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Welcome to Heir Hunters, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
where we uncover long-forgotten family secrets and help unite people | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
with family money they never knew was theirs. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Today, the Heir Hunters are scouring the country for the beneficiaries | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
of an estate worth thousands of pounds. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Hello, Hector Birchwood speaking. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Someone, somewhere could be about to inherit a substantial sum of money. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
Could the Heir Hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Coming up on today's programme... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Saving lives under enemy fire... | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
You were treating the wounded, but you might very well | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
become wounded yourself. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
A case that goes right to the heart of World War II. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
I find out about wartime romances. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Did British girls really fall for the charms of foreign soldiers? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
They were exciting, often taller and better-looking | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and there were a whole load of romances | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
and marriages between British women and troops from overseas. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
And an heir hunt with a sting in its tail sends the Heir Hunters | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
right back to square one. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
It meant all the research we've carried out until now | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
had been a waste of time. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Plus, how you may be entitled to inherit an unclaimed estate | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
held by the Treasury. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Every year in the UK, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
If no relatives are found, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
then any money that's left behind will go to the Government. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
Last year, they made £14 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
That's where the Heir Hunters come in. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
There are over 30 specialist firms who make it their business | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
to track down missing relatives and help them claim | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
their rightful inheritance. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
People are entitled to this money. We make sure they get it. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Today, the Heir Hunters are investigating the case of a man | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
from Milton Keynes who died years ago without leaving a will. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Despite an unusual name, no family have been found. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
It's a busy weekday morning | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
and already heir hunting firms across the country are hard at work. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Heir hunter Peter Birchwood has just received | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
a tip-off about a man who died in 2004, but whose case | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
has remained unsolved for the past seven years. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
I received an e-mail from a man who thinks he is related to a | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
Brian Yanchuk, who died a few years back. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
Although a lot of their cases come from the list of unclaimed estates | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
that the Treasury publish every Thursday, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
sometimes they receive information from individuals who need help. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
In this case, the person in question, Brian Yanchuk, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
had died without a will in 2004. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
His estate had been advertised, but had gone unnoticed, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
but someone who believed he was his cousin had become concerned | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
and contacted Peter. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I told Peter I thought Brian Alexander Yanchuk | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
was my cousin and there wouldn't be many Yanchuks in Milton Keynes. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
Celtic Research have been in the heir hunting business | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
for the past 40 years. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
The company is run by father-and-son team | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Peter and Hector Birchwood | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
and they employ a team of regional heir hunters throughout the UK. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Between them, they solve over 300 cases a year. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Yanchuk is an extremely rare name in the UK. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
It obviously wasn't of British origin, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
so where did it come from? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
There are a whole multitude of them back in Eastern Europe. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
There are villages full of Yanchuks in the Ukraine. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
This could make the team's task much more difficult. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
If Brian Yanchuk was born in the Ukraine, many family records | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and certificates would also be in that country | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and the team would have to enlist the help | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
of an Eastern European agent to access them. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
Brian Yanchuk died on 17 December 2004 in Milton Keynes | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
in Buckinghamshire, leaving an estate worth approximately £12,000. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
But he left no will | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
and only a couple of childhood photos of him survive. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
For Gavin Sweeney, who grew up on Brian's street, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Brian was a permanent fixture in the neighbourhood. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
He was part of the furniture, you could say, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
part of the street. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
I just remember him having a drink, always having that can in his hand, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
having a fag on the bottom of his stairs and when I got older, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
there was always a "hello", even if he had a drink | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
or something like that, or if he's sitting on his steps, on the grass | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
or passing by, it was always, "You all right, Gav?" | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
"Yeah, Brian, all right, mate," and that was it. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Brian was proud of his flat on the estate and always kept it | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
spick and span, as his neighbour June remembers. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
His flat was very clean, you know. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
He used to have spider plants in his bedroom and bathroom | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
and his living room, loads of them and that's how I remember him by. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
He was also a regular at the local pub, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
along with his drinking buddy, Jimmy. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
They used to chat and tell each other their problems. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
They used to go to the pub together. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Sadly, Jimmy died | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
several years before Brian, and without his friend, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Brian went into a downward spiral. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
He just went downhill since then, you know. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
He went downhill because he didn't have anybody to talk to. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
He only had Jimmy. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
But Brian left his mark on the community he lived in | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and is remembered fondly by the people who knew him. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
We've lost someone, like I say, that has been part of the furniture, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
part of the street, really, and someone that's been there | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
for a very, very long time, sadly missed as far as I'm concerned. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
God rest Brian. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
In the office, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
Peter Birchwood has been looking for a birth record for Brian. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
He was worried that, with a name like Yanchuk, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
he might have been born overseas. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I was fully expecting him not to be registered, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
because he was from the Ukraine or somewhere in Eastern Europe. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
But luckily, on this occasion, his hunch proved incorrect. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
No, here he is, he's born in the Wandsworth area. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
This is a huge relief. Now the team know Brian was born in London, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
they can begin the search for his heirs in this country. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
Armed with his date of birth and his date of death, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
they can move on to the next stage of their research. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Between those two periods, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
there's every possibility he may have married, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
he may have had children, so we look for those events. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
We make sure that if he's married, we know who | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
his wife is, if he's got children, we know their names, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
but in this instance, Brian never seems to have married, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
