Rhaglen Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:30 Jonathan

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-Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora!

-Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora!

-Tenei Te Tangata Puhuru huru

-Nana nei tiki mai Whakawhiti te ra.

-Hello and welcome to the show.

-The Lions are out in New Zealand.

-They're not the only ones

-having a hard time this weekend.

-Keeping me company is Sarra Elgan.

-And where's...?

-I don't know

-but I like the replacement.

-He has a lovely golden ball.

-Where is he this time? Where is he?

-I don't know.

-Jiffy, Sarra, hiya.

-Sorry I can't be there.

-As you can see,

-I'm out here in Argentina.

-The life of an international referee

-is very busy.

-I'm off for a tough session

-in the gym.

-What are you two up to?

-What are you two up to?

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-That's more Barbados than Argentina!

-I've visited Argentina

-and I've never seen that place.

-Hang on, I've heard

-you've won another accolade.

-Another award - the person who's

-missed the most Jonathan programmes.

-Yes, Jiff,

-I won the Pro 12 Chairman's Award.

-The chairman is your hero -

-Gerald Davies.

-He presented me with an award

-for my contribution to the Pro 12.

-Have they ever given you an award,

-Jiff?

-Did he mutate

-the word contribution?!

-Yes, he tried to mutate

-contribution.

-There's no mutation

-in cont-ribution.

-Let's just leave it there.

-Who's on the show tonight?

-When I saw you, I didn't know what

-I wanted. My head was spinning.

-When I asked what we were going

-to do, you said it was up to me.

-Both of us, we'd kick it

-and it would bounce back.

-It was never our fault.

-Please welcome singer and actress

-Rebecca Trehearn...

-..and a rugby legend,

-Sir Gareth Edwards.

-A warm welcome to you.

-Rebecca, I hear you don't

-understand much about rugby.

-I'd be lying if I said I did. I'm

-sure I'll learn something tonight.

-Tell me you know

-who's sitting next to you.

-Yes, by now.

-Yes, by now.

-

-Good, I'm glad.

-Gareth, do you know much

-about musicals?

-I watch them every week.

-I watch them every week.

-

-Do you?

-I love watching singers.

-My father had a particularly

-good voice.

-I'd hoped one day

-I could follow him.

-My father released a record,

-you might know that.

-Unfortunately,

-I had my mother's voice.

-I think he'd be quite happy

-with what you achieved in life.

-It's been a difficult tour

-for the Lions up until now.

-Here are the highlights.

-The British and Irish Lions.

-Somehow, some way,

-they escape with a victory.

-A performance and a game to forget.

-Here's a very proud man.

-Here are the Blues. Here's

-New Zealand rugby at its best.

-That's a warning to the Lions.

-A victory for the Lions.

-They controlled the game

-and dominated the Crusaders.

-Nobody will catch Tommy Seymour.

-Tension in Dunedin.

-The home team close in on victory.

-This is the type of rugby

-that can win the series.

-The Lions dominated this game.

-Here's Liam Williams.

-Acres of space. Great from Williams.

-The off-load to Payne.

-We've waited a long time

-to see some quality rugby.

-What do you think of the games

-up until now?

-It's what I expected.

-It's been hard and physical.

-The Lions are starting to look...

-..as if they have a chance

-against the All Blacks.

-Whisper it quietly

-because we know how hard it'll be.

-I think they've done well.

-What do you think of

-Warren Gatland's squad in general?

-As individuals,

-they are strong players.

-From the first day, we've wanted

-to know if they can play as a team.

-You can see it starting to click.

-By Saturday, I hope

-they'll be playing like a team.

-Jonathan and I were talking in

-Make-up, he was there for two hours.

-We had a plenty of time to discuss.

-We were talking about players

-who'd shone so far.

-Who's impressed you?

-Itoje, I like him.

-He's in excellent form.

-Kruis too. That's where I think

-we have a chance.

-If we can take the All Blacks on

-up front, we have a chance.

-One thing that always happens...

-..some players are injured,

-some are out of form.

-What do you think of the decision

-to bring in the Welsh players?

-First,

-what about the players left at home?

-I wasn't very happy about it,

-as a former player.

-I think about how difficult it is

-to be chosen to play for the Lions.

