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Heir Hunters make their living tracing people | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
who are entitled to money from relatives who have died | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
without leaving a will. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
Often, the rightful beneficiaries have no idea | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
they are in line to inherit. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
The amount of volumes means it's a needle in a haystack. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Their work involves detailed research. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
14 children - 11 living, three dead. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Basically, we've got quite a lot of work to do at the moment. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
And can often shed new light on family histories. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
You could take a tea chest. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
That was it. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
But most of all, it's about giving news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Could the Heir Hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Coming up - the remarkable story | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
of one of Britain's wartime meteorologists. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Largely, the weather later today, the weather for tomorrow, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
was being generated in his head. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
And one heir uncovers the missing pieces of her family tree. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
I was just totally amazed, I couldn't believe it. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
As far as I was concerned, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
my mum was the last surviving relative on her side. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Plus how you could be entitled to inherit money | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
sat in unclaimed estates. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
It's Friday afternoon at heir hunting company Fraser & Fraser, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and the entire research team are busy trying to track down | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
beneficiaries on a case involving a huge family tree. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
There's 14 children - 11 living, three dead. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
So basically I've got quite a lot of work to do at the moment. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
The team are responding to a tip-off that has just come in | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
about the case of Edith Konieczny who died without leaving a will. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
They are straight in at the deep end, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
especially as the team are up against a rather important deadline. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
We are under a lot more pressure than usual on this one | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
because we have to get it done by 3.30. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Usually, we just carry on until we're finished. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
We have to get it done because Grimble's retiring today | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
so I think there's a big drink, so we need to get it done. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
After 32 years on the job, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
it's veteran case manager Grimble's last day in the office, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
and later, the team are planning to give him a proper send-off. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
But for now, senior researcher Ewart Lindsay | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
is focused on the job at hand. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
We've got quite a lot of staff working on it. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
It's all hands on deck, to get it sorted. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Edith Konieczny died on 20 December, 2011, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
aged 87 at her home in Carterton, Oxfordshire. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Hairdressers Lesley and Trish looked forward | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
to her regular visit to the salon. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
I was really sad to find out that she'd passed away | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
and doubly sad that she's got no relatives. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
We did go to Edith's funeral and it was quite sad | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
because there was just a handful of people there. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
I think she did live through her husband and when her husband died, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I think she became very lonely and wasn't as outgoing as he was. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
The light went out a little bit then. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
After her husband Joseph passed away, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
her weekly trip to the hairdresser | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
was as much contact with the outside world as Edith had. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
She was quite a lonely lady | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
and I think we were her only port of call once a week, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
so we used to make a bit of a fuss of her and she'd have her tea | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
a certain way and want her hair shampooed and rinsed a certain way, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
which we tried to do. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Even into her old age, Edith was a glamorous woman. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
Mrs K was very stylish. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
She wasn't afraid to express her sense of fashion. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
She would wear very loud colours if she wanted to, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
usually with a matching hat. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Ranging from woolly hats to bandannas. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
You name it, she would wear it. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
She was a pioneer in the fashion stakes, put it that way. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
And she was ladylike in more than just her dress sense. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
To those who knew her, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
Edith's polite, courteous manner will not be forgotten. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
She always made a point of coming to the desk and saying, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
"Thank you, that was very nice. Goodbye, see you next week." | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
That's how I will remember Mrs K. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Back in the office, case manager Simon Mills and the team | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
are making progress finding heirs to Edith's estate. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
As she owned her own property, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
they think the case could be worth a lot of money. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
It's thought to be worth about 250, I think. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
They've got hold of her death certificate and from that, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
they've established that Edith died a widow. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
Searches also show that she had no children. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
I did Edith Konieczny. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
That one came up. It was birth there so I went for it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
The team must now look to the wider family tree | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
to see if Edith's parents had brothers or sisters. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
If any of these uncles or aunts of Edith had children, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
they would be heirs to Edith's estate. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
