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On today's programme, the Frasers' team tackle two very different cases.

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A monster of a family spread across the globe...

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Six, seven, eight, nine kids there, plus five off his first marriage.

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-He's a busy boy.

-There's 14 children. It's not bad for a butcher, is it?

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..with the consequences of that scattered clan.

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She cried her eyes out for two days.

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Also, a story that showed that being unique...

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What's it say...? Struebig?

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Struebig. Struebig.

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..doesn't mean you're easy to find.

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Some years ago, we did make some efforts to find out where he was, but we got nowhere.

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And I rather think that we thought that he'd died.

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Plus a list of estates worth over £300,000.

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Could you be in line for some cash?

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Every year in Britain, over 300,000 people

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die without leaving a will.

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When no family is found, their money goes to the government.

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That's when the heir hunting companies step in.

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Using birth, death and marriage records,

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they race against each other to be first to track down any long-lost relatives entitled to inherit.

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Fraser and Fraser is one of the oldest firms of Heir Hunters in the country.

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In its 30-year history, the company has tracked down over 50,000 heirs,

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entitled to a whopping sum of over £100 million.

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It's 7am in Fraser and Fraser's central London office.

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It's Valentine's Day but romance will have to wait, as Thursday

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is the day the Government publishes the list of unclaimed estates.

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Partner Neil Fraser has got his eye on the estate of Reginald Hicks as he thinks it may be worth a lot.

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The reason I've picked this case is because I think they own the property.

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I say they because I think the deceased was married at one time

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and his wife only recently died just before him.

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Reginald Hicks worked as a machine engine fitter at the Plymouth Shipyard.

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He and his wife, Dorothy Holman,

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who has also passed away, lived in this property and had no children.

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What we know is that a house next door

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sold in 2007 for about £190,000.

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So we think the value of the estate is going to be in the region of £200,000.

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That's a huge sum and the competition will be fierce, so they need to move fast.

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With over 28 years at Frasers', senior case manager Tony Pledger is at the helm.

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-Reginald John Blake.

-From the government's bona vacantia list, the Heir Hunters know that Reginald

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died in December 2007, but just 20 minutes into the investigation, they've hit a brick wall.

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This next one...

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as far as I can see, he's not born...

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or he's Scottish.

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It seems that the researchers can't find a record of Reginald's birth anywhere in England.

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If they can't find the details of his birth,

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then they won't be able to track his parents and so build a family tree.

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Like all good prospectors, the Heir Hunters spend their days mapping out their claim.

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They build family trees generation by generation, so that they can see

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who is related to the deceased, and who is in line to inherit.

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All our enquiries are sort of indicating that he may be Irish and

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we only have access to the English and Welsh records in this office.

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We have some Scottish records but they're a bit piecemeal really, so

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we're really reliant on one of our researchers in Ireland trying to pick up the birth certificate.

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To give them a head start in the race to gather intelligence, Frasers employ a crack team of mobile agents

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who spend their Thursdays at the wheel ready to follow every clue in pursuit of the heirs.

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Thanks a lot, mate.

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Tony contacts his Irish agent to see if they can trace a Hicks birth over there.

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Hopefully, Reginald John Blake Hicks, you can find something.

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And at the same time, Tony sends travelling heir hunter Ewart Lyndsey to Plymouth

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to collect the death certificate, as this will list Reginald Hicks' date and place of birth.

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But as Plymouth is a five-hour drive from London, it could be a long wait.

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Fingers in three pies, all at the same time.

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Hopefully, we'll be able to pull out a plum.

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Tony may not have any details on Reginald's family, but he does have a lead.

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The researchers have already done a family tree for Reginald's late wife, Dorothy Holman

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and through this, they have found relatives still living in Plymouth.

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-By checking the electoral roll, Tony has tracked down Dorothy's sister in law.

-Oh, I see. Right.

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That would be lovely then, yeah.

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Because she is not a blood relative, she is not an heir, but she may be able to provide vital clues.

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Right. Bear with me.

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So you knew Reggie's dad then.

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Oh, you didn't know... knew of him. Right.

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So this lead isn't really going anywhere.

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Tony still has no clue where Reginald was born or who his parents were.

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-They desperately need that death certificate but Ewart's still got miles of tarmac ahead of him.

-Hello.

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-Hello, Tone?

-Yes, Ewart. What's up?

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Yeah. Just to let you know that I'm stuck in traffic on the M25, Tony.

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There's a surprise. Thank you for sharing that with me.

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-Fine.

-That was Ewart.

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Ringing me up to tell me he's stuck in traffic. So what?

