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Heir hunters specialise in tracking down people | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
who are in line to inherit money from relatives who have passed away. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Often the family members they find have no idea they're entitled. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
We didn't know anything about it. It was a shock as well. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Their work involves expert research. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Each one had numerous possible marriages, numerous possible deaths, numerous possible births. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:28 | |
And can often uncover fascinating family secrets. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
You even wonder if he could have been possibly a spy. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
But most of all, it's about giving news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
Coming up... The heir hunters attempt to unlock the secrets of one man's mysterious career. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
He was like a James Bond. He was like a millionaire's lifestyle. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
But nobody actually where... How he got that money. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
-Hello! -And one heir takes an emotional journey. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
They did everything to make her happy, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
and if she wasn't happy, she'd let you know. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
That's really nice to know, you know, that she was all right. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates held by the Treasury. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
It's Wednesday morning, and in the offices of heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
case manager Dave Slee and the team are working on a private tip-off. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
I have this... I like to think of as little Miss Marple lady that finds out about estates for us, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:40 | |
and a couple of days ago I received a call from this lady | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
to inform me that a resident had died by the name of William Wilcock. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:49 | |
William Maxwell Nasmyth Wilcock died on the 18th of December 2011 in West London. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:58 | |
He was 90 years old. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
His friend Ian Johnston knew him in his later years. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
He was the kind of old-style Englishman that you don't get any more. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
The kind of old-style gentleman. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Extremely tall, extremely pukka and extremely mannerly. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
And when you were saying goodbye to him, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
he would always go, "I wish you good day" in an extremely sort of pukka English accent. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
Ian got the impression that his friend came from a privileged background... | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
..and was always an enigmatic figure. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
It was a mystery exactly what job he did. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
He would suggest that the job he had | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
enabled him to have periods of time of study, which I think was paid for. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
He would talk about going to Lima, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
he would talk about going to Tubingen, I think they pronounce it in Germany. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
And also Heidelberg. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
And, of course, he'd been to Oxford and Cambridge. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Since William passed away, Ian has been left with one lingering question. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
What did he do for a living? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
There was always a degree of mystery, and he wouldn't really tell me, but he knew I wanted to know. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
And then one day he said he was... a negotiator. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
And I didn't quite know what he meant by that. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
But I gather he did travel and represented the Government and negotiated things. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
He claimed to have met Stalin. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Which, if he was working for the Government, meeting Government people, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
it's not far-fetched. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
You even wonder if he could have been possibly a spy, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
but who knows? As I say, he'll always be a bit of a mystery man. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
William's last known address was a sheltered accommodation flat in Fitzrovia, West London. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
Because he didn't own any property, the company don't know if the case will be high-value, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
but from the wild stories he'd been told of William's life, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Dave is already intrigued by this mysterious figure. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
He seems a real larger-than-life character. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
How much of it is truth and how much is fabrication, I don't know. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
He's supposed to have been an explorer and a doctor and all sorts of weird and wonderful things. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
Um...there may be an estate there. So it's certainly worth investigating. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
Since the case of William Maxwell Nasmyth Wilcock came in two days ago, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
the team have been making steady progress in the hunt for heirs. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
They've already got hold of his death certificate, and it's revealed some vital information. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
When the death cert came back, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
it was actually William Maxwell Nasmyth Wilcock, otherwise Maxwell, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
so he was actually born with the first name Maxwell. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
And the death cert has also revealed that the man they know as Maxwell was a widower. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
We've been able to establish that the deceased married late in life, and he married a portrait painter. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
And she was actually originally from...born in Toronto in Canada. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
A search of the records has revealed | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
that Maxwell married | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
Moira Audrey Featherston Haugh on the 7th of November 1982. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
At the time of the marriage, he was 61 and she was 73. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Due to their ages, they had no children, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and Moira sadly passed away in 1999. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Having ruled out children, the team have checked to see if Maxwell had any siblings. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
We've also been able to discover that the deceased was an only child, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
both his parents having been born in Preston. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Maxwell's mother, Gertrude Maudsley, married Charles Harold Wilcock in Preston | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
in 1919. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
As searches revealed Maxwell was an only child, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
the team are now looking for aunts and uncles | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
