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in the breeze. Lee Westwood finds themselves 13 behind going into the

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weekend. A lot of work to be done. We are gearing up to live coverage

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this weekend starting at 2:15pm tomorrow on BBC One, and then the

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decisive final round on Sunday on BBC Two. What a final round we had

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last year between the world numbers 1 and 2. That will clearly not

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happen this year but regardless of the outcome, it will be compelling.

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 104 seconds

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In the meantime, from all of us, This programme contains

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 104 seconds

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Welcome to Later. Very nice, and Clap along. Sing along. Scream

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along, and nobody gets hurt. I # Spin your head up

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# We're gonna drink, # You should turn around,

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# Our god is a sinner, # The room's about to crumble

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# You gotta when you go # Like a tiger taking out

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# You should turn around, # Our god is a sinner,

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# The room's about to crumble # Spin your head up

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APPLAUSE Thank you, The Hives, Go Right

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Ahead. Also tonight a fantastic show - I am delighted to welcome

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back into the studio the wonderful Paloma Faith. From Portland, Oregon,

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the marvellous sound of Esperanza Spalding. From Nottingham for you

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lovely people - yes, Jake Bugg. From Baltimore, the lovely sound of

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Beach House. But now I shall be chatting with Mr Smith right over

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here. I'll be chatting with you in a moment, but for now, from Jamaica,

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the legend - yes, he's here - Jimmy # They say the world

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# They say the world # Looking at the world today

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# They say the world # They say the world

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# Ooh, I say the world # They say the world

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# They say the world # Ooh, I say the world

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# They say the world # They say the world

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# Ooh, I say the world # Have they lost their sanity

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# What about the love, A genius! The joy of having the

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great legend of the music industry - Jimmy Cliff, World Upside Down.

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He's got a marvellous, marvellous record called Rebirth out. I'll be

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chatting to him at the piano about lots of things later. We have a

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lovely group who have come with us from Baltimore especially to be

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with us this evening. Please # What comes after

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# The consequence # Canyon calling,

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# You can't keep hangin' on to all that's dead and gone

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# If you built yourself a myth

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# You'd know just what to give

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# Materialise, oh, let the ashes fly

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# Help me to name it

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# Help me to name it. #

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APPLAUSE

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APPLAUSE The

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The lovely

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The lovely sound

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The lovely sound of

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The lovely sound of Beach House. The song, Myth, from their album

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Blue. Now at the piano the man you saw maying a moment ago, one of the

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greatest ledge enced of Jamaican music, one of the greatest legends

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of music, Jimmy Cliff. You have this record out, Rebirth, what a

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fantastic record it is. It's your first record for about seven years.

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Yes, it is. What inspired you to make this record? Well, it's a time

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for me to make a new album, first of all, and I always like to

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highlight and reflect on what's going on in the world as well as my

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own life, what I'm doing, and that's the inspiration, just from

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living my life and intermingling with everyone It sounds to me like

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you're going back to your roots a little bit in this. Would I be

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right in thinking that? Yes, going back to my roots because this album

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is like the completion of a chapter that was incomplete, so I decided

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to go forward to the roots on this one. You have written some amazing

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songs, but you have also done some covers by people. Which are the

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people You have covered? Guns of Brixton by the Clash because of my

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connection with Joe Strummer. The last song he did was with me on my

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last album, so that's one of the covers I have done. He was great,

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wasn't he? Fantastic. Yes. And the thing is, you started very young,

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really, didn't you, in music? How did you get your start in

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music? Oh, I - you know, I have always known from a very early age

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singing in church and things like that that music is what I love -

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the arts. Actually, I like acting more, but music came easier to do,

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so I did that. I just pursued that, you know? When I left the country,

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I grew up in the country, then when I went to the city, Kingston, I

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just had some songs, and I found out who I could get them recorded

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with. Your first hit I think you had when you were 14, is that

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right? Yes. In 1960, so the same year as Jamaican independence. Can

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we have a little bit because it's just a sweet song. I used to dance

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to that song. Maybe your band will clap along in time because it is

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# Violets are blue # Believe me

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# I love you # Let's not be apart because you're

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the rose of my heart # And sweet rose

