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-Today...

-I think I found someone.

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..Heir Hunters battle the competition on a tricky case...

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We're actually really stuck.

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I don't have a clue what's going on.

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Coming down.

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..the tough lives of family ancestors are explored...

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He'd be down here on his hands and knees with a shovel,

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cleaning it out manually,

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so that'd be an absolutely disgusting place to be.

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That's 5,869 results.

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..while in Wales, on a case with a common surname,

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the search becomes epic...

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It comes up with over 3,000 marriage searches.

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..and it uncovers the story of an infamous battle.

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We're talking about a ship going up in flames, with major explosions.

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It's all in a day's work for the Heir Hunters.

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When it comes to finding heirs,

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sometimes what should be the most straight-forward of family trees

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can be complicated purely by the name...

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and everyday surnames can be the worst,

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especially if it's the second most common name in the UK.

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Surnames like Smith, Jones, Evans -

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very difficult to research and very difficult to research

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in particular areas as well.

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The sheer volume of records makes it very difficult to pinpoint

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exactly which record is correct.

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So when it came to tracing relatives of retired gardener Keith Jones,

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the team knew they'd have their work cut out.

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Keith died at home in Cardiff at the age of 75.

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He was known locally as a nice man

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but one who liked to keep himself to himself.

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We've only lived here about 18 months,

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so Keith was the chap that lived next door.

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I wouldn't say that we knew him particularly well.

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I think he was just a private chap.

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He has a large garden

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that had got quite overgrown,

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but there's some really nice trees and plants in there,

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so clearly at some stage he took a lot of pride in it.

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But I guess in recent years he hasn't done so much with it

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and unfortunately it got a bit overgrown.

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Whilst respecting Keith's privacy, Owen was a considerate neighbour.

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We'd been sort of keeping an eye on Keith to check that he was OK

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and doing OK and there was a few days in a row

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where we hadn't sort of seen or heard of him

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and obviously the police came to investigate and found that

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he'd passed away, unfortunately.

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Keith hadn't made a will and had no known next of kin,

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so his case was advertised as unclaimed.

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Do you want to just open it fully?

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-That is fully.

-Is it?

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And in London, the team at Fraser & Fraser

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got straight on the case.

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If it's a Government Legal Department case,

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we know there are going to be other people looking into the matter,

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so it's going to be competitive

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and when we fist looked into where he was last residing,

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we couldn't find any information about his address.

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To assess whether it was a case worth working,

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the team needed to know the value of Keith's estate,

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which meant trying to find out if he'd owned his house in Cardiff.

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-There was two addresses, wasn't there?

-Both.

-Both.

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And that would prove unusually tricky.

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We can usually get things up-to-date,

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ie address, quite instantaneously,

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but, this one, we couldn't for some reason and I was thinking

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was it something to do with how common Jones was as a name?

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We had to actually purchase the death certificate to work out

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where he lived and, from that, we worked that he actually

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owned the property and it was an estate that we would look into.

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With the property estimated to be worth around £250,000,

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Ben hit the go button and researcher Sinead began the daunting task

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of searching for Joneses.

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At the start of each case, what you would do is you look for a birth.

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Keith Jones obviously is quite a common name, being Jones,

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and he's living in Wales at the time of his death.

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So more than likely he's going to be from Wales with the surname Jones.

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So what I did to start off with is I found his birth.

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Now, Keith was born in 1941 in Cardiff.

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Having found a record of Keith's birth,

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Sinead could now find out who his parents were.

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And from that I found his mother's maiden name was Briscombe,

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so I could find a marriage for his parents...

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..which I did find in 1939 in Cardiff

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for Alice Briscombe and Eli Jones.

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Next the team needed to find out if his Keith's parents, Alice and Eli,

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had any other children.

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We conducted another search for any other siblings,

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full-blood siblings of Keith.

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We were not able to locate any.

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But one detail immediately caught the team's attention.

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Eli is almost ten years older than his wife.

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So he's around 40 when the deceased is born.

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The team now wondered if Eli may have been married before.

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But when they looked at the certificate of his marriage

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to Alice, they got more than they bargained for.

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Both lists them as being previously married.

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So Eli Jones is a widower

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and Alice May Kruger, formerly Briscombe, is a divorcee,

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so this instantly says to us, well,

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there could be children from their first marriage.

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So this is something that we need to look into straightaway before we go

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back to cousins, because they have a prior claim as half-blood siblings.

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Alice's first husband had the unusual surname of Kruger

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so the team were quickly able to search for any potential children,

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but it turned out they hadn't had any.

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Check around that area to start off with, cos if he's going to

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marry young he's going to probably marry around that area.

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With that line of inquiry exhausted,

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the team turned their attentions to Keith's father, Eli Jones,

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and it was looking like a nightmare task.

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To look for a marriage...

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..if I put in just a simple search into a search engine

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just to see if there are any marriages, and just put Eli Jones,

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marriage maybe between 1912, when he's 16,

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up to 1939, before he marries Alice,

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and then do that as a kind of search,

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it comes up with over 3,000 marriage searches.