There's 11, I think, aunts and uncles on the maternal side | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
and four on the paternal. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
And although it's only just landed on his desk, case manager Simon | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
is worried that another rival firm | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
may have been given the same tip-off. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
It's a bit worrying at the moment because we don't know | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
if we're behind by a long way on the job or not. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
It doesn't sound like it after talking to the neighbours, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
but you don't know until you speak to an heir. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
If the heirs have already been contacted, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
all the team's hard work may be for nothing. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
I've got the whole office working on it and for all we know, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
we're weeks behind at the moment, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
so we need to find an heir as soon as possible. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
The office has been split into teams to try to work | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
both sides of the tree at once. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Just try to get someone up-to-date. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Already, Isha's made a breakthrough and thinks she may have found | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
a cousin on the maternal side of the family, but the team won't be able | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
to confirm this until they can speak to her on the phone. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
I've just found what I believe to be a first cousin of the deceased. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
Ewart's just going to ring them. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
It's an important call, as speaking to this potential heir | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
will hopefully also let them know if they're behind the competition. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
'Hello. Your call cannot be taken at the moment | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-'so please leave your message after the tone.' -She's not in. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
We'll need to get someone on the phone | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
just to find out if this has been worked before. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Having hit a brick wall with the maternal side, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
the focus is now on Edith's father's family. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Gareth is trying to track down the records of Edith's paternal aunts. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
I don't know if this is right, I can't quite work it out | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
but I think she's married Henry Single. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
And while the rest of the team might have found some potential heirs, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
they're struggling with current contact details. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Me and Simon are concentrating on the paternal side, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
and Simon's got a few up-to-date but they're not on the phone. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
We're still trying to find one on the phone at the moment. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Getting close but it's just the last couple of years | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
they seem to have moved away. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
Still trying. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Meanwhile, Isha has been working hard tracing children | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
of the 11 aunts and uncles on the maternal side. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
She's found details of another potential heir | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
the only other first cousin still living | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
on Edith's mother's side of the tree. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Ewart gives her a call. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
But once again, there's no answer. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
But Ewart's constant phone bashing isn't all in vain. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
The team have just discovered that the case may be worth | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
more than they thought, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
as apparently Edith owned not one property but two. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
Simon gives boss Neil a call to fill him in. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Ewart spoke to a neighbour. She owned a £250,000 house | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
and they had another property as well down in Dorset. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
We were the first people to call the neighbour. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
We can't get through to any heirs. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Suddenly, the pressure is really on. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
The team now know that the case is worth well in excess of £250,000. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
As they work for a percentage of the estate, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
that could make this a very lucrative job. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
With the 3.30 deadline looming, frustrations are beginning to show. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
You'd think I wouldn't have trouble | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
finding people with the surname Treblecock, would you? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Nobody is answering, nobody is answering. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Any more addresses, numbers? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
But Ewart's bad luck continues. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Also not in. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
At last, it seems Simon and Mike might have made | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
a breakthrough on the paternal side. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
How do you get Roger Webb? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Of all the names we've gone through, you get Webb. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
September. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
This one's got initials. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Pencil, I'll put it on in pencil. What's the address? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
It looks like they might have found a cousin once removed | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
but Ewart needs to speak to him to confirm. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Mike's not sure because he's got an initial he shouldn't have | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
but he's in the right area. Born in the right quarter. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
He's worth a go because we haven't got anything else. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Is this Ewart's chance to finally speak to an heir? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
It seems Roger Webb isn't answering | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
but Simon has managed to trace his brother. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Stuart Webb, yeah? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
Number? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Ewart's straight on the phone. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
He's calling a paternal cousin once removed. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
We just tried to speak to his brother | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
but he didn't answer the phone. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Hopefully, we think they're right because they married sisters | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
so even though they seem to have acquired initials | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
which they shouldn't really have, it looks good, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
but sounds like it's another that hasn't answered. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Finally, with the office about to close | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
