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Tonight we travel though the rugged soundscapes

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of central Europe by way of a whole new musical solar system.

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Welcome to the BBC Proms 2017.

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The BBC Symphony Orchestra, the backbone of the BBC Proms,

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is back in the Royal Albert Hall tonight

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to perform music by Bartok and Dvorak,

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and a contemporary work

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by the acclaimed young American Missy Mazzoli.

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Hello, I'm Sara Mohr-Pietsch.

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Welcome to our final night of BBC Four broadcasts from the BBC Proms.

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We have a special last-night double bill for you this evening

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with the ground-breaking debut of "Chineke!",

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Europe's first black and minority ethnic orchestra

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which you'll be able to see straight after this concert.

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And we're about to see another debut

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from the young American Karina Canellakis,

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her first time conducting at the Proms.

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Karina started out as a violinist before being encouraged to take up

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the baton by none other than Sir Simon Rattle, and last year,

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she won the prestigious Georg Solti Conducting Prize.

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Joining Karina tonight is fellow American, the pianist Jeremy Denk,

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who'll be playing Bartok's Second Piano Concerto -

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a piece that's notoriously difficult

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and challenging for both the soloist and the orchestra.

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And we finish with the richly melodic and adventurous

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Eighth Symphony by Dvorak,

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reinterpreting the traditions and folk music of his Czech homeland.

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But first, Missy Mazzoli, the toast of New York,

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and a hugely celebrated composer of new opera.

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In her orchestral Sinfonia (For Orbiting Spheres),

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Missy takes us on a journey to the centre of a musical solar system.

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Lloyd Coleman caught up with her at rehearsals to find out more.

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Let's talk about your piece that's being played,

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-Sinfonia (For Orbiting Spheres)...

-Yes.

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Can you tell me a bit about that title, what it means?

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Well, the word "sinfonia" has a couple of different meanings

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throughout history, so it can refer to a Baroque orchestral work,

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and this piece certainly has a lot of Baroque influences.

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But there's another meaning which is that

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sinfonia is the old-fashioned word, Italian word for the hurdy-gurdy,

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which is the cranked medieval instrument. I have a real thing

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for out-of-tune, old, strange instruments.

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I'm not going to give it away, but you know, in this piece,

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there are some strange instruments

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that the orchestra plays that sort of imitate

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the sound of a hurdy-gurdy, so I thought, OK, you know,

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what if I try to turn the orchestra into a massive hurdy-gurdy?

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So, there's that!

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And then the "orbiting spheres" part is I had this other idea to try

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to create a piece in the shape of a solar system, which, again,

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sounds maybe crazy and impossible, but, it's just the idea

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of all these little loops that come together to create bigger loops.

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And the piece itself ends where it starts,

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but in a massively transformed way,

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which again, I'm not going to give away the ending,

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but it comes back in a very unexpected, strange way.

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You do ask the orchestra, or some members of the orchestra,

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-to pick up a harmonica, or a melodica.

-Yeah.

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How have you found the response of the players?

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It's tricky. And you know, you're asked to play this toy instrument

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that you've never...maybe never played before

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and, maybe it feels silly, but I think once they hear it,

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they realise that it's actually...

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You know, the sound of a harmonica is actually, for me,

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a very heartbreaking sound.

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It's intimately connected to everyone's breath,

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it's a sound that everyone is familiar with.

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So, I think, to put that in the context

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of this virtuosic playing

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is actually quite tender

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and it gives the piece a sort of vulnerable quality.

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So, I think that these players have such good ears that they,

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I think, after the first rehearsal

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they heard how it worked with the strings

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and realised that it wasn't a joke, it wasn't a gimmick,

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but it was a genuine part of the sound world.

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When you're in the Albert Hall, will you be nervous at that point?

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Is it a moment of, "Oh, it's out of my hands now,

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"it's in the musicians' hands!"

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Or is it just something that, you know, you just let the piece go?

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Yeah, I mean, I wish that I could have

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that sort of Zen attitude about it,

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but I'm probably going to be, like, sweating out of my palms profusely!

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Very honest of you! Very honest of you.

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Obviously, there's something strange about not having control

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and then you have to go up on stage and say, "That was mine."

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You know, like, and represent.

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So, I think I'll be very scared, but very excited.

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So, get ready for the Royal Albert Hall to be transformed

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into a sort of musical planetarium

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as Karina Canellakis takes to the stage

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to conduct the BBC Symphony Orchestra

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in Sinfonia (For Orbiting Spheres) by Missy Mazzoli.

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APPLAUSE

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SILENCE DESCENDS

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APPLAUSE

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The American composer Missy Mazzoli turning

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the orchestra into a musical solar system and a giant hurdy-gurdy.

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The European premiere of Sinfonia (For Orbiting Spheres)

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by Missy Mazzoli.

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Karina Canellakis making her Proms debut

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conducting the BBC Symphony Orchestra

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in the European premiere of Mazzoli's piece.