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And, well...

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I'm not going to be able to go through all of them in one day.

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With such a common name, the team were hoping they could focus

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their search on one small area,

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and Eli's career would give them a significant lead.

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Eli Jones is listed age 42,

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his occupation is also listed as a motor lorry driver.

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During World War I, Eli had served as a driver for the Royal Fleet Arm.

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In 1918, he was discharged on medical grounds,

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but his driving skills soon came in handy back in Wales,

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where he took a job delivering barrels of beer.

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In the 1920s, a lot of breweries were still using horse-drawn drays

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but the problem was

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in the First World War a lot of horses got called up

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for the front and didn't come back.

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After the First World War,

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they started selling off the Army surplus vehicles

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so a lot of petrol-driven lorries,

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even steam-driven lorries, started coming in as well in the 1920s and,

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carrying on after the First World War,

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it would have been petrol and diesel lorries there.

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Men who delivered beer were known as draymen and it was a job

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that required strength and skill.

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It was a manual job, it was a physical job.

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You had to be fit for it and move those heavy barrels around,

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but in the 1920s, 1930s, everyone was lucky to have a job.

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The barrels they would have used 100 years ago were made of wood

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and this is a 54-gallon barrel.

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Takes a bit of handling.

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Wooden barrel.

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Whereas today, we use the nine-gallon firkin.

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So 9 gallons, 54 gallons - a lot easier to use.

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Of course it's plastic as well.

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Draymen could drive, but they didn't have to be literate.

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There are stories of them just making chalk marks on the door

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of the cellar, rather than writing it down in a book

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or giving a receipt.

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Everything's done with receipts nowadays

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but that wasn't the case 100 years ago.

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Crucially for the Heir Hunters, though, Eli spent his career

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as a drayman working for a local brewery called Ely's

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and he stayed in the Pontypridd area.

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It's really going to help me narrow down the marriages in that area

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and I can go through them and find one that probably

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could be Eli's first marriage.

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And Sinead soon made the vital breakthrough.

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So I looked back at Eli and found he was married before

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and that his wife, Ivy, had died in 1933 in Cardiff.

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What we found is there's an Ivy Jones

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that passes away at the age of 32.

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She is Eli's wife...

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and obviously dies quite young.

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But the key question was whether they'd had any children

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who would be Keith's half siblings.

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Eli's been left with a number of children -

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one daughter and a few sons.

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So he's now looking after these young children

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without his wife.

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Eli and Ivy had five children

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and, tragically, Ivy died just nine months

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after the youngest, Marjorie, was born.

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In theory, these children, or their descendants,

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would be heirs to Keith's estate.

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But the team needed to know what had happened to them after Ivy's death.

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I think times back in the '30s,

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just after the Depression, were very tough times.

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If you were going to lose one parent back then,

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very difficult for the family to stay together.

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Obviously one person has to work to support

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and, without having that family unit,

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kids were either given out to family members or put into care.

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But the crucial question for Ben and the team

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was whether they'd been adopted out of the family.

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When adopted, an individual loses their entitlement

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to inherit from that family

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but gains the right to inherit from their new family.

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Were the team closing in on five potential heirs

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or were they about to find out they were back to square one?

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It's 9am and in London, heir hunting firm Finders International

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are working on new cases from the government's Bona Vacantia list

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of unclaimed estates.

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There's three property cases today, three of us in the office so far,

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three property cases, so that's one each.

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So I'm just trying to work out who the cases should go to.

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Estates which include a property

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are often worth hundreds of thousand of pounds.

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Hi, Danny.

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Case manager Ryan Gregory will be facing stiff competition

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from rival firms in finding heirs to these estates...

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..so recruits researcher Holly to help him work one of cases.

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I'm looking into the case of Daisy Charlwood.

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I've just managed to locate her birth record.

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She had no children, so I'm now having to look to see

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if she had any brothers or sisters at all.

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Daisy Charlwood was born in the seaside town of Hastings in 1919.

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She moved to London and worked as a book-keeper for most of her life.

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Although this photo survives,

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it seems she was a private person

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and not widely known in the community.

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She retired to Sidcup on the outskirts of London

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and lived on this street for 20 years.

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Daisy passed away in 2008, aged 92.

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Despite having been married three times, including to Fred Charlwood,

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she had no children and left no will.

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Thank you.

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So back in the office, the hunt is on,

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and the team have important news of the case's value.

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We think it's probably worth about £400,000.

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Daisy is now Ryan's number one priority,

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so to find her heirs,

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the team need to work out as fast as possible who her parents were.

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But they stumble at the first hurdle.

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At the moment, I can't find a marriage for the parents,

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-for Daisy.

-Right, OK.

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I've ruled out... There's no kids with either of these marriages.

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There was a gentleman living at this address with her.

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-OK.

-So I don't know whether it's worth sending a rep.

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I think we'll send a rep anyway at this stage.

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Try and work it through like that.