so therefore, doesn't also appear to have had any children. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
With no wife or children in the picture, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
the team must now go up a generation to Brian's parents | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
to find out when they were married | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
and whether they had any children other than Brian. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Peter sends Hector to Wandsworth Register Office in south London | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
to pick up Brian's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
-Hi, there. Good afternoon. -Hello. -I'm Hector Birchwood. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
I'm just here to pick up a certificate. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Certificates play a crucial role in the heir hunting process. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
They supply vital information, such as dates, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
names of parents, addresses and occupations. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
So a lot is riding on this one piece of paper. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
That's right. The certificate is all done for you. It's in the envelope. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-Thank you. Have a good afternoon. Goodbye. -Bye-bye. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
It will help the team first, to establish | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
whether Brian has any siblings and second, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
to uncover more information about his parents' families. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
If Brian has no siblings, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
the team will have to look for aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
If they are still alive, they could be heirs to his estate. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
The certificate tells Hector that Brian's father, Alexander Yanchuk, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
married Violet Smith in Battersea in 1941. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
And it also provides some surprising information about Brian's father. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
Alexander Yanchuk, bachelor, Private number H11058, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
Canadian Field Ambulance. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
His home address is in Fort William, Ontario in Canada. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
Although he has a Ukrainian name, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
it appears that Brian's father, Alexander, may have been born | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
in Canada and once again, this complicates matters. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
While the team will need to look for records of Brian's mother's family | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
in the UK, on the father's side, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
they may have to turn their attention to Canada. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Heir hunting cases often cross borders and continents, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
as families move around in search of work and a better life. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
But how did Brian's father's family end up in Canada | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
and what brought his father, Alexander, from Canada to the UK? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
In the 1890s, the Canadian government began to actively | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
encourage immigration from Eastern Europe. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Canada was underpopulated and settlers were needed to come | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and occupy its vast prairies and cultivate the land. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Keen to escape hardship in their own country and attracted by | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
offers of free land in Canada, tens of thousands of Ukrainian peasants | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
responded to the call. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Thus began a wave of Ukrainian emigration to Canada, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
which continued until the Second World War. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Brian's paternal ancestors | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
were probably part of this Ukrainian exodus. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
They settled in Canada, where Brian's father grew up. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
He worked as a farmer there until the Second World War. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
When the war started, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
he joined the Royal Canadian Army Medical Corps. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
During the Second World War, Canada made a terrific contribution | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
to the Allied cause. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
It had the third-largest Allied navy | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and the fourth-largest air force | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and an army of just over 700,000 men and women, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
and Canada lost 42,000 men and women killed during the Second World War. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Although Canada didn't introduce conscription for overseas service, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
a vast number of people volunteered to go | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and serve alongside the Allies in Europe. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Many of these volunteers were from Canada's immigrant population. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
A large number of the descendants | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and even immigrants themselves, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
that have come from the Ukraine to Canada, felt that they too, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
should play a part. Britain was at war, Canada was at war | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and they should play a part in the fighting. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
The Canadian army numbered 730,000 men and women. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
Of that number, 35,000 served in the Royal Canadian Army Medical Corps. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
Brian's father, Alexander, was one of those 35,000. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
He worked as a private in a field ambulance. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
The field ambulance was the basic medical unit. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
They were the ones that actually dealt with the immediate casualties | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
caused by enemy fire on the battlefields. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
They would transport the wounded men to regimental aid posts | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
and from there, to casualty clearing stations and ultimately hospitals. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
Alexander's exact role in the field ambulance is unclear, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
but it seems likely he worked as a driver. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
It may very well have been that Alexander, as a farmer, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
drove a tractor on his farm and of course, his driving skills would have | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
been transferred into driving ambulances, jeeps or trucks, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
in transporting the wounded from the battlefield. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
When the war ended, Alexander and Violet settled in England. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
Brian came along seven years later | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
and they don't appear to have had any other children. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Now that Peter has established | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
that Brian was unmarried and had no children or siblings, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
he must expand his search to look for aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
In order to do this, he'd normally go up to the deceased | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
grandparents on both the mother's and father's side of the family, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
and then try to identify all the children these grandparents had. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
But as Brian's father's side of the family are likely to be back | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
in Canada or the Ukraine, Peter turns his attention | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
to the maternal family in his search for heirs. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
And now he really has his work cut out. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Brian's mother's maiden name is Smith. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So his search takes him from one of the most uncommon names in Britain, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
to one of the most common. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
But how does an English girl with the surname Smith | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
end up with a Canadian soldier? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Brian Yanchuk's parents, Violet and Alexander, married in 1941 | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
and settled in England after World War II, but they weren't | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
the only wartime sweethearts. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
I'm meeting historian Dr Lucy Noakes, who I am hoping | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
can tell me more about wartime love affairs. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
-Hello, Lucy. Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Brian's dad, Alexander, was a Canadian soldier, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
so why was he over here in 1941? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
He would have been one of many, almost half a million Canadian men | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
who came to Britain during the Second World War. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Most of these came over as members of the Canadian forces | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
and many came over just before D-day in 1944. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
But many others came over early on in the war and joined as members | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
of the British forces. Because of Canada being a dominion, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Canadian men had the opportunity to join the British Army, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
the RAF and the Navy. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
How might Violet Smith and Alexander Yanchuk have met? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Violet Smith was a young, unmarried woman | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
and although conscription for women wasn't introduced | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