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But not every call gets on Tony's wick.

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That conversation with Reginald's distant relative really paid off.

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He got a number for a niece of Reginald's wife, Dorothy.

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Hello. Is that Mrs Winter?

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I'm ringing you about your uncle, Reginald Hicks.

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She is not an heir, either, but Tony is hoping she'll be able to give him the crucial information he needs.

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Where was Reginald born?

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Well, you see, the problem that we're having though is

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initially identifying Reginald Hicks' birth.

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Oh, I see.

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It looks like this conversation could be the break they need.

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But thanks ever so much for your help. Thank you. Bye.

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She thinks that he might be born in Scotland.

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And she's fairly confident that he's an only child.

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What a fantastic result.

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The phone call has saved precious hours. They found out that Reginald was born in Dunfermline in Scotland.

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Luckily, Frasers have these records and the researchers head straight for them.

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They found him. And along with Reginald's birth, they are able

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to find his parents' names, as well.

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And from there, their marriage in Tunbridge Wells.

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As the information comes flying in, the pieces of the puzzle begin to fall into place.

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So Reginald Hicks' father is John Hicks and he married Dorothy Mabel Carey.

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Because Reginald was an only child and he had no offspring,

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the Heir Hunters meet to investigate the aunts and uncles.

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If any of them had children, they'll be Reginald's cousins and heirs to his estate.

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Tony will have to do two family trees.

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One looking at John Hicks' side of the family and one looking at Dorothy Carey's siblings.

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So, now my colleague's just told me that we have

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a birth for John Blake Hicks in St Columb which is in Cornwall, in 1892.

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Why a bloke born in Cornwall gets married

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in Tunbridge Wells and had a child born in Dunfermline is beyond me.

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Dock workers often move from port to port and that could explain the Hicks' scattered existence.

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As there's so much to research, another case manager, Frances Brett,

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is helping out with the Carey family tree.

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I'm looking at the censuses for the Carey family and so far I've looked

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at the 1901 and the 1891 censuses.

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It's a clever way of finding out

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everyone in the family in one fell swoop.

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The census is a national population survey which is conducted by the government every ten years.

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They are only released for public use 100 years after they were taken

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and the latest census Frasers has is from 1901.

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The beauty of this document is that it lists every individual

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within a household so the team will be able to see who was living in the Carey family home in that year.

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...

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OK, looks like the mother might have eight brothers and sisters.

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Right. That'll keep you busy, won't it?

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The census has been invaluable.

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So far, they've uncovered eight siblings for Dorothy Carey, Reginald's mum.

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All children of David and Henrietta Carey.

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And it looks like the Careys are not the only large family.

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On the Hicks' side of it, there's probably half a dozen uncles and aunts,

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as well. But the problem is, one family is in Kent and the other family's down in Cornwall...

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so, we've got Ewart going down to Cornwall and we might then get somebody to go

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down to Tunbridge Wells, but Tunbridge Wells is the sort of place that's easy to move from.

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You know, it's only a train ride and you're into London

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and then from London you meet some bird that comes from Darlington, so you end up in Darlington.

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Looks like Tony is staggering under the weight of all these

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stems on the family tree and he's not the only one in need of a break.

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Oh, dear.

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Only another 100 miles to go, Ewart.

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Coming up, they couldn't find his birth place.

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Now they can't find his death certificate.

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Why can't they find it?

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I am personally puzzled.

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Reginald Hicks is proving elusive.

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I'm not having a good day today, actually.

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And an unusual name keeps Marcus on his toes.

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Never even heard of it before.

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It's not Welsh. I would say it's Dutch. Something like that.

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But what do I know?

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Nothing actually, not this time of the morning.

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The Heir Hunters use all their skills and cunning to find heirs

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to millions of pounds' worth of unclaimed cash.

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But sometimes the trail goes cold.

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Perhaps you could be due a fortune and not even know it.

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Robin Slaney died on March 22nd 2004, in Weston Super Mare.

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He was 64 years old and he left a huge sum of £125,000.

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Are you related to him? If you are, his money could go to you.

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Ruth Queenie Stanton passed away in Camden, North London, when she was 93 years old, leaving £24,000.

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Have you heard of Ruth or are you one of her family?

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If you are related, you could be in line to get her cash.

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Edward William Simpkins died at Westcliff on Sea, in Essex.

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He was 84 years old and left a bank account with £20,000.

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If you are a family member and can prove it, you could claim this money.

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If you think you may know any of these people or know someone who may be entitled to their money,

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please look at our website for details of what to do next.

