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The world's greatest orchestras, at the world's greatest classical music festival. The BBC Proms. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:36 | |
For the first time this year on BBC Four, we're devoting | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
every Thursday evening to the orchestras visiting | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
the Royal Albert Hall from abroad, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
to enjoy their individual interpretations | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
and their unique musical approaches. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Every year, the BBC Proms showcases the very best orchestras | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
and soloists from around the world, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
and over the eight weeks we'll be hearing eight of Europe's orchestras, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
all of which were formed during the 20th century. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
Tonight, to start our mini-season within a season, an orchestra | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
with a rich, fascinating history, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
the Bamberg Symphony Orchestra, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
whose home is a picture postcard city in Bavaria in southern Germany. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
It will be performing one of the most popular, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
one of the most romantic symphonies - | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Gustav Mahler's Fifth. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
The Bamberg Symphony Orchestra | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
was formed in 1946 in the aftermath of the Second World War. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Musicians from the German Philharmonic Orchestra of Prague, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
together with other German musicians who'd been forced to flee their homes, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
settled in the medieval city of Bamberg, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
which had survived the war unscathed. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
It was the first German orchestra to tour after the war, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
when it gave three concerts in France | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
with a programme of Beethoven, Brahms and Wagner. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Since then, for the last seven decades, the orchestra has | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
continued the German symphonic tradition both at home and abroad, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
and it's now considered Bavaria's cultural ambassador to the world. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Appropriate, then, that it is the country's most travelled orchestra. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Since 2000, the orchestra's musical director has been an Englishman, Jonathan Nott. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
Now, there is absolutely nothing unusual | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
in British conductors working all over the world, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
but what is more unusual is that while Jonathan's musical education | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
was at Cambridge and the Royal Northern College of Music, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
he built his career in Germany. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
He joined the traditional German career ladder known as the Kapellmeister system, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
a sort of musical civil service in which you work your way from | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
job to job through a hierarchy of local opera houses and orchestras. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
Well, earlier I talked to Jonathan about the sound | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
of this orchestra we're going to hear tonight. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
I met this orchestra in 1999 for the first time, and was immediately | 0:02:36 | 0:02:42 | |
impressed with the sort of sound that they were making, which I've | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
described in many different ways - | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
some of which I regret. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
But a German-sounding orchestra, usually all the sound world is | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
created from the lower frequencies, so the string sound | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
will come from the basses, so I'm constantly saying | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
we'll let the basses lead if we have a crescendo in all the strings, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
you can't play any louder than the basses have just played. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
And then to try and choose a sound quality which is not so... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
You can choose whether you can make brilliant music | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
or whether you can make dark, mahogany-sounding music. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I personally like this mahogany-sounding music | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
because in the repertoire that I ended up by doing, which is a lot of German romantic music, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
it enables you to express sort of nebulous things, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:31 | |
it's sort of an inner cooking of sound, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
sort of a strata of rocks that gets pressed and it sort of glows, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
rather than diamonds, and, you know, razzamatazz. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
And I think that helps, to have a sort of... | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
If you're trying to express something which is four shades white and one shade black, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
which is happening all the time in most of German repertoire, and certainly Mahler, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
then it gives you sort of an extra colour. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
And so I'm always finding that it's not the first trumpet that plays loudest, it's the third trumpet. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:03 | |