until late 1941, before that period, many young women were employed | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
in war work, working in the factories, on farms, in services. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
If, like Violet Smith, you were a young woman | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
without domestic responsibilities, you were classified as mobile. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
That meant you could be asked to go wherever you were needed, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
such as a munitions factory a long way from home. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Lots of these women for the very first time were a long way | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
from parental control. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
They had a greater degree of social freedom | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
than they would have had before the war, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
so there was much more opportunity for women to meet young men, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
who were also away from home, for example at dances, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
at army bases and air force bases. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
There was also a lot of social disapproval of this, as well, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
particularly of young women, who were seen by some as being | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
more interested in romance and excitement than war work. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Is it true that British women at the time loved the foreign soldiers? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
It seems so. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
They were slightly different, there were exciting, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
they were often taller and better-looking, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
because they were better fed, and there were a whole load of romances | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
and marriages between British women and troops from overseas. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Whether they met at a dance hall or through war work is unknown, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
but the relationship between Canadian soldier | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Alexander Yanchuk and Violet Smith from England flourished. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
The couple married on 20 August 1941. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Why might the couple have married in 1941 and not waited | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
until the end of the war? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
There were lots of people who married early on in the war, lots who didn't | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
wait until after the war and there were several reasons for this. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
They might have married purely for practical reasons, or at least | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
partly purely for practical reasons, it might have been a way of | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
ensuring that she had some money, she got a separation allowance. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
She would've got a small widow's pension if he had been killed | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
in action, and she'd have been certain of being informed as his | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
next of kin if he had been killed, if he was missing in action, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
if he'd been injured. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
Also, at the end of 1941, the Canadian government introduced an Act | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
which meant that all Canadian servicemen, if they were planning to | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
marry a woman abroad, had to declare proof that they weren't already | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
married, because we think there'd been some cases of bigamy already. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
They also had to prove they could support that woman | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
when they were released from military service, and crucially, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
they had to provide ten dollars a month from their military pay, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
in order to pay their bride's travel to Canada after the war. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
If this couple were thinking already of staying on in Britain, after the | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
war, they may not have wanted to spend that money | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
and then, of course, they may just have fallen in love. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
It was wartime, it was exciting | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
and you never knew what was around the corner, so lots of people | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
married very quickly, early on in relationships during the war. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
There were many wartime romances | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
and marriages between Canadian soldiers and British women, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and around 45,000 war brides | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
left their homeland for a new life in post-war Canada. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Alexander and Violet, however, settled in England. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
And why would the UK have appealed to a Canadian soldier so much, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
after the war? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Canada had particularly strong links to Britain. It was a dominion, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
part of the Empire, there had been a lot of migration | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
from Britain to Canada, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
both at the end of the 19th century and after the First World War, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
so there were often strong family links. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
However in Alexander's case, he didn't have strong family links | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
to Britain, so maybe it was just because he fell in love | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
and they wanted to stay here. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
Still to come... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
the search for heirs to Brian Yanchuk's estate goes right | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
to the heart of war-torn London. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
I remember these old tenements and they was three storeys high. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
And there used to be families on every floor. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
How one London family coped after the Blitz tore their city apart... | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
They wanted somewhere to live and there wasn't anywhere, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
because half of London was destroyed. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Next the team investigate the case of a man from Sussex, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
who died without leaving a will. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Sometimes, families are keepers of secrets | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
passed down from generation to generation. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Once these secrets come out into the open, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
they can turn an heir hunt completely on its head. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
This is what happened in the case of Alexander Gibson. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Alexander died on 22 July 2004 in Brighton in Sussex. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
He was 82 years old. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
He spent the last seven years of his life in a nursing home | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
in neighbouring Hove, just a stone's throw from the sea. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
Prior to this, he lived with his mother | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
in a flat in the Preston Park area of Brighton. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Alexander left an estate of £70,000, but died without leaving a will. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
His case was taken up by heir hunter Bob Smith. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
We were originally contacted by the solicitors who had been | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
acting on behalf of our deceased, during his lifetime. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
The deceased had died, there were no known family members, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
and they'd sought our assistance to try and locate a family member | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
who could administer his estate. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Bob's first step | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
was to establish whether Alexander had a wife and children. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
We tried to identify any marriages of the deceased. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
He was born in Kent and died in Sussex, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
so we stuck to the south-east. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
No marriages were identified, so we then assumed he had no children. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
With no wife or children in the picture, the next thing | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
the team had to do was to track down Alexander's parents. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
We then obtained a copy of his birth certificate which gave | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
his parents' details | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
as John Gibson and Winifred Daisy Gibson, nee Clift. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
As we now had the names of the parents, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
we then identified their marriage which took place in 1920, in Medway, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and determined they had died before our deceased. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Since Alexander's parents had both passed away, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
the team had to determine whether they'd had any other children. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
We then began a search to look to see whether our deceased had any brothers | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
and sisters, and discovered he was an only child. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Alexander was born on 20 September 1921 in Gillingham in Kent. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
His mother, Winifred, was a tailoress, and his father, John, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
worked in the Chatham dockyard. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Chatham Dockyard on the River Medway | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
began its life in the 16th century, during the reign of Elizabeth I. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