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Originally a piece of chamber music,

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but turned into that full orchestral version last year

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for the Boulder Symphony Orchestra in Colorado.

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Here's Missy Mazzoli making her way onto the stage

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of the Royal Albert Hall.

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She had a huge success recently with her full-length opera,

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Breaking The Waves, based on the film by Lars von Trier.

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It was in New York earlier on this year and won Best Opera

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in the American Music Critics' Association.

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And she has a third opera

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due to be premiered in Washington DC next January.

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Missy Mazzoli described by the New York Time Out

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as "Brooklyn's post-millennial Mozart".

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Next tonight, Bartok's Second Piano Concerto,

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a virtuosic piece written by a true virtuoso.

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Bartok is remembered today

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as one of the greatest Hungarian composers of the 20th century,

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but during his life he earned his living

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mainly from teaching and playing the piano

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and he was also a pioneering collector

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and a passionate expert in central European folk music,

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particularly of the Hungarian, Romanian and Slovak peasantry.

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Bartok was an uncommonly gifted pianist,

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but even he found his own work challenging at times.

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It's said that after he wrote his fiendish First Piano Concerto

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in 1927, he resolved that his second would be less difficult to play,

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so quite how he ended up with a piece this hard, who knows?

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The great pianist Sir Andras Schiff famously said that every time

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he finishes the Second Concerto, there's blood on the keyboard.

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We caught up with tonight's soloist Jeremy Denk in rehearsals.

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So, Bartok's Second Piano Concerto

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is about two kinds of virtuosity -

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his virtuosity as a pianist

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and his tremendous virtuosity as a composer.

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It's in three very different movements.

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The first channels Bach, Gabrielli, earlier music,

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so there's all this wonderful chatter between the brass,

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the winds and the piano. You know, counterpoint.

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Kind of an orgy of counterpoint!

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Then, the second movement, completely different mood,

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everything turns still.

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It's a great "dark night of the soul" Hungarian lament,

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and the piano sings these kind of Hungarian blues.

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And then the last movement,

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good old-fashioned riotous Hungarian gypsy dance

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and he brings back all the themes from the first movement

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so that the piece is symmetrical, and it rounds itself out

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and it returns to its beginnings.

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APPLAUSE

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The American pianist Jeremy Denk making his way onto the stage

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of the Royal Albert Hall, joining the BBC Symphony Orchestra

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with Karina Canellakis for the musical orgy

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that is Bartok's Second Piano Concerto here at the BBC Proms.

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SILENCE DESCENDS

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MOVEMENT ENDS

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NEXT MOVEMENT BEGINS

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MOVEMENT ENDS

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NEXT MOVEMENT BEGINS

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Well, there's no blood on the keyboard of the piano,

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and, frankly, Jeremy Denk looked like he barely broke a sweat.

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But what an astonishingly muscular and radiant performance

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of one of the most challenging works in the repertoire,

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Bartok's Second Piano Concerto -

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Jeremy Denk at the BBC Proms with the BBC Symphony Orchestra

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conducted by Karina Canellakis.

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Bartok's Second Concerto is so difficult for both pianist

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and orchestra that it's barely ever performed.

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So, a wonderful treat to hear it here at the Proms.

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And since it's done so rarely,

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there are members of the BBC Symphony Orchestra

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playing it for the first time tonight.

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Exquisite playing from the BBC Symphony Orchestra.

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Bartok's score demands such a lot from them.

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Jeremy Denk is a real musical polymath.

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As well as an astonishing virtuoso pianist,

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he's also a composer, a writer

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and a winner of the MacArthur Genius Prize.

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And now for something completely different.

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LAUGHTER

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Something completely different indeed!

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American pianist Jeremy Denk

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could not have picked a more perfect encore

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than the slow movement of Mozart's C-Major Sonata

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which carries the nick-name, the "Sonata Facile",

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the "simple" or easy sonata. So, the ideal antidote

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to the fiendishly challenging Bartok concerto

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he played earlier this evening at the Proms.

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Well, we've got about 20 minutes now

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before the second part of this Prom

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and we're almost at the end of this year's BBC Proms festival.

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It all wraps up tomorrow night

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with the traditional Last Night celebrations.

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So, to mark the end of a glorious eight-week season

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of broadcasts here on BBC Four,

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we thought we'd take the chance to relive

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just some of our favourite moments,

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including some other encores from the 2017 BBC Proms.

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APPLAUSE

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LOUD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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MUTED SASSY NOTES

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APPLAUSE

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WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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Just a taste of the BBC 2017 Proms and, of course,

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lots of the television and radio broadcasts are still there

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to relive on BBC iPlayer.

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Well, the BBC Symphony Orchestra is starting to return

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to the stage here at the Albert Hall.

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The second half of their concert devoted to just one work -

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music by the great Czech master, Dvorak,

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and his gloriously joyful Eighth Symphony.