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The Heir Hunters have been following the case of Reginald Hicks,

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who died in Plymouth, leaving this house, valued at around £200,000.

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Given the size of both sides of the family, Frasers have made quick work of building the trees.

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It looks like the paternal side, the Hicks family, has half a dozen uncles and aunts.

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And the maternal side, the Careys, have at least eight.

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Partner Neil Fraser thinks that they're facing a challenge.

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So, there's a potential once this has all come down and

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we're coming down two generations of maybe 50 to 60 beneficiaries.

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We may quickly cut them all down as we find some dying in the war

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and stuff, but there's potential for there to be a huge, huge family.

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They really need a break here.

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Tony is hoping the informant on Reginald Hicks' death certificate

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will be able to tell them more about his family.

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And after a five-hour drive, Ewart's finally arrived at the Register Office in Plymouth.

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What a disaster.

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Unfortunately, not able to pick up any certificates at Plymouth Register Office.

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They're not producing certificates within five days...

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but not only that, they can't find the death of the deceased.

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It's a major blow...

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and also, a bit of a mystery,

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as the bona vacantia confirms that Reginald Hicks died in Plymouth.

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It seems the file's missing.

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You know, it's been registered.

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Why can't they find it? You know, I am personally puzzled.

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But there's no point dwelling on it.

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With rival firms breathing down their necks,

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they'll have to concentrate on other areas of investigation.

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I'm not having a good day today, actually.

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Trying to make the most of a bad situation, Tony sends Ewart on the one-hour

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drive to St Austell to collect certificates for aunts and uncles on the Hicks side of the family.

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He hopes they'll contain vital clues to push the case on.

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Back in the office, Tony is looking at one of the stems of the Carey family tree.

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He's trying to trace Arthur C Carey, Reginald's uncle.

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One of the uncles of the deceased, Arthur Charles Carey, might have married in Christchurch, in 1918.

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He'd been born in Tunbridge Wells in 1897.

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We can't find him over here but we have found an Arthur C Carey with the

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right wife and a child on the 1930 census from New Jersey in America.

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The early 1900s saw a huge swathe

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of emigration to the New World,

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and the Heir Hunters will often do a search across the pond if they have lost the trail in the UK.

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It could be that one stem has gone to America.

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This inspired piece of research has netted another Carey, as well.

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We've now managed to track two of them over to America.

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Now, what we've been able to find is their immigration records into

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America, so these are the shipping records into America.

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Shipping lines kept records of their employees and passengers.

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They even list obscure information such as eye colour and height.

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The Heir Hunters can use these to trace people's movements.

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Not only have they found Arthur, but they found his brother Frederick's cross into the US.

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This is very very important for us because instead of looking through all our records

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in here, in England and Wales, we now have to look in America.

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By cross referencing American Social Security files and American census,

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on one of the genealogical websites, Neil's found a current address

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for the descendants of Arthur Carey... Reginald's uncle.

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I've got a phone number for him.

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What's the time in New Jersey?

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-8.30 in the morning.

-At 1.30, Tony's lunch will have to wait.

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'Hello.'

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Hello. Sorry to trouble you. Is that Mrs Carey?

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Hello. You don't know me at all.

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I'm ringing from London, in England. Hopefully, you can help.

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It's an enquiry about the late Peter Carey.

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Oh, you don't know him at all.

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You sounded a lot younger than I thought you were going to be.

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It looks like Tony has got straight through to a potential heir.

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Arthur Carey's granddaughter, Barbara.

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As your dad's dead, his entitlement, if it does turn out to be correct,

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wouldn't go to your mum because she's not a blood relative of your father.

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But it would pass down to yourself as a child.

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So, can I ask you, do you have any other brothers or sisters?

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It's just what the Heir Hunters were hoping for.

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Barbara ties up the stem for Tony.

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She confirms her surviving brother Peter and the children

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of her late brother Paul will also be beneficiaries.

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It's too early to say how much they will inherit

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because the Heir Hunters are still unpicking the family tree.

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It's just on two o'clock, and even the difficult to please Tony is chuffed.

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So it looks fairly positive on the face of it.

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But there's no time to waste.

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With so many possible heirs, a rival company could easily

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have found most of them already.

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So Tony needs to keep up the pace.

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He puts in a call to Massachusetts to contact Reginald's uncle Frederick's family.

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-'Hello.'

-Oh, hello. Sorry to trouble you. Mrs Carey?

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Would you be a relative?

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"Just" his mother-in-law? That's more than enough. Hello.

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Tony hits the jackpot.

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He's got through to the mother in law of Warren Carey.