Everything's coming from root - I mean, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
the longest string in the orchestra's obviously the bass. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
That element of sitting into a sound, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
letting something grow from the earth upwards, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
is something that I've grown very much to love. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
So how is Mahler's Fifth Symphony going to sound | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
played by you and the Bamberg Symphony Orchestra? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Well, what's lovely about this particular repertoire | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
is that we as a unit, as a conductor and an orchestra, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
have grown together through this repertoire over many years now, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
and I think the nice part of that is you get more and more daring in | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
what you want to say. And these pieces are never... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
seem to me each time I look at it, I find something that I wasn't expecting before, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
which means there's always something new to say, which means there's always more surprises. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
So we always have a big fight about exactly what we're going to say in the Adagietto, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
but I hope that that will be the most plastic music-making | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
that you could possibly imagine - it's neither slow nor fast, it just happens. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
And then I hope that the last movement, which is always a slight problem because it's a happy ending | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
and not many people like happy endings in Mahler symphonies, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
you have this fantastic Wunderhorn song, and then all the material from the fourth movement. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
So I hope that we won't make it just simply razzmatazz, that there's | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
going to be some element of...teasing and, a love element in there, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:20 | |
and you're coming from the deepest darkness of a Trauermarsch. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
But it needs to be Viennese, it needs to have this schmaltz, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
it needs to sort of be suave and sophisticated, and in fact, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
I'm sure that the scherzo, for example, has to have, it's like the scherzo of the Ninth, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
you have a Landler, a sort of peasant dance at the beginning, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
and then the second idea is a waltz, which is a very high society, sophisticated... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
So he plays with those two elements of dance. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
I try very hard to make them speak, bar by bar by bar, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
and yet my job is somehow to find one arch over these five movements. | 0:05:53 | 0:06:00 | |
So I hope you should be able to | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
find a symphony that we all know really very well, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
but it still should be crazy and daring | 0:06:04 | 0:06:10 | |
and incredibly sad and incredibly happy, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
and, you know, a whole world in one hour 15 minutes, you know? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
And Jonathan will shortly be taking to the stage | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
to join his orchestra, to conduct Mahler's epic Fifth Symphony. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
It was composed over the summers of 1901 and 1902, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
and it's in five movements. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
It's perhaps best known, though, for its fourth movement, the much-loved | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
and beautifully lyrical Adagietto, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
written as a love letter by Mahler to his young wife Alma, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and later made famous in the film Death In Venice. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
And here comes Jonathan Nott, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
to conduct the Bamberg Symphony Orchestra in Mahler's Fifth. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 1:17:47 | 1:17:49 | |
Mahler's Fifth Symphony. | 1:18:01 | 1:18:04 | |
The Bamberg Symphony Orchestra, so joyfully conducted by Jonathan Nott. | 1:18:04 | 1:18:10 | |
What a performance - that achingly beautiful Adagietto, | 1:18:12 | 1:18:16 | |
then that freewheeling final movement. | 1:18:16 | 1:18:19 | |
Jonathan leaving the stage there | 1:18:19 | 1:18:21 | |
to this extraordinary response in the Royal Albert Hall. | 1:18:21 | 1:18:24 | |
He looked a little dishevelled, didn't he? | 1:18:24 | 1:18:26 | |
I'm not surprised, the amount of passion he put into that performance. | 1:18:26 | 1:18:30 | |
He seemed to love and live every note. What an expressive man. | 1:18:30 | 1:18:34 | |
And that emotion obviously translated to the audience | 1:18:34 | 1:18:39 | |
and to every player on the stage, as well. | 1:18:39 | 1:18:42 | |
Well, that is all for tonight | 1:18:48 | 1:18:51 | |
but there's information about all the music, all the performers, on the BBC Proms website, | 1:18:51 | 1:18:55 | |
and don't forget you can hear every Prom live on BBC Radio 3. | 1:18:55 | 1:19:00 | |
I hope you have enjoyed this evening as much as we all have here, it's been pretty emotional. | 1:19:00 | 1:19:05 | |
Do join us again tomorrow at 7:30 on BBC Four, Samira Ahmed will be here | 1:19:05 | 1:19:10 | |
to introduce a performance of Rachmaninov's haunting | 1:19:10 | 1:19:13 | |
Second Piano Concerto, so don't miss that. | 1:19:13 | 1:19:15 | |
I'll be back next Thursday with a Prom by our next | 1:19:15 | 1:19:18 | |
Orchestra of the World, the Santa Cecilia Orchestra from Rome | 1:19:18 | 1:19:22 | |
conducted by Sir Antonio Pappano. | 1:19:22 | 1:19:24 | |
So, with all that to look forward to - from me, Katie Derham | 1:19:24 | 1:19:28 | |
and all of us here at the Royal Albert Hall, goodnight. | 1:19:28 | 1:19:32 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 1:19:32 | 1:19:35 |