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Sometimes on a case we send a representative

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to the last known address of the person who's passed away.

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This is important for us.

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It can give us some leads into the wider family.

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Like-wise it can help us with a bit of information

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which would indicate there is close kin.

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Obviously if there's close kin, it'd stop doing a lot of unnecessary

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researching into the wider family.

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Hi, there. I was just wondering

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if you were free to do a visit for me this morning?

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The team have an army of travelling researchers

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and one of them is Howard Kleinberg.

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Today he's on his way to Daisy's former property.

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Well, we look at knocking on the doors of neighbours.

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We try the actual address,

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because the people who sometimes take over an address

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know something of the previous residents.

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Resident permit holders only.

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Howard could find out vital clues from neighbours.

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Really sorry to trouble you,

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but we're doing a thing about Daisy Charlwood who lived across the way.

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Did you know her at all?

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No. I see.

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OK. All right, sorry to trouble you.

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Thank you.

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Despite an unpromising start,

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suddenly Howard finds one of Daisy's friends.

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I'm actually looking for...

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I know, sadly, Daisy Charlwood passed.

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We was just trying to find out more about her

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to track through her family.

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Well, the person we did meet was someone who'd lived with her

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for quite a number of years,

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in fact, for the latter part of her life, was her carer

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and looked after her and took her out on trips, even.

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They used to go on coach trips to places they used to like,

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but he had limited knowledge of her family before he met her.

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She was born in Hastings.

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No siblings.

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No brothers or sisters.

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Sadly not many people that could talk of her now.

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In the office, the team are looking into Daisy's wider family.

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Could you just check and see

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if there's any other kids that we're missing on this?

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But they've hit a major road block.

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They cannot find any trace of the parents' names

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and they won't be able to further the research without them.

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I can't find much on her, so we might need to get the birth.

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They urgently need Daisy's birth certificate,

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so Holly calls the register office immediately.

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I was wondering whether you did a priority service at all

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for any copy certificates?

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Ryan desperately needs this information

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to get the hunt underway.

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So they're going to do the birth the same day.

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They said within an hour.

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Within an hour, that's as good as we can expect.

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I'm going to try and have a look for...

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Have a look through some of the marriages for the parents.

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OK.

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In the meantime, the only snippets of information

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they have to work with

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are that Daisy's father's surname was Russell

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and her mother's name was Brewster.

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-Was there any Russell marriages?

-There were loads.

-Was there loads?

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-Just in Hastings?

-Yeah. There were 67.

-Really?

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OK, all right, that's going to be a bit of a nightmare then.

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Ryan gives Holly a hand and checks through possible marriage records

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for Brewsters and Russells.

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Did you check out Brewster with an "er"?

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Um, I think I clicked name differences.

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I'm not saying this is right,

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but there's two marriages of Russells to Brewsters.

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Ryan thinks he's found two possible marriage records for people

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who could be Daisy's parents.

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I've got his death. That could be those two.

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That looks to me like it might be spelt wrong.

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-It might be, yeah.

-Brewster.

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So, let's... We'll go with this until the cert comes in.

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Yeah, I'm about to call them now.

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He's narrowed it down to one couple,

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but it will only be confirmed

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when he gets Daisy's full birth certificate

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with both her parents' names on it.

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So, quite often when you're researching a family tree,

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the information you need isn't necessary readily available.

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Quite often you have to use a hunch or an educated guess

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in order to step over the problem in hand.

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Ryan thinks one marriage from 1919 is correct

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between a Daisy Blanche Brewster and a Frederick W Russell in Bromley,

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a few miles from where Daisy Charlwood lived most of her life.

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Despite not having confirmation this is correct,

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Ryan takes a risk and ploughs ahead,

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looking at Daisy's mother's family.

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If the marriage I found on this is correct, it's going to be huge.

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The mum was one of eight in 1911...

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..which can be a good thing.

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We don't necessarily have any confirmation that it's correct.

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It could be a massive waste of time in terms of, you know,

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we're going to have to pull everyone into it now.

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It's a huge gamble.

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Ryan will have to work both sides of the family tree at the same time,

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all based on guesswork.

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I would say this is probably 98% correct.

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I'll take that risk and say that.

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We'll do any other possibilities as well.

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Ryan raises the stakes even further and gets the whole team involved.

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How's it going with everyone else?

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It's OK, but not great.

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While he and Camilla look into Daisy's mother's family of Brewster,

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he calls in researchers Holly and Ellie to investigate

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the father's side as quickly as possible.

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So, I'm still trying to put it on the starter tree,

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but could you look into the paternal side?

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Sorry. Surname Russell.

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Frederick W Russell.

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Research is difficult as Russell is a very common name.

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So, the surname Russell is up there with one of the hardest surnames

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for us to be researching.

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Could you look for this lady?

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If you have a commonly occurring surname,

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you have to order more certificates,

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you probably have to be more particular

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about the areas you're looking at.

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The surname can slow us down a bit.