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He is the grandson of Frederick, who was Reginald's uncle.

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She confirms that Warren has two brothers...

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Ronald and David, who are still living and therefore, heirs.

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That makes seven living heirs on the Carey side. There may be more.

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Thank you very much, indeed.

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Bye.

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That's Warren's mother-in-law.

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Okey dokey.

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It's late afternoon and the investigation into the Reginald Hicks' case is still in full flow.

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They may have cracked a few heirs on the Carey side of the family but the

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Hicks side is still wide open to the competition.

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They need one last push to find a Hicks heir.

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The research team are running the microfiches ragged,

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searching through birth records when suddenly, just before 4.30pm...

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there's a breakthrough.

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Just through persistence and more and more research,

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they've been able to find some beneficiaries actually in England.

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Reginald had six uncles and aunts on the Hicks side of the family.

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Tony has tracked down Ivy, the granddaughter of Arthur Hicks.

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Jolly good. Well, that's all right.

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-Hopefully, we'll make your week when we see you.

-It's great news.

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Ivy is based in Cornwall, just over the border with Plymouth.

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Tony arranges for travelling heir hunter Ewart to call on her

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in the morning, but for some reason, Ewart's not that happy at having to overnight in Plymouth.

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It's Valentine's Day, thanks, Tone.

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Oh, yes, so it is. Well, I'm sorry about that, Ewart.

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If you want, I'll ring up and apologise for you.

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It's been a busy day for the team at Frasers and they've found

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at least nine heirs before competing Heir Hunters.

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But Neil thinks they've barely scratched the surface of the sprawling Carey-Hicks families.

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Maternal side is still

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early stages.

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We've solved two stems in America

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but they're not complete yet.

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The race to track down all the heirs will continue in the morning, but

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right now, Ewart's feeling a little resentful about the call of duty.

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This is what I've resorted to on Valentine's Day.

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Spending the night by myself on Valentine's Day in a hotel in Plymouth.

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Every day, people pass away having lost touch with family.

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Often they leave a legacy, but with no relatives on hand,

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the money sits in the bank until someone can claim the cash.

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Could you be due an inheritance?

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John Goring passed away in Welwyn Garden City

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in Hertfordshire in 2006.

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He was just 55 when he died, leaving the huge sum of £85,000.

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Are you related to John?

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Do you someone who is?

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Robert Hayes Moore died in Derby on 19th October 2005, at the age of 73,

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leaving a small fortune of £25,000.

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Are you a member of Robert's family?

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Could you be in line to inherit his cash?

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Albinas Dulinskas passed away in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

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He was 81 when he died, leaving a tidy sum of £25,000.

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Are you a relative? If so, you could be entitled to his money.

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If you do know any of these people, please look at our website.

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When the chase is on, the Frasers team are never sure where the hunt will take them. While some families

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prove to be far flung and prolific, needing days of research, others

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have a tree drawn up and heirs signed before the morning is out.

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One thing every case has in common, though, is the amount of energy the Heir Hunters throw at it.

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-Morning, John.

-Hello.

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This was certainly what happened when the team took on

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the investigation of the estate of Norman Struebig three months ago.

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What's it say? Struebig?

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Struebig. Struebig.

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Norman Struebig was 79 when he died in 2006.

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He had lived in this sheltered accommodation in Haywards Heath.

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Quirky or strange names are always popular with the Heir Hunters

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because the more unique a name, the easier it is to trace.

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It makes the research much easier for us, much quicker, but it also invites in a lot of competition

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and we may find on this estate that we have a lot of competition working against us.

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So they need to get researchers on to this as soon as possible.

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Do you want to take that case?

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Partner Charles Fraser gives the job to case manager Marcus Herbert.

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Struebig - never even heard of it before.

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It's not Welsh.

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I would say it's Dutch. Something like that, but what do I know?

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Nothing actually, not at this time of the morning. But there you go.

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Partner Neil Fraser can think of several good reasons for looking into the Struebig estate.

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There's a probate for the mother.

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Now, the mother didn't die too long ago, but when she died,

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she left an estate of £165,000,

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but as we think Norman is an only child,

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we're fairly confident that this £165,000 would pass down to him.

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So the Heir Hunters know that Norman had some money at some point,

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but the question is... did he keep hold of it?

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The team start targeting the name

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Struebig in the basic birth and marriage records they have on file.

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In the peace and quiet of a Sussex village, another Fraser employee.

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Travelling heir hunter Bob Smith is ready to get in on the action.

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-Hello, Bob.

-Hello, Charles.

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-How are you?

-I'm OK. Yeah.

