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Every year, around half a million people die in the UK. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
And thousands leave no will and no known relatives. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I mean, he was a very private person, so... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
he didn't sort of talk to us about his, um, his past. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
If no family members come forward, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
their money will go to the government. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
And that's where the heir hunters come in. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
They're experts in tracking down beneficiaries | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
who have no clue they're entitled to a share of an estate. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Getting a call about you having an inheritance is very strange. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
That's why I stopped in my tracks. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
They have to beat rival firms who will be hot on their heels, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
while working on estates that can be valued at thousands of pounds. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
It's worth between 750,000 up to potentially £1,000,000. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
And they can also open doors to the past and reunite families. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
-This is my wife, Iris. -Hi. -New sister-in-law. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Above all, it's about giving people news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Coming up, the heir hunters can't afford to put a foot wrong, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
as they race to find heirs to a valuable estate. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
The last thing we want is for one of our competition to go sign it up. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
We'd lose half or a third of the estate. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
And a complicated case has got the team doing double time. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
We had to do two searches to make sure that nothing was missed. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
held by the treasury. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Could thousands of pounds be coming your way? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Tuesday morning, and the team at Fraser and Fraser | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
are busy picking up on a case which they received last night. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
This is a case called Cyril Archibald Henry Fraser. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Um, died in a nursing home. It looks a very nice, private nursing home. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
So we think maybe there's some money there. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
And the case is appealing to company boss, Neil, too. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
We start liking cases is when we've got multiple middle names. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
So, we've got a forename of Cyril, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
but then we've got an Archibald and a Henry as two middle names, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
which always makes us take a second look. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Cyril died aged 82 in a nursing home in Hampshire, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
just days before his 83rd birthday. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Deputy matron, Barbara Hembling, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
was one of the people who looked after him while he was there. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Cyril Fraser came to us for palliative, end of life care. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
He was a lovely, lovely man. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
He was very, very easy to nurse and to care for. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
He didn't seem bothered by the fact that he didn't have family. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
He seemed very, very content to have friends, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
and they did visit regularly. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Didn't seem to have any unfinished business, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
and that usually means that when people do enter the end stages, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
they go gently and peacefully, which he did. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
His neighbour of over 20 years, Jean Ball, remembers him well. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
He was a very nice gentlemanly type of man. Um, yes, very, very pleasant. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:26 | |
He had these friends that he used to talk with in the town an awful lot. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
They were boys that went to the local school, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
and had lived here all their lives. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Cyril had been a work-study engineer, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
tasked with improving productivity | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
at a local factory by making sure that workers | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
were as efficient as possible. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Cyril was married to Patricia for 34 years. But, sadly she died in 2009. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
I think when he lost his wife, he was very, very lost. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
He used to just wander off, and just walk around the town, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
and what have you. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
See who he could see. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
William Stubbings had known Cyril for over 50 years, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
and he remembers how much Cyril enjoyed being with friends. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Eight or nine of them always used to get together and talk, you know, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
and people would say, "There's that gang again over there." | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
But, nearly all of them what used to get there now are passed away. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
He was always happy. Always busy in his garden. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
Anybody come along, you know, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
he'd chat with them over the gate and that. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
I've never heard no bad words against him. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
If you ask him to do anything he would do it for you. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
The case came in yesterday evening, and was picked up by boss Neil. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
It was advertised by the treasury about 5:30. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
Unfortunately, after this office is closed. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Which meant it landed on my desk, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
which is why it's my writing on the family tree because | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
I wrote it last night. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
And he's relishing the opportunity to roll up his sleeves | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
and get stacking. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
I quite like the chance of doing a little bit of research. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
I don't get to do it that often. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Um... | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
I also like new cases, when new cases come it's the most exciting time. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
So, from that point of view it's good to get working. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
And Neil's research has given the firm's longest-serving manager, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
David Pacifico, a head start. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Looks like married, no children, only child... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
The team have already established that Cyril had been born | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
to Archie Charles Fraser and Edith Nellie Bills in 1930. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