-I spoke to ex-players and we agreed

-that tradition is very important...

-..but Gatland wants to win.

-It's like telling Rebecca

-that there's a show next week...

-..but someone less talented who

-lives closer will take your place.

-That's what it is.

-You wouldn't be happy with that.

-I was going to ask you about Kruis

-and Itoje but you don't like rugby.

-I agree with everything Gareth said.

-I agree with everything Gareth said.

-

-Well done for agreeing.

-We'll talk to both of you later.

-What's this week's news?

-I'll tell you, Jiff.

-After Austin Healey's Twitter rant

-at Warren Gatland...

-..the Lions have booked him

-a special limo.

-Look at the shape of the entourage.

-Gatland has revealed the secret

-to the Lions' defensive strength.

-Tackle practice wherever you are.

-Do you wanna help me bring it in?

-Do you wanna help me bring it in?

-

-How's the fishing?

-Help me bring it in.

-New Zealand have denied that they've

-bugged the Lions' hotel rooms.

-We have evidence that they're lying.

-That's the news.

-Well, that's it for Part 1.

-Join us after the break.

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-Welcome back. Quite a few

-Welsh players are in New Zealand.

-Sarra visited Whitland Rugby Club to

-speak to the friends of one of them.

-Jon Davies, aka Jon Fox.

-Scarlets, Wales, Lions.

-While he's in New Zealand,

-I've come down to Whitland RFC...

-..to get to know him better.

-Good idea? Yeah.

-Here's Dan,

-a coach with Whitland RFC.

-Dan, how do you know Jon?

-I spent time in school with Jonathan

-and we played rugby together.

-Was he average back then?

-Wasn't great, was he?

-Just average, really, yeah.

-He got through.

-Taught him everything he knows.

-I met Jonathan first when

-I was head teacher in Bancyfelin.

-Jonathan started there when he was

-four and I've known him ever since.

-What was he like in school?

-Very quiet, conscientious.

-Very tidy.

-Tidy?

-Tidy?

-

-Very tidy.

-He has very tidy handwriting.

-As I say, he liked to please

-teachers, a bit of a charmer.

-Swot?

-Swot?

-

-I wouldn't say he was a swot.

-He could charm the staff,

-the teachers and the pupils.

-We know, we've heard,

-that Jon's a lovely chap.

-I want dirt, I want stories.

-Have you got any for me?

-There's one amusing story

-because he was a good cricketer.

-He played cricket for Whitland,

-he still plays for Whitland.

-When he was a young lad,

-we were playing against Fishguard.

-He opened the bowling for Whitland

-and bowled out their opener.

-He was quite pleased with himself.

-He was even more pleased when

-I told him it was Mark Delaney...

-..the Aston Villa

-and Wales full-back.

-Jon was so unassuming,

-he didn't make a fuss about it.

-I got Mark's autograph

-for him afterwards.

-Even the stories about him are nice.

-I know. Can't drink much.

-Ha, see, now that's the kind

-of dirt I want. I love that.

-There was one game with the youth

-where we went out afterwards.

-He made it on to the train but was

-a bit ill. His mum picked him up.

-That was when he was probably

-about 16, 17, maybe.

-There's a running theme here.

-Paul told us he wasn't great.

-Did you think when you played

-with him he'd be a British Lion?

-Um, yeah. I had very high hopes

-for him, to be honest.

-He was a class above,

-even against guys older than him.

-He always sort of stood out,

-Jon did.

-He's reaping the rewards now,

-in all fairness to him.

-Now then, Rebecca, you're

-an actress, a star of the theatre.

-Where did it all begin?

-When I was a child, I competed in

-eisteddfodau from the age of seven.

-I joined the local theatre group

-when I was eight years old.

-I haven't stopped since.

-You're very experienced now.

-What shows have you done?

-We Will Rock You in the West End...

-..Dirty Dancing, Ghost,

-Floyd Collins, City of Angels...

-..Aspects of Love, Love Story.

-I'm old now.

-You're doing Showboat now.

-Showboat finished in August.

-Who did you play?

-Who did you play?

-

-Julie LaVerne, the main part.

-A secret is revealed that ruins

-her career on the showboat.

-It was a fantastic part to play.

-She ages 12 years during the show.

-It was a brilliant experience.