whose children, Maxwell's cousins, could be rightful heirs. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
On the father's family, the Wilcock family, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
our research leads us to believe that the deceased's father had four siblings. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Two of his siblings, unfortunately, died as young men killed on active service | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
during the First World War. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Maxwell's father, Charles, had two brothers and two sisters. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
As the brothers, Edwin and Frank, died before they had children, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
the focus has turned to Charles's sisters, Nellie and Elizabeth. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
They've learned that Elizabeth married a Robert Sumner | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
and had two sons, Frank and Charlie, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
who would be Maxwell's cousins and heirs to his estate. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Charlie passed away in 1990 | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
and research has shown that he had four children who would inherit his share of the estate. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
But Roger is still trying to track down Charlie's older brother, Frank, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
who would also be an heir, if he's still alive. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
I've just found his birth in December '13 in Preston | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
He appears to have died... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
May 1984 in Preston. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Sadly doesn't leave a will, so I've got no address there to go from. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Because Frank has passed away, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Roger needs to find out if he was married and had children who could be entitled. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
I'm just seeing now whether... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
there's a Frank Sumner married in Preston, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
but because it's an area name, I have a choice of about four possibles. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
Sumner is a common surname in Preston | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
and Roger is finding it hard to establish which of the possible marriages is the right one. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
Of the Franks I've got, one is a little young - he'll be 17, 18 - so it's not the most likely. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
But the other three are within ten years of each other. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Between 25 and 35, so they're all of marriageable age, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
so I haven't really got a favourite at the moment. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
The only way Roger can be sure which of the four Frank Sumners is the right one, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
is by ordering all four marriage certificates | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
to see which if any of them tallies up with the other information they have. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
The company work on a commission basis, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
but as this case is a private referral, the team are not competing against rival firms to solve it. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
So Roger can afford to order the certificates online and wait a few days for them to arrive by post. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
Until then, there's nothing more he can do. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Roger and the team are hanging on the certificates, but will they prove his research right or wrong? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
We hope one of them comes back correct. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
And his death should also come back today, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
which hopefully will confirm one of the marriages is correct. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
But until we see the certs, I'm not 100% sure. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
And as their investigation into the case continues, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
the mystery of Maxwell Wilcock deepens. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
It sounded, as a kid, he like he was a James Bond. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Every Thursday, a list is published of unclaimed estates | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
where, if no relative is found, the money goes to the Treasury. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
One list included the name Prudence Bone, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
and probate researcher Saul Marks was immediately drawn to it. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Based in Liverpool, Saul works for Celtic Research, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
which is run by father and son team Peter and Hector Birchwood | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
and has offices in Wales and London. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
This case particularly stood out because the deceased died in Chester. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
It's very much in our area in the northwest of England, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
which we cover here. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
And it also happens to be the city where I went to school | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and I really consider my home town. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Prudence May Bone died in Chester on the 28th of November 2011. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
She was 91 years old. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Prudence spent the last 17 years of her life at the Curzon residential care home, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
where staff like Andrea Stanton grew very fond of her. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Prue was an enjoyable, lovely lady. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
She had lots and lots of interests. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
The rapport she had with the staff... They all loved her, they all spoilt her. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Despite needing specialist care, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Prue lived life to the full. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
Prue had a learning disability, which meant that she had the mental age of a child, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
which we took to be around the age of eight to ten. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
She couldn't read, she couldn't write. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
But this wasn't anything that affected her or bothered her. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
She was totally fulfilled with the fact that she could do her knitting, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
she could do her colouring, and she could watch the television. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
And her bright, colourful personality made its mark on those around her. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
She's still missed today. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
And the girls will still call Room 16 "Prue's room". | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
The home never knew of any living family for Prue. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Finding them was a job for Saul. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
When we started the work on this case, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
quite early on in the morning, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
we had established from the list that the deceased's name was Prudence May Bone, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
and she died on the 28th of November 2011 in Chester. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
There was one other piece of information on the list which was vital to his research. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
