Episode 1 Later... with Jools Holland

APPLAUSE Greetings, welcome to a brand-new

series. We can begin with Laura Mvula.

# Nobody ever told her she was beauty

# One day she realized she was already free

# The color in her eyes was fire rising

# She found the light inside a new horizon

# Oh my my, oh my, she flies Oh my my, oh my, she flies

# She battled trials and every kind of tribulation

# She reveled in adventure and imagination

# She never listened to no hater liar

# Breaking boundaries and chasing fire

# Oh my my, oh my, she flies Oh my my, oh my, she flies

# Cause they don't know you, where you come from

# oh my, she flies (she flies)

Laura Mvula, with the song Phenomenal Woman. We have and

amazing songwriter, the legend, from New York, Mr Paul Simon. We have a

wonderful band in the form of Lake Street Dive. We have more from Laura

in a moment. From east London, we are privileged to be joined by Kano.

Big squeeze it sound of a man from Alabama, Jason Isbell -- the Higgs

quiz it sound. -- the wonderful sound. And now we welcome The

Corals. # She's got my name

she's got my number # And she moves

in and out of time #. APPLAUSE

That is The Corals, with Miss Fortune, from their album Distance

Inbetween. Now, the 400 unit, we welcome Jason Isbell.

# This is how you make yourself vanish into nothing

# And this is how you make yourself worthy of the love that she

# Gave to you back when you didn't own a beautiful thing

# This is how you make yourself call your mother

# And this is how you make yourself closer to your brother

# And remember him back when he was small enough to help you sing

# You thought God was an architect, now you know

# He's something like a pipe bomb ready to blow

# And everything you built that's all for show goes up in flames

# This is how you see yourself floating on the ceiling

# And this is how you help her when her heart stops beating

# What happened to the part of you that noticed every changing wind

# This is how you talk to her when no one else is listening

# And this is how you help her when the muse goes missing

# You vanish so she can go drowning in a dream again

# You thought God was an architect, now you know

# He's something like a pipe bomb ready to blow

# And everything you built that's all for show goes up in flames

# You thought God was an architect, now you know

# He's sitting in a black car ready to go

# You made some new friends after the show

# But you'll forget their names

APPLAUSE Thank you, Jason Isbell. We are

truly delighted to have one of the great songwriters of all time, one

of the great musicians of all time, Mr Paul Simon. APPLAUSE

Welcome to the show. Great to see you. Great to be here. You have a

superbly record out, you are doing a sold-out tour of America, you love

working? I'm wondering about that, I think so. You still love writing?

Yes, I do. I did when I started that. What was the starting place?