-Was that the show

-that was meant to last a few weeks?

-Initially,

-I had four weeks in Sheffield...

-..and then we had an extra week.

-By the end of the run, I heard

-rumours of a switch to the West End.

-That happened and we completed

-six months by the end.

-I feel so lucky,

-I was proud to be part of the show.

-I'm glad it was taken

-to a bigger audience.

-You're downplaying it but

-you recently won a major accolade.

-Yes, I won an Olivier for Best

-Supporting Actress in a Musical...

-..for my part in Showboat.

-What was that like?

-It's an iconic award.

-Did you know beforehand

-that you'd win it?

-No, no, no. It was amazing.

-It was a day like today, so hot.

-We were at the Albert Hall

-and it was packed.

-I had no idea

-when the category would be called.

-As it happened,

-it was right towards the end.

-I'd sat there sweating,

-desperate for a drink.

-I just wanted to know

-so that I could relax.

-It was worth the wait.

-When people go up to accept

-an award...

-..they always say

-they haven't prepared a speech.

-Had you prepared one?

-I didn't write anything down,

-I felt I would jinx it like that.

-I'd planned it in my head because

-I didn't want to forget anyone...

-..if I managed to win the award.

-You also prepared a losing face

-just in case.

-I'd mastered that from eisteddfodau,

-since I was a child.

-Is it something like this?

-What were you like when you lost?

-I wasn't happy. I'm never happy!

-Ask the golfers I play with.

-He doesn't like losing.

-You don't like losing.

-I don't like losing

-but losing is part of learning.

-Yes, but you don't want to learn

-too much from losing.

-One more thing, you appeared

-in the stage version of Ghost.

-You played Molly.

-What was it like to play that part?

-Everyone recognises Unchained Melody

-and it was in the show.

-The same with the potter's wheel.

-The same with the potter's wheel.

-

-This is like the potter's wheel.

-That's what everyone expected...

-I'd pay good money

-to see you with a potter's wheel.

-I'd feel sick watching you do it

-but I'd definitely pay for it.

-I had to learn how to do it

-on stage.

-I was nervous

-I'd make a mess of the pot.

-Did the pot always turn out right

-in the end?

-It was like that.

-I came to see one show you were in,

-We Will Rock You.

-You told me you didn't know

-any Queen sings.

-I knew some but I would never

-have called myself a fan of Queen.

-By the end, I loved them.

-The songs are fantastic.

-It was so much fun.

-It was so much fun.

-

-You met a group member. Which one?

-Brian May. He was heavily involved

-in the show, him and Roger Taylor.

-Brian May came to my 24th birthday

-party. That's my claim to fame.

-Amazing.

-I heard all the photos were blurry.

-Unfortunately. I was so nervous,

-all the photos were hopeless.

-Sadly, you can hardly recognise him,

-apart from the hair.

-Was performing something

-that ran in your family?

-That often happens to actors.

-Not really. Mam can sing

-but I don't know where it came from.

-What did your family do in Rhyl?

-The family owned an arcade

-and a nightclub on the seafront.

-When I was growing up,

-I worked in the arcade.

-I'd serve ice cream and candyfloss.

-That must have been amazing.

-The problem was,

-I would sit there and eat all day.

-Exactly, amazing.

-Donncha O'Callaghan and Ryan Jones

-featured on the 2005 Lions tour.

-Here they are playing Friends.

-Bristol skills coach,

-about to go to Ulster.

-Really wiry fella,

-a ratty looking man. Dwayne Peel.

-There you go.

-Grumpiest man you'd ever meet.

-Victor Meldrew. Head like a melon.

-This is the most miserable guy

-ever to play rugby.

-Does his head fit on there?

-Does his head fit on there?

-

-There's actually two pictures.

-Gethin Jenkins. Melon.

-Centre. Sky. Was mad keen

-about his music on that tour.

-Gave out to fellas for picking

-poor songs on the iPod.

-Works on Sky, Mr Sky Sports.

-Looks like Scooby Doo's mate.

-Shaggy. Will Greenwood.

-Come on then.

-Has a mullet,

-the only mullet in rugby.

-The most famous mullet in sport.

-Grumpy man, very grumpy.

-Miserable as well.

-Built like a true rugby athlete.