It was here that the Queen's ships were built, repaired and maintained. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
Chatham Dockyard developed wooden sailing ships | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
until they were second to none and they took part in quite a few | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
major battles, which ended up with being the envy of the world | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and their foreign countries. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
Over the next 400 years, Chatham provided over 500 ships for the | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
Royal Navy. Wooden sailing ships were gradually replaced | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
by iron ships run by steam engines and in the early 1900s, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
when Alexander's father, John, worked there, Chatham began building | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
the Royal Navy's new weapon of war - the submarine. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
Captain, I have the ship. Clear the bridge for diving. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
This was an exciting time in the dockyard's history. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Submarine construction would span two world wars, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
enter the nuclear age and provide continued work | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
for Chatham Dockyard until the mid-1960s. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
'Diving now, diving now.' | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Alexander's father, John, was employed as a clerk, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
a job which was essential in keeping the dockyard running smoothly | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
at such a busy time. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
The clerks in the dockyard either worked for the cashier, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
doing the accounts and the money for the men, or for the | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
store superintendent, which would keep an account of all the things | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
that entered into the dockyard and left the dockyard on ships. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
It was considered a job for life and the skills you learnt in here, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
in some cases, couldn't be learnt anywhere else. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
After Alexander's father retired, the family moved to Brighton, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Alexander appears to have spent some time in the Royal Air Force, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
where he was employed as an engineer. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
He then worked for Brighton and Hove Council, delivering school dinners. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Having established that Alexander was unmarried | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
and had no children or siblings, the team now had to expand | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
their search to look for more distant relatives. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
We then looked for the grandparents on both the mother's | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
and father's side of the family and the list of their children, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
who, of course, would be aunts and uncles of our deceased. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
The grandparents on Alexander's mother's side of the family | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
proved easy to find. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
John Clift married Mary Ann Brain in Medway in Kent in 1893. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
They are listed as having eight children, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Alexander's mother Winifred and seven others, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
John, Florence, Eliza, Charles, Lilian, Ethel and May. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:18 | |
Of the seven maternal aunts and uncles, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
five of those had married and had children themselves | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
who would be first cousins to our deceased. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
We then had the task of tracking them down. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
One of Alexander's maternal aunts was May Clift | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
who married a Leslie in 1939. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
They had three children, including a daughter, Christine. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Christine would be a maternal first cousin and we believed would be | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
one of the family members entitled to a share of our deceased's estate. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
It looked like all the team's hard work had paid off. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Bob had found his first potential heir | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
and he wasted no time in getting in touch. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
When I opened the letter from Fraser & Fraser, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
it was a complete shock and I was surprised. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
I wondered, erm... | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
secondly, if it was a bit of a scam | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
but then the optimist in you takes over | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
and you feel quite excited thinking you might be inheriting. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
Christine was Alexander's first cousin. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
She didn't know Alexander very well | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
but she thinks she may have met him once or twice as a child. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
He was always a rather shadowy, reclusive figure | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
and I rather heard more about him than actually had contact with him. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:40 | |
Christine agreed to sign with the heir hunters | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
and the team then set about contacting the other cousins. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
In total, we had 20 first cousins we believed would be entitled to a share of our deceased's estate. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
We then began contacting those first cousins. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
But just as they were about to sign up the last heir, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
one of the cousins dropped a bombshell. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Alexander might have a closer relation who the team had not discovered. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
We were told the surprising news that a maternal aunt was, in fact, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
the illegitimate daughter of the mother of our deceased. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Coming up: all the team's research so far is thrown into disarray | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
as it looks like Alexander may have had a sister after all. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
If this information was correct, she would have a prior entitlement to all the other family members | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
that we had just contacted. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Every heir hunt depends on identifying the correct records | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
to trace back through the generations and help identify living family members. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
One of the ways heir hunters do this is through the census. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
I'm meeting genealogist Anthony Adolf who can tell me how this important set of records came about. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
-Hello, Anthony. Nice to meet you. -Hi. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
So when was the first census? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
The first of the censuses we are talking about | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
was taken in 1801 and it was really a government response to complete | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
panic at the thought we were going to be invaded by the French. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
They were going to call up as many men as they could to fight the French | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and they suddenly realised they had no idea how many people were living in this country. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
There was also a general concern for public health | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
and the Government began to realise they had to know more about who they were governing. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
So they decided to have a census - a headcount - to find out how many people there were. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
So the Government just wanted to find out more information...? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Yes, they realised they were completely ignorant. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
They had no idea how many people there were in the country. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
So, they made a count. They chose a rather odd way of doing it, though. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
They counted the people leaving the Church of England on Easter Sunday | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
and they came up with a figure of about nine million. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
They then had another census in 1811 because they sort of wanted to keep tabs on things. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
This time, they chose a different method. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
They counted the number of people in each parish. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Of course, they got a completely different figure. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
They got more people as they picked up all the non-churchgoers. They came up with over ten million. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
That meant that the population had gone up, they thought, by a million people, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
a tenth, in ten years. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
So there was a huge panic about the country being completely swamped with people | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
and we would all starve. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:22 | |
They decided they had better have censuses every ten years to keep tabs on this growing population, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
which, of course, wasn't growing as fast as they thought. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
When was the first modern census taken? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
-Well, 1841 is the first census that we use for genealogy. -Oh, OK. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
-The ones before then were just headcounts. -OK. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
The 1841 census went hand-in-hand | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