He had married Patricia O'Neil in 1975, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
but she died in September 2009, and the couple had no children. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
So, the heir hunters need to widen their search | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
to aunts, uncles, and cousins. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
And, the team has already narrowed down the search. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
They've discovered that Cyril's mother was an only child. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
We found a death for the grandmother, and she's left a probate, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
and hopefully if there were any other children that will be mentioned. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
I'm pretty certain of the results of our research | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
we won't be looking for anyone on the maternal side, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
because there won't be any family. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Family's died off. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
With no heirs on the maternal side, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
any beneficiaries to Cyril's estate will be on the paternal side. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
If that side dies out, his money will go to the government. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
The team establishes that there were four children | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
on Cyril's father's side. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
One of the stems looks like Ethel. Looks like she might have died of... | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
without leaving any children. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Um, the other stem is the deceased father, Archibald. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
And, then we had the stem of William Fraser. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Cyril's dad, Archie, was born in 1898, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
five years after the marriage of his parents, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
George Fraser and Sarah Poore. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
His parents had two other children, William and Ethel, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
after they married, and the team have already established | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
that Ethel died without having children. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
But, the team has discovered another sibling, Elizabeth, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
who was born eight years before they married. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
Unless the team can prove George was Elizabeth's father, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
she and her descendents would be half blood. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Paternal side, we think we've got three stems. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
One of those stems is a possible half blood. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
So, the birth is a long way before the marriage. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
That being the case, that stem would not be entitled | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
if we can find full blood. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
This stem is causing the team some concern. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
If they research Elizabeth's descendents, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
it could be a waste of time and resources. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Nonetheless, Neil has decided it's worth taking a punt. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
We're working a half blood, because, uh, she's... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
the grandmother was living with the grandfather before they are married. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
Um, there's a possibility of a middle name of the... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
..aunt of the deceased having...with an F. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
That F could be for Fraser, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
even though she's born and registered under Poore. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
Uh, and to cover our backs really, we're going to get it, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
work it and make contacts, and see where we go. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
The last thing we want is for one of our competitions | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
to go and sign it up. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
And then, try to fight that stem through, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
and we lose half or a third of the estate. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
And early signs of this stem could be large. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
The child that was born before the marriage, Elizabeth Poore, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
she married a Harold Ricketts and has had five or six children. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
The team won't yet know | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
if these children will be entitled to a share of Cyril's estate. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
They turn their attention to one other stem on the paternal side, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
that of Archie's brother, William. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
William Fraser was the deceased's uncle. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
We know that he got married to a Lily Smith. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
We know he had three children, one of whom was Ronald. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Case manager David Pacifico has established | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
William and Lily had four children, who were Cyril's cousins. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
But one died as a baby, leaving the team three stems to work up... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
Leslie, Ronald, and William. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
It doesn't take long for David to make a potential breakthrough. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
And he decides it's time to put a travelling researcher to work. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
Travelling researchers are an important part | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
of the heir hunting team. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
Especially, when rival firms are right behind them, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
and time is of the essence. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
As soon as the office has located a potential heir, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
it's up to them to go and confirm the research, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
and sign up the beneficiary | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
for an agreed percentage of their inheritance. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Today, it's Bob Barrett who's out on the road, and poised for action. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
Ronald's brother, Leslie, um, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
they found a possible marriage for him in Windsor... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
..married to Margaret Thom, T-H-O-M. We don't know if this is right. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Two children, wonder if it's worth... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
see if you can get through to see | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
if Leslie is the one who was born in 1919 in Christchurch. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
Bob potentially is trying to make contact with a cousin once removed. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I think primarily he's going to the address where we know | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
the full-blood heir lives. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
But, as the search for heirs continues, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
could David's confidence be misplaced. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
I was told the death matched up with the birth, it doesn't. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
That death is wrong. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
When heir hunters take on a case, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
they never know where their research will take them. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
While some cases can be very straightforward, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