for Grimble's retirement party, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
the team have to call it a day. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
We can't really do any more. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
We've got quite a few numbers, nobody is answering, nobody's in. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Or the numbers aren't correct. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Having made no headway in the office, first thing next week | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
they're going to try and make some progress on the ground. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
There's an address in Harpenden. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
I'm going to go straight there on Monday. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
If we actually get to speak to one heir, and they say, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
"We haven't been called up by any other company," | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
we'll know we're in. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
Let's just hope he hasn't been contacted already | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
or it will have been a waste of everyone's time, really. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
But for now, it's time to say goodbye to Grimble. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Since joining the company in 1980, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
he's become one of the most senior and respected figures | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
in the business and has worked on some of their highest-value cases. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
We have a few little gifts and something that, David, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
you ask me every month whether I've got it. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
-This time I have. -A P45? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Lovely, I'll drink to that! | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
It's there for you to keep. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Enjoy your happy retirement. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
After more than 30 years on the job, for Grimble, it's the end of an era. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:35 | |
I'm looking forward to my retirement. Thank you very much. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
But for the rest of the team, it will be business as usual on Monday | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
and that will mean trying to track down | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
the elusive heirs of Edith Konieczny. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
And when Ewart discovers the competition... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
It looks like they've actually written to people. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
I don't think they've actually gone to make any visits. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
..he still refuses to give up. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
I'm quietly confident I'll sign these two today. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Sometimes successful heir hunting is all about taking a gamble. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
In the case of Colin Wilkinson, the Heir Hunters had no choice | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
but to do exactly that. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
You're working two sides of a family | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
and putting resources into locating them which could all be for nothing. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Colin Charles Wilkinson passed away on 17th December, 2011, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
aged 83, in Noseley near Liverpool. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Neighbours Tony and Norma Hughes remember him | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
as a very smartly dressed man. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Little and bald. Very, very spotless. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Very spotless. And his shoes used to shine. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Always well groomed, always well-dressed. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
A very smartly dressed gentleman. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Always walked upright. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
He was one of them people, a very happy person walking along. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:10 | |
You'd say hello to him and he'd say hello back. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Colin's dapper appearance certainly made an impression. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
He was a character, I think. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
You could put him down right as a character. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
One remarkable thing about him which I can't forget | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
was he always wore different coloured shoes. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Never black or brown. Always green, red or blue. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
But he was a very private man | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
and remained a mystery to those around him. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
I always said to myself, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
he must have been in the theatre at some stage, or something like that. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
Although for 25 years, they regularly bumped into each other | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
at the station, neighbour Dorothy Crosland | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
never knew what he did for a living. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Every Saturday, we'd get the same train | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
and we just used to gab but he never said where he was going. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
Where he was going, Manchester, but apart from that, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
what he did, he never, ever mentioned. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
When case manager Ben Cornish started investigating the estate | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
of Colin Wilkinson, it looked like | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
it was going to be very straightforward. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Because it was a private referral, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
rather than one advertised by the Treasury solicitor as unclaimed, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Ben had a whole lot more information to go on. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
When I get cases through, we have just the date of death, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
an area of death and a name, but in this case, we had a name, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
date of birth, date of death and an address. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
He also had a good idea of the amount of money involved. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
What we usually go on, that indicates to us if there is value, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
was whether the deceased owned his property. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
We knew that it was a private tenancy | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
so there was no obvious signs of money there, initially. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Because Colin's estate was relatively low value, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Ben needed to find heirs quickly and easily. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Generally in my experience, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
cases like this are approximately around £15,000. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
If there's near kin involved, it's not too resource heavy. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Hoping that the heirs would be close family, Ben's first task | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
was to establish whether Colin had a wife or children who might be entitled. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Once we had the correct birth record, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
we knew that he was born in West Derby. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
We knew that he passed away in West Derby | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
so the next thing to do was to look for a marriage, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
