kay. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
..20 years after her aunt, Joan, fled her home of Guernsey. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-So, your mother was Le Tissier at birth? -Yes. -OK. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
I can remember my grandparents vaguely, her parents. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
And if we can... We work, we have an online system... | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Kay may have distant memories of her grandparents, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
her Aunt Joan's parents, and although she wasn't born when Guernsey was under | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
German occupation, she does have a knowledge of those turbulent years. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
As a writer, she's covered those bleak times. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
Those five years, for children who went away as slightly older | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
children, it changed their lives, because they came back. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Either they came back, or they came back and some of them | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
didn't even recognise their family after five years. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
You know, growing up without any contact at all. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
And I always thought that was really poignant. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
-And, of course, the big shock was I'd written those pieces... -Mm. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
..completely unaware that I had an aunt, who went through exactly that. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
-Exactly the same thing. -I wouldn't judge Joan at all. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
She didn't have that tie with Guernsey, through her childhood. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
The family had been through really hard times for those five years and, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
-hopefully, she had found something that was comfortable and secure. -Mm. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
And to think that somebody who was such a close relative | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
had survived for a long period and had died only recently | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
and we didn't know about her. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
This might be nice for you, actually, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
we've got some photographs. This is from friends of Joan. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And, apparently, this is the lady herself, this is your Auntie Joan, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
-as a young lady. -That's making me go a bit shivery, actually. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Because it suddenly becomes very real, doesn't it? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
Oh, she looks like Doreen, my mother's older sister. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-She looks really like her. -Definitely one of the family, then? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
-Yeah, very much so. Yeah, I can definitely see that. -Yeah. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's fantastic to be able to put a face to the name. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
My personal reaction to hearing that there was an aunt, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
who I'd never known, was a sadness. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
To think that, until fairly recently, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
there was a direct relative, a close relative, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
who I didn't know anything about and who was living in the UK, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
made me feel sad and curious, actually, at the same time. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
Because I thought, "Why does this woman not want to have | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
"any contact with her family in Guernsey?" | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
But, you know, life is complicated sometimes. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
This case has been, certainly, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
one of the more pleasant ones to deal with. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
It's a nice story of a family being reunited, at least in name, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
with the person they never knew about. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Daniel's firm signed up all seven heirs to Joan Wootton's estate, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
which is estimated at around £150,000. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
Joan may be sadly gone, but she's definitely not forgotten. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
All the neighbours all think of her very fondly. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
She's got loads of friends in the village that, you know, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
will miss her greatly. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
To think that for 30-odd years there was someone | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
living across the English Channel who was such a close relative, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
we all felt sad that the contact hadn't been made. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
One month later, Joan Wootton's story takes another twist. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
We were notified by our firm's | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
solicitors in Norfolk that they held a will. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
If the will is valid, then she's left £180,000 to be | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
divided between the RNLI and local youth centre. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
So, it does seem as though the heirs that we contacted | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
won't actually stand to benefit, after all. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Although Jane Wootton's relatives | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
may no longer be entitled to her estate, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
they have been given the gift of a missing piece | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
of their family history. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
In Liverpool, heir hunting firm Celtic Research are overseeing | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
the case of biological scientist and avid cyclist Susan Watson. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
Originally from Cheshire, Susan died in a tragic cycling accident | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
in her hometown of Oakland in California, in December 2013. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:36 | |
Susan passed away with no next of kin and she left no will. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
She was an amazing person and lived brightly. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
After learning that a rival firm had signed the sole two heirs | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
on Susan's mother's side of the family, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
Saul Marks, the case manager, had worked round the clock to find | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
and sign up ten heirs on her father's side. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
But it was still a race against time to stay one step ahead | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
of his competitors and trace more. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Susan's aunt, Olive Jean, her father's sister, had six children, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Susan's first cousins, four of whom had passed away. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
But it was their children, her first cousins once removed, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
along with her two surviving uncles, who would make up the majority | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
of her beneficiaries on her father's side. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
On top of the ten heirs already signed up | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
were another nine on this branch of Joan's family tree. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
One of her first cousins once removed is Angela Lang. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Her mother was Susan's first cousin, Molly. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
And her grandmother was Susan's aunt, Olive Jean. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
She received a phone call from Saul with the news that she was | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
an heir to Susan Watson's estate. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
It was a complete surprise, because I didn't know of her existence | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
prior to the phone call. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
But Angela was glad to be given the chance to reconnect with her past. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
This is a connection that's been lost, as far as my side | 0:36:02 | 0:36:08 | |
and Molly Green, my mother, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
because my father moved us away from the Cheshire area. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
It is a very strange feeling to inherit from somebody | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
whom I, actually, had no knowledge of, before Saul contact me. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:24 | |
It's a shame that she didn't have family of her own to leave it to, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:30 | |
but, from my point of view, it's a very nice present to enable | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
an extra holiday or something of that nature. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
Now the history books have been opened for Angela, she's | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