Four years ago. Maybe after I did your show last. That was more than

that. Was it? Yes. You lose your memory. It is a great record, great

songs, what kind of things inspire you, are they different to what used

to inspire you? Inspiration has virtually nothing to do with it. I

seem to periodically have ideas and since I've been doing this since the

age of 12, 13, Mike rated impulses -- might creative impulses go

towards songs and record making, this is as regular as the seasons

turn, and I don't need anything to inspire me. A cycle of work. Yes, it

just comes. An idea. First I have no ideas and I think I'm done and

finished, I've got no ideas, and that is the end of that. And then I

get a bit depressed about it. And then some cord, coalitions with

another, and I think, oh! Here we go, and then I'm off. It starts with

the chords rather than the words? Always with the music, it could be

the rhythm, but always music before the words. Interesting. You said

earlier your father was a musician and he was an influence on you. My

father was a bass player. Yes, it taught me, you got me my first

guitar, and he had a big effect on how I thought about music. He was a

very interesting guy. What I learned about music and had to be a band

leader, I learned from him. The other thing you said was great,

which applies to many people. You said you learned even from... You

said even a mediocre musician has to have so much knowledge. Yes, just to

be an average musician, you have to learn so much, you know, most people

don't think of it that way. In a moment you will be playing

Wristband, that is a metaphor for many things, but the story starts

with somebody not getting in somewhere because they have not got

their wristband. Or bare pass. Has that happened to you? No. LAUGHTER

What happened, Wristband occurred to me as a title, and then I thought, I

don't know if it is going to be a good title or not, and then I was

having dinner with a friend of mine, Paul Muldoon, and I said I don't

know, I have this song I don't know whether I should use it or not, it

is Wristband, and he said that there was a lot of opportunity for it, and

then I had to make up a story for it, what with that title implied,

and that is how these songs all go, it is just me following whatever my

thought is, whatever the ending is going to be. Yes, because the

wristband can be much more than just getting into the gig. They think it

is great. He doesn't think it! It is a pleasure having you, and we look

forward to hearing that soon. Mr Paul Simon!

APPLAUSE Now, let's go and listen to this

superb quartet, Lake Street Dive. APPLAUSE

# I got a parrot of hair on my shoulder

# It's apparent it's there, and it's bolder

# Like I show you my cards, I'm no folder

# Yes I'm a soldier Against everything square and unsightly

# Yes I know I look good, so don't fight me

# All I need is a clip or a scrunchie And then I'm ready

# Because I rock a side pony Baby I'm just living my life

# Because I rock a side pony I rock a side pony

# I rock a side pony Who doesn't love a side pony?

# Baby I'm just living my life Because I rock a side pony

# I rock a side pony I rock a side pony

# Since I met you, you've been in my stable

# And I see you whenever I'm able Though we're

# keeping it under the table It ain't a fable

# Why can't we hide it away in your derby

# We're having fun and we're keeping it flirty

# Everybody might say that it's dirty But don't you worry

# Because I rock a side pony Baby I'm just living my life

# Because I rock a side pony I rock a side pony

# I rock a side pony Who doesn't love a side pony?

# Baby I'm just living my life Because I rock a side pony

# I rock a side pony I rock a side pony #.

# La la Lala Lala # La la la la la

# La la la # Because I rock a side pony

Baby I'm just living my life # Because I rock a side

pony I rock a side pony # Baby I'm just living my life

Because I rock a side pony # I rock a side pony

I rock a side pony APPLAUSE

CHEERING Thank you. Lake Street Dive. From

their album Side Pony. Now a song from a recent top ten album by the

man who joins us now, the artist is Kano.