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But the team think they have identified a Frederick W Russell

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who lived in Greenwich.

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We think we have identified her father,

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so I'm trying to look through the censuses to find out

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how many brothers and sisters he may have, if any at all.

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Holly finds the Frederick living in Greenwich

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may have had at least five siblings -

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a big family to research.

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With Daisy's mother's side looking large as well,

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Ryan's gamble is getting bigger and bigger.

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Presumably there's going to be 20, 30, 40 beneficiaries,

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so this one were going to start working now,

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we're going to need everyone in the team to look into

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the maternal and paternal side.

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It's a huge family, so we're not quite sure at the minute

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whether some lines will die out.

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Ryan is playing with fire.

0:19:130:19:15

If he's picked the wrong parents to investigate,

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his whole team will have wasted a morning's research.

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But if he's guessed correctly,

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he could be miles ahead of the competition.

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There'll definitely be another couple of companies on it.

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We just never know. I mean,

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this is always the same thing for day one for a search.

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We just have to throw everything at it.

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And Ryan thinks he has made a breakthrough on the mother's side

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as he's found an elderly cousin.

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Speaking to them will confirm if he's researched the correct family,

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and whether his gamble has paid off.

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I'm just about to ring back

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the only beneficiary we've found so far on her mum's side of the family.

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I rang him earlier and he was engaged.

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Then I rang back and there was no answer so I left a message.

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If someone's engaged,

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the first thought is they're speaking to a competitor.

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As he's the only beneficiary, we need to talk to him.

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He's on the phone again.

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Hello, good morning. Sorry to bother you again.

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We'd be really keen for us to give you a few more details.

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Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

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So, yeah engaged again.

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So, three times I've rung, twice he's been engaged,

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once I've left... I've left two messages now so

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I think I'll leave it there.

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Without speaking to heirs,

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the team have no idea whether they're working the right family.

0:20:360:20:39

Would it be able to be read to me over the phone?

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But there's a glimmer of hope.

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I've just heard back from the registry office in Hastings

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and they've confirmed that the birth certificate was correct

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and the parents that we we're looking into was correct as well,

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so we know that we're on the right track now.

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But the team's excitement is short-lived.

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OK, that's bad...

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While the birth certificate confirms they definitely have the right names

0:21:040:21:07

for the parents, it now looks like they may have looked at

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the wrong family for the father.

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Let's forget about everything we've done on Russell so far.

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The family they had researched for Frederick Russell,

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based in Greenwich, is wrong and they have to start again.

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A little bit stressful. We've just had to scrap the Russell side

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of the family that we were doing.

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Will Ryan be able to make up for lost time?

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I'm actually really stuck.

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We don't know if it's wrong but if it's right...

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Anyway, we need to figure it out.

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Every year in Britain, thousands of people get a surprise knock on

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the door from the Heir Hunters.

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I was quite shocked because I didn't realise that there was

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anybody in the family that we could inherit from any more.

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But there are still thousands of unsolved cases

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where heirs need to be found.

0:21:540:21:56

Today, we've got details of two estates

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on the Government Legal Department Bona Vacantia list

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that have yet to be cracked.

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Could you be the heirs they're looking for?

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The first case on the list is Amelia Lilian Rissone.

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She was born on the 19th of November 1905

0:22:120:22:15

in London, and died in Camden in 1998 as a spinster.

0:22:150:22:20

It's likely Amelia had Italian ancestry.

0:22:200:22:23

Do you have Italian blood and a Rissone in your family?

0:22:230:22:27

Could you be the person the Heir Hunters are looking for?

0:22:270:22:30

The next case is Edwin Queen,

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who was born on the 29th of March 1922 in London

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and died aged 70 in Crawley, West Sussex.

0:22:380:22:41

His parents were William Henry Queen

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and Mary Ann Queen.

0:22:450:22:46

Do you recognise the unusual surname of Queen?

0:22:470:22:50

Do you know anything that could help solve the cases

0:22:510:22:54

of Edwin Queen and Amelia Rissone?

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Perhaps you could be the next of kin

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and, if so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way.

0:23:000:23:04

In the case of bachelor Keith Jones,

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the team at Fraser & Fraser were tantalisingly close

0:23:140:23:17

to finding their first heirs.

0:23:170:23:19

I just put in Eli Jones.

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They'd located five potential half siblings

0:23:230:23:26

but were trying to find out what had happened to them after their mother

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died, leaving father Eli on his own.

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If they'd been adopted out of the family,

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they'd be ruled out of the search.

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But luckily for the team, it was a very different story.

0:23:400:23:44

When Ivy passed away, the family were placed with her family.

0:23:440:23:49

Eli would obviously have to try and support five people

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and work at the same time,

0:23:510:23:53

so they were given to the maternal extended family.

0:23:530:23:57

It was great news for the team and meant they could now focus their

0:24:000:24:04

attentions on tracing Keith's half siblings or their descendants.

0:24:040:24:08

One of them was William.

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William George Jones was born in 1921 in Pontypridd.