with an improvement in record keeping at this time. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
The General Register Office of England and Wales | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
was founded in 1836 with civil registration commencing in 1837. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
Looking at it now, how useful is that census? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
Well, it was a good start, but there were a lot of things they didn't do at that stage | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
which they then implemented later. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
For example, although they listed every single person in the country, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
they didn't list how they were related to each other. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
So, that's a bit of a nuisance from our point of view. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Instead of writing down exact ages, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
they said, let's round your age down to the nearest five years. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Well, that's all very well, but not very useful for us. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Then, maddeningly, instead of asking the question "Where were you born?", | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
they just said, "Were you born in this county?" | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
So, if somebody came from Staffordshire and was living in Cornwall, his answer is "no". | 0:29:32 | 0:29:38 | |
That's no use for us, is it?! | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
By the next census a decade later, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
the questions asked had been refined. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
The 1851 census did ask people in a household how they were related, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
their exact ages and where they were born. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
Why are censuses important to modern genealogical research? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
It's mainly because they tell you how people are related to each other, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
which is basically what genealogy is. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
The other main backbone of genealogy are the birth, marriage | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
and death records. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
But to find the right birth, marriage and death records, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
you often need to know when was someone born? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
You need to know where were you born? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
As soon as you know specifically where someone was born, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
you can find a birth record. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
To do that, the best thing is to look in the census cos they'll tell you. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
They are tremendously useful. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Nowadays, census records can be found on various websites. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
The latest census available to view is 1911, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
as the records are kept secret for 100 years to protect | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
the personal information of living people. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Is there anything particularly interesting about the latest census? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
That's a very nice one. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Partly you can look at the forms which the people themselves | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
filled in because the previous ones were filled in | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
by the census enumerators, the people who went round counting. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
You can actually see your ancestor filling in a form | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
and signing it and writing down what he thought should be listed. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:01 | |
It gives very good extra information. Particularly useful are, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:07 | |
they asked married couples how long they had been married. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
That's interesting in itself. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
In some cases with big Victorian families | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
they might have been married for 20 years so it's very useful. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
You know when to look for the marriage record. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
It also asked a very moving question. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
They asked how many children the couple had had, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
and how many of them were still alive. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
They were very concerned with public health and infant mortality. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Infant mortality was very high. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
That's often the first time in a family tree you'll suddenly | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
realise that one of your ancestors had lost a child, or in some cases, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
it's heartbreaking, they'll have two children alive and ten had died. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
A very interesting, quite moving question. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
It's one of the many things about a census that really brings you | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
and your ancestors much closer | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
because you do in these records see them as real people. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
The fact that they go every ten years from 1911 back to 1841 means | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
you can follow a family through, decade by decade. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
You can see how they develop, you can see when the children appear, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
you can see when they get married. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
That gives you a really good structure on which to base any other research | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
and, indeed, the censuses often tell you the story of the family. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
You can follow their fortunes and learn all sorts of things about them. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
No wonder the heir hunters find census records such | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
a valuable tool in tracking down families. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Now it's your turn to research your own ancestors. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
and millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
But not every case can be cracked. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
The Bona Vacantia Division has a list of over 2,000 unclaimed | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
estates where heirs still need to be found. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Bona Vacantia is the Latin term for ownerless property. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
We deal with two types, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
we deal with property of now dissolved companies | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
but in this context we also deal with the estates of those who die | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
without a valid will or anyone entitled to inherit. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
These cases could be worth anything from a few hundred pounds | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
to millions and they are waiting to be claimed. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Monies raised through Bona Vacantia ultimately go to the general exchequer | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
to benefit the country as a whole. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
It's important to note that the Crown doesn't want all the estates, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
at all costs. It's not how it operates. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
It wants kin to be found and that's what we work very hard to do. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Here are some names from the unsolved list. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
Could you be eligible to inherit a fortune? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
Daisy Violet Lily Rose May Poppy Fern Barnes | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
died in Fulham in London in March 2008. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Does this distinctive selection of floral names ring a bell with you? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
Could you be Daisy's heir? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
Benhilda Tandi died in Lewisham in London in August 2008. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
Benhilda is an unusual first name in the UK, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
as is the surname, Tandi, spelt with an I instead of Y. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
Do you remember Benhilda? Can you help solve this case? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Dorothy Caroline Geddes also died in London, in December 1996, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
but the vast majority of Geddes live in northern Scotland. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Were you a friend or neighbour of Dorothy's? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
If no heirs of hers are found, her money will go to the Government. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
Don't forget, distant relatives can't inherit from unclaimed estates. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
So the people that are entitled | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
are those that trace their relationship in a direct line | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
from the deceased person's grandparents. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
So a spouse would be entitled, children would be entitled, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
aunts and uncles, nephews and nieces, first cousins. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
A reminder of those names again. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Daisy Barnes, Benhilda Tandi and Dorothy Geddes. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
If you are a relative of anyone on today's list, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Let's return to the hunt for living relatives of Brian Yanchuk, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
who died in Milton Keynes without leaving a will. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Peter Birchwood from Celtic Research has been investigating Brian's case. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Brian died back in 2004 and the team have established that he | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
never married, or had children. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
So they are now looking for aunts, uncles and cousins | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
who could be heirs to Brian's estate. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
As Brian's father's side of the family appear to have | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