In this case, it said, "Prudence May Bone - spinster", so we knew immediately there were no children, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
there was going to be no husband. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
So the first place we had to look was for siblings. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
In order to do that, he first needed to trace Prudence's birth records. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
Prudence M Bone is not a particularly common name, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
so I looked her up on the birth index, and there she was, listed in the first quarter of 1920. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
This index listing also revealed that Prudence was born in Chester | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
and that her mother's maiden name was Roberts. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Using this information, Saul could now look for a marriage record | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
and uncover her parents' full names - | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Florrie May Roberts and Ernest Sidney Bone. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
With this, Saul was able to establish that Prudence was an only child. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
That meant that he now needed to find cousins who might be entitled. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
As Roberts was an extremely common name, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
and could potentially involve a lot of work, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Saul hoped he might be able to find heirs on the Bone side more quickly. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
But initial research suggested otherwise. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
We used the censuses to track down the basis of the Bone family - 1891, 1901, 1911. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:19 | |
We established that the deceased's father was actually one of nine children, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
so there were quite a lot of Bones to look for. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
It was at this point that Saul decided that it would be better to divide and conquer. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
The paternal heirs were all down south. The family were very much based in and around Tunbridge Wells | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
and some of them had moved to Sussex. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
They weren't people I was going to be able to visit. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
However, the maternal side of the family, the Roberts family, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
were all based in Chester, certainly for a couple of generations, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
and it was much more sensible for me to work on the maternal side, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
so I contacted my colleague Peter and asked him to take on the rest of the work on the Bone side, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:05 | |
and I focused on Roberts. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
It seemed like a brilliant idea. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
But Saul soon realised that he might have drawn the short straw. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
It was great to get my teeth into a very local case on very much my own turf. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
The sad part about this was the name was Roberts, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
so I was back in the realm of cases where there are a million John Roberts and James Roberts | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
and which is the right one? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Saul didn't know it at the time, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
but Prudence's maternal grandfather was, in fact, a Joseph Roberts, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
born in Chester in 1872. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Whilst his name might be a common one, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
the role that he played in the industrialisation of the British Empire certainly wasn't. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
After the first ever passenger train from Stockton to Darlington in 1825, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Britain's railway network went on to develop at a remarkable pace. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
Joseph's home town of Chester was no exception. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
The railways expanded very quickly in and around Chester. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
It took less than one year | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
from the cutting of the first sod | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
to the opening of the railway station here | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
on the 1st of August 1848. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
And the coming of the railway brought with it fantastic employment opportunities | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
for people like Prue's grandfather. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
In addition to the people that worked looking after the locomotives, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
cleaning, firing and driving, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
then there were significant numbers of people | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
working in the goods shed and also on the railway platforms themselves. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
Joseph Roberts began his working life cleaning the trains | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and rose steadily up the ranks until he was able to drive them. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
Throughout the 19th and the 20th century, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
to be a locomotive driver was always the ultimate ambition | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
of many young boys and men. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
But his career didn't end there. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Joseph went on to become a mechanical engineer | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
and after five years gaining expertise in England, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
he then left to work in Nigeria, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
where a new dawn of industrialisation meant his skills were in great demand. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
As the British Empire expanded during the second half of the 19th century, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
there was an expansion also of infrastructure in the colonial countries. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
And I suppose, in many ways, it was quite natural for engineering firms to exploit the potential | 0:15:34 | 0:15:41 | |
in exporting railway tracks, locomotives, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
carriages and coaches to those new countries of the Empire. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
Sadly, whilst he was there, Joseph caught blackwater fever and passed away. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
But it wasn't long before his son Stanley followed in his father's footsteps | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
and began his own career in the railway industry. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
I suspect that the father was greatly admired by the son | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
for the things that he had achieved during his lifetime. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Back in the office, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
Saul seemed to be getting off to a flying start tracking down the Roberts side of the family. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
I looked on the census of 1911 | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
and there was a Florrie M Roberts living in Chester, of about the right age | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
and I thought, "Fantastic, great, no problem". | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
But as his search continued, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
he came to realise he might have made a wrong turn. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
All that work had been for nothing, and we were back to square one. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