0:24:100:24:13

A search of records revealed that William had joined the Royal Navy

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and, during the Second World War,

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he was a gunner on a ship called HMS Rodney.

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With regard to the roles that William Jones would have undertaken

0:24:260:24:30

as a gunner, the Rodney would have had

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40mm quick firing anti-aircraft guns, QF2s,

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and those would have performed roles

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in defending the Rodney against potential attacks.

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And William's skills became vital as the battle for naval superiority

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intensified in the early 1940s.

0:24:490:24:51

Winston Churchill is said to have said that the only thing

0:24:510:24:55

that worried him was the Battle of the Atlantic.

0:24:550:24:59

The German Navy when now attempting to bring their major warship to bear

0:24:590:25:05

to threaten what was happening with the Royal Navy.

0:25:050:25:07

The most feared of those German warships was the Bismarck.

0:25:070:25:11

Bismarck was commissioned in 1940.

0:25:110:25:15

It only had an eight-month service life,

0:25:150:25:19

but it was an extremely modern,

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well equipped and well armed ship.

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It was a threat to British shipping

0:25:250:25:28

and the British Navy in the North Sea and potentially the Atlantic.

0:25:280:25:32

In May 1941, a British flotilla, including HMS Rodney,

0:25:350:25:40

was scrambled to the Denmark Strait

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to take on the mighty Bismarck.

0:25:420:25:44

But first blood went to the Germans.

0:25:440:25:46

The first major engagement with HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Hood

0:25:470:25:54

saw the Prince of Wales have to scuttle away,

0:25:540:25:57

and we see the Hood sunk.

0:25:570:26:00

But the remaining British ships, including the Rodney, fought on.

0:26:000:26:04

William Jones and his crew mates,

0:26:040:26:06

although they may have been exhilarated by the prospect

0:26:060:26:09

of battle, may also have been fearful for their lives.

0:26:090:26:13

It was a ship with a reputation for its armament and speed

0:26:130:26:18

and, knowing what it had done to the Hood,

0:26:180:26:21

there was always a possibility that other ships

0:26:210:26:24

would suffer the same fate.

0:26:240:26:26

Two days into the battle, though,

0:26:260:26:28

the British ships began to strike back and, as a gunner,

0:26:280:26:31

William had a front-row seat.

0:26:310:26:34

He would have had a pretty clear view of the damage

0:26:340:26:37

being caused to the Bismarck.

0:26:370:26:39

We're talking about a ship going up in flames,

0:26:390:26:42

with major explosions causing a huge amount of damage.

0:26:420:26:47

The Bismarck was eventually overcome,

0:26:470:26:50

and sank on the 27th of May 1941.

0:26:500:26:53

It was a significant victory for British forces but, tragically,

0:26:530:26:57

more than 2,000 men lost their lives.

0:26:570:27:00

During his time in the Navy, it appears William met his wife,

0:27:050:27:08

a radar operator.

0:27:080:27:10

Early on in their marriage, they moved to South Africa,

0:27:100:27:13

which caused some headaches for the team.

0:27:130:27:15

This brought up quite a few issues.

0:27:150:27:17

Very strict privacy laws over there

0:27:200:27:22

to trace family members of individuals.

0:27:220:27:25

The team established that William had passed away in 1986.

0:27:260:27:30

The question was whether he'd had any children who would be heirs.

0:27:300:27:34

So, I've been looking into his family to see if he gets married,

0:27:340:27:39

has any children, and what I've been able to find is I've actually

0:27:390:27:42

been able to find a death certificate for him in South Africa

0:27:420:27:45

and a death certificate for his wife.

0:27:450:27:47

Unfortunately, his death certificate is actually in Afrikaans.

0:27:490:27:52

So, what I have got here is the death certificate

0:27:530:27:56

for Dorothy Marie Jones,

0:27:560:27:57

who was the wife of William George Jones.

0:27:570:28:00

This one is actually in English, unlike her husband.

0:28:000:28:03

It lists the date of birth being the 19th of the 10th, 1925,

0:28:030:28:08

her date of death on the 30th of the 3rd, 1981,

0:28:080:28:11

that she was of nationality South African, she was a housewife,

0:28:110:28:15

and he's listed there four children.

0:28:150:28:18

All right, then. Cheers.

0:28:190:28:23

It was the news they'd been hoping for

0:28:230:28:25

and, as they began contacting William's children in South Africa,

0:28:250:28:28

they made a quirky discovery.

0:28:280:28:31

When we contacted William's family in South Africa,

0:28:310:28:35

his first-born had the middle name of Rodney.

0:28:350:28:37

The team had now started signing their first heirs,

0:28:390:28:42

and they were making positive progress closer to home.

0:28:420:28:45

We know that from the first marriage of the deceased's father

0:28:450:28:48

there were five children.

0:28:480:28:50

One of them is still alive,

0:28:500:28:52

so he will be entitled to a fifth of the estate.