settled in Canada, the team are concentrating their attention | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
on the mother's side, whose surname is Smith. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
We're looking for a birth of a Violet Smith, who was 18 years old in 1941. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:59 | |
Unfortunately, there are hundreds of thousands of people with the surname Smith in Britain | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
but the marriage certificate that Hector picked up from Wandsworth register office | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
provides two clues which will help them track down the right family. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
We know that the family is in the Battersea area, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
which is really within three separate registration districts. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:25 | |
That's Battersea, Wandsworth and Lambeth. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
So the team are able to narrow their search down to this area, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
just south of the Thames in London. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
The second clue is the name of Brian's maternal grandfather. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
We know from the marriage certificate that Violet's father is | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
Albert Smith and he works on the railways. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
We might well have several Violet Smiths | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
but we can buy each certificate just to make sure that one of them | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
has got a father's name which is correct. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
The team eventually managed to identify the correct | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
birth for Brian's mother, Violet Smith. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
They can now go on to find her brothers and sisters. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
We know what street they were living in in the Battersea area | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
so based on that street address, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
we know that we can look in the registry office, Battersea | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
Registry Office, for any other Smith births in that specific subdistrict. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:27 | |
There are a lot of them but it's manageable. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
The team's painstaking research pays off. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
They discover that Violet's parents, Albert and Nelly Smith, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
had one son, Albert, and five daughters, Violet herself, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Beatrice, Rose, Lilian and Ivy. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
So a family of six, all born within the same general area, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:55 | |
all born really within a couple of streets of the original address. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:01 | |
They stuck fairly close to home. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Peter quickly discovers that all of Violet's brothers and sisters have | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
passed away but four of them have had children, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
including Brian's Aunt Ivy. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
She married a Cecil in 1935 in Battersea | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and they had two children, a son and a daughter, Ann. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
They are both potential heirs to Brian Yanchuk's £12,000 estate. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
Peter needs to confirm that his research is correct | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
so he's arranged to go and visit Ann, who lives in Birmingham. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
Mrs Ann Smith is a cousin of the deceased, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
she is the oldest of the first cousins by maybe five or six | 0:38:47 | 0:38:54 | |
years and we found her by finding her mother's marriage... | 0:38:54 | 0:39:01 | |
and from the mother's marriage, just who the children were. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
Peter wants to meet Ann face-to-face to go through the family tree with her. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:14 | |
-Thank you. -Hello. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
This way he can be sure he has identified all of the correct family members. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
They've got the family tree here and you might tell me | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-if I've got anything wrong. Certainly I've got your grandad as Albert. -Yes. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
Marrying to Nelly Beatrice Lilian Potter. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
Yes, that's right, it is Nelly. It was Nelly Potter, yes. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
-And they married in 1908 in Wandsworth. -Mmm. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
-Wandsworth then covered Battersea. -Yes. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
It was only a little bit later that Battersea became its own registration district. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
Ann is able to provide some more information about the family's life in Battersea. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
-St Philip Street, Battersea. -Do you know that street? -Yes. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
That's where they all lived. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Ann's grandparents, Albert and Nelly, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
moved to St Philip Street during the Second World War, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
probably after their own house was bombed. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
When their children grew up and married, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
many of them stayed in the same street. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
At one point they even shared the same house. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
When we used to go down there, I remember these old tenements | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
and they was three storeys high | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
and there used to be families on every floor. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
And, in the first one I remember going to, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
was my gran and grandma on the bottom, Aunty Beatrice in the middle | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
and Violet Yanchuk on the top one with her husband and her child. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
During the Second World War, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
millions of British homes were destroyed or damaged by bombs. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
This, coupled with a post-war baby boom in the 1940s, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
led to an acute housing shortage. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
As a result, people often had no choice but to share | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
accommodation with several families living under the same roof. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
In many cases, houses had no bathrooms | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
and no central heating or hot water. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
In them days, they were poor, really. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
When they used to have chops they used to scrape the bone with | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
a knife to get every little bit off. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
When they used to have butter, they used to share it. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
They used to weigh it all out so that everybody | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
had their own bit of butter. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
I know they used to all live on the top of one another | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
but they all seemed to get on all right. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Having been through the family tree with Ann, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
Peter can now confirm that she is definitely an heir | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
and she shares her inheritance with six other heirs on the maternal side. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
I think that's about it. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
-I'm confident that we've got all of the Smith family together. -Yes. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
I would hope within a fairly short time, although I have to say | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
it might be a year, then you'll be receiving a little bit of good news. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
-Thank you for seeing me. -Thank you. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
For Ann this has been a trip down memory lane. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
After the Second World War, the Smith family began to lose touch | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
as Brian's parents and his Aunt Beattie moved out of London. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
They moved them out to Milton Keynes. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
That's how Vi and Beattie became Milton Keynes | 0:42:26 | 0:42:32 | |
because they moved a lot of Londoners out | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
because it was a new town in them days. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
It was a new town, Milton Keynes was. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
In 1946 the UK government passed the New Towns Act to tackle | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
the problem of congestion and poor-quality housing in the inner cities. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
Areas of land were designated for the construction of these new towns | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
with improved housing, schools, healthcare facilities and shops. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
The new towns were a world apart from the dirty, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
smog-ridden streets of inner London. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
People were enticed there with promises of low-rent council houses | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
with indoor bathrooms and hot running water | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
and access to extensive lakes, parkland and green areas. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
Brian's parents and his aunt signed up for this new life | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
and appear to have spent the rest of their days there. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
The disadvantage was that they lost touch with their family. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
I suppose with my mother moving away | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
and Lilian moving away from home and the two sisters going to | 0:43:29 | 0:43:35 | |
Milton Keynes, we didn't see much of each other after that. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