others can leave them with a mountain to climb. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
And that was the case when the team began working | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
the case of Peter Lancaster. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
His unclaimed estate was advertised by the treasury's solicitors Bona Vacantia Division. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
And, case manager Mike Powell sprang into action. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
The case came out and we got it when it was first released. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
So, we had to work quickly | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
cos we knew other people would get it at the same time. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Especially all the competition was looking | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
at the same cases at the same time. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
So, we had to make sure that the people were | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
organised and did their research as quickly as we could. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
With a property valued | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
at an estimated quarter of a million pounds, this was a valuable case, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
and Mike knew that rival firms would be hot on their heels. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Peter Lancaster died in January 2013, age 79, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
in Hayes, West London. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
He had been a bank manager. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Although there are no surviving photographs of Peter, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
his neighbour Nicky remembers him very clearly. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
I'd say Peter was quite a tall man. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Very slim build, quite athletic looking, um, because he always | 0:12:19 | 0:12:26 | |
rode his bike, and he always wore his racing clothes to do that as well. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Right up until a couple of weeks before he passed away. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
He was still riding his bike. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Nicky had known Peter for about eight years, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
since moving to the same street. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
I wasn't a close neighbour to him. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
It was basically just a, "Hello, how are you?" in passing. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
Kept himself to himself. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I never saw any sort of relatives or friends go round. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
Yeah, just a very nice, kind, quiet man. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
It seems that Peter's house had been the family home. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
I know Peter's parents had lived here since the sort of...late 1930s, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:09 | |
so, they had been long term residents in the area, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
but unfortunately his parents were both passed when I came to live here. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
So, he's always lived on his own. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Mike and the team were quickly able to confirm | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
that Peter had owned the family home. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
We worked out that Peter inherited the property | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
because he was living there with his mother before she died. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Once we obtained his father's death certificate, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
he gave the same address as Peter was living at. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
So, we safely assume that they had been living there | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
for a very long time. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Therefore, it was Peter's house now that they both passed away. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
With no will or known close relatives, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
it was up to the heir hunters to find out more about Peter, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and to track down his family before the competition. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Their research got off to a flying start. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
We were able to quickly establish that he didn't marry | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
and didn't have any children. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
Peter was born on 14 January 1934, in Hammersmith, London, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
to Herbert Hascell Lancaster and Elsie Hilda Matthews. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
With no children of his own, the next step was to find out | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
whether Peter had any brothers or sisters. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Because Peter was born 10 years after the marriage, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
we thought that there may have been some older siblings of his. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
So, we had to check that as soon as we could. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
They were able to confirm that Peter was in fact an only child, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
which meant going back two generations. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
The first thing we needed to do was locate | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
the grandparents of the deceased on both sides. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
So we can then look at census records | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
and determine how many brothers or sisters each parent had. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
And then, try to find descendents from them. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Peter's grandfather on his father's side was Roland Hascell Lancaster, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
and he worked as a carman, which was an ancient trade. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
They were part of an elite group of rival tradesman who were | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
granted licenses to work in the business district, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
known as the City of London during the 1800 and early 1900s. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
Carman were the equivalent of Hackney carriage drivers today, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
in so far as they could be flagged down, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
and they would move anything that needed moving. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Known as the Worshipful Company of Carmen, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Henry VIII gave them their first royal charter in 1517. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Apparently, this was so that he could have all of his personal | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
chattels moved free of charge. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
The royal charter made the carmen | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
one of a number of livery companies | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
operating in the city. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
These companies controlled the provision of services | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
and selling of goods and food in the City of London. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
A livery company is a trade association that has a royal charter. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
There are 77 ancient liveries which date back pre-1517. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:11 | |
And there are now 108 liveries in total with some very modern ones, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
such as IT and solicitors. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
With the boom time of the railways up to the first World War, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
and the growth of the suburbs, there was | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
more demand for goods to be moved outside the city. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
So, the carmen faced fierce competition, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