travelled to the Cheshire village where her family hailed from. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
And it's stirred up both emotions and memories. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
My mother was brought up in Peckforton. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
She was very, very attached to this place and used to visit frequently. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:02 | |
She had very close contacts, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:03 | |
which she kind of imbued on me a little. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
Angela's come to Peckforton Castle, where her | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
great-great-great-grandfather, the stonemason John Watson, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
helped carve and create this magnificent | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
architectural masterpiece. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
It was commissioned by Lord John Tollemache, a landowner | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
and member of Parliament. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
So he purchased this estate in 1840. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
And in 1842 he set about building this castle. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
All the stone as we see now, which your ancestor would have had | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
-a hand in creating, was all bought from the local quarry. -Mm, yes. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
The architect Anthony Salvin, who designed the castle, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
had a rather impressive CV. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
He'd previously worked on both the Tower of London and Windsor Castle. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Would you like to take a look inside the castle? And I can | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
show you some of the rooms that your ancestor had a hand in building. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
-That would be lovely, thank you. -Great. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
The castle, built from red sandstone, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
took nine years to complete. It's Grade I listed. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
-So, welcome to the Great Hall. -Right. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
This is my favourite room in the whole of Peckforton Castle. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
-Right. -And if you look around, you will see that it is exactly | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
-what a medieval great hall should look like. -A baronial hall. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
-Yeah. -It's a very impressive room, in a very impressive holding, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
-I must admit. -Yeah. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
Having seen the spectacular castle, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Angela's come to visit somewhere s little closer to home | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
in the village. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
My mother was born here, the Elephant and Castle house, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-Peckforton. -Yeah. -And that's what on her birth certificate. -Yeah. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
The house gets its name from the carved statue of an elephant | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
with a castle on its back, which is currently sitting in the garden. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
It dates back to around 1859 | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
and the image originally formed part of a crest. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
One of Angela's ancestors may have played a part in carving | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
the striking sculpture and her great-grandfather, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
George Watson, was also thought to have lived in this cottage | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
at the turn of the 20th century. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
That really is all I know, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
that it is here and was here when my mother was a child here. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Well, maybe I can help you out with just a bit of information | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-about the Elephant and Castle. -Yeah. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
-So, it was carved by George Watson's father, John Watson. -Mm. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
And this was actually in his garden, believe it or not. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
He sculpted it and he had it on display and I think it was | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
meant as a bit of a showmanship, sort of, "Look what I can do." | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
So, it was removed from its original position, we think, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
somewhere in the early, sort of, 1900s and was placed here. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
I haven't been back here for 30 years, or thereabouts, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
and it's lovely to come back, see that it hasn't changed. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
-Thank you very much. -No problem. Let's go and grab a coffee. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
It's absolutely fascinating. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
For Angela, who visit has been a worthwhile one. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
Susan Watson, who's made this possible, this trip, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
this visit, for me, because I'm one of her distant relatives. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
It's very sad that perhaps she's never been back here and, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
maybe, I kind of wish she could have. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
In Liverpool, Saul was at the final stages of tying up the Watson | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
family tree. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
He'd now managed to trace and sign up 23 of Susan Watson's heirs. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
His competitors had signed two, but one remained missing. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
There was actually one of the paternal heirs who we were | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
unable to trace at all. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
This gentleman had disappeared from the family fold a long time ago | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
and had, actually, been found to be living rough in his sister's | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
caravan in a field in North Wales in the 1980s. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
So, for the time being, his share of the estate remains unclaimed, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
but if he were to come forward, he would be entitled to claim it. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
So, after an unpromising start to Susan Watson's case, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
Saul had all the pieces in place to close the book on it. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
Once all the heirs on the estate were found, we could send all | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
the relevant paperwork to our attorney in California, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
who could submit a claim to the relevant court. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
This was all going perfectly well, until he was made aware that | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
Susan's partner was actually also making a claim against the estate. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
It turns out that Susan | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
and her partner had been living together as common-law man and wife. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
What this meant, in this instance, was that Susan's partner did | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
actually have a reasonably legitimate claim to this estate. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
So, with an approximate value of around half a million pounds, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
there are now 27 heirs who would inherit the estate between them, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
now that Susan's partner had stepped forward. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
There is a better the distinction in the legal term, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
"common-law spouses," | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
between the United Kingdom and some states in the United States. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
Whereby, in the US, some states recognise common-law spouses | 0:42:13 | 0:42:19 | |
as having the same rights as if they were legally married. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
And this stands in complete contrast with the United Kingdom. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
US law was on Susan's partner's side and he was a rightful heir. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
And, for Angela, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
not only was she going to inherit a piece of her cousin's fortune, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
she'd also been given an invaluable insight into her family's ancestry. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
The death of Susan, intestate, without family, is very sad. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
Especially the way she died. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
However, for me, it's been a chance to reconnect with this area, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:58 | |
with Peckforton, with my mother's family. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
But it is bittersweet. It is bittersweet. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 |