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-Fighting fit and raring to go.

-Good.

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Actually, you're close to Haywards Heath.

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Yeah. I'm very close.

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-So is Paul Barratt.

-No, no, no, no.

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-So you're closer?

-Paul Barratt lives in Surrey, up in Leatherhead.

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He's twice the distance.

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OK. I'll send you to Haywards Heath.

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Yes. Yes.

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We're going to somewhere in Sussex.

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Bob Smith's job is to collect Norman Struebig's death certificate.

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Frasers are hoping that the informant and addresses listed on

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the document will reveal vital clues in the hunt for Norman's family.

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He is one of a group of satellite agents working for Frasers throughout the UK.

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They spend each Thursday hunting down clues.

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With Bob Smith collecting the death certificate, Charles rings Bob Barratt

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-to get him to collect the birth certificate.

-Hi, Bob.

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-It's Charles again.

-Hello, Charles.

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-I'm going to send you to get the birth on Struebig.

-Right.

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And I think it's more likely to be actually in the Harrowgate Register Office,

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-which is Wood Green.

-OK.

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Back in the office, Marcus is already feeling the pressure.

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Oh, God, I want to go home.

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He knows that competing firms will be hot on his heels and when it comes to creating the family tree

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he can't find the wood for all the Struebigs.

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Struebig is more common than you think.

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There's loads of them in the London area.

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We don't know what families they're attached to at the moment.

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Our lot are born in Holborn/Islington.

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-There's a load of others born in Holborn/Islington.

-It's 8.15am.

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Marcus decides to sit down with colleague John to create

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a huge family tree of the Struebigs they found and then eliminate them one by one.

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Sorry. Let's just get it down so we know what we're doing.

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There's an Edna.

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Stick Edna down somewhere.

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In a bid to cut down the number of Struebigs, Marcus sends a researcher

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to Islington Register Office.

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This is where the majority of the births and marriages in the Struebig name are registered.

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The Register's databases are more detailed and he's hoping it will speed the process of elimination.

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If I can do that and knock some of them off and attach to other families. Yeah?

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Whilst John and Marcus get down to eliminating Struebigs, the team have already traced

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Norman's birth and can now confirm that his parents were

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Albert and Elsie Young and that they were married in Islington in 1924.

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On the maternal side, they have found that although Elsie

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had a brother and a sister, they died with no children.

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Having eliminated the Youngs, it's all up to the Struebigs.

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It's bang on nine o'clock.

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Travelling heir hunter Bob Smith

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arrives at the Haywards Heath Register Office to order up Norman's death certificate.

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The Fraser team is hoping the person who registered the death is a relative, but they'll have

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to wait for the bureaucratic wheels to turn before they find that out.

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In London, Marcus is still eliminating Struebigs.

0:27:020:27:06

Hello, mate. Right. Well, Rose and Lilian is wrong.

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Yeah. And also,

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William George, born in Holborn in 1900.

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And he has something to smile about.

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On the maternal side, the Struebig side of the family,

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I've identified an aunt and identified a marriage for her.

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Hopefully there'll be children off of it and hopefully it'll be up to date within half an hour.

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I'm positive of it.

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So Marcus may have found an heir.

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It seems that Norman had an aunt Florence who married Thomas Stanes.

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They had a daughter. Doris Florence Stanes, born in 1923.

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If she's still alive, she'll be Norman's cousin and heir.

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So, we're on it. We've got somebody we're looking for who could quite conceivably still be alive.

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So the office team are relieved to have found a possible heir and in Haringey, travelling heir hunter

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-Bob Barratt has some news.

-Hello.

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-Hello, Marcus.

-Hello, mate. All right.

0:28:020:28:06

Yep. Right. I'm really impressed with Haringey.

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-It's a busy place and yet they manage to produce certificates in about ten minutes.

-Oh, right.

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-I wish they were all like that.

-Yeah.

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It seems, however, their worst fears have been realised.

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I don't know whether you're aware, there might be competition.

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-Apparently this is the second request for the certificate this morning.

-Ah, right.

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I'll speak to you later.

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Cheers. Bye.

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Well, the competition might have to run to catch the Fraser boys.

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Stanes spelt without an "I" is another unusual name.

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Researcher Derek Curwin has managed to track down

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Norman's cousin Doris Stanes by doing a search on the internet.

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Ireland.

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My good friend here has found that the cousin of the deceased is now in Portrush in Northern Ireland.

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It seems Marcus has found his first heir.

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So, she's quite elderly but she sounds like an educated person.

0:29:010:29:04

She was a lecturer at a university in Ulster, or something.