but we couldn't find any marriage for the deceased which suggests | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
to us that he was never married and probably didn't have any children. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
The next step was to look for siblings. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
I initially made some enquiries with the neighbours. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
One said that there was a sister | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
and they didn't have any more details. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
The neighbour also had some worrying news. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
They said that a guy was looking for the deceased | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
in regards to the sister but I wasn't sure what that meant. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
It wasn't very clear, they didn't really know, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
so I took that as being | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
there was potential competition on this estate. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
It seemed that a rival firm had also received the same tip-off | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
and were working the same ground. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Ben now had to race against them to reach heirs first. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
Obviously, we needed to speed up the research | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
to try and find the next of kin. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
The search now focused on trying to find Colin's sister. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
In order to trace her, Ben first had to trace Colin's parents. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
His birth certificate showed that his parents were Ellen Mary McEvoy | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
and Charles William Wilkinson. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Charles was born in West Derby in 1888. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
When Charles married Ellen in Lancaster in July 1918, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
he was a soldier in the Canadian Army. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Historian Taff Gillingham has uncovered his military records. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
It's interesting that he comes from Liverpool | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
and it's interesting as well that he actually enlists | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
in the Canadian Army in Montreal. Both of those places are ports. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
It says, "What is your trade or calling," when he joined the Army. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
It says, "steward." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
That tells us that he was a steward on a cross-Atlantic ferry. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Charles was sailing back and forth across the Atlantic | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
and after the outbreak of war, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
he chose to enlist not in his own country but in Canada. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
I suspect that he was quite shrewd because the Canadians were paid | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
a dollar a day plus ten cents field allowance when they got to France, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
whereas the British soldier would only have got a shilling a day. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
During his time in the Canadian Expeditionary Force, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
Charles was involved in one of the most notorious conflicts | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
of the Second World War. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
They make a major contribution to the third Battle of Ypres, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
the Battle of Passchendaele. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
Two whole British army corps have been smashed trying to get there. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
The Anzac core of Australians and New Zealanders, they've been smashed | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
to pieces as well, and finally the last unit left is the Canadian Corps. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
After five months of trench warfare in horrific conditions, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
heavy rainfall had turned the battlefield into a swamp | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
and made the use of tanks impossible. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
By the time the Canadians are committed, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
the fighting at Passchendaele's been going on for months | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
and it's been a real slog. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
The conditions have been appallingly bad. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
It's been mud, it's been rain. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
By the time they actually get to the fighting towards the end, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
the conditions are not quite so bad | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
but it's still a very, very nasty place. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
It's uphill nearly all the way | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
and the Germans have got perfect observation over them | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
and it was not the best place to be at the end of 1917. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
But the Canadians weren't deterred by the terrain | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
and after a successful assault to capture Passchendaele Ridge, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
they brought an end to the long drawn battle. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Charles survived the war and shortly before he was discharged | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
from the Army, he married Colin's mother, Ellen Mary McEvoy. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
We know that we have a birth record of the deceased. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
We know the father's name was Wilkinson, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
the mother's name was McEvoy. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
We then have a look to see if there are any marriages | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
of Wilkinson to McEvoy and we did find one in the area. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
From that point, we will then search for any siblings | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
and there was one that popped up - an elder sister called Kathleen. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
This was great news. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
If Colin's sister Kathleen was still alive, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
she would be set to inherit his whole estate. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
All Ben had to do now was find out what had happened to her. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
First, we would look to see if she had maybe died in infancy. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
She hadn't. We also try to look for a spinster death, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
but we couldn't locate that either. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
His next challenge was to try to find a marriage certificate | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
for Kathleen, but he had a mountain to climb. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
In this particular case, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
there were far too many records to look at every one of them. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
Without knowing where to start, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
he seemed to be facing an impossible task. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
It's going to be difficult to find her if she married out of the area. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
The sheer amount of volumes means it's a needle in a haystack. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
Things were not turning out to be as simple as Ben had hoped. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
As he dug deeper into the mystery of Kathleen, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
he was forced to take a huge gamble. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