-Modern day rugby athlete.

-Shane Byrne.

-The mastermind of the tour.

-The mastermind of the tour.

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-Sir Clive.

-Scrum coach, forwards coach,

-horrendous ears.

-Wig.

-Horrendous ears.

-The best Welsh back of all time,

-I think.

-Incredible footwork.

-Gareth Edwards?

-No, your era.

-Is it like a life-size picture?

-Is it like a life-size picture?

-

-It's actually to scale.

-Shane. Shane Williams.

-There you go, well done. Good job.

-Right, one minute to go.

-Rebecca,

-it's time for you to Hit The Bar.

-Otini, where are you? Come here.

-Wait there.

-You're on first name terms now.

-Oh, yes. Who's on the bar tonight?

-Steve Hansen. Well done, Otini.

-Right then, Rebecca, five points

-for each ball that goes over.

-10 points if you hit Smiler. That's

-the first time I've seen him smile.

-And, if this one goes over,

-double the points.

-This one doubles your points.

-Who's holding the balls?

-What's your name?

-Daniel from Bargoed.

-Up you go. Rebecca, off you go.

-Any tips?

-Toe pokers. Down you go.

-One, two, three, go.

-Toe pokers, come on.

-That went over.

-Give it more of a swing.

-Your time is up.

-Your time is up.

-

-That's why I sing.

-What's Rebecca's score?

-Well done-ish. You scored 10.

-You didn't even kick that one over.

-That's the end of this part.

-Before we go,

-here's a question from Nigel.

-Before the break, here's a clip

-from the 2013 Lions Tour...

-..when George North scored a try

-to help the Lions to victory.

-North goes on the outside.

-North for the corner.

-He's been unleashed.

-Here's my question.

-Which Aussie missed two penalties

-to win the game for the home side?

-I'll give you the answer

-after the break.

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-Before the break, Nigel asked you

-a question about the Lions.

-What's the answer?

-Thanks, Jiff.

-Which Aussie missed two penalties...

-..to win the game

-for the home side on the 2013 Tour?

-The answer is Kurtley Beale.

-Gareth, you have a long history

-with the Lions.

-Do you remember how many times

-you played for them?

-No! I went on three tours,

-three tours, '68, '71 and '74.

-Ten tests.

-Ten tests.

-

-Ten tests...

-..but we used to play 26 games

-during the tour back then.

-I probably played

-about 15 of those games.

-Did you train every day?

-Did you train every day?

-

-Of course. Oh, yes.

-What did you think they did?

-What did you think they did?

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-They weren't professionals.

-That's how close we got

-to being professional at that time.

-You were part of the only Lions team

-to beat the All Blacks in a series.

-Why do you think

-you were so successful...

-..and how difficult was it

-and is it?

-We had a good team, I think.

-You can only look back at that time.

-At the time, we weren't confident.

-No team had won a series out there.

-We lost our first game.

-As we left,

-they said it was the worst team...

-..that had ever left Australia

-for New Zealand.

-We didn't expect to be successful.

-We had Carwyn James as a coach

-and he gave us enough confidence...

-..and prepared us well.

-When we went out there,

-we started well...

-..and we gained

-a lot of experience very quickly...

-..because we played so many games.

-We were only a squad of 32 players

-at the time.

-If someone had an injury...

-..and I pulled a hamstring

-during the First Test...

-..I had to come off

-after 20 minutes.

-We played the following week and we

-didn't know who'd play scrum-half.

-I remember our captain, centre John

-Dawes, piping up, "Oh, I'll play."

-"Have you played No.9 before?"

-"I've played there in sevens rugby."

-Who was your nemesis

-in terms of the All Blacks?

-Well, one of the greatest players

-in the world, Sid Going.

-He was a very special player.

-He was solid, strong,

-he was a very strong runner.

-I wouldn't say he was smaller

-than me, that doesn't say much...

-..but he was solid and strong.

-You had to keep an eagle eye

-on him all the time.

-I've heard you say

-how the game's changed.

-It's cleaner now,

-you can't get away with anything.

-The dirtiest game you ever played in

-was on that tour...

-..against Canterbury -

-you were worried for your life.

-My grandmother said at the time...

-..I'm never buying lamb

-from Canterbury ever again.