0:28:520:28:55

He is very elderly and, in that instance,

0:28:550:28:59

what we usually do is find sons and daughters of that individual

0:28:590:29:02

to speak to them directly.

0:29:020:29:04

Obviously, in this case, he is a half-blood sibling

0:29:040:29:07

and it shouldn't be me to give that information over to him.

0:29:070:29:11

Next, Ben turned his attention to the eldest of the five, Gwendoline.

0:29:110:29:15

Half-blood sister Gwendoline Louvaine Jones,

0:29:150:29:18

born in 1919.

0:29:180:29:19

She married a Gilbert Seaborne in 1937 and had six children.

0:29:190:29:23

One of those children was Roger,

0:29:260:29:28

and Ben was able to track him down and deliver the surprise news.

0:29:280:29:33

I mean, I knew my cousins. I'd met most of my cousins before.

0:29:330:29:36

It was the cousins in South Africa that were a bit of a mystery.

0:29:390:29:42

I think I first met Keith around about 1967, possibly '68.

0:29:440:29:50

I was with my late brother, Glyn,

0:29:510:29:54

so we were chatting to this chap and I remember him saying,

0:29:540:29:58

"Oh, that's our uncle."

0:29:580:30:01

I went, "Oh, why didn't you tell me you had been speaking to him?"

0:30:010:30:06

Yeah, he seemed a very pleasant chap.

0:30:070:30:10

He obviously knew my elder brother.

0:30:100:30:13

Then I bumped into him again in the '70s some time.

0:30:130:30:16

I think I might have bumped into him in the '80s

0:30:170:30:20

and then the last time I saw him was at a wedding

0:30:200:30:22

which would have been around 1990.

0:30:220:30:25

They were quite a disjointed family.

0:30:250:30:27

For case manager Ben, contacting Roger would prove invaluable.

0:30:290:30:34

So when we're looking into a Jones family,

0:30:340:30:36

we're always hoping that someone knows about the family.

0:30:360:30:40

Roger was able to confirm that, once his grandmother had passed away,

0:30:400:30:44

his grandfather Eli went on to marry

0:30:440:30:46

Alice May Kruger, nee Briscombe.

0:30:460:30:50

That just made sure and confirmed that we were on the right track

0:30:500:30:54

and, from that point, we were able to really get our teeth into

0:30:540:30:57

finding the other half-blood sibling descendants.

0:30:570:31:00

Ultimately, the team were able to trace a total of 18 heirs

0:31:000:31:04

to the estimated £250,000 estate.

0:31:040:31:08

But for Roger, the inheritance is tinged with regret.

0:31:080:31:11

I just felt a bit sorry that nobody from the family was at the funeral.

0:31:130:31:18

Myself and my cousin Debbie went to the coroners inquest, you know,

0:31:200:31:25

cos we thought somebody from the family should be there.

0:31:250:31:28

A great shame, really.

0:31:280:31:29

But you can't turn back the clock and change things.

0:31:300:31:33

Yeah, I'll keep going with it.

0:31:420:31:44

Back in London, it's midday and heir hunting company Finders

0:31:440:31:48

are three hours into their search

0:31:480:31:49

for heirs to the estate of Daisy Charlwood.

0:31:490:31:52

I've got her birth now, so hopefully we can find her.

0:31:520:31:54

Daisy was a war widow

0:31:540:31:56

who lived in Sidcup on the outskirts of London for most of her life

0:31:560:32:00

and passed away aged 92.

0:32:000:32:02

Very few people knew Daisy and records are limited

0:32:020:32:06

so the team have been forced to work on a series of hunches.

0:32:060:32:09

-If you print that out, actually, I can start having a look.

-OK.

0:32:090:32:13

But one vital guess proved a disastrous mistake.

0:32:130:32:16

The team had wasted precious hours looking into the wrong family of

0:32:160:32:20

Daisy's father, Frederick W Russell, based in Greenwich.

0:32:200:32:23

We're currently just trying to figure out

0:32:250:32:27

which is the right family, the dad.

0:32:270:32:29

There are lots of potential Frederick Williams it could be,

0:32:290:32:35

so really just trying to figure out the right one,

0:32:350:32:38

which is posing a bit of a struggle at the moment.

0:32:380:32:42

I don't have a clue what's going on.

0:32:420:32:44

Worried they are behind the competition,

0:32:450:32:47

the whole team are looking for the correct Frederick Russell.

0:32:470:32:51

Did you see one on the Russell side?

0:32:510:32:53

Ryan has three families to pick from

0:32:540:32:57

so calls a crisis meeting to see if they can figure it out.

0:32:570:33:00

So I think I've found someone on my bit.

0:33:010:33:04

We don't know if it's wrong, but if it's right...

0:33:040:33:07

It's interesting anyway. We need to figure it out.

0:33:070:33:10

Everybody needs to look for clues in the records to point out

0:33:100:33:13

the right family for Frederick,

0:33:130:33:15

otherwise research will grind to a halt.

0:33:150:33:18

So we're actually really stuck.