But for Ann, becoming an heir has allowed her to reconnect with | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
her long-lost family. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
I've got in contact with a cousin that I hadn't seen since he was | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
young and I've even spoken to his son, which I didn't know existed. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
You know, it's nice to get in touch with people. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
We've exchanged e-mail addresses so we can keep in touch that way as well. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:02 | |
It's been very good, I'm really overwhelmed with it, really. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
For Mike Smith, who originally contacted Peter to say he thought | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
he was related to a Brian Yanchuk, the gamble has paid off. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
Peter has proved that, like Ann, he is an heir to Brian's estate, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
on the maternal side of the family. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
Mike's father, Albert, was a brother of Brian's mother, Violet. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
Albert had two children, Mike and one other. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
They are Brian Yanchuk's first cousins. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
Mike wasn't expecting to inherit any money. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
I didn't think I would get anything. It was just anything. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
It's a bonus, really. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:42 | |
I was more interested in the facts of what had happened, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
than any inheritance. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
But the experience has stirred up memories for Mike of playing | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
with Alexander back in St Philip Street in the 1950s. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
You was working class in them days. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
You were happy with whatever you'd got. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
There was no jealousy of somebody else, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
because everyone was pretty much in the same boat. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
Peter has now signed up all the heirs to Brian Yanchuk's estate on the maternal side of the family, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:15 | |
seven in total, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
and research on the paternal side is continuing in Canada. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
For Peter it's a satisfying end to a fascinating case. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
We've got everything now that we need to put the claim in. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
That claim is going to go in immediately | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
so I hope we'll have it accepted within a few days | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
and then we can get the administration started, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
get the whole thing moving and make sure that there is no | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
delay in recovering the assets for the family. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
Here are some more unsolved cases where heirs still need to be found. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
The government list of over 2,000 unclaimed estates is | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
money that is owed to members of the public. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Cases get on our unclaimed list after a little while. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
The procedure is that initially the case will come in, we will make some | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
inquiries ourselves to see whether we can trace relatives or a will. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
If those initial inquiries don't bring forth anything, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
we will then advertise on our website initially | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
and then in the national and local press. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
Here are three more unclaimed estates from the list. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
Do these names mean anything to you? | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Are they relatives of yours? | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Elsie Sparrow died on 17 December 2000 in Newcastle upon Tyne. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
The surname Sparrow is particularly common in East Anglia and is uncommon in the North. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
Was Elsie from East Anglia? | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
Was she perhaps a member of your family? | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
Margaret Schmit died in Holloway in London back in March 1998. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
With German heritage, the name Schmit is historically linked to metalworkers. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
Were you a friend or neighbour of Margaret's back in the day? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
Could you help solve her case which has remained | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
unclaimed for over a decade? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Or did you know Gerald Ford? | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
He died on 2 January 2006 in Queen Alexandra Hospital in Portsmouth. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:25 | |
I've got Gerald's death certificate here which | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
shows his date and place of birth. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
It says he was born on 1 September 1927 in England. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
Was there a Gerald Ford in your family with that same date of birth? | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
The death certificate also shows that Gerald was a dockyard worker. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
Did you perhaps work with him on the docks in Portsmouth? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
Can you help solve this case? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
If you think you are related to any of the names today, you need | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
to prove your link to the deceased in order to claim their estate. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
If someone thinks they're entitled to an estate that we're dealing with, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
then they need to contact us. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
They can do that direct, or via an agent, it's entirely up to them. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
We need to have a simple family tree, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
showing how they think they are related to the deceased person. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
Nothing complicated, just something straightforward and simple | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
and then we will be able to make sure that we're | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
talking about the same family and then we will ask them | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
to provide certificates of birth, death, marriage | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
and also documents of identity to prove they are who they say they are | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
and then we can look at the claim. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
A reminder of those names again. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
Elsie Sparrow, Margaret Schmit and Gerald Ford. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
If today's names are relatives of yours, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
then you could have a forgotten fortune coming your way. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
Finally today, let's return to the search for living relatives of Alexander Gibson. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
Heir hunter Bob Smith was looking into Alexander's case. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
He died in Brighton back in 2004. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Alexander had never married and had no children | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
and initially he didn't appear to have any siblings. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
The team had been busy signing up cousins as heirs to his estate. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
But one of these cousins then dropped a bombshell | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
when she told Bob she thought Alexander had a half-blood sister. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
This revelation was obviously a bit of a shock. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
It meant all the research we had carried out up until now | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
had been a waste of time. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
The family members that we contacted would no longer be entitled. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
The half-sister in question was Ethel. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
She was brought up as the daughter of John and Mary Ann Clift, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
alongside her seven supposed brothers and sisters, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
but it now appeared that she was not their daughter at all | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
but their granddaughter and her mother was actually Winifred | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
who had been passed off as her sister. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
So it was back to the drawing board for Bob and the team, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
who now had to find a birth certificate for Ethel to prove | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
she was actually the daughter of the deceased's mother, Winifred. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
When we originally tried to identify her birth, we couldn't because, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
of course, we were using the surnames of both the grandparents. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
With this new information, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
we began looking for a birth of an Ethel Clift, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
daughter of Winifred Clift, between 1911 | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
and Winifred's subsequent marriage in 1920. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
This new search would make or break the case. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
If the team could find the correct birth for Ethel, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
they would be halfway to finding the right heirs. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
As hoped, their search turned up trumps. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
There was an Ethel Clift born on 18 March 1917 | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
and her birth certificate gave her mother as none other | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
than Winifred Daisy Clift. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
This birth certificate proved that Winifred had had another child. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