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# You are my Queen # You're my Ms Jamaica

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# My Ms Jamaica # You're my Ms Jamaica

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# I'm crowning you myself. # I know you may not have such a

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fabulous shape # You suit the rest of the world

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# And you do suit me # That is all I want to know

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# I need not know nothing more # You're my Ms Jamaica

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# My Ms Jamaica. # You're my Ms Jamaica

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# I'm crowning you myself # Because you're my Ms Jamaica

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# Ms Jamaica, Ms Jamaica APPLAUSE

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The wonderful Jimmy Cliff. APPLAUSE

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We'll be hearing more from Jimmy later on in the show. What a joy to

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have him here. And now let's welcome over in this corner here a

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sensational new beautiful sound - Esperanza Spalding.

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# Driving yourself # Traffic won't speed up

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# But it's the same old stuff # Somehow he feels it

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# Sends sweet salvation when he starts to play this song

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# Now you can't help singin' along

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# Even though you've never heard it, you keep singin' it wrong

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# This song will keep you grooving, the traffic moving

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# Play to lift your spirit

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# So glad you're here and the words are speaking to you

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# As if they knew you

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# Ooh, this song's the one

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# Even though you never heard it, you keep singin' it wrong

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# Waiting for some magic to come and make you feel better

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# Enter that song, now that's how we know the power of song can save

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# That's still how we know the power of song can save

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# Well, it can surely save the day and keep you grooving

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# The traffic moving, playing to lift your spirits

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# The world is speaking to you

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# This song's the one

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# La loo la loo la-la loo la

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# La loo la

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# Smiling and driving, can't help

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# Grooving while you're listening

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# Your skin starts bristling here comes the part you know

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# And you can't help singing along even though you've never heard it

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# You keep singing it wrong

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# This song will keep you grooving

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# The traffic moving, playing to lift your spirits

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# The world is speaking to you as if they knew you

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# Ooh, this song's the one

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# The traffic moving, playing to lift your spirits

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# And the world is speaking to you

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# Ooh, this song's the one

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# Sing it loud with love, with love in your heart

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# Because you like to because you need to

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# Now if you want to

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# Sing it loud with love

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# With love in your heart

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# Because you like to

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# Sing it loud with love

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# With love in your heart

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The

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The inspirational

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The inspirational sound

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The inspirational sound of Esperanza Spalding and Radio Song,

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a marvellous band from her album. Now, he first appeared on the Music

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Stage at Glastonbury last summer, # So I can cry your name

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# Run so far from me # Call upon the ones

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# And please just come on # From the strings

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# If you lead a lonely, lonely life, # And if you've been constantly

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# I'm on the phone, the telephone, # If you got an all-consuming need,

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# And if you got heart or lung disease, you got to be aware

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# Cos you got bills to pay

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# God knows you got bills to pay

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# I'm on the phone, the telephone, dial happiness today

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# You wanna live a life well, you gotta be aware

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# I got a thousand answers, one's gotta be right

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# Give me a thousand chances and I'll get it right

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# And it does it up with all the lies, you got to be aware

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# I'll give you all the whens and whys

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# You got to be aware cos you got nothing to say

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# God knows you got nothing to say

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# I'm on the phone, the telephone, dial happiness today

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# You wanna live a life well, you gotta be aware

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# I got a thousand answers, one's gotta be right

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# Give me a thousand chances and I'll get it right

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# I got a thousand answers, one's gotta be right

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# Give me a thousand chances and I'll get it right

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# I got a thousand answers, one's gotta be right

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# I got a million answers,

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# I got a gazillion answers, one's gotta be right. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Thank

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Thank you

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Thank you very

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Thank you, The Hives, 1,000 Answers - marvellous to have them back. One

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person I am going to pass I have to say hello to because she always

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dresses beautifully, absolutely impeccably, Paloma Faith. Wonderful

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to have you here. You sing beautifully. Where did this

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marvellous dress come from? It's a designer called Inbar Spectre who

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sculpts beautiful things. It is beautiful. It fits beautifully into

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the neck of the piano as if it were a glove. Here is your record -

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you're in another fantastic frock. I have to ask, is that your parrot?