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So I'm going to give her a call now.

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Hello. Is that Doris Stanes?

0:29:100:29:13

Oh, hello there. I'm so sorry to trouble you.

0:29:130:29:15

My name is Marcus Herbert.

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It concerns the family name of Struebig.

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Struebig, that's it.

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In just one phone call, Marcus has found out a wealth of information

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from Norman's cousin Doris Stanes.

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What looked like a huge family of possibly 30 or 40 beneficiaries

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just on this one side of the family, Marcus has now managed

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to eliminate off quite a few and it's down to just two beneficiaries.

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It's quite good news for us, really.

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It seems that Albert, Norman's uncle,

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had five brothers and sisters, but only three of them had offspring.

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Albert had Norman. His sister Florence had Doris,

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and another sister, Doris, had a daughter called Jennifer.

0:30:000:30:04

Bye-bye.

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Yes.

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How about that?

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With all of the aunts and uncles confirmed deceased, it appears that

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Doris and Jennifer are now the sole heirs to Norman's estate.

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That's what we want,

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so I'm chuffed.

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So I can sit back and relax for ten minutes now.

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But Marcus doesn't have time to crow too loudly.

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The competition is still on the case so they need to get to the final heir fast.

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In Haywards Heath, Bob Smith has collected the death certificate.

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Thank you very much, indeed. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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He phones it into Marcus.

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-How are you, mate?

-I'm OK. And you?

0:30:460:30:48

-Yeah. I'm all right. It's up to date.

-Oh, is it? Where?

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We've got a cousin in Reading, who's married to a doctor.

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And we've got a first cousin who's about 84

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and she's living in Portrush.

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I'll give you the details anyway.

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He had Down's Syndrome.

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Oh. Right.

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So, obviously, maybe his parents died, he ended up in a home.

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If Norman was living in a care home for a long time, most of his fortune will have been eaten up by the fees.

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This will affect the value of this case.

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But because the case has made quick progress, the team decide to let the investigation run its course.

0:31:280:31:34

Researcher Derek has got the contact for Jennifer...

0:31:340:31:38

-Norman's cousin and the final heir.

-Thank you.

0:31:380:31:41

Marcus is on the phone to her now, but will he have got there before any rival Heir Hunters?

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The reason I'm ringing is I've just been speaking to your cousin Doris Stanes in Ireland.

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We're trying to find members of the Struebig family.

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I have a colleague of mine who is out on the road at the moment and I wonder

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whether it would be at all possible to make an appointment with yourself to come and see you regarding this?

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It's Marcus' lucky day.

0:32:070:32:09

They agree to see Bob Barratt.

0:32:090:32:11

It's only 10.15am and not only has the case been solved,

0:32:160:32:20

but Marcus has spoken to both heirs.

0:32:200:32:23

He has every reason to be pleased with the result.

0:32:230:32:25

We've got the area here anyway.

0:32:250:32:27

Take it from there.

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I'm going to see Mrs Peabody.

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It's just after lunch and Bob Barratt's arrived

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at the home of Jennifer Peabody, Norman Struebig's cousin and heir.

0:32:380:32:41

-Mr Peabody.

-Mr Barratt. Hi.

0:32:410:32:46

Nice to meet you. Thanks very much.

0:32:460:32:48

-I'm a few minutes early.

-That's fine.

-Excellent.

0:32:480:32:50

-OK. Hello.

-Hello, Mrs Peabody. Thanks very much.

-Come in.

0:32:500:32:53

-Please come in.

-Thank you.

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In the end, Bob Barratt did get there before the competition.

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For Jennifer Peabody, it seems the inheritance was a surprise,

0:33:000:33:05

but Norman wasn't unknown to her.

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I probably haven't seen Norman since I was about 15.

0:33:100:33:15

He was quite a tall young man and slim with quite a narrow head.

0:33:150:33:21

He wasn't at all like a...

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his physique wasn't at all like a typical Down's person.

0:33:250:33:28

Yes, I can visualise him quite well.

0:33:300:33:34

Despite all the Heir Hunters' hard work, Jennifer decided

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she would put in her own claim for her cousin Norman Struebig's estate.

0:33:380:33:42

Marcus is philosophical.

0:33:420:33:45

Brilliant case.

0:33:450:33:46

The research went extremely well.

0:33:460:33:50

Unfortunately, the family really decided to go it alone, I think.

0:33:500:33:54

But at least the Peabodys know what happened to cousin Norman.

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Some years ago, we did make some efforts to find out where he was but we got nowhere...

0:34:000:34:05

and I rather think that we thought that he had died.