You're working two sides of a family, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
putting resources into actually locating them, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
which can all be for nothing. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Despite the efforts of the Heir Hunters, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
there are still thousands of unclaimed estates in the UK. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
In Scotland, these are dealt with | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
by the Queen and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer, or QLTR. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
In England and Wales, estates are handled | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
by the Treasury's Bona Vacantia division. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
The Bona Vacantia division has its own dedicated website | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
and I'd encourage anyone interested in this field of work | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
or feels they have a claim to go to that website first. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Today we're focusing on two cases that were both advertised | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
by the QLTR and are yet to be solved by the Heir Hunters. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they are looking for? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Could you be about to inherit some money from a long-lost relative? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
First is the case of Susan Robertson. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Susan died in Scotland in 2005. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Could you be related to her? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
She was born on 7 January 1913 and when she died aged 92, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
she was living on Constitution Street in Edinburgh. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Were you a neighbour? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Perhaps you are an heir who is entitled to a share of her estate | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
which is worth over £11,000. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Next, can you shed any light on the case of Patrick Brady? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
He died in Prestwick, Scotland on 12th December 2005. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
Patrick was born in 1922 and he lived at Limonds Court in Ayrshire. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Did you know Patrick? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Both Susan and Patrick's estates remain unclaimed | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
and if no-one comes forward, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
their money will go to the Scottish Government. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Do you have any clues that could help solve the cases | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
of Susan Robertson or Patrick Brady? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
If so, you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
The team at Fraser & Fraser are having a frustrating time | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
tracking down the heirs to the estate of Edith Konieczny. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Nobody is answering, nobody is answering. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Having established that she had no close kin, the team have been | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
trying to trace Edith's cousins on a huge family tree. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
We have got 11 children, potential aunts and uncles on one side. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:12 | |
And after one day's work cut short | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
because of Grimble's retirement party, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
it's now Monday morning and they're back on the case. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
To date, senior researcher Ewart Lindsay is taking no chances | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
and is hitting the road to try to speak to the heirs in person. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Unfortunately, his worst fears have been realised | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
and he's discovered that a rival firm are already on the case. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
It looks like they've actually written to people. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
I don't think they've gone to make any visits. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
All he can do now is hope that he's not too late | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and that a face-to-face visit will persuade Edith Konieczny's heirs | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
to sign with him. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
Edith Konieczny was 87 years old when she passed away | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
at her home in Carterton, Oxfordshire. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Hairdressers Trish and Lesley grew fond of her over the years | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
and remember her weekly visit to the salon well. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
We used to have to towel dry her hair a certain way | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and always give it a good rinse. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
We always referred to her as Mrs K, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
primarily because we couldn't pronounce her surname, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
but she always responded to Mrs K and that's how we always remember her. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:26 | |
By all accounts, Edith was a completely devoted wife. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
She did talk about her husband quite a lot | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
and obviously she was a Forces wife years ago. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
I think she must have done a little bit of travelling around. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Her relationship with her husband was really important. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
She was very, very close to him. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
She didn't have any other family because she never talked about | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
any other member of her family, only her husband who she idolised. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
Edith married Joseph Konieczny, the love of her life, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
in Cirencester in 1954, aged 30. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
It transpires that he played an important and fascinating role | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
in the Second World War. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
After leaving Poland in 1940, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Joseph worked as a meteorologist forecasting weather for the RAF. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
Weather forecasting was vital to the war effort. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
Is still vital to the war effort. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
We have meteorologists in Afghanistan today. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
War is carried out in the open air | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
and therefore weather is very important, particularly for aviation | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
because you're flying up amongst the clouds | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
and if the temperature's below zero centigrade - | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
32 Fahrenheit during the War - | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
then the aircraft gets covered in ice. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
If you want to go from A to B, the wind may be blowing you off-track. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
You need to know about the wind at the level you're going to fly. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
These were the sorts of things that you needed | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
for flying to the targets, there and back, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
and you needed to know what the weather was going to be for landing. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Whilst today, advanced technology means that predicting the weather | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
is a very precise science, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