Heir hunters trace thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
But not all cases can be cracked. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
There are thousands of estates on the Treasury's bona vacantia list | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
that have eluded the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
The bona vacantia unclaimed list is a list that we publish on our website | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
and it's a list of all the cases we've never managed to solve | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
since 1997. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
Today we are focusing on two cases yet to be solved by heir hunters. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Could you be about to inherit some money from a long-lost relative? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
First... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
There are fewer than 100 people in the UK with the surname Barovitch, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
which is likely to have originated from eastern Europe. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
Are you a Barovitch who may be related to Michael? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Next, can you shed any light on this case? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Did you know Florence? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
Perhaps you're a relation of hers. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Both Michael and Florence's estates remain unclaimed | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
and if no-one comes forward, their money will go to the Government. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
The monies that bona vacantia raises | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
go to the General Exchequer | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
and they just help with the general running of the country. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Do you have any clues that could help solve the cases | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
of Michael Barovitch or Florence Kisil? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
In Liverpool, heir hunter Saul Marks from Celtic Research | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
was working the case of Prudence Bone, and had made good progress. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
After establishing that she was unmarried, had no children | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and was an only child, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
the search was now on for Prudence's cousins. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Saul had established that Prudence's father, Ernest Sidney Bone, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
had eight brothers and sisters. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
As this was going to be a potentially huge family tree, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and this family all seemed to be based down in the south of England, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Saul decided to pass this side to his colleague, Peter Birchwood, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
and concentrate his search on the Roberts family that were much more local to him. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
Doing this, he hoped to be able to visit the heirs in person | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
and sign them up that way. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
But he had to find them first. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Prudence May Bone died on the 28th of November 2011 in Chester. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
She was 91 years old. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Prue, as she was known, had a severe learning disability | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
and the mental age of around ten years old. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
She spent the last years of her life in a residential care home, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
where staff such as Andrea Stanton remember her always smiling. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
I remember every Christmas with Prue, we always, always, um... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
wrap lots of presents up for her. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
And somebody would dress up as Father Christmas, and Prue absolutely adored that | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
and you'd see her face light up. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
She loved everything about Christmas. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
And, again, on her birthday, she'd have presents. No matter how little it was, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
she loved it and she would show it off to everybody. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
For the majority of her life, Prue was cared for entirely by her mother, Flo. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
But as Flo got older, she found it difficult to cope | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
and they moved into residential care together. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Prue arrived here in August 1993. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
When she first came, she came with her mum. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Um... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
I think it must have been because her mum wasn't feeling very well at the time, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
so she'd come for a little bit of a rest. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
From what I remember about when Flo and Prue arrived, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Flo obviously loved Prue to bits, and very, very protective of her. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
Prue absolutely adored her mum. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
They were inseparable. They were together all the time. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Prue's mother, Florrie May Roberts, was born in Chester in 1898. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:58 | |
Using the 1911 census, Saul had found a match that showed her having six siblings. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
If Florrie's brothers and sisters had children, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
they would be heirs to Prue's estate, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
still yet to be valued. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
But Roberts is a very common name | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
and tracing what happened to them was proving a tough task. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Each one had numerous possible marriages, numerous possible deaths, numerous possible births. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
I managed to find a few births, but it was very hard going. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
After a lot of work, Saul finally had a breakthrough | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
and managed to get hold of a potential heir. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
It seemed like a great result, until alarm bells started to ring. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
The information that she was giving me really didn't tie in with what I thought was the case. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
So much so that I felt I had to go back to the register office and do some more work on it. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
The Florrie M Roberts that Saul had traced via the census had a father called Edward, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
so he needed to see if that name matched up on Prue's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
To my utter disappointment and frustration, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
the marriage certificate showed that the bride's father was Joseph Roberts, deceased. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
So all that work had been for nothing | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
and we were back to square one. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
And it was now midday, and I was very worried | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
that the competition would have got on to the right family quite quickly. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
It was a devastating blow, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