# My sound's the realest My sound's the real deal

# Hold tight the ends, East Ham, Plaistow, Stratford

# Hold tight the ends that city Got the whole

# ends and Richard with me Man like Goose and my brother Sticky

# Ashmond just got the Richard Mille Man can't call me no pickaninny

# Big magnum cost a pretty penny Couple LPs and a couple Diddys

# Couple Liv Popes and a couple Iggys All-white dance get shutdown

# Ragga just touch down Gyal come with you, they're with us now

# Boogie got jungle on lock now I don't cut shapes

# If it ain't Vybez, I ain't messing with it

# Rudeboys don't response for no dissing

# Catch up inna big is a man's schism Man have got

# Mek a boy run like he stole something

# Run up on me, that's a madness Rum-pu-pu-pum-pum

# Hold tight the mandem on lockdown God bless

# Wifey was real, she did hold out Dozen roses up her nose now

# Shut down dance wherever we go And we keep a big

# ting for those haters And it goes po-po-po-po-po-po

# My sound's the realest, we know Shut down dance wherever we go

# And we keep a big ting for those haters

# And it goes po-po-po-po-po-po Call me from rice, it was real then

# Please buss a shot for your real friend

# Man like Fab and my brother Smithy Got the whole ends

# Man just might fly up Manny Link up the mandem up Manny

# Got a couple bruddas up country Hold tight

# Shut down dance wherever we go And we keep a big

# ting for those haters And it goes po-po-po-po-po-po

# My sound's the realest, we know Shut down dance wherever we go

# And we keep a big ting for those pagans

# And it goes (po-po-po-po-po-po) Dem boy some haters

# Hating for real Those boys some haters

# So we keep a big ting for those pagans

# And it goes (everybody dead now) We either whine gyal or we stan' up

# But badman don't MC Hammer Made in the manor

# where the guns dem clap up Don't need no Santa Fe boy get wrap up

# Must big up Marlene and Big Pat up RIP Auntie Vicky, true champion

# Down by the River Thames, Mum played and she played Daddy

# They scream no black role models on these streets

# Tryna push a roller out on these streets

# Tryna get a Rover out on these deets Paid my dues,

# This the mother thanks I get from this scene

# Ten years deep, a thousand 16s And man a headline but didn't receive

# Let me bloodclart live, spit my bloodclart

# I'm a forefather, that's my bloodclart kids

# Tell a hater it is what it bloodclart is

# Then tell a real sound man to bring back my ting

# Shut down dance wherever we go And we keep the big

# sitting for those haters And it goes po-po-po-po-po-po

# My sound's the realest, we know Shut down dance wherever we go

# And we keep a big ting for those haters

# And it goes po-po-po-po-po-po My sound's the realest

# My sound's the real My end's the realest

# 86, next door, Melrose's son # I stepped outside

the backstage door to breathe # check my mail box see

if I can read the screen # Then I heard a click the stage

door lock # I knew just what

that meant # I'm gone have to walk around

the block if I want to get in a... # Wristband, my man,

you got to have a wristband # if you don't have a

wristband, my man, you don't get # And if you don't have

a wristband, my man, # I can't explain it,

I don't know why # my heart beats like

a fist # When I meet some

dude with an attitude # Saying, how you can't

do that or this # And the guy was large,

a well-dressed six foot eight # And he's acting like

St Peter standing guard # Wristband, my man,

you got to have a wristband # if you don't have a

wristband, my man, you don't get # And I said wristband?

I don't need a wristband # My band is on the

floor # The riot

started slowly with the # Then they spread into the

heartland towns # Kids that can't afford the cool

brand whose anger is a short-hand # Then you can't get

# No you can't get through the door Say you can't

The wonderful Paul Simon! APPLAUSE

Wristband. From his incredible new album. Speaking of incredible new

albums, lest well -- let's welcome the wonderful Laura Mvula.

APPLAUSE # I feel lost and found

# The same downtown # Made my bed

# I've been losing my mind # Played with a noose around my neck

# You flew by to save me # Trying to find the reasons why you

found me # I've found you

# I've been waiting for you # I've been praying for someone like

you # Tried to build my house

# On a concrete ground, stone turned into sand

# I was running deeper and a land # And I was down...

# Take my friendliness # I will hold your hand

# We can banish together # I've been waiting for you

# I've been lost without you # I've been praying for someone like

you # I've been waiting for you

# I've been lost without you # I've been praying for someone like

you # I've been waiting for you

# I've been lost without you # I've been praying for someone like

you # I've been waiting for you

# I've been lost without you # I've been praying for someone like

you # Waiting for you, baby

# No no no no #. APPLAUSE

The extraordinary Laura Mvula. That was the song, Kiss My Feet, from her

album, The Dreaming Room. The title of the next song we are going to

hear, it is interesting, maybe you are like me, are you waiting or are

you dreaming? You can decide yourselves, we have The Corals.