-It was dirty, I've never played

-in a game like that.

-In the first 20 minutes...

-..the Canterbury players

-turned to the Lions...

-..and punched them

-out of the line-out.

-The boys said, "Right,

-we're not going to take that again."

-We retaliated in the second half,

-everyone fighting.

-I was trying to stay clear

-of trouble, "Stop it, boys!"

-Irishman Ray McLoughlin

-was one of our best props.

-He was one of the world's

-best props.

-He smacked the Canterbury No.8,

-Grizz Wylie.

-You would call it a good shot

-but he actually broke his wrist!

-Quite quickly, Fergus Slattery had

-his teeth knocked down his throat.

-Carwyn was going to play Barry...

-..to prepare him for the First Test

-the following week.

-Barry was already changed

-and ready to go.

-As we ran out onto the field...

-..Carwyn said, "Come here,

-give your shirt to Arthur Lewis."

-That was quite serious, but I've

-never laughed so much in my life.

-The first tackle Arthur took,

-his two legs were up like this...

-..in his chest.

-He tried something...

-.."Oy, I'm not Barry John,

-I've only got his shirt on my back."

-It wasn't only the 1971 tour

-that was difficult.

-Went you toured South Africa

-in 1974, the 99 call was adopted.

-Yes, the Lions of '74 had gained

-a lot of experience by then...

-..and we said, "We're not

-putting up with this anymore.

-"If anyone starts it,

-we all pile in."

-Willie John said,

-"Hit the player closest to you."

-Bobby Windsor had no problems

-getting into a fight.

-"Leave them to me as well!"

-So this was the call.

-If they started something,

-Willie John would shout 99.

-He says it was meant to be 999...

-..but the fighting would start

-before we got to the final 9.

-He only had time to say 99.

-Who was closest to you?

-Who was closest to you?

-

-Oh, I stayed out of the way.

-I don't like talking about it...

-..because it's not

-a good example for youngsters

-You have to remember

-that back then...

-..there were no cameras, you

-couldn't see what was going on...

-..and you had to

-look after yourself.

-You had no mobile phones back then.

-How long were you away for?

-Three and a half months.

-How did you contact home?

-On the telephone.

-It used to cost 1 a minute

-from South Africa and New Zealand.

-A pound was a lot of money.

-Do you know what I did on tour?

-Same thing, I was out

-in Samoa and New Zealand...

-..and we were amateurs at the time.

-You made your fortune

-after retiring.

-I was an amateur.

-We had to try and find a telephone

-in the hotel where we stayed.

-The room telephone

-was too expensive.

-One of the players

-broke into the manager's room...

-..and as we went training

-one morning, he said...

-.."Right,

-I have someone's number here.

-"He broke into my room.

-I want to know who he is."

-Not a word.

-"If he doesn't own up,

-I'll read the number out."

-Not a word.

-He started reading

-the number out...

-..whatever it was... 5... 42.

-Before he finished,

-Mark Ring stood up and said...

-.."Who's been ringing my wife?"

-It was tradition for you to sing

-when you went on tour.

-Ken Owens has kept the tradition

-going. Here's Ken singing.

-# Calon lan yn llawn daioni

-# Tecach yw na'r lili dlos

-# Dim ond calon lan all ganu

-# Canu'r dydd a chanu'r nos #

-What did you think of that singing?

-Fair play to them.

-Taking part is what matters.

-You're a good singer.

-Isn't he, Jiff?

-We've found something.

-Don't hide now.

-He said earlier he sang

-like his mother. Listen to this.

-# Will you do it anymore

-# As soon as you walk out the door

-# Well, I just wonder did you ever

-# All the time #

-Right.

-Aren't we lucky we found that?

-I won't forget that, Jiff.

-I'm in trouble now.

-Do you remember that?

-Do you remember that?

-

-Remember it, yes.

-That was after a tour.

-How did they persuade you?

-How did they persuade you?

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-Joe Jones owned Cambrian Records.

-He said he wanted me to do it.

-It would be something good to do

-after the Lions Tour.

-I said, "Joe, I can't sing."

-I told him that. He said,

-"Don't worry, that's not important."

-As you can see.

-As you can see.

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-Was it a No.1?

-Yes! It went to No.1

-in the Welsh chart.