as other unlicensed carts and vehicles begin to encroach | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
on their territory. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
These rivals were able to deliver goods beyond the city | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
quicker and cheaper. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
And, the killer blow came just before the Second World War. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
In 1933, the licensing laws were introduced, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
whereby every vehicle on our roads, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
whether it be a car or commercial vehicle, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
had to be licensed. And, they paid a road fund tax. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
And, that really then negated the need for carmen. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:12 | |
And carmen then were in serious decline. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
However, in their heyday, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
there are all manner of carts delivering a wide variety of goods. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Each saw the other as a rival, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
and all were jostling for position in that limited city square mile. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
But, we still have at least one lasting legacy | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
from those ancient tradesmen. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
If a carman and a woodmonger came face to face | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
in a narrow street, and couldn't pass, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
invariably it ended up with fisty cuffs. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
So, to overcome this, the Corporation introduced one-way streets. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:52 | |
So, suddenly, you couldn't come face-to-face with the competition. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
The team established that Roland married Annie Merritt | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
on the 2nd of August, 1884, and they had nine children together. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
They're going to have their work cut out on this one. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Nine is quite a big family. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Especially as they were all born relatively early, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
I think the marriage is in 1884, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
so, we've got at least four or maybe five generations | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
that are going to come down just so that we can get some people | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
who may be entitled to the deceased and haven't passed away. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
This discovery was going to mean a lot more work for the team, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
and with the added pressure of rival firms snapping at their heels, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
they needed to keep their focus. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Whenever there is competition, it's important | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
to contact the people first and find them. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
So, especially with a job of this size | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
we had to make sure we were working hard just to make sure | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
we got all the work done before the other companies. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
With an estate worth an estimated £250,000, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
would Mike and the team manage to crack the case | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
and beat their rivals? | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
You can only hope it is the right family. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
You trust in the research of everyone, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
and you only confirm it once you speak to them. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
Heir hunters trace thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
But, not all cases can be cracked. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
There are over 10,000 estates of the treasuries Bona Vacantia list | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
that have alluded the heir hunters and remained unsolved. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
There are actually two Bona Vacantia unclaimed estates list. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
There is one list which is our current list of advertised estates. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
That's updated daily. There is also an historic unclaimed list. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
That's cases that have been dealt with by the treasury solicitor, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
but we are still looking for kin to come forward and claim. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Today, we're concentrating on | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
two cases that are yet to be solved by the heir hunters. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
First is the case of Paul Shane Stewart, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
who died on 14th of January, 2007, aged 60 in Plymouth, Devon. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:02 | |
Paul was also known as Vincent George Grubb, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
and had been born on the 12th of May, 1946, in Galashiels, Scotland. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
All that's known is that Paul was a bachelor. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Could you be a relative of Paul's, entitled to a share of his estate? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Or, do you know anything which could shed some light on his family? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Next, do you have any clues that could help unlock | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
the case of Esther Madden? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
She was a widow and died on 18th of January, 2007, aged 89, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
in Westminster, London. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
Esther was born on 4th of April, 1917, in the Irish Republic. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
She was also known as Bridget Esther Madden. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
Did you know Esther? Or, do you have any information about her family? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Both Paul and Esther's estates remain unclaimed, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and if no-one comes forward their money will go to the government. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
The public can get in touch with us in writing either by e-mail | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
or by post, or on the phone, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and that's how we will get in touch with them as well. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Do you have any clues that could help solve | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
the cases of Paul Stewart or Esther Madden? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
Perhaps you could be their next of kin. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
The heir hunters were up against it in the search | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
for heirs to the estimated £250,000 estate of Peter Lancaster. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
The team had established that Peter was an only child, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
and had lived in the family home. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
He never married or had any children. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
After a straightforward start, the case was then blown wide open | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
with the discovery that Peter's father was one of nine children. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
Born to Roland Hascell Lancaster and Anne Merritt. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
With the paternal side of the family already looking large, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
it was clear the team were going to have their work cut out. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
And, with other firms also chasing this valuable estate, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
the pressure was on. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
The first thing we had to do was obviously work out | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