but Saul was determined not to be defeated. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
I found a listing on the 1911 census | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
of a Florence Roberts, whose father was Joseph Roberts, an engineer. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
She was the only other Florence Roberts in the right area, of the right age. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
Her father's name matched up with the marriage certificate. This had to be the right woman. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
This Florence Roberts had five brothers and sisters. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Searches revealed that one of them, Joseph Stanley Roberts, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
had three children. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Using the Electoral Roll, Saul tracked one of them down. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
I found the right man - I was fairly certain it was the right man - | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
living in North Wales. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Unfortunately, he had no phone number listed, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
so I thought to myself, "Right, well, I've got to take a chance, hope it's the right gentleman, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
"and go out to North Wales and see him." | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
So I jumped in the car and off I went. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
It turned out to be a trip worth making. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
At last, after all the hard work, I'd have a beautiful drive up into the North Wales hills, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:32 | |
found an heir who was definitely an heir, who had not been contacted by any other companies | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
and was very happy to sign with us. And it was a great relief! | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
And it seemed Saul was on a roll. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
I went to see his brother and his wife, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
and they knew quite a bit about the family. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
They were able to confirm which aunts and uncles had not had children | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
and they put me in touch with another cousin, named Jean, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
and she was obviously a cousin of theirs and a cousin of Prue's, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
and she knew even more. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
For heir Jean Hill, her visit from Saul was an emotional experience. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
I was very sad at first to hear that Prudence had died | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
and we didn't know anything about it. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
And it was a shock as well. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
When Jean was ten years old, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
she'd known her cousin Prue well. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Prudence was quite tall | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
and very, very slim. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
She liked her hair long - | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
plaits with ribbons. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
She used to love ribbons. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
She used to come over to Chester for a holiday | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
and meet me outside school with her auntie | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and they'd take me back, and I used to spend the weekend with her. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
And Mum said it was company for her. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
And we just used to do little puzzles together. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
Despite being in regular contact as a child, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
as Jean grew older, the family seemed to drift apart. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
And when Prue's mother, Florrie, passed away, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Jean's own mother made an important decision. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
My mother said she couldn't go visit her, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
because it would be too upsetting... | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
and that Prue might get upset as well. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
So she decided that, you know, we'd just leave it at that. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
So I went along with her... | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
what my mother said. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Looking back on it now, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Jean wishes things had been different. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I do regret that I didn't find out how she was going on in the nursing home. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
I wish, you know... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
I'd made the effort, I suppose, to go and see her | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
or find out how she was going on. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
But whilst she can't change the past, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Jean is keen to find out more about Prudence and her life after they lost touch. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
All I'd like to know, really, is how she got on in the home - | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
if she was all right, and... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
..you know, she was happy there. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
That's the main thing. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
In the hope of learning more about her cousin's last years, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Jean has come today to meet and share memories with carer Andrea Stanton, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
at the residential home where Prue lived. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Prue's main activity and her main hobby, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
and what she loved more than anything in this world, was knitting. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-Knitting. -She loved being taken out and going to a wool shop and picking all the different wools. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
What she'd do then is she'd come back and she'd knit... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
eight to ten rows, maybe, and there'd be holes in there, but she'd knit it | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
and then she'd unpick it and start again! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Surprised, really, how much she took an interest in things, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
because when I knew her, she... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
-Never really showed an interest in things? -No. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
It was when she was at home with her mum. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
She loved...she loved things. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
She wouldn't sit there and do nothing, ever. Ever. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
She'd always be colouring, or watching something, or singing. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
She'd never just sit there. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Or knitting. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Even if she fell asleep, she'd fall asleep like that, with her... | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
-Did she? -In between her knitting. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
All the time. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
She was really, really happy here. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
The staff really did, they did everything | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
to make her happy. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
And if she wasn't happy, you'd know she wasn't happy. She'd let you know. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