As there was no father showing on the birth certificate, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
it suggested that Ethel was actually an illegitimate child of Winifred. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
But there was something strange about this birth certificate. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
On the birth certificate of Ethel, Winifred's address was | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
shown as in Chatham in Kent. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
However, Ethel herself was born in Hanwell in London. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
Why did Winifred go all the way to London to have her baby? | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
Why did she not have her in Chatham in Kent? | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Pat Thane is a professor of history at King's College, London. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
She's carried out extensive research into unmarried mothers | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
and the attitudes they faced in early 20th-century Britain. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Winifred probably wasn't unusual in having her child away from home. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
This seems to have been quite common. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
Very often it was because they didn't want everyone to | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
see them heavily pregnant in their neighbourhood | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
because some people might be hostile and disapproving. | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
It was also sometimes hard for women to get medical attention in their own neighbourhoods. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
There were some midwives who wouldn't deliver | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
the children of unmarried mothers, for example, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
and some places where there were fewer midwives and doctors. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
It's possible that in the middle of the First World War | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
when her child, when Winifred's child was born, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:25 | |
that many doctors and nurses would have been off at war. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
What is certain is that once Winifred had had her child | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
she came back to live with her parents | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
and her daughter Ethel was brought up as her sister. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
It was very hard for a woman | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
to earn enough to support herself and a child. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
A lot of them seemed to have gone back to live with their own parents. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
The child might grow up thinking that Grandmother was their mother. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
In Ethel's case this family secret was passed down through | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
the generations as Alexander's cousin, Christine, can confirm. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
I knew Ethel as my Aunty Ethel, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
my mother's elder sister by one year. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
I only found out that Ethel wasn't my aunty when | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
I was with my mother one day and my mother said to me, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
"You know, Aunty Ethel isn't really my sister, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
"she was in fact Aunty Winnie's daughter." | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
To save the family name, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
my mother's parents had brought Ethel up as their own child | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
and then to make the story even more convincing they'd had my mother | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
so that it would look more natural. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
Now the team knew that Alexander had a half-blood sister, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
their next step was to see whether she was still alive. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
We were able to confirm that Ethel had passed away in 1991 in Portsmouth | 0:53:49 | 0:53:55 | |
but she had married and had two children. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
We now had the task of trying to track those two children | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
because they would be the entitled family members from our deceased's estate. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:05 | |
The team were finally on the right track. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
Alexander's half-sister, Ethel, had married | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
a Cyril in 1940 in Medway and they had had two sons, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
who would be Alexander's half-nephews | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
and his closest living relatives. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
The team managed to find these two sons, Andrew and David, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
living in Portsmouth. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
Finally, they had the right heirs. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
For Andrew, who knew Alexander as Alec, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
the news of his death came as a bit of a shock. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
My brother and I were both very sad that Alec had died. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
My mother died in 1988 and we lost touch with Alec | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
because, erm... | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
he sort of turned into a bit of a recluse, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
so he became rather unsociable and didn't want any visitors. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:56 | |
It sort of fizzled out after that. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
Andrew's mother, Ethel, knew that Winifred was her real mother | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
and that Alexander was her brother. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
That's at Aaron's wedding. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:07 | |
But Andrew and his brother, David, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
grew up thinking that their Uncle Alexander was their cousin | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
and their grandmother, Winifred, was their aunt. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
Well, we used to call Win "Aunt", | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
because, I suppose, they wanted to live the lie. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
My brother often used to wonder why all his other aunties used to send | 0:55:23 | 0:55:28 | |
him a shilling for his birthday and Aunty Win used to send him a pound! | 0:55:28 | 0:55:33 | |
But Andrew does have some happy memories of spending time | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
with Alexander as a boy. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Me and my mother used to go to visit Alec on the train | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
in Brighton in the late '70s | 0:55:44 | 0:55:45 | |
and that was quite a pleasant memory for me | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
because it was one of the first times | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
I went anywhere on a day trip, and then a little bit later, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
in the early '80s, I passed my driving test | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
and we used to go in the car. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
Andrew also reveals some fascinating information which deepens | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
the mystery of his mother, Ethel's, true parentage. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Our mother told us that Aunty Win, who was really her mother, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
had an affair with a Russian seaman during the First World War | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
and that led to our mother. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
Who was this mysterious Russian sailor? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
Was it a fly-by-night affair or something more serious? | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Andrew believes his grandmother, Winifred, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
may have paid tribute to her sailor in her children's names. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
When Fraser & Fraser told me | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
that Alec was actually called Alexander | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
perhaps this was taken from the Russian sailor's name | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
because my mother's middle name is also Alex. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
Andrew and his brother will now be the sole beneficiaries of Alexander's £70,000 estate. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:55 | |
As nephews of Alexander's they are closer relatives than | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
the cousins the heir hunters originally found. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
For one of these cousins, Christine, being told she was a beneficiary | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
and then she wasn't was something of a disappointment. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
I wasn't surprised that I wouldn't be inheriting. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
I was disappointed because everybody would like to inherit something. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
But, of course, I realised that David | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
and Andrew were a closer bloodline than I was. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
But for Andrew and David, any happiness they feel on | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
becoming beneficiaries is tinged with sadness. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
We would have liked to have gone to the funeral | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
and so on and so we were very sad about that. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:44 | |
For heir hunter Bob Smith, it's been a case of surprises, twists and turns. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:52 | |
We had no way of knowing that Winifred had had another child. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
We would normally look for children from a marriage | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
and there was no previous marriage and you wouldn't naturally assume | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
that someone would have had an illegitimate child. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
Despite all the twists and turns | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
and disappointments to the family members that we'd originally found, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
I'm very pleased that we have identified the correct family | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
members who will share from our deceased's estate. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
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