if they were married and they had children, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
so we can follow on their descendents. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
Peter died in January 2013, aged 79, in Hayes, Greater London. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:22 | |
Although there's no surviving photograph of Peter, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
his neighbour, Nicky, remembers him well. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Peter was quite an averagey-tall man, very sort of thin, greying hair. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
He was quite bald on the top. He was a very self sufficient man. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
He wasn't the type of neighbour that you needed | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
to do the shopping for or look after, he was always so active. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
With such a valuable estate and rival firms also on the case, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
the team were under pressure to solve it as quickly as possible. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
But, they hit an early snag. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
The eldest child was a Henry Walter Hascell Lancaster | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
who was born in 1895 in the Fulham registration district. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Henry was the one who gave us | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
the most problems purely because he changed his name and got married | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
as Hascell, rather than Lancaster, which is a name | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
that seems to be in at least part of everyone's name on his | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
family tree from the top line, which made it slightly more difficult. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
This complication meant extra work for the team. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
When we located the Hascell name was popping up in most of the births. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Obviously, we had to do two searches to make sure | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
that nothing was missed. Especially, cos some of the children were born | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
with the maiden name as Hascell, rather than Lancaster, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
which obviously we had to make sure everything was done properly. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
The team's research uncovered | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
an interesting insight into Peter's uncle. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
On the 1911 census, Henry Lancaster was known as Walter Hascell, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
and his occupation at the time, he was working at a barber's. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
Modern day barbers are continuing a noble tradition | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
that goes back centuries. | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
And, barbershops have often played a valuable role in a community. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
In the earlier 20th century, barbershops | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
were a hub and a meeting point for gentlemen. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
You know, they used to take a lot more pride in their appearance. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
So, going to the barbershop was actually a regular occurrence, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
not only to look sharp, but also to be shaven. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Um, back in that era, razors weren't as good as they are today. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
So, barbers used to have the monopoly on clean shaves. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Henry's training would have been very precise. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Barbers would've had an apprenticeship. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
They would have served under a senior barber, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and very similar to as we do today. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
For wet shaving they would've had a balloon | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
and they would have lathered it up with the soap, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and they would've had a razor, they'd be shaving the balloon. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
And every time they popped it, they weren't ready to shave a client. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
But there was a time when a barber would have been offering clients | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
a lot more than just a shave and a haircut. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Originally, barbers were barber-surgeons. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
They used to perform surgical acts. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
This was in the early 1300s that it started, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and went right through until the late 1800s. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
As well as leaching and teeth extractions, another popular | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
procedure of the date was an early and rather gruesome form of detox. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
Barber-surgeons use to practise blood-letting. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Blood-letting entailed the patient | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
holding hold of a rod, very tightly, so that the vein would pop out, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
their veins would pop. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
They could show, there'd be an incision with the razor, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
and blood would drain down into a brass bowl. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:49 | |
Until the patient in the chair passed out. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Unsurprisingly, most people realised that they felt worse | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
after a blood-letting, | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
and the procedure finally died out by the end of the 19th century. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
However, it was blood-letting that inspired the iconic barbershop pole. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
An internationally recognised symbol that still survives. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
Red is for the blood, the white is for the bandages. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
The original barbers pole was the pole which they used to grab | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
when they used to blood-let, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
and the brass ball on the end was a symbol for the leeches, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
or, where the blood would run into from the blood-letting. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
They would hang the bandages outside, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
which then would be wrapped around in the wind, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and that's the reason why we get the spiral as it is today. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Barbers could earn a decent living for the time, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and Henry ran his own shop in a busy part of town, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
as he supported an ever-growing family. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
In total, he and his wife, Roma, had six children. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
And for the heir hunters, tracing those six children | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and their descendents was a vital part of cracking the case. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
But with rival company snapping at their heels, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Mike and the team couldn't afford to focus on one branch at a time. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
We worked both families at the same time. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
We have different teams of people looking at both sides. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
And we quickly established that both parents had eight siblings each. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
So, that's 16 stems in total | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
which is quite a lot of work for us to undertake. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