0:33:180:33:19

-This is the one that made the most sense, though.

-It did.

0:33:190:33:23

Hi, there. I think I spoke to you earlier this morning about

0:33:230:33:26

getting a certificate read to me over the phone?

0:33:260:33:29

But Holly makes a major breakthrough.

0:33:290:33:32

A closer look at Daisy's birth certificate

0:33:320:33:34

reveals an address for her parents.

0:33:340:33:37

The address that she was born at,

0:33:370:33:39

we found another Russell living on that street in the 1939 census.

0:33:390:33:45

It's the best link they have for a Russell family

0:33:450:33:47

and moves their search for Frederick's family

0:33:470:33:50

from Greenwich to Hastings,

0:33:500:33:52

but it's still a huge gamble.

0:33:520:33:55

We're trying to still figure out whether it's correct,

0:33:550:33:57

but let's just say it's correct for now.

0:33:570:33:59

The only way they'll confirm they have the right family

0:33:590:34:02

is if they speak to heirs.

0:34:020:34:04

Ryan spurs the team into more action.

0:34:040:34:06

We just need to find some more beneficiaries, please.

0:34:080:34:11

So I think the Frederick William Russell in Hastings, well...

0:34:110:34:14

Can we get some certs from Hastings?

0:34:140:34:17

We can.

0:34:170:34:18

The certificates will verify who's who in Daisy's father's family

0:34:180:34:22

and, when they do come in,

0:34:220:34:24

they reveal an intriguing detail about her father.

0:34:240:34:27

Frederick Russell was a sewer man in London during the 1920s,

0:34:280:34:33

and today the sewers in London

0:34:330:34:34

are maintained by people following in his footsteps.

0:34:340:34:37

We're off to the Fleet Sewer, in Calthorpe Street.

0:34:380:34:42

This is our safety tripod and winch.

0:34:420:34:45

This wouldn't have been around when they actually built these,

0:34:450:34:48

they'd have been going up and down the ladders on their own, probably

0:34:480:34:50

with hobnail boots on, maybe a rope if they were really, really lucky,

0:34:500:34:53

but generally, no, they'd have had nothing like this.

0:34:530:34:56

I don't even think they knew what health and safety meant.

0:34:560:34:58

Coming down.

0:34:580:35:00

London hadn't had a sewer system until the 1860s

0:35:000:35:03

and, before then, the River Thames had acted as the main drain

0:35:030:35:07

for raw sewage in London.

0:35:070:35:09

The real problem of

0:35:090:35:10

sewage filth in the River Thames

0:35:100:35:11

was of course that the River Thames

0:35:110:35:13

was, at that time,

0:35:130:35:15

the main source of drinking water for the population.

0:35:150:35:18

This led to all the problems of disease, cholera, typhoid,

0:35:180:35:22

typhus and so on, and the government was, in the end,

0:35:220:35:25

compelled to do something about it.

0:35:250:35:27

The solution was over 1,300 miles of sewer tunnel under London

0:35:290:35:33

to divert sewage to treatment works in the east of the city.

0:35:330:35:36

Frederick's job would have been to keep the sewage flowing east.

0:35:370:35:41

Filth and muck off the roads would tend to collect

0:35:410:35:44

in the bottom of some of the sewers

0:35:440:35:46

and it involved men necessarily going into the sewers

0:35:460:35:50

and digging this detritus, muck, out by hand.

0:35:500:35:54

The sewers today are probably a lot nicer place,

0:35:570:35:59

if you can call at that,

0:35:590:36:01

than they would have been about 150 years ago.

0:36:010:36:04

When they were built,

0:36:040:36:05

there would've been a lot more sewage coming down here.

0:36:050:36:07

But they still wouldn't be flushing as much water

0:36:070:36:10

as we do these days into the sewer system.

0:36:100:36:12

So it would be a lot more solids coming through.

0:36:120:36:15

Down in places like Smithfield Meat Market,

0:36:150:36:18

I wouldn't even think about going downstream of that.

0:36:180:36:22

That would be an absolutely disgusting place to be.

0:36:220:36:24

Today, it's not quite so bad.

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100 years ago, Frederick didn't have the advantage of machines

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to help clear blocked sewers.

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Frederick, originally, would have been called a flusher.

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He'd be down here on his hands and knees with a shovel,

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cleaning it out manually.

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So, hot, nasty and very physical work for him.

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And the sewers contained hidden threats.

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Working down here was very dangerous.

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Sewage, when it starts to degrade, gives off various gases.

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So a good couple of deep breaths of that and, yeah,

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you'll be lying on the floor unconscious.

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Today we've got gas monitors, hard hats and PPE on.

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They would be down here in a pair of hobnail boots and a felt cap.

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No, they were a lot braver than I, at the time.

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Frederick's death certificate shows he died from bronchopneumonia,

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possibly brought on from working in the sewers.

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But his marriage certificate gives the heir hunters more valuable clues

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about Frederick's family.