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No, but I wish it was. It was really well trained. It's a real

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parrot? It's a real parrot, and it just flew back and forth all day

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long without getting angry. How did you know it wasn't angry? It just

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seemed well behaved. When you have experience -- I have experience

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with birds from the magic day, and they always seemed to fly off when

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they got bored, but this was a very focused parrot.

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LAUGHTER Do you have any pet yourself?

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don't. I don't have the attention span to look after them. What would

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you have - if you did have a few moments to look after a pet, what

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would you have? A tiger. We will get you one! You're going to be

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playing a marvellous song in a moment, which we shall look forward

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to hearing that - Paloma Faith. Marvellous to see you. Now, you're

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going to be hearing her in just a moment, but now, let's hear the one

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# You can get it # But you must try,

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# But you must try, # Win or lose,

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# You can get it if you really want # But you must try,

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# But you must try # You can get it if you really want

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# Cos there's no-one else # Let's see one another

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# But know that you're flying home to me

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# I was born

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# Thinking it would all be dreamy

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# But I know that I wouldn't be happy that way

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# You wear me out with frustration and heartache and anger

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# But we wait for the wave just to wash it away

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just

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# Sit

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# Next to me

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Shhhh

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# Just be

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# Let's let go together

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# Let us unfold one another

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# And watch all the little things

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# That once drew me to you

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# Eventually get on my nerves

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# I wear you out with frustration and heartache and anger

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# But we wait for the wave just to wash it away

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just

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# Sit

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# Next to me

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Shhhhh

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# Just be

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# Oooh

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# When you're sick of the every day

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# Oooh

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# When you're tired of my voice

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# When you tell me you'll walk out that door

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# That's when I know

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# That you'll stay

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# Oooh

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just sit

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# Next to me

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just be

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just sit

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# Next to me

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# Oooh

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Just be

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# Don't

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# Say

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# Nothin'

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# Shhhhh. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The

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The wonderful

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The wonderful Paloma

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The wonderful Paloma Faith. Just Be from her superb album Call to Grace.

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Before that we enjoyed Jimmy Cliff. APPLAUSE

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I'm feeling good tonight. Are you feeling good tonight? Me too.

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Feeling good over there? APPLAUSE

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Me too. We have some lovely artists in this room, so now let's enjoy

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# When you couldn't see # Like no other

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# Like no other # Like no other

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# If there's a little bit # If there's a beating

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Very nice manoeuvring from Jake Bugg. Jake Bugg and Trouble Town.

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Before that we enjoyed Beach House, done beautifully there. A lovely

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room full of people here - beautifully dressed as well. Can I

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just point this out - it is television - beautifully dressed

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people in this room, very nice to see. And now, next, this is the

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last in our current series, but on to the next few weeks at the same

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time are some incredible films all about punk music, which was, of

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course, invented here in Britain and London and everything. These

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are amazing films, and one of the people they feature rather allot is

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this man here, TV Smith. Of course, we - I remember, of

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course, you in the adverts - this great punk band you were a part of.

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What was your first introduction of the world of punk? Well, we moved

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to London in '76 and were one of the first bands to play at the

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Roxie. By the beginning of '77 it was all kicking off. We played that

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club, and within the first week we were at 20, 30 bands. How many

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people played... We supported. was one of them. It was great,

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really good. I remember it well. What would you say, maybe a hundred

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people I would have thought. Yeah. I would think you were be pushed to

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get 70, a hundred people in there. But what do you think - what was it

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that created punk music? What were things like before there was punk I

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suppose? Well, it was a big music industry, and lots of bands were

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just satisfied with what they were doing. They weren't pushing against

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anything. The situation in the country was very bad, and the

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musicians were ignoring it. They were presenting the same old thing

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over and over again, and we needed something new, and loads of punk

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bands came in. They stormed in. They took over. They all did

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something they believed in - lots of new things happening, lots of

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excitement. Yes, and I should also - which you don't see so much

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anymore which is couldn't care less. We don't care what you think of us.

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This is what we do sort of thing, which is almost like a blues

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attitude. Definitely. There is definitely a tradition of it that

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musicians say we don't care about you. We're going to do what we want,

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and if that doesn't happen, things carry on the same way they ever do.