0:34:050:34:08

Yes. That's it.

0:34:080:34:11

I think we're both quite astonished.

0:34:110:34:13

Yes. It's sad.

0:34:130:34:15

-Feel sad.

-That no relatives or apparent next of kin and you know,

0:34:150:34:21

sort of dying on your own in a hospital or nursing home.

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No visitors...presumably.

0:34:250:34:26

So it's a bit sad, really. Yeah.

0:34:260:34:31

The Heir Hunters have been following the case of Reginald Hicks who lived in this house in Plymouth.

0:34:380:34:43

He died leaving an estate which the Heir Hunters have valued at around £200,000.

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They've already contacted nine heirs, mainly in America, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.

0:34:490:34:55

They are investigating both the mother and the father's sides of the family and this is no small task.

0:34:550:35:00

Seven, eight, nine kids there.

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-Plus five off his first marriage.

-He's a busy boy.

0:35:030:35:05

14 children. That's not bad for a butcher, is it?

0:35:050:35:08

It's 9am on day two of the hunt and senior researcher Gareth Langford

0:35:100:35:15

has just received the death certificate for one of Reginald's uncles, also named Reginald.

0:35:150:35:21

This was Reginald Carey, which is correct.

0:35:210:35:25

It appears to be a witness, R A Carey, son, which we didn't know about.

0:35:250:35:28

So Reginald Carey had a son called R A Carey,

0:35:280:35:32

who is Reginald Hicks' cousin.

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If R A Carey had any children, they could be potential heirs.

0:35:350:35:40

The Fraser team have already found seven heirs

0:35:400:35:42

on the Carey side of the family -

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all distant cousins of Reginald Hicks living in the US.

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If R A Carey did have offspring,

0:35:480:35:50

they could be the first UK-based heirs on the Carey side.

0:35:500:35:54

But Gareth needs to find them first.

0:35:540:35:57

And while he's on a roll...

0:35:570:35:59

Neil.

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..others are eating them.

0:36:010:36:03

Having a little mothers' meeting in the corner there.

0:36:030:36:08

This is serious business we're talking here, Gareth!

0:36:080:36:12

In Plymouth, morning tea couldn't be further from the mind of travelling heir hunter Ewart.

0:36:120:36:15

I'm gutted. Absolutely gutted.

0:36:150:36:19

He's supposed to be on his way to sign Ivy Wayers,

0:36:190:36:23

Reginald Hicks' cousin and an heir, but he's going nowhere fast.

0:36:230:36:28

Malfunction in the system.

0:36:280:36:30

What does that mean?

0:36:300:36:33

Instead, he's off to get a hire car.

0:36:330:36:36

Let's hope any rivals don't pip him to the post.

0:36:360:36:39

At least I got a new car.

0:36:390:36:42

10.40. The appointment was set for ten o'clock.

0:36:440:36:47

40 minutes late at this precise moment.

0:36:470:36:53

And I've probably got about another 20 minutes' drive so I'll probably be about an hour late.

0:36:530:36:58

I've notified the client anyway.

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Back in the office, Gareth's hard work has paid off.

0:37:020:37:05

Reginald's cousin R A Carey

0:37:050:37:08

was called Robert, and Gareth has found he did have children.

0:37:080:37:13

He's even found the contact for the youngest son, Christopher Carey.

0:37:130:37:17

As the son of a cousin,

0:37:170:37:20

Christopher is a cousin once removed and that makes him an heir.

0:37:200:37:22

But will he be home and has the competition got there before him?

0:37:220:37:26

Hello, Mr Carey?

0:37:260:37:28

Hello, Mr Carey.

0:37:280:37:30

Sorry to trouble you. Hopefully you can help.

0:37:300:37:32

I'm ringing from central London.

0:37:320:37:34

I'm representing a company of probate researchers.

0:37:340:37:36

We trace missing heirs and beneficiaries.

0:37:360:37:38

I'm hoping that you'd be Christopher R Carey, son of the late Robert Anthony Carey.

0:37:380:37:44

-Oh, good. Well, how is that?

-In Cornwall,

0:37:440:37:48

Ewart has arrived at Ivy's house.

0:37:480:37:51

Her grandfather was Arthur Hicks, Reginald's uncle, making Ivy his cousin once removed.

0:37:510:37:58

Hello. Mrs Wayers? Hello.

0:37:580:38:00

My name's Ewart Lynsey from Fraser and Fraser.

0:38:000:38:03

The estate is worth £200,000 and there are nine heirs already found.

0:38:030:38:08

Her share could be in the region of 20,000.