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His father, Daisy's grandfather, William Russell,

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married Caroline Edwards in 1881

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and they had five children,

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four of which are Daisy's aunts and uncles.

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Five kids, so four lines.

0:37:420:37:45

OK, cool. A bit smaller. OK. All right.

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I mean, it seems to make the most sense.

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To trace the aunts and uncles, the team need to divide and conquer.

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So at the moment we've just split each potential child up between us

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and we're going to have a look into that one instead.

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If these aunts and uncles had children, they'd be crucial heirs.

0:38:020:38:06

Frederick's dad. I'll do Herbert.

0:38:060:38:09

-Yeah.

-I'll get Camilla to do Walter.

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I'm going to copy this. I'll do a few copies of this.

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The team are confident they're ahead.

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The Russell surname,

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you can easily go and follow the wrong line, pretty much.

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I think we're on the right track.

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Although the team are confident they've found the correct family,

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they won't know for sure till they make contact with them.

0:38:280:38:30

I just really want to speak to someone, but we need to know

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whether anyone is going to want to retain our services.

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We want to know if anybody has got some info on the family.

0:38:370:38:39

If we can speak to someone who can verify the info or the tree we're

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working on, it would be great.

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Ryan manages to find a phone number for a potential heir.

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This is going to be...

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..a first cousin once removed on the Russell side of the family.

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It's a call which could make or break the case.

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Have the competition beaten Ryan to the heirs?

0:38:590:39:03

Hello, there. It's Ryan Gregory. We're a firm of heir hunters.

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We're actually looking into the Russell family tree.

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Have you been contacted about this at all?

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That's quite good.

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It's satisfying news.

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Ryan is first to this potential heir.

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But Ryan still needs confirmation he still has the right family.

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It's going quite far back.

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Do you know whether your grandfather had a brother called Frederick?

0:39:250:39:30

No. OK, I mean that's really the link

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cos Frederick would be Daisy's dad.

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But essentially the way we're working, Russell's quite

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a common surname so there's quite a lot of different possibilities.

0:39:390:39:42

The potential heir can't confirm his grandfather was related

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to Daisy's father. Only certificates will be able to prove that.

0:39:460:39:51

Yeah, yeah, I hope so.

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But all the other information adds up and Ryan is quietly confident

0:39:520:39:56

he's on the right track.

0:39:560:39:57

All right, we'll see you later. Cheers. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

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OK, finally after five hours I think I managed to speak to a beneficiary,

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a potential beneficiary we should say,

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because we're still not 100% sure

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whether the Russell side of the family is correct.

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But if it is correct, then we were the first to contact him.

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He's given me some details on this line of the family.

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You know, happy days.

0:40:170:40:19

-Hello, Camilla. How's it going?

-Yeah, it's going OK.

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Ryan and the team soon contact some more potential heirs

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and it's a satisfying end to the day.

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We've had at least one signature, which is good.

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We've contacted them first.

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They've been really amiable with us

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so we're visiting them later on today and tomorrow.

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But Ryan can't celebrate just yet.

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You're never really 100% sure whether someone is a beneficiary

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until you get the documents back in.

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These are the documents you need

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linking the heir to the deceased, or vice versa.

0:40:510:40:54

A few days later, two of the heirs they visited

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are reflecting on the surprise knock at the door.

0:41:010:41:04

A man knocked on my door and I had no idea what he was talking about.

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In fact, I wasn't going to let him in to start with.

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But it was just so out of the blue.

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Well, Barbara phoned me in absolute shock.

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We had no idea.

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Well, we just didn't know they existed.

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If they do inherit some of Daisy's estate,

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Valerie has already made plans for the money.

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However much it is,

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I've decided that I'll probably share it with my children.

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My children would probably like a little slice of the cake.

0:41:400:41:43

-I'll do the same thing.

-Yeah.

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But their inheritance isn't guaranteed

0:41:490:41:51

until Ryan has verified he definitely has the right family.

0:41:510:41:54

After two more days of research, he finally has the answer.

0:41:560:42:00

We've had all of the certificates in that we need now

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and we've spoken to family members

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and the good news is that both sides of the family is correct.

0:42:060:42:09

Against all odds, it has turned into a very successful heir hunt.

0:42:100:42:15

We found at least 17 beneficiaries and, you know,

0:42:150:42:18

the majority of people have chose to retain our services.

0:42:180:42:22

We seem to have been ahead of the competition on this one I'd say.

0:42:220:42:25

OK, that's cool.

0:42:250:42:26

Heir Barbara is coming to terms with learning about Daisy

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and the family she never knew about.

0:42:310:42:33

There he is. That's grandad.

0:42:330:42:35

I would've loved to have been in contact with her when she was alive.

0:42:350:42:38

I really do feel bad now

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that we didn't keep in touch with the family.

0:42:400:42:43

Well, there's loads here.

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-Half of them, I don't know who they are.

-I know.

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It could be a new chapter in her family history

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as she learns more about Daisy's life.

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Well, I am a great lover of my family.

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We might be able to meet family that we didn't know we had.

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