for Joseph, it was a very different matter. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Today we run global models of the atmosphere on our computers. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
We did not have anything like that during the Second World War. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
Joseph Konieczny would have had forecasts coming | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
from the central forecast office, forecast charts, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
but largely, the weather later today, the weather for tomorrow | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
was being generated in his head. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
The forecasting of changes in weather patterns by meteorologists | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
like Joseph made history. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
This chart behind me is the chart for midday on 6 June, 1944, D-Day. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
The forecasting for that event would have been pretty critical. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
It resulted in D-Day being postponed by a day. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
After weeks of fine weather, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
the conditions on the eve of the planned attack were impossible | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
with wind and high seas preventing a naval attack | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
and low clouds also affecting targeting from the air. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
With all the troops poised and ready to go, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
it looked like the whole operation was in jeopardy | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
until chief British meteorologist James Stagg stepped in. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Using the detailed forecasts of weathermen such as Joseph, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
he predicted a respite in the weather | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
if Eisenhower could just delay by a day. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
It was a window of opportunity, that was the phrase that was used, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
and that's exactly how it worked out on the 6th of June. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Despite a long happy marriage, Edith and Joseph had no children | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
meaning there are no immediate heirs to her estate. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
But the Heir Hunters have discovered she came from a very large family. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
Edith's father Charles Hewer was one of five. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
His sister, also called Edith, married Henry Rigsby Webb, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
and had one child, Maurice. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
As Maurice passed away 10 years ago, his two sons, Stuart and Roger, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Edith's cousins once removed, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
are now entitled to a share of her estate. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Senior researcher Ewart Lindsay has managed to arrange a meeting | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
with them. He calls case manager Simon to give him the good news. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
Roger Webb, I'm seeing him and his brother at 11 o'clock. All right. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:21 | |
Roger received a letter and thought it was a scam | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
and threw it away last week. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
But he's willing to see me. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Although they have decided to ignore a letter from a rival firm, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
Roger and his brother Stuart have agreed to see Ewart. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Quietly confident I'll sign these two today. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
But although he's feeling positive, unless Stuart and Roger | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
are happy to sign with the company, it will have been a wasted journey. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
After all their hard work on Friday, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
are they about to sign their first heir? | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
-Hello, Mr Webb. -Come on in. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
At their home, Ewart takes Roger and Stuart | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
through what he knows about the case so far. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
-Charles Joseph Hewer married... Do you know who he married? -No. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:18 | |
He married Nelly Curtis. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
And they had the deceased. Edith. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
Edith would be a first cousin to your father, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
so this is where the estate is coming from. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-Then it's time to go through the tree. -Let's start from the top. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
Let's get your details and then we can work ourselves down. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
The brothers then decide they are happy to sign with the company. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
There's your copy, have a read of it. That's your copy, Mr Webb. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
-All the best, bye-bye. -Cheers then, bye. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
It's a great result. After all their hard work, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
they finally signed their first heirs, and for Roger and Stuart, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
news of an unexpected windfall has made their day. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
It's a bit of a surprise, we'll wait and see what comes out. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
We don't usually have that sort of luck so would be nice | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
if we get something. More the merrier. Larger the sum, the better. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:20 | |
In the case of Edith Konieczny, we started a day later than some | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
of the competition but we were able to send Ewart | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
and other researchers out to see people face-to-face and that really | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
helped us to catch up and often when you see people face-to-face | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
that puts them at ease | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
and we managed to get a good result out of it in the end. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Eventually, the company managed to sign 13 heirs who are all entitled | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
to a share of Edith's estate, now estimated at over £250,000. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
Colin Charles Wilkinson passed away on 17 November 2011, aged 83. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:02 | |
Neighbours Norma and Ted Hughes remember him as a private | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
but very polite man. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
He was a lovely person. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
He used to say hello and that was it. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
I couldn't see him having any visitors or anything like that. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
I think he just kept to himself. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
As Colin grew older and fell into ill health, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
his reserved nature meant that he found it hard to reach out | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
to friends such as Dorothy Crosland. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
We found him to be a lovely chap. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
I'm only sorry I couldn't help him in some way | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
because his house just went to rack and ruin. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
The curtains looked as though they hadn't been washed for years. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
All the growth was past the windows | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