-She'd always let you know. -It's really nice to know, you know, that she was all right. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
-She certainly was. -Especially after her mum dying, you know. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
-Yeah. -I wondered how she'd get on, really, with being with her all her life. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
It took some time, but she adjusted. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
And she was... | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
well loved by all the staff here, and she's missed by all the staff. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
After her visit, Jean feels she can rest easy with her cousin's memory. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
And Prudence's modest estate, still yet to be valued, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
will be divided amongst the heirs. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
All in all, there were 15 heirs to this estate | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
on the paternal and maternal sides combined. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
We actually only signed four heirs, but those four heirs | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
comprise 40% of the estate. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Despite the twists and turns of the case, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
heir hunter Saul is pleased with his work. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
It's very satisfying at the end to get a good result. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
In the offices of heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser in London, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
case manager Dave Slee and the team are busy trying to track down heirs | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
to the estate of William Maxwell Nasmyth Wilcock. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
After establishing he died a widower, had no children, and was an only child, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
their hunt has focused on tracing uncles, aunts and cousins. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
On Maxwell's father's side of the family, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Roger has been trying to track down Frank, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
the son of Maxwell's aunt, Elizabeth. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Several days ago, he ordered certificates | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
which would make or break his research on this stem. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
I'm expecting... | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
some marriages back for Frank Sumner. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Um... | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Sumner being a very, very area name. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
We're looking for marriages in Preston initially. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
And I put four or five in last week | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
that are possibles for him. Just hope one of them comes back correct. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
William Maxwell Nasmyth Wilcock | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
died on the 18th of December 2011 in London. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
For friends such as Michael Plomer, who knew him as Bill, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
he was a baffling figure. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
I find it very difficult to sum up Bill, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
because he was an enigmatic character. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
There are so many bits and pieces which appear to be very... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
They're very interesting, but I never had the complete picture of Bill, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
only bits of the jigsaw. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
The little he did give away about himself created a fascinating picture. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
He'd been out to the Far East to buy a lot of monkeys | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
for medical research in this country | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and fly them back, which I gather was not a very comfortable flight back. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:04 | |
And he had many an extraordinary story. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
I think, at one stage in the '50s or the '60s, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Bill worked for Bernard Docker | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
and I gather it was a matter of transporting large suitcases of money, or something like that. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
Whether that's one of Bill's exaggerations or not, I don't know. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
Bernard Docker was a millionaire businessman who, in the late 1950s, made headlines | 0:30:22 | 0:30:28 | |
in the national press for openly flaunting his wealth. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
I didn't think there was any percentage in Bill trying to impress me, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
so I just accepted what he said. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Friend Ian Johnston, however, found some of Maxwell's stories harder to believe. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
He would talk about meeting very well-known people. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
One person he talked about meeting was Aristotle Onassis. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
This was through his work. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
And I think he actually met him on his boat. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
And I thought... I'll try and catch him out here. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Because I didn't know much about Aristotle Onassis, but I knew he was five foot three. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
So I said, "Well, I'll see if I can catch him out here." | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I says, "Aristotle Onassis - was he a big guy?" | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
And it was, "No, no, very small man." And I thought, "I've not got one over on him!" | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
I think he'll always be a mystery character. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
He'll always be somebody we'll never quite know the truth about | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
but what we will know is that the stories he told | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
will have had a basis of truth in it. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
And quite considerable truth in it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
But what the ultimate truth is about him, about the total truth of his life, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
I don't think we'll ever really fully know. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
After an anxious wait, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Roger's certificates have finally arrived | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
and it looks like one of them might match the info he has on Maxwell's cousin, Frank Sumner. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:51 | |
He's right on age, right on father. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
And Charlie, his brother, is one of the witnesses. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
This is a brilliant breakthrough. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
And Roger is now one step closer to tracking down an heir. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
The next step now is to look for children of that marriage. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
Because he's now been confirmed dead, so, hopefully, the children will still be alive. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:13 | |
And a quick search of birth records reveals that Frank and his wife did have children. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
It looks like there's one son, which will be useful. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
All Roger has to do now is find a current address for him. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
It looks like he may have moved to Scotland. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