-Well done.

-Any hope for him in the West End?

-It reminds me of the Springfields.

-Dusty and her brother.

-Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood

-sang it together.

-Fair play.

-That's what happens when you're

-successful playing for the Lions.

-Nigel will be singing next,

-watch out.

-Right, well... I can imagine

-Nigel singing on an album.

-One minute to go. Let's Hit The Bar.

-It's your turn, Gareth. You're the

-first Sir to try and Hit The Bar.

-And here especially, Otini.

-Come and hold these balls.

-Up you come, Gareth.

-Can I trust him?

-You might have a job for life here.

-You might have a job for life here.

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-10 points to beat!

-Ready? Three, two, one.

-Right.

-He's good at the haka

-but rubbish at holding balls.

-Can you tell him that?

-What was Gareth's score?

-What was Gareth's score?

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-Gareth Edwards, 60.

-I told you he was competitive.

-Very competitive.

-It's time for another break.

-Here's Shane Williams to tell us

-why he loves the Lions so much.

-Love The Lions.

-Best memory from a Lions Tour?

-Playing in the Third Test in 2009.

-It was special to me and

-I scored two tries to win the game.

-I'll always remember that.

-The hardest player you faced?

-The hardest player I faced

-on a Lions Tour was Rico Gear.

-I remember a collision

-between Gear and Henson...

-..and Henson wanted to go off,

-he'd had enough.

-That was in the first 20 minutes.

-That's what Gear was like.

-Favourite memorabilia?

-In the Third Test again,

-against South Africa...

-..I had a gold bullion

-as Man of the Match.

-I lost it.

-They sent me another one

-and I found the one I'd lost.

-I had two in the end.

-Funniest moment?

-After the Third Test,

-after a couple of pints...

-..Mike Phillips and Shaun Edwards

-were wrestling.

-It was funny

-because Shaun Edwards won.

-Mike Phillips' nose was bleeding.

-Just to see the two of them rolling

-around on the floor was funny.

-I love the Lions because...

-I love everything

-that comes with it.

-The experience of playing and

-facing the best teams in the world.

-Wherever you go,

-there are Lions' supporters there.

-They turn up all the time.

-I enjoyed myself so much.

-Love the Lions

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-Welcome back.

-Lisa Angharad

-is back on the programme.

-Here she is.

-I'm Lisa Angharad

-and I'm in Ammanford.

-Once again, I've got my hands

-on Jiffy's wallet.

-Since I'm so generous, I want to

-share his wealth with the public.

-They'll have to work for it though.

-Let's play What's In Jiffy's Wallet?

-Right, for the chance to win

-the contents of Jiffy's wallet...

-..who is the Lions' coach?

-Warren Gatwick?

-Gatland.

-Gatland.

-

-You did well then.

-Warren Gatland.

-Who is the Lions' coach?

-Who is the Lions' coach?

-

-Warren Gatland.

-Hooray. Ready to play the game.

-Here we go, Jiffy's wallet.

-Real thing.

-This way round, is it?

-Can't get the staff these days.

-Right then.

-Round 1.

-Name two Lions players

-with the surname Williams. Obvious.

-No idea.

-Shane!

-Shane!

-

-Shane Williams. And another?

-John. My husband's name is John.

-There's no John on the list.

-Liam Williams.

-Liam Williams.

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-Round 2.

-The team is called the Lions.

-I want you to roar like a Lion

-louder that 90 decibels.

-Ready?

-After three. Three, two, one.

-Go.

-115. On to the next round.

-Blow this for four seconds.

-One, two, three, four.

-No.

-Yes!

-Hooray!

-Ya-aa-aa-ay!

-What have you won?

-Yay, what have you won?

-Two cinema tickets.

-I'm past that time of life now.

-I'm past that time of life now.

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-You said you'd use it.

-You've won 25.

-Yay! Jiffy's money.

-I could give it to Nige.

-You could give it to Nige.

-How much have you won?

-20.

-Thanks, Jiffy.

-Do you want to thank, Jiffy?

-Thank you, Jiffy,

-you're one in a million.

-Sharing his love

-all around the world.

-Sharing your love

-all around the world.

-You told us earlier

-you used to help your parents.

-You made things like this -

-candyfloss.