0:38:080:38:12

It looks like Ewart's long two days have been worth it.

0:38:120:38:15

-Thank you very much. Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:38:150:38:18

Ivy agrees to sign to Frasers,

0:38:180:38:20

but there's a sad note to the legacy.

0:38:200:38:24

My brother said that a gentleman was coming about our lost grandfather.

0:38:240:38:30

And I...

0:38:300:38:33

couldn't understand, not really, because we've never heard anything

0:38:330:38:37

about him, except for he went off to America.

0:38:370:38:40

It seems that Arthur Hicks abandoned Ivy's grandmother and her children for a new life in the US.

0:38:400:38:48

My mother was always crying that she could not find her daddy.

0:38:480:38:53

And that always hurt us...very much.

0:38:530:38:56

And I said to the gentleman...

0:38:560:38:58

if my mother was living, if there is anything, I would give it all to her.

0:38:580:39:04

There's my mum.

0:39:040:39:06

Very pretty woman.

0:39:060:39:09

She had such a heartache at not finding her dad.

0:39:090:39:13

For Ivy, the news of the inheritance is obviously bittersweet.

0:39:150:39:21

Back in the office, the team are confident they found

0:39:210:39:23

all the heirs on Reginald's father's side of the family.

0:39:230:39:27

I don't think there's going to be anybody else on the paternal side

0:39:270:39:29

of the family, for Ewart to be dealing with.

0:39:290:39:31

I think the rest of it is going to be up here in Ashford in Kent.

0:39:310:39:34

While Ewart's been with Ivy, 275 miles away,

0:39:340:39:38

in Ashford, Kent, another travelling heir hunter, Dave Hadley,

0:39:380:39:45

is on his way to see an heir from the Carey side of the family.

0:39:450:39:48

Hello. Mr Christopher Carey?

0:39:490:39:52

David Hadley from Fraser and Fraser.

0:39:520:39:54

There's my card for you.

0:39:540:39:55

How do you do?

0:39:550:39:57

I'm very well, thank you. And you?

0:39:570:39:59

-Fine. Fine.

-Christopher Carey's grandfather was Reginald Carey,

0:39:590:40:03

Reginald Hicks' uncle, making him a cousin once removed.

0:40:030:40:07

Can he fill in any more blanks on the Carey family tree?

0:40:070:40:11

-I know absolutely nothing about my father.

-Really?

0:40:110:40:16

Absolutely nothing. I never knew him.

0:40:160:40:19

How old were you then when he left?

0:40:190:40:20

Four or five.

0:40:200:40:22

I just didn't know him.

0:40:220:40:24

Oh, he was an electrician.

0:40:240:40:27

-Right.

-That's it.

0:40:270:40:29

Do you know when he died?

0:40:290:40:30

Yeah. I didn't actually,

0:40:300:40:33

until your man on the phone reminded me.

0:40:330:40:37

-Oh, right.

-'71. My mum was in America visiting my sister and I was

0:40:370:40:42

opening the letters to make sure there was nothing there

0:40:420:40:45

cos she was over there for three months or four months or something,

0:40:450:40:49

and it came through that he had died.

0:40:490:40:51

I told her

0:40:510:40:54

when she got home...

0:40:540:40:56

He'd been out of our lives for, I don't know,

0:41:030:41:07

30 years, 20-something years, and she cried her eyes out for two days.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's not unusual.

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-It's not unusual.

-Cor, dear.

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That's what love does to you, you see.

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I think it must have been.

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It seems that Christopher's story

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tragically mirrors that of the other heir, Ivy.

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One may be a Carey and the other a Hicks,

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but both of them are first cousins once removed of Reginald Hicks.

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And both of them came from a family abandoned by an itinerant father.

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Dave Hadley leaves Christopher the paperwork to think it all over.

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He's a very nice man.

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He is the gentleman that we were looking for and I've got all the information from him that I require.

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He wants to consider his position as to whether

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he wants to become a client of ours,

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which is fine with us, and I hope that he'll contact us very shortly.

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It's been a satisfying result for Frasers but it's not over yet.

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I think we've probably found 50% to 75% of the beneficiaries at the moment, after two days of research.

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We hope to have it tied up but it's going to take us maybe another week or two.

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Although the case could be in the region of £200,000, there are so many heirs

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that each share of the estate is likely to be small.

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Christopher Carey is not complaining, though.

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He can think of a few uses for the cash.

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At least one ice-cream.

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Possibly a pair of socks.

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Or I'll go really wild and buy a new hat.

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But further than that, my ambitions are a bit limited, I'm afraid.

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