and plants and shrubs were going right over the driveway. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
Ben's research had reached a dead end. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
If he wanted to continue with the case, Ben had no choice | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
but to take a huge risk and expand the search. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
He needed to look further up the tree to trace aunts and uncles | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
and then down to cousins to see if he could find out | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
more about what happened to Kathleen. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
If it did turn out that she had passed away and had no children, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
any cousins he found could be heirs. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
When you're tracing two family trees at the same time, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
you've got the cost of researchers doing the work. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
You have no idea of the value of the estate. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
You don't know if there is going to be a near-kin factor in the end. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
It could be the fact she moved to the States and had three children | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
who were still alive. It was a bit of a risk for us to do this | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
but I thought eventually we would come to the bottom | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
of where Kathleen actually was. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Colin's father Charles William Wilkinson was one of three children | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
and tracing cousins on that side was relatively simple. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
When it came to Colin's mother however, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
her family presented a bigger challenge. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
When we are tracing the McEvoy family, two stems stayed in the UK. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
One stem, they married here but it seems that they had | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
a lot of children and they were quite hard to trace. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
We found out one of the stems went to Australia. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
Colin's mother Ellen Mary McEvoy had five brothers. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
Two of them died with no issue but the other three all had children | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
of their own, cousins who Ben now needed to trace. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
One of Louis McEvoy's ten children, Philip McEvoy, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
was proving particularly tricky to find. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
In the early 1950s, Philip McEvoy made a momentous decision. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
Disillusioned with life and austere post-war Britain, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
where rationing, housing shortages and economic depression | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
made life tough for his young family, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
he chose to emigrate to Australia | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
and become what was known as a Ten Pound Pom. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
The Ten Pound Pom agreement was initiated between Britain | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
and Australia in 1947. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Essentially, the two governments heavily subsidised the sea passage | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
of migrants over to Australia and the migrants themselves | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
only had to pay £10 and children could come for free. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
The scheme ran alongside an extensive advertising campaign. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
It was quite an active campaign for its time. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
It was quite something. A lot of money was put into it | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
and I suppose the three main themes of the campaign | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
were sun, sea and sand, which would obviously appeal to British people | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
in austere Britain following the Second World War. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
Over one and a half million Brits jumped at the chance to make | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
a better life for their family. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
There was a sense that it was a better place to raise children | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
because of the climate, because of the lifestyle, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
and also the lack of food rationing, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
which for families is quite a practical issue. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
When Philip and his wife Margaret bought their £10 ticket | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
to a new life, they had four children all under the age of seven. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
It seems they set sail across the globe | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
in search of a brighter future for themselves. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
By tracing Colin's cousins in the UK and all over the globe, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Ben was hoping that he could find someone to tell him | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
more about Colin's sister Kathleen, but he had no such luck. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
We discovered quite quickly that there were no first cousins left | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
on either side of the family, so we went down to cousins once removed | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
but they had no information about Kathleen or the deceased. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
He had reached a stalemate. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
The distant cousins he had found would have been heirs | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
to Colin's estate if Kathleen had passed away | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
but until he could prove that she had, all his hard work was in vain. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
Suddenly, in a conversation with one of Colin's neighbours, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Ben had a huge breakthrough. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
She confirmed the story of this gentleman coming to visit her | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
regarding the sister. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
This gentleman was visiting or attempting to visit the deceased. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
To tell him that the sister had passed away | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
and that she had left him a property. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
We'd been working on the fact this case was a minimal amount of money | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
but this one phone call changed everything. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
Not only did we find out that the deceased's sister had passed away, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
the estate was a lot more valuable than we initially thought it was. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
The risk had paid off. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
The 32 distant cousins that Ben had contacted were now beneficiaries | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
to an estate that was now valued at £150,000, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
ten times what he had believed it was originally worth. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Beauty therapist Michelle Davies is one of the heirs to Colin's estate. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
I had to give them a few details and they asked me | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
about other family members. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
They explained about Colin to which I was just totally amazed. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
News about her surprise windfall was a shock on more than one level. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
