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-Hello and a warm welcome to you. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
-It's wonderful to be back on S4C... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
-..with a brand-new series -that runs for the next eight weeks. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
-I'll be joined by many friends... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
-..who joined me on my series' -from the 1980s and 1990s. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
-We'll see how they have changed -in that time. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
-I'll also introduce you to -a new talent in every programme... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
-..who could be a star of the future. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
-My first guests are two of -the members of the group, Cwlwm... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
-..Shan Cothi and Eleri Twynog -and I think I can hear them now. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
-Yoo-hoo? Margaret? | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
-Hello, how are you? -It's been such a long time. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
-Hello, Eleri. How are you? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
-Come into my grand house. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
-Come into my grand house. - -We will with pleasure. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
-It's lovely. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
-There were five members in the band, -Cwlwm, but who were the other three? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:19 | |
-There was Delyth Medi... | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
-..who now teaches music -at Ysgol Glantaf in Cardiff. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
-We had Elin Jones who is now -an Assembly Member for Plaid Cymru. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
-Hedydd now teaches Welsh -in Lampeter Secondary School. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
-You've all done well -but how did it all start? | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
-It seemed natural. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
-We had an excellent teacher at -school called Delyth Hopkin Evans. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
-Four of us were studying A level -Music and Elin was our friend. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
-There wasn't a lot of groups -at that time, but when was this? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
-Was it 1984? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-Was it 1984? - -We left school in 1984. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-We were in the Sixth Form together -and were always singing in lessons. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
-Andrew O'Neill also came -to teach Scripture in the school. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
-Do you remember that the -National Eisteddfod was in Lampeter? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
-Before that, he worked on -Dechrau Canu, Dechrau Canmol. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
-Dechrau Canu, Dechrau Canmol was -in Lampeter and he asked us to sing. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:33 | |
-That's where it started. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
-That's where it started. - -It was Cwlwm's first performance. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-I had a hideous black and white -dress. It was like a draughts board. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
-Do you remember appearing -on my series in the 1990s? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
-Your dress wasn't like a draughts -board but let's take a look. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
-# If I take and you take and -nobody is willing to give anything | 0:02:58 | 0:03:05 | |
-# If everyone follows the same path -and nobody is willing to turn back | 0:03:05 | 0:03:12 | |
-# It would all be an empty dream | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-# And the crossed words are in vain | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-# A pearl has its protection -when it's thrown into the sea | 0:03:20 | 0:03:27 | |
-# Turn your head, walk away | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-# What is one voice -amidst a hundred? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
-# You're not the only one to blame | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
-# When everybody else's eyes -are still closed | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
-# But the day will come -when it's all too much | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
-# When you're no longer willing | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-# At that time, who knows? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
-# It could be too late # | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-That was beautiful. You sounded -amazing and looked so innocent! | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
-That's changed. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
-That's changed. - -We're still innocent! | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
-I'm glad you thought -we sounded alright. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
-It's better if we close our eyes! | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-The harmony was beautiful. -Who wrote that song? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
-It's odd -because I never write anything. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-Did you write that? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-Did you write that? - -I think so. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-Elin composed the lyrics -and I potched around with a melody. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-I haven't composed anything -since then! | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-You could have a new career! | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-You could have a new career! - -Yes, you should start. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-Do you still perform as Cwlwm? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-We hadn't for a long time but we did -a small concert over Christmas. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
-Yes, it was a concert at the church -in Lampeter. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-Every Christmas, we used to sing -in the church for Christian Aid. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
-This year marked 25 years -and we were invited to perform. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
-How did it go? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
-How did it go? - -It went surprisingly well. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
-We met four hours before the concert -at Hedydd's house in Lampeter... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-..to choose our songs. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-It was a carol service -so we chose the classics... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
-..and it all came back to us. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-We remembered the breathing and -phrasing. We did it instinctively. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
-It was a wonderful experience -to sing together again. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
-The memories flooded back. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
-The memories flooded back. - -It was wonderful. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
-I remember first singing with you -in the studio. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-You sang that song and did -backing vocals on a track with me. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-We were experts at that! | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-We were experts at that! - -The song was called Ti a Fi. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-I remember your vocals because the -sopranos had some very high notes. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-I turned to see you and Delyth Medi. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-I turned to see you and Delyth Medi. - -We were the top sopranos. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-It sounded amazing and -the song was recorded for an album. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
-Let's remind ourselves of that song. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
-# Here we are, the pair of us | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
-# Through the dark hours -of the night | 0:06:19 | 0:06:25 | |
-# When I met you | 0:06:25 | 0:06:31 | |
-# You and I became one | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
-# Every dawn and dusk | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
-# From day to day | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
-# You are my life | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