# Your spirit flies around me like a butterflies

# Shifting through the sleepless nights

# Turning all the pages as I've been wasting lights

# Stepping through the mirror into the past

# Falling through descend and time

# Suspended in the moment of a naked eye

# Ridden in the symbols hidden in plain sight

# Who are you if not the one I met

# One July night before the town went wet

# You were reading The Bell Jar

# Where are you if you're not on your own?

# Where's the Jesus that you swore you'd find

# Are you living the life you chose

# Are you living the life that chose you

# Are you taking a grown up dose

# Do you live with a man who knows you

# Lost three fingers to a faulty tool

# Settled out of court I'm no one's fool

# There's plenty left to make a getaway

# I've spent enough nights in the bluegrass state

# We could go somewhere where people stay up late

# Are you living the life you chose

# Are you living the life that chose you

# Are you taking a grown up dose

# Do you live with a man who knows you

# Here I am inviting you to throw your life away

# Victim of nostalgia maybe Tanqueray

# Just tonight I realized that I am still in your backseat

# Nothing I've had since has meant a thing to me

# Are you living the life you chose

# Are you living the life that chose you

# Are you taking a grown up dose

# Do you live with a man who knows you

Thank you, Jason Isbell. Great song. Before that we enjoyed The Coral, we

enjoyed that. Now to the devastatingly superb Laura Mvula.

Nice to see you. Great to have you here, always a pleasure, you have

been a great six S since three years ago, you record first came at --

great success. Awards, nominations. People love the record, is the

success as you expected it? It is mad, but I love it. Since I was a

kid, nothing has changed, in a way, I've always made music, that is the

familiar thing, my siblings are in my band, the family is on the road.

I think about what my mum says, as far she is concerned, as long as you

are happy and having fun, it is all good. I'm enjoying it. I love making

music and I would not do anything else. Lovely. I had a family in my

band. Paul says his father had been a musician. Is music part of the

family? Yes, we grew up making music together, me being the eldest,

bossing everybody about, being the leader of the band, nothing has

changed. Apart I have to pay them money. Exactly. Lucky them. Your new

album is called app, it is a great album, I've really enjoyed it. -- is

called The Dreaming Room. Do you have a chamber for dreaming in? I

wish I did. It is metaphorical. The dreaming room was the place where I

could be the most free, the music should sound totally inhibited, it

is me doing what I wanted to do. I have guitars and this record, I

don't know anything about guitars. Some famous guitarists? John

Scofield, Nile Rodgers. This was incredible. It was a privilege to

have them contribute to the sound. You also have a keyboard with all

white keys, such a great idea. Yoko Ono had a chess set with all white

pieces. It was the same thing. Maybe you could have a black keyboard? I

keep getting make up on the white one, it is not a good luck. -- a

good look. A smudge. The other thing about your music, there's an element

of classical music, is that something you up with? Yes,

definitely. Because I grew up playing classical music, one of my

earliest memories is playing in a string orchestra, that is where I

played violin, when I thought I'd arrived and then the dream of

writing film music, which is the ultimate goal. To write music for

picture. What film, if you could write for any film? Any film that

has been made. Whatever it is, it would be big. James Bond, that is a

dream. To write the music and sing the song? Everything. To orchestrate

and do everything. Why not? Why not? If anybody could do it, you could

cover you would do it beautifully. It is wonderful to see you. Thank

you, Laura Mvula. APPLAUSE And now we enjoyed a superb Lake

Street Dive. # And it ain't even

crossed your mind # Well, you'd best

pretend you're blind # But all the reasons

I left you behind # I don't care about

what you've got to say # I don't care about you and I'd

say it to your face # It's been a while,

I hear you talkin' # I still feel bad enough

about when I didn't listen # In the end it doesn't matter

who was wrong or who was right # Cos all the reasons

I left you behind # I don't care about

what you've got to say # I don't care about

what you've got to say # I don't care about

what you've got to say # I don't care about

what you've got to say Lake Street Dive. From their album

Side Pony. Now we welcome into the middle of the floor the man who was

over there with his latest and greatest newest work, now we hear

one of his great songs from the past. Mr Paul Simon!