-He loves these challenges.

-He really enjoys these games. Stick

-it in there and roll it around.

-Right then, very simply, you have

-one minute to make the biggest one.

-Switch your machines on now.

-Start twiddling.

-Well done, Rebecca.

-# It's all coming back to me now #

-This isn't great TV.

-Don't break it.

-Spin it around.

-Mind your own business.

-Mind your own business.

-

-Well done, Rebecca.

-You never forget.

-It's like riding a bike.

-I can ride a bike!

-It was going so well.

-Five, four, three, two, one. Stop.

-Look at the state of that.

-It's Donald Trump.

-I've got the biggest one.

-John Merrick.

-You haven't said that before.

-The winner is Rebecca,

-hers is tidier.

-I have to win something

-on this programme.

-We've been asking

-our guests questions.

-It's time for you to ask them.

-What's the first question?

-Hello, I'm Andrew from Cardiff.

-Gareth, can you talk us through

-that try for the Baa-baas?

-We have the try somewhere.

-By now, the ball

-had been kicked to us by Williams.

-There's JPR.

-John Pullin to John Dawes.

-I'd never seen him

-make a break like this before.

-Tommy David to Derek Quinnell.

-By then,

-I was running up on the outside.

-I shouted to Derek, "Pass it."

-I have to tell you,

-if that try was scored now...

-..it would have been stopped

-for a high tackle on JPR...

-..and the TMO would have looked

-at Derek Quinnell's forward pass.

-Everyone thinks that pass

-was forward but it wasn't.

-It never went forward. I know that.

-Back then, the camera

-wasn't on the half-way line.

-It was about 20 yards further down.

-I worked with Bill McLaren

-many times there.

-The way the camera was pointing,

-it looked forward but it wasn't.

-What's next for you?

-You're working on Bonnie and Clyde.

-Is there anything else?

-Nothing in the long term.

-I'm doing Friday Night Is

-Music Night in three weeks' time.

-Mostly concerts and I hope a show

-or TV job will come up.

-What's coming up for you, Gareth?

-My birthday.

-A special birthday.

-Well, you're not 21 every year.

-I'm trying to keep it quiet.

-I'll be 70, as it happens.

-We have a few rounds of golf

-coming up.

-I'm glad you said that.

-We have a gift for you.

-Happy birthday, Gareth Edwards.

-Open it up.

-Now that you're 70, you have to

-take your driving test again.

-No.

-Who told you that?

-You have to.

-It doesn't bother me. Any time.

-I'm glad it's not in Welsh.

-"I'm Gareth Edwards,

-I don't have to do it."

-Let's talk about the game.

-The team's been chosen.

-Alun Wyn's in,

-no George North, no Halfpenny...

-..Warburton's on the bench.

-Liam Williams is full-back.

-The way Liam's been playing,

-he can get the line moving.

-He brings the ball

-back in to the centres.

-He's pinning his hopes on that...

-..but Halfpenny

-is the world's best kicker.

-Gatland hasn't been picking Liam

-at full-back. Neither has Howley.

-I don't understand that.

-I can understand picking Alun Wyn

-for his experience.

-He can bring Itoje on later

-in the game, and Warburton.

-Who do you think will win

-the First Test?

-It's going to be difficult.

-The All Blacks are the favourites.

-What we still don't know is if

-we can play well enough as a team...

-..to beat them.

-We know that the All Blacks

-can play as a team.

-They're difficult to beat.

-Who will win?

-I'll tell you - toss a coin.

-What do you think?

-I don't know. I think we'll win

-a test but maybe not the first.

-I think the Lions will win tomorrow.

-I think they will suffocate them.

-The forwards will smash them.

-I hope when the chances come,

-they can score some tries.

-You don't smash the All Blacks.

-They'll strangle them,

-they won't let them play.

-They need a good defence.

-Like they did against the Crusaders

-and the Maoris.

-If we can squeeze them with

-our defence, we'll do enough to win.

-I can't wait.

-Up early and off we go.

-Stop talking and say ta-ta!

-Stop talking and say ta-ta!

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-That's all for tonight.

-Thank you, Rebecca Trehearn

-and Sir Gareth Edwards.

-Good luck to the Lions in the

-First Test. We're back next week.

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