-# When I met you | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
-# You and I became one | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
-# You and I became one # | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
-Oh, I'd forgotten all about that -but it's all come back to me now. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-It's odd how a clip -can bring back so many memories. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-I loved the harmonies of your group -so you should sing again together. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
-It's difficult because -we all have different jobs... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
-..but there's a worry -that we won't be good enough. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
-Will our voices blend -or what if I start to wobble? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
-It's over if I start -singing like that! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-It's been wonderful -to have you with me. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
-I've got many fond memories because -I thought the world of Cwlwm. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-You're exceptionally busy -but do you still go riding, Shan? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
-Yes, Caio is still with me -and wants to be remembered to you. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-He's ready to take you for a spin -around Ogmore Beach. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-That's quite an honour. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-That's quite an honour. - -You'll have to help me. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
-I'll sit on the back. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
-I'll sit on the back. - -I'll get you a sidecar! | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-Thank you and send my best wishes -to the other three. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
-Earlier, I said that I'd introduce -you to a new talent each week. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
-Tonight, it's a young man -from Bridgend called Ifan Jenkin. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-He's a pianist and trumpeter but -he can tell you more about himself. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
-You're a pianist and trumpeter but -the piano is your main instrument. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:59 | |
-Yes, I compete more on the piano -but enjoy playing the trumpet... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
-..in local ensembles, -orchestras and jazz bands... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
-..but my first love is the piano. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
-You've been playing the piano -for many years. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Yes, twelve years. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
-It's played a big part in my life -and I'm grateful for it. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
-Do you compete a lot? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-I've competed in the Eisteddfod for -six years and made it to the stage. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
-I've won three times. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
-It's something to aim for every year -and it's nice to try again. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
-You're also a singer -and are a member of Only Boys Aloud. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
-Yes, I've been with Only Boys Aloud -for three years. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
-Our first concert -was at the Ebbw Vale Eisteddfod. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-Last year, you appeared -on Britain's Got Talent. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-It was an amazing experience -that I'll never forget. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
-I voted for you and was in tears -when you performed Calon Lan. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
-How did it feel to perform -that Welsh hymn there? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-It was odd at first and I remember -seeing Simon Cowell and the judges. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
-It was strange to be singing to them -in Welsh but it felt right. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
-I was very proud -to represent our country. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-They were amazed with your -performance and you were excellent. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
-# A pure heart # | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
-You've had some amazing experiences, -Ifan. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
-Would you like to turn professional? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-Would you like to turn professional? - -No, not with music. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
-I've enjoyed every second of it -and I'll keep music as a hobby... | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
-..but I'd like to study medicine -at university. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-Is that what you want to do? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
-Is that what you want to do? - -Yes, I hope so. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
-Good luck to you and what are -you going to perform for us? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
-An excerpt from the first movement -of Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
-Wonderful. I can't wait! | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
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-It was a pleasure to introduce you -to Ifan Jenkin earlier. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
-The same is true -of a twelve-year-old girl... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-..who joined me in the studio -with her father and mother. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
-That young girl was, and still is, -Tara Bethan. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
-It's lovely to see you again. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-Thanks for inviting me -to your palace. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
-Are you jealous? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-Are you jealous? - -Yes, I am! | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
-You were twelve -when I met you and your mother. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-We don't often see your mother -but she was a dancer. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-Mam was a dancer until she was 16 -but she's a very shy lady. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:44 | |
-It's how her relationship with Dad -worked well because he wasn't shy! | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
-She was always in the background, -wherever Dad or I was working. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
-She was there to run everything -but didn't want the limelight. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-She stood out of sight whilst you -and your father were on my sofa. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
-It was quite a blow -when you lost your father... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-..because he was a well-liked -public figure. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-I'm sure it helped to pay him -such an excellent tribute. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
-I was so glad to have had the -opportunity to make that programme. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:24 | |
-I don't think I could be any prouder -of a piece of work. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:31 | |
-That programme is also -something I can keep forever. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
-It has helped me to adapt -to a new life without Dad. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-It speeded up the grieving process -- it was like a crash course. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:49 | |
-It brought the happy memories -to the fore. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
-Yes, and there was so much -I didn't know too. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-I remember that he was so proud -of you and very sincere too. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
-I've got a clip to remind us -of that day, Tara. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
-How does it feel to have -such a talented daughter, Orig? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-It's good that she's taken -an interest in something... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
-..that's so different to my world. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-She didn't need any persuasion. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-No, she loves her training. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-No, she loves her training. - -Yes, I'm sure. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