APPLAUSE # Left its seeds

while I was sleeping # And the vision that was planted

in my brain, still remains # I turned my collar

to the cold and damp # When my eyes were stabbed

by the flash of a neon light # People writing songs that voices

never shared, and no one dared # Hear my words

and I might teach you # Take my arms then

I might reach you # But my words, like silent

raindrops fell, and echoed # Said the words of

the prophets are written # On the subway walls

and tenement halls # And whispered in

the sounds of silence # That means

I'm a direct rudeboy # Some MCs come with

the wickedest talk # Mad, reload ting Pop, pop, pop,

that's a reload ting # And when I say,

"It's Kano in the house" # Everybody knows that's a reload

# If you've been shotting in the manor from way back when

# I don't wanna hear about crunch and food and tings

# On-sight, thought he was onside, init

# That postcode, that's offside, init

# Dem man do obeah, us man are kosher

# Where man don't care 'bout fathers Man just care 'bout figures

# Man don't care 'bout yards, Man just care 'bout Bimmers

# We don't do none of that bare-face fibbing

# The realest ish on your airwaves, init

# Cook down mutton then pass through the gutter

# Link Jus D red cups out the cupboard

# In the jungle, I move with original nuttahs

# And the same madman fly out for the summer

# Yeah, G goes in Bag three-pointer, free throw ting

# Brothers looking at me on a keyhole ting

# I'm a gangster and a gentlemen, G hosting

# I'm a skinny brother, brother, me so slim

# Put the jimmy on, that's when the D goes in

# Man are getting money, type the keycodes in

# So that, brothers in the act, we back 'em up

# Knife game-giving if it's backs, I axe them up

# And I'm with the bats, I patched it up

# Sitting in the trap with crack to cut

# I'm sitting in the caff and cracked a cup

# I'm silly with the MAC, man mashed 'em up

# I hit him with the blap, then backed the truck

# Gully, we so slim K, Hollow, we both pimps

# Can't look inside the window, brother, peep those tints

# Better tell the waiter, better leave those drinks

# Add a little bass, you better leave those synths

# I'm silly with the clip, I'm gonna teach those chimps

# Man a put it on him when we see those wimps

# I'm finished with the little brother, he's so rinsed

# I let it bap, bap, bap, ping ping And then leave no prints

# I said that, that, that, that's me And yes, he's so skint

# I'm in the matte black 350 With Clarke, let beef go mince

# If you don't look after your own yout, boy

# You're not a direct rudeboy And you're in DSTRKT

# Bond Street, just bought brand new Gooch, bwoy

# Then sent me a direct, rudeboy 16 bars in effect

# Might just upset a man's lyrics Take this pen to your neck

# And just Joe Pesci man with it Cash rules everything around me

# But I still might Mega Man with it

# Yeah, I said it, yeah, yeah, I said it

# Cheques, we get it, cash and collect it

# That likkle pellet, that nah gon' mek it

# Rest his head in that man's spaghetti

# Yout dem are menace, nuttin' like Dennis

# Man got straps, ain't even got credit

# Kids push prams to Westfield to lick it

# And run from pigs, don't even watch Peppa

# Real go-getter, geezers know better

# But geezers need excitement, says Skinner

# Don't resort to violence, no, never

# Man just start with violence, go figure

# Eat man's food before man eat dinner Buss that booze,

# Left that Giggsy gat for my brother

# Can't tell me nuttin' Cook down mutton then

# Link Jus D red cups out the cupboard

# In the jungle, I move with original nuttahs

# And the same madman fly out for the summer

APPLAUSE Kano, joined by Giggs. Before that,

we enjoyed Paul Simon. And now, we welcome back the sensational Laura

Mvula. CHEERING

# Keep your head up # Keep your head up

# Carreon # Keep your head up

# Carry on # Round the mountain

all God's children run # Round the mountain

all God's children # Round the mountain

all God's children # Round the mountain

all God's children run Thank you, Laura Mvula, with

Overcome. We will be back on Tuesday night. We will have Mumford and Sons

and much much more. Can we have a bit of base. We can thank our

guests, Laura Mvula. Thank you, Lake Street Dive. Thank you the legendary

Mr Paul Simon. Thank you The Coral. Thank you, Jason Isbell. And thank

you, Laura Mvula. And thank you for being you -- and thank you, Kano.