Up until Heir Hunters contacted me, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
I didn't have a clue that Colin had existed or his sister. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
As far as I was concerned, my mum was the last surviving relative | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
on her side and that was it. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
Michelle does know a little about her immediate family history. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
It was during the war when my mum was born | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
so she always had stories about the war and things like that. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
Coming home to a tank that crashed into the front of the house one day | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
and things. Make do and mend, living off rations and all things like that. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
And she's tried to find out more. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
I've done a bit of research into my family history | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
on several websites and things like that. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
I think as an amateur you hit a point where you don't know | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
how to go any further without having somebody to help you. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
The call from Ben Cornish turned out to be just the helping hand | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Michelle was after. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
She is now keen to explore more about her extended family. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
My mother passed away in 2007 and my dad last year | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
so the family were starting to shrink. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
I didn't think there was anybody else on my mother's side | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
so to hear about Colin, I was really excited there was going to be | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
other family members out there I can get to know. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Hopefully fill in some blanks. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
But it's the discovery of her ancestors' emigration to Australia | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
that has been one of the biggest revelations. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
Until she was contacted by the company, Michelle had no idea that | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
her distant cousin Philip McEvoy was one of the famous Ten Pound Poms. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
She's keen to try and understand what it would have been like for him | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
and his young family arriving in Australia to start a new life. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
And today, she's come to meet Mark Peel, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
an expert in Australian history | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
whose own parents settled down under as Ten Pound Poms. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
We need to recognise the courage it took to undertake this migration | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
and people had to get through some pretty hard times. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
OK, wages were higher, there was all the sunshine and lots of space, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
but there were ups and downs for people. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Women especially often felt isolated and of course | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
there were quite strong restrictions in the 1940s on what you could take. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
My mother for instance, you could take a tea chest, and that was it. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
A life packed into a tea chest. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Would they have to find their own housing or was that provided | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
-on the £10 scheme? -It wasn't provided, there were no guarantees. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
This is a picture of me as a child in our front garden, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
the house we rented in Elizabeth. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Most of the housing was council housing | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
but to English people, it was palatial. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
I can see how it was appealing to your families | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
coming from the terraced housing and overcrowding into these big gardens. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Whilst many Britons might have been lucky with housing, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
finding employment was a different matter. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Would most of them have jobs arranged for when they got there | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
or was it a case of no employment | 0:41:14 | 0:41:15 | |
and then having to find it when you got there? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
-How long would it take them to find a job? -It varied. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
My mother couldn't get permanent work for a couple of years | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
as a teacher so she sold ice creams on the beach one summer. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
-She worked in various... -It must have got very disheartening at times. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
I think people could get very disheartened, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
really question what they'd done. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
There was some real unhappiness in those first few years for people. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
I'd never thought of that side of it. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I always thought they arrived there and there's a house for you, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
you'll get on really nice, but there's this other side to it. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
The picture that Australia painted of itself was a very optimistic one. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
It was one that was deliberately designed to appeal to what | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
they thought British people wanted, which was a place of sunshine, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
a place of space. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Work, opportunity for your children, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
and all that was true but it took a while. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Despite the difficulties of settling in, some of Michelle's family | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
did stay and make a life for themselves in Australia. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
Two generations later, Michelle still has relatives all the way | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
across the globe and she can't wait to get in touch with them. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
I definitely want to find out more about my family tree now. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
I'm full of enthusiasm again. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
I want to go home and get on the laptop, see what's out there. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
Especially the family that's in Australia, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
I want to know more about them. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
For case manager Ben Cornish, it's also been a rewarding experience. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
I think that the strategy did pay off in the end | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
because we've got the case. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
We've managed to find all the heirs | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and sometimes it's good to run two things concurrently. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
Sometimes it can work against you but in this case, it worked. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
Colin's £150,000 estate will now be divided between all 32 heirs. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
If you would like advice about building a family tree | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
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