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Unlike his other late symphonies, which are outward-looking,

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the Eighth is a profoundly personal take

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on the music of his homeland,

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written in his summer home in Bohemia.

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During rehearsals, Lloyd Coleman spoke to tonight's conductor,

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Karina Canellakis, about this symphony,

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and also about her stellar career which has taken her

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from a job as a professional violinist to the conductor's podium.

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Working with an orchestra like the BBC Symphony Orchestra,

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how does your experience

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as a professional violin player inform that?

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My experience playing string quartets

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probably influenced my approach as a conductor,

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my approach to scores,

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more than any other single thing that I've done as a musician.

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The analytical way you have to approach

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playing in a string quartet,

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the way that you have to try things dozens of times.

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You have to also learn how to communicate with other people

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without speaking,

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without necessarily dictating

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or deciding every single tiny detail,

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but sometimes it has to be left up to...what happens in the moment.

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I understand that none other than Sir Simon Rattle

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became something of a mentor for you,

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or encouraged you to take up conducting?

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He heard me play a chamber music concert and was very encouraging,

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um, towards the idea that I would become a conductor.

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And he gave me a tremendous amount of confidence and guidance.

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We are still very much in regular contact

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and talk about all things related to nerdy conductor problems.

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What a thought! You and Simon Rattle having coffee over a score

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and nerding out over Dvorak Eight or whatever!

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I think all conductors love to nerd out together.

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And it's your first time at the Proms as a conductor,

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but it is also your first time conducting

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the BBC Symphony Orchestra.

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What do you make of this particular band?

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Everyone is excited to play at the Proms,

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and, at the same time, we're still getting to know each other,

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there is a lot of electricity in the air

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and there's a lot of suspense, even, as to what is going to happen.

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How are we going to react to each other on that stage

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with that audience on that particular day?

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So, I'm very happy and very excited to work with them.

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The Eighth Symphony by Dvorak - what did this piece mean to you

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and why do you want to play it at this Prom?

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I love this symphony...so much.

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I think it's, um...

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one of the most joyful pieces ever written.

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It is so beautifully constructed,

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every movement complements every other movement,

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and by the time you get to the third movement,

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this theme that the violins play, you don't expect it,

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and it just takes you into a whole other world.

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And then, you get to the last movement

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and the trumpets have this fanfare

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that comes out of...out of nowhere.

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And you expect, perhaps, something victorious or march-like,

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and you don't get that at all. You get, again,

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the cellos somehow reminding you of the beginning of the symphony,

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but then they play something incredibly tender,

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like a lullaby, and then, after that,

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you have the exciting full orchestra that comes in.

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But even at that moment, it's never aggressive,

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it's never violent, it's never that kind of intensity

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that you would hear from perhaps other composers.

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There's always a roundness to the sound,

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there's always a richness and a suppleness

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in the sound in Dvorak's music.

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And especially in the Eighth Symphony.

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And, ultimately, at the end of the symphony,

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just the most sort of ebullient and joyful ending you could imagine.

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We should have a thesaurus to look up

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all the different words for "joy",

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because it's just... that is what this piece embodies.

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It's just absolute, pure joy.

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Karina Canellakis, and here she comes to conduct

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the BBC Symphony orchestra in Dvorak's Eighth Symphony.

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APPLAUSE

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SILENCE DESCENDS

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MOVEMENT ENDS

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NEXT MOVEMENT BEGINS

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MOVEMENT ENDS

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NEXT MOVEMENT BEGINS

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The BBC Symphony Orchestra bringing warmth,

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exuberance and plenty of joy to that performance

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of Dvorak's Eighth Symphony,

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conducted here at the BBC Proms for the first time

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by the American Karina Canellakis.

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The Eighth is one of Dvorak's most popular symphonies,

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second only perhaps to the one that came after, the Ninth,

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the so-called New World Symphony.

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Karina Canellakis bringing principal flute Michael Cox to his feet,

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principal clarinet Richard Hosford, principal oboe Richard Simpson.

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And that's bassoonist Amy Harman.

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Some wonderful woodwind writing by Dvorak in that symphony.

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And Karina Canellakis was making her debut tonight as a conductor

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at the Proms, although she has already played at the festival

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as a violinist back in 2008.

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She appeared in a concert with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra

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under Bernard Haitink.

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There's lots of wonderful standout solo and orchestral writing,

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but it's a very collegiate piece, Dvorak Eight.

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Dvorak doesn't give any one individual limelight to a player,

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he involves the entire orchestra

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in the atmosphere of warmth and optimism.

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Well, that's the end of this concert given by the BBC Symphony Orchestra,

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but do stay tuned because straight after this broadcast,

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you can watch the ground-breaking orchestra "Chineke!"

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in their Proms debut from last week.

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And, of course, tomorrow night, starting at 7.15 on BBC Two,

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we'll begin our live broadcast

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of the Last Night celebrations of the BBC Proms 2017.

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But, for now, from all of us here at the Royal Albert Hall, goodnight.

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