-You were raised around an array of -people from singers to actors, Tara. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
-Yes, that's right. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
-Do you like the company of -those legends you grew up around? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
-The only thing I do remember... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
-..is Giant Haystacks, one of -the biggest wrestlers at the time... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
-..looked after me. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
-Dad has a few photographs -of him holding me. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-I look so small next to him. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
-I look so small next to him. - -I'm sure you do. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
-That was wonderful -and he had such sincerity. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-You looked great -in your Welsh costume. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-That's a matter of opinion, -Margaret! | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
-You wore it -because you were dancing for us. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-I remember you winning -disco dancing competitions. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
-Did your mother teach you? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
-Did your mother teach you? - -We did it together which sounds odd. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-However, I did have a system. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-I was eight when I first won. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-My system was that Mam and I -would rehearse every night. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
-It had an introduction... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-..a middle section of floor work -that had the required moves... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
-..and an ending. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
-I made up the rest of it on the day. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-Looking back, I can't believe -that Mam trusted me to do that... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
-..or that it was a good idea because -I could have had a mental block. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
-They call it improvisation! | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-Yes, but it was so short a time -I could have just learnt a dance! | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
-It made it more creative. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-Yes, and I get bored easily so doing -it differently kept me on my toes. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:18 | |
-It could be why you won. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-It could be why you won. - -Or why I lost the following year! | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-How did the folk dancing -competitions compare? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-I finished second at seven -consecutive Eisteddfods. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-It wasn't even -to the same person! | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-You did dance -with a famous folk group. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-You performed with -Dawnswyr Nantgarw Bach. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
-I loved watching all of you and -you look so graceful in the costume. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:52 | |
-Let's see it. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
-Awww! That was -one of my highlights. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Really? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
-Really? - -Yes, it's lovely. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
-We've all changed -over the years... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
-..but you've made an -incredible transformation. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-I'm glad you said that -after that clip. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-You've had a successful career -since that time. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
-Did you always know -that this was the career for you? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
-I've had a lot of ups and downs. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
-I think I had an ambition -at that time. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
-I don't any more -but I've learnt so much. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-I was raised in Wales and was always -in the television world... | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-..and I was spoilt by my parents -for starters... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
-..and by those -in the television industry. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-Then I did the reality show, I'd Do -Anything with Andrew Lloyd Webber. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
-What was he like? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
-Alright. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
-Alright. - -I won't ask any more. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
-He doesn't like women -with an opinion. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
-He liked young girls who said, "Yes, -Andrew," and I wasn't one of them! | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
-It was a shock for starters... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-..because I was one of 7,500 -which was whittled down to twelve... | 0:20:48 | 0:20:54 | |
-..and I didn't cope with it -very well. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-I didn't know how to react to -the other girls in the competition. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:04 | |
-At least you learnt something -from that Nancy programme. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
-Yes, and I'd do it again tomorrow -because I learnt so much. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
-I thought I was a strong person -but I wasn't! | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
-These programmes -ask you to act, sing and dance. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-We can now see your acting skills -because you're an actress. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-Yes, I had the call for Pobol y Cwm -and went through the auditions... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:34 | |
-..but the original contract -was for a month. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-I had another call asking me to -go back for a year to run the Deri. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-At the moment, I feel very happy. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
-I've stopped and am able to get -my teeth into something I enjoy. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:53 | |
-We love watching you. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
-Before you go, you said your mother -is in Tenerife. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-She's been in Tenerife -for almost two years. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-I was so worried when she went but -it's the best thing she's ever done. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
-She's started a new life because -she lost so much when Dad died. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
-She can look after herself, enjoy -the sun and I visit her often. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
-You've got a place -to go on holiday! | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
-Give her my regards. -Thank you too, Tara. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
-We close with another clip but -this is of you singing in 2005... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
-..when you gave a beautiful -rendition of Cwsg Osian. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
-Before we hear Tara, -thank you for joining me... | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-..and thanks to those -who took part tonight. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-Join me at the same place and time -next week. Until then, goodnight. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
-# Whilst there's woe and grief | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
-# Whilst the sword -is out of its sheath | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
-# Sleep on | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
-# The day will rid all your fears | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
-# Sleep on, sleep on | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-# Sleep on | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
-# Sleep Osian, you're free to sleep | 0:23:21 | 0:23:28 | |
-# Sleep so you're not sad | 0:23:28 | 0:23:35 | |
-# Sleep, with your secret dream | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
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