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Do you think in the punk time it was bait like in the medieval time

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or in the Renaissance - we look back and go, we're in the

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Renaissance. They didn't go, we're in the Renaissance now! But did

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they realise what was happening? don't think we thought about it.

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That's the thing in these great moments. You seize the opportunity

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and don't sit around thinking it's of historical significance. But we

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are! 35 years later, here we are. Now we've got a little bit of

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footage of you on Top Of The Pops, quite rare for a punk group. Punk

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groups weren't welcome on Top Of The Pops. Top Of The Pops was a

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traditional thing. They wanted nice, happy, clap-along bands, and the

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punk groups were popular enough to get in the chart, so they couldn't

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resist us. Guaranteed the stillly

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# Because people see the same # Looking through Gary Gilmoreos

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eyes # Looking through Gary Gilmore's

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eyes # Looking through Gary Gilmore's

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eyes # Gary don't need no eyes to see

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# Gary and his eyes have parted company #

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Marvellous. APPLAUSE

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So you - now you work solo a lot of time. You go out with just a guitar.

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That's right. Would you say it has that spirit of punk music about it?

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It's exactly the same spirit. It's all about rebelling and seeing what

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you mean and getting out there and looking people in the eyes and

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giving them what you believe is the truth. Yes, a little bit of

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"couldn't care less". I love that. You're in this film, Punk Britannia.

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It's interesting to see because of the haircuts and people don't have

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cars and - lovely. Thank you for joining us, TV Smith.

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Now, we've got a beautiful sound over here - what a beautiful band

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sitting in a giant boom box. We # High enough to see who you are,

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# Now maybe no-one else # Think of all the strength

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# From the blood # They'll be folks hell-bent

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# 'Cause not necessarily # Think of all the strength

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# From the blood you carry within you

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# Ancient men, powerful men

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# Builders of civilization

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# Think of all the strength you have in you

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# Powerful, powerful men

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# Builders of civilization

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# Hold your head as high as you can

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High enough to see who you are, little man

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# Life sometimes is cold and cruel

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# Baby no-one else will tell you

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# So remember that you are black gold

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# Black gold

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# You are Black Gold

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# There'll be folks hell-bent on putting you down

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# Think of all the strength you have in you

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# From the blood you carry within you

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# Builders of civilization

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# Think of all the strength you have in you

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# Powerful, powerful men

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# Builders of civilization

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# Hold your head as high as you can

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# High enough to see who you are, little man

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# Life sometimes is cold and cruel

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# Baby, no-one else will tell you

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# So remember that you are black gold

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# Black gold

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# You are black gold

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# You are black gold

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# You are black gold

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# High enough to see who you are, # So remember that you are

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# They don't do # But I can't hear you

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# I ain't here to # But my head is stuck in the

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# That they got drugs # Oh I ain't here

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# But my head is stuck Thank you, The Hives, Wait a Minute.

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Silence in the room, please. I need silence in the room. Sadly, two

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great legends of music have been lost this week, Donna Summer and

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robin Gibb. On Tuesday's film we saw a short film of Robin Gibb. Now

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we're going to take a moment to remember the wonderful, lovely

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so I love this song particularly. # When I find myself in times of

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trouble # Mother Mary comes to me

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# Speaking words of wisdom # Let it be

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# And in my hour of darkness shot she is standing right in front of

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# Smiling to forever # Let it be

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# There will be an answer # Let it be

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# There will be an answer Oh! Thank you.

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Wonderful. The wonderful Donna Summer. So you can see more of all

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of that on our website and more things on our website, of course.

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Now I think we need to thank all of our guests. Thank you for joining

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us, Paloma Faith. Thank you, The Hives. Thank you, Esperanza

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Spalding. APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Jake Bugg. APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Beach House. APPLAUSE

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Thank you, TV Smith. You can see that whole lovely punk series on

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BBC Four. This is the last of our series - the last of the current

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series. We'll be back at the end of the year. You can see lot more on

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our website if you like. I'll also be back in a few weeks with a

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programme especially about the songs of old London, but now we

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finish off with the amazing person Now, this one is one more. I'm

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going to take the first part, and # I've got one more

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