They've got a guy with the right initial and the right, er...quarter of birth | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
up in Scotland. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
This is great news. It looks like Roger's found an heir, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
so it's time to update case manager Dave. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Mr Slee. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
News, sir. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
Until they can speak to the heir, they can't confirm it's the right person, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
so Dave gets straight on the phone. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Good afternoon. Very sorry to trouble you. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
It looks like he might be in luck. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:07 | |
That's you, sir, is it? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:10 | |
We're trying to trace the next of kin of a gentleman who died in London | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
by the name of William or Maxwell Wilcock. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Dave explains that, as a cousin once removed, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
he's entitled to a share of Maxwell's estate. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
I've got to be perfectly honest. At this stage, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
we're completely unaware of the value of this gentleman's estate. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Lovely. I'll get the letter in the post to you today. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Bye-bye, now. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
It's been a successful call, and Dave and the team have now got some vital information to work from. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
And it's not long before the search for Maxwell's heirs can be wrapped up. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
There's at least five heirs entitled at this moment on the paternal family. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
And on the maternal family... | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
we have an exact figure of three heirs. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
But solving the puzzle of Maxwell's life | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
is proving more of a struggle. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
I've spoken so far to a paternal first cousin, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
who knew very little about her cousin, the deceased. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
And I've also spoken to a cousin once removed on the maternal family, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
who, unusually, even though he's a generation further down, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
knew the deceased a little better. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
But again, I also understand from my conversations with him that the deceased was a real mystery. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
And...this real Walter Mitty character | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
that kind of came in and out of their lives all the time. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
with these fabulous stories of travelling the world. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
How much of it's true and how much of it's bluff, I don't know. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Dave and the team have discovered that Maxwell's mother, Gertrude Maudsley, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
was one of four children. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Her brother William had three children of his own, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
two of whom are now heirs to the estate. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Because William's son Norman Eric Maudsley passed away in 2004, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
his son, Robin, is now also an heir. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
For Robin, growing up in working-class Preston, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Maxwell was a fascinating figure. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
My grandfather, when I was a kid, used to say about the stories of Max, where he'd been. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
He'd sent him a postcard or a letter. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
And he'd been to Tibet, he'd been to Russia, he'd been to America. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
And, you know, it sounded as a kid, he was like a James Bond. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:31 | |
He was like a millionaire's lifestyle. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
But nobody actually knew where... How he got that money. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Nobody knew how Max earned his money. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
Even after years passed, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
his cousin remained a darkly mysterious character. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
On one of the occasions when Max first came to our house in the '80s, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
my eldest son then and my second son, Philip, he was playing with Max's walking stick | 0:35:51 | 0:35:58 | |
and Max sort of said, "Get off that! Leave it alone!" | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
And they said, "Why?" He said, "It's dangerous, that" and he got hold of the handle | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
and moved it up a bit and you could see it was a knife. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
As to the truth about Max's job, there are many conflicting theories. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
He did tell me he was the chief constable of Hong Kong police, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
but how long or where he stayed, I don't know. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
The...rumours that went through the family from early background | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
is that...possibilities of him working for the Government. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Um...because of the amount of times that he went all over the world. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
Recently I've been told that he might have been a photographer. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
But Robin has always thought one thing more likely than the others. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
I believe the background of what Max possibly did was to work | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
somewhere within the Government services. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
To what extent, I don't know. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
It's something that, as a kid, I've always been itching to find out. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
Was Max Maudsley/Wilcock 007? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
Becoming an heir means that he might finally be able to separate fact from fiction. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
Our family have always thought, "Was he a Walter Mitty type of character?" | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Or...was there some truth in it? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
I'd like to hope there's some truth in it, and I'd like to hope, you know, the story comes out. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Dave might have located all the heirs to Maxwell's estate, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
but his work on the case is far from over. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
As Maxwell died in sheltered accommodation, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Dave's been in touch with the local council, regarding the contents of Maxwell's home | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
and has had an intriguing message back. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
As far as I'm aware from...from my... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
colleague's scrawl... | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
um...that the estate... | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
has assets of £60,000 in bank accounts. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
They found £13,000 in cash at the property. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