With such huge family trees on both sides, there was no time to waste. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
And with everyone on the case, the teams efforts were soon rewarded | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
by a breakthrough on Peter's father's side of the family. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Faith Hascell Lancaster was an auntie of the deceased | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
who was born in 1896 in Fulham. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
It looked like she married | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
a gentleman called Frank Williams in 1921. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
The team established that Faith and Frank had one child, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Frank Edward Williams, who would have been Peter's cousin. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
This was potentially very exciting news for the team | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
as this could be their first heir. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
However, they needed to be sure and there was only one way to find out. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Before you phone the heir, you can only hope that it's the right family. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
You trust in the research of everyone. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
You'll only confirm it once you speak to them. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Would Mike get the confirmation he was looking for? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
When I spoke to Frank, I was very pleased that we got the right family. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
And we were the first persons to contact him. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
It was great news for the team. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
When you get to an heir and are the first one to speak to him | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and inform him of the situation, it's always a bit of a relief | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
and also it pays off for the work that we've done. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Peter's cousin Frank, also known as Ted, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
hadn't seen Peter for more than 50 years. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
But still has vivid memories of the time they spent | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
together in their youth in the '60s. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
We used to go cycling together. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
And I remember he had a very bright, red bicycle | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
and off we used to go. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
But as the poor man suffered from agoraphobia, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
we used to get about two miles | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
and then he'd say, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
"I can't travel any further. I've got to cycle home now." | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
But it seems that Peter's agoraphobia fed his imagination | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
and desire to travel. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
He had a yacht and it was tied up somewhere, I never went on it. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
I said, "What have you got in the chart room?" | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Cos I didn't think he had a chart room. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
He said, "Oh, I've got a map of London and I got a London Underground." | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
I said, "Well, that's not much use on a yacht, is it?" | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
"Oh, yes, it is," he said, "Cos suppose there's an earthquake | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
"and all the tubes are flooded with water | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
"I could sail from station to station | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
"and then the announcer can say, 'Stand back from the platform edge. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:52 | |
"'Yacht approaching. Get the jolly jack tyres off first'." | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
And he liked a little, sort of, quiet joke like that. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Bringing back those early stories | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
also highlights a sense of regret for Ted. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It was very foolish of me to lose contact, really. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
When all these cycling expeditions, we had about eight of them, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
I suppose, didn't seem to get anywhere, we sort of drifted apart. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
And I don't think I ever saw him again. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Although they didn't see each other, Peter had kept in touch | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
with his early cycling companion. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
He sent me a Christmas card but regrettably, I threw away. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
And on it he said, rather quirky it was, he said, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
"I've still got my boat. And I've still got my bike." | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
And that's all it said. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
And Ted has mixed feelings about his legacy. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
As I'm a close relation and I will inherit some money, obviously, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
it's nice. But I would rather the poor man to be alive and happy. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
He should have spent it himself. And I don't think he ever married. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
And it's a pity. Surely, there was some lady out there somewhere | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
that would have understood that he suffered from agoraphobia | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
because he had a nice personality and he was a kind man. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Ted was able to give the team a wealth of information | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
to help fill in some of the gaps in the family tree. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
He also agreed that the company would help him | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
submit his claim to the treasury. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
And that he would pay them an agreed percentage of his inheritance. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Ted was the first of many heirs | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
and over the next few days the team were able to pin them down. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
On this case, there's over 60 heirs | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
which we've managed to sign over half of. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
So, considering the amount of competition we had | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
from more than one company, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
we are relatively pleased that we managed to get | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
over half of the estate. It's a pretty good result for us. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And for Peter's cousin Ted, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
the knowledge of his inheritance has sparked some heartfelt reflection. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
Looking back, I feel rather sad that I didn't go | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and visit Ted, even if we didn't go anywhere or we just went locally. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
Yes, I do feel sad that I didn't keep in touch. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
But it's, erm, rather too late now. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
In London, the Heir Hunters are busy trying to find heirs to the | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
estate of Cyril Fraser, which they believe is valuable | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
as it's known he had a property. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
They're working only the paternal side of the tree | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
having established that the maternal side of the family has died out. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Cyril's mum, Edith, was an only child born in 1897 to Ellen Rose | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
and Robert Henry Bills, who worked as a French polisher | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
who worked in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
A trade which had been introduced into this country in around 1820. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
French polishing is the application of shellac to the surface of wood. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
And shellac is a natural substance. It comes from the lac beetle. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
And it's, in principle, very simple, it's applying a coating of shellac | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
using methyl denatured alcohol to the surface of the work. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
The meth evaporates and dries | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
and you're left with a coating of shellac. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
A good, hard, bright coating. And it's very attractive. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
It may sound easy, but traditionally, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
a French polisher would take up to five years to learn his trade. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
And building up just the perfect finish | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
needs patience as well as skill. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
I suppose, if I was polishing a table or something like that, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
I'd allow a couple of weeks | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
to finish the work and do other things in between. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
So, I keep coming back to it and do a little bit more. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Do a little bit more. Build the finish. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
It's slow. It's not...it doesn't have the advantages of a modern finishes | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
where the finish can be built quickly and cheaply. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
And it can also be sprayed. French polish is a hand-finish. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
It's a slow finish, but it's the best finish. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
For Cyril's grandfather, Robert, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
it would have been a good trade to be in. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
If you knew how to French polish, you'd be doing very well | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
and people sought you out. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
He'd certainly be respected for it. It's a respectable job. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
In the office, the team is working two paternal stems. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
One of which is Cyril's Aunt Elizabeth. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
I've got a Dorothy L. from your end | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
Probably married a Hall. James F. Hall. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
There's quite a few of King. King-Ricketts or Hall-Ricketts. What do we fancy? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
The team had found she married a Harold Ricketts | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
and had three children. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
They've since died, but between them they had six children. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
This stem here, although we're going to have five, 10, 11 others, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:11 | |
I don't think they'll be entitled. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Despite working up Elizabeth's stem, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
the team is not sure her grandchildren will be entitled | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
to a share of Cyril's estate. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
She was born illegitimately and at this stage, they have no proof | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
she was a full-blood sister which could mean, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
all the time spent researching her family has been for nothing. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
But the team have decided to take a gamble | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
and work up the family anyway. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
And they have travelling researcher, Bob, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
poised to go and visit potential heirs. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
It's a risky strategy as anyone they find, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
may not be entitled to a share of the estate after all. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
We'd rather be honest with the beneficiaries early on, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
sign them up and then tell them | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
that they're coming on a half-blood stem | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
and that it's possible they're not going to be entitled. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
That way we're not giving them any illusions that they may be entitled | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
to fortunes when it's a small estate and they're half blood. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:11 | |
But secondly, we're not going to be caught out | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
if someone else signs them up and we've missed it. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
The team are also busy working up the stem of Cyril's Uncle William. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
He married a Lily Smith and the couple had four children. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
One of whom died as a minor and another without having children. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
They are also trying to establish what happened to Leslie | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
and Ronald, Cyril's first cousins. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
The team have found a marriage for Leslie and a possible son | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
and given Bob the details. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
But suddenly that research is thrown into doubt. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
-There's his dad. We think he died in 1928. -OK. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:59 | |
Have you found a Leslie F? Not C. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
But there's no birth of a Leslie F. that might be... | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Where in, Christchurch? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
In Bournemouth, wasn't it? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
-Derek? -Yeah. -Bournemouth. I think...I think he's died off. -OK. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Yeah, I saw that last night and I wasn't sure, though. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Time to update Bob with the new findings. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
Hi, Bob, just checking in. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
We think his Uncle Leslie may have died age 9. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
So, there may be just, well, there's a question mark | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
about the second initial, but I think he died off young. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
With every other stem of the Fraser family leading to a dead end, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
the team's only chance of finding a full-blood heir | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
to the Cyril's estate is through his cousin Ronald. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
We've still got Ronald F. Fraser outstanding. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
We got a possibility he could have died elsewhere. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
The possibility that he could have gotten married out of the area completely. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
But we don't know. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
But trying to find him is not easy. As researchers Joe and David | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
try to tie in birth and marriage certificates. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
That's the only Ron F. Fraser birth | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
and these are the three marriages for Ron F. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
You still think that matches up, though? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