They took away a number of items - jewellery and gold. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
We're probably looking at an estate in excess of £70,000. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Fantastic news. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
His next task is to arrange access to the property. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Not only will this establish the true value of the estate, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
but both Dave and Robin want to get to the bottom of some of the mysteries of Maxwell's life. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:18 | |
Not least what his real job was | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
and where he got his money from. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
The deceased's estate is in a form of limbo at this moment. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
His house, his flat, hasn't been cleared. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
There could be documentation in the flat | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
which is crucial to our research and to the administration of the estate. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
It would also be really helpful for the next of kin, this documentation, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
because it might give some background as to whatever happened to the deceased | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
during he lifetime. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Finally, they might be able to discover some truth about Maxwell. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Was he actually a spy, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
a world traveller, or just a fantasist? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
A few days later, and partner Andrew Fraser is headed to Maxwell's home | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
to look for evidence of wealth and paperwork | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
which may help solve the mystery. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Today's task is to assess what we have and how we're going to deal with it. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
It's not long before he gets his first clue about what Maxwell did. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
This is a certificate from the Royal Geographical Society | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
to say he's been appointed as a fellow | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
in 1949. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
But as more pieces of the puzzle emerge... | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
We have here a number of fencing foils, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
walking sticks and parade batons. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
..the waters become even more muddied. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
This is a passport from 1965. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
One occupation has been crossed out, to become a "professional hunter". | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
I expect this is from his hunting days. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
It's been a worthwhile day | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
and Andrew has been able to delve deep into Maxwell's belongings. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
But the conundrum of his life is still far from solved. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
He certainly appears to have done something in his life. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
The question is...what? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
No-one knows, so I think, over the years, the truth has been bent, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
moved slightly... But he probably was a very interesting character. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Ever since Robert Maudsley heard the news that he was an heir to Maxwell's estate, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
he's been keen to know the truth about his enigmatic relative. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
I'd like to have a bit more closure, in as much as know something about what Max did. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
Um...try and find something of his life, you know, see what he did. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
Now that various documents have been found, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
he's headed down to London to meet Dave Slee | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
to see if between them they can make sense of any mysteries of Max's life. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
Here's a series of passports, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
which we found in Max's possessions. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
You go through these... He's literally been around the world. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
From the late '40s, he's in Europe - France and Germany. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
And then from the early '50s, he starts to branch out, from Belgrade to Greece | 0:41:05 | 0:41:11 | |
to Istanbul... Then on into Syria. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Six foot eight inches. I said he was nearly seven foot. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Six foot eight inches? Six foot six here. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
He's short there! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
He got taller when he was older! | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I think some of the stories got taller when he got older, as well. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
-I think he was a good story-teller. -I think he could spin a yarn, no doubt about that. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
But...this doesn't tell any lies, does it? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Well, the stories that I've been told as a kid, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
I can now honestly say that those stories ARE true. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
You've showed me the pictures. Whereas, when you're a kid, you think, "Is this a fairytale?" | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
-The passports don't lie. -No. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
The documentation that Dave has uncovered | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
shows clearly that Maxwell's tales of exotic trips to far-flung places were true. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
But there is very little that explains why, or how he funded his worldwide travels. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
It's amazing, really, when you think... We're talking here of the late '40s, early '50s... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
People weren't travelling Europe and studying like they do today. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
-Where did the money come from? -I don't know. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
-It's crazy! -He never seemed to be without money... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-and the door doesn't shut. -No, the mystery's still on, isn't it? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
For Robin, it's been a lot to take in. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Answering one set of questions has now made it more plausible | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
that...was Max a spy? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Who was paying for him? Who was paying for all the education | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
and all the different exams he was doing? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
And Dave has still got work to do. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Once the family have submitted their claim to the Treasury, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Maxwell's estate, now valued at between £50,000 and £70,000, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
will then be divided between all eight heirs. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
But the memory of such a fascinating case | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
will live on. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Max! Who was Max? You know, an incredible character. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
Um...you don't get many estates like that, that's for sure. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
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