And it's a frustrating search as David has spotted | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
what he thinks could be a fundamental mistake. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
I was told the death matched up with the birth. It doesn't. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
That death is wrong. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
Now, that marriage you could say it could well be correct. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
When you look at that death, it doesn't time with the birth | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
and that's plain Ronald. He was born as Ronald F. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
That death is no good. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
The birth date on the death index of the Ronald Fraser they were tracking | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
doesn't match up with the birth date of the Ronald Fraser they found. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
It's a blow for the team. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
And David gets straight onto the local register office. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
It's a vital he gets details from death certificates | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
if he's to finish this last stem. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
Yes, I'm speaking from London regarding a death that we're | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
trying urgently to obtain. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
We need...we really need it this afternoon. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Or at least the informants. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
Thank you very much, indeed. Thank you. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
You definitely haven't got it, yeah? It's not at Bournemouth. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
Bournemouth haven't got that death. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Finally, though, their persistence pays off. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
They find a will for a Ronald Fraser. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
David gets straight on the phone | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
to see if he can find out if it's their man. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
I believe you were the executor of the late Ronald Fraser | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
who died in 2008. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
Basically, were trying to find out whether Ronald Fraser may have | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
had any close family, for example, children. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
He died Christmas Day, 2008. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
It's the breakthrough they've been hoping for. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
We think Ronald Fraser may have had at least one son called Roy. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
We've now found an address for Roy. Hopefully, this is right. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
This son would be a full-blood heir. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
And would be entitled ahead of any half blood relatives. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
But until they've spoken to him, the team can't be certain | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
he is definitely the heir they have been looking for. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
The following morning the team pick up their research | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
and discovered Ronald actually had two sons. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Both of whom would be full-blood heirs. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Bob Barrett has spoken to the wife of one of them | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
who's away till the end of the week. We're now writing to the two heirs. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
We've now found the real beneficiaries, that's the main thing. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
The team are now confident that Ronald's sons | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
are the only heirs to Cyril's valuable estate. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
And the research they did into the half blood stem of the family has been put to one side. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
Go on, smile a bit more there. Good. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Roy is one of those beneficiaries. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
A professional photographer. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
He is the elder of Ronald's two sons who are both Cyril's heirs. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
He's Cyril's cousin once removed. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
I never met Cyril myself. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
I only heard about Cyril from a story my mother told me | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
about a meeting that was called in Ringwood at Cyril's house | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
where the whole family, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
my grandfather and uncles and the rest of it, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
went up in all their Sunday best for a meeting. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
They arrived and were given a schooner of sherry. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
And they sat down and had a chat for a very few seconds it seemed, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
according to my mother, before the sherry was taken off them | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
and they were told, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
"That's it. Thanks for coming," and off they went. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
It was the only time, I think, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Cyril has been mentioned to me in my lifetime. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Roy was caught unawares by the news of his inheritance. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
I was actually in Jersey at the time. I was shooting landscapes. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
I was on a beach in the middle of nowhere. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
And this guy called up and I was listening to him | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
and I didn't realise the tide was coming in | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
as I was so taken aback by the whole thing. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
I phoned my brother. So, later that day we met in a pub in Jersey | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
and talked it over as just like, "What a shame we never met him." | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
Hearing that he's an heir has raised a number of questions for Roy. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Getting a call about you having an inheritance, it is very strange. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:18 | |
That's why I was stopped in my tracks. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
Just thinking how did you find out about me. I mean, Cyril, who's he? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
You know, and all the rest of it. All these sort of questions. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
Then you start thinking about how come we didn't know about Cyril. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
So, yes, it's all a bit of a surprise hearing something like that. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
It's now a few weeks later. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
And although both Roy and his brother have signed up with the company, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
there is a vital piece of information still outstanding for case manager David. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
We don't have value of the estate | 0:42:44 | 0:42:45 | |
but we know that it's got an interest in a property. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
So, there is definitely value on this estate. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
And for heir Roy, the whole process has brought unexpected | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
emotions to the surface. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
In a way, it's very sad because, obviously, he's a Fraser. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
It would have been quite nice to have met up with him. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
And, you know, yeah, it does seem a shame now that the only time | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
we know about it is when he's...he's gone. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 |