Pennod 6 ‹ Margaret: Ddoe a Heddiw

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-Hello and good evening to you.	0:00:08	0:00:10
-Thank you so much -for joining me once again.	0:00:10	0:00:13
-I'm delighted to be joined -by three talented people.	0:00:14	0:00:19
-One of them is a singer -from the 1970s.	0:00:19	0:00:23
-The other is a 14-year-old boy.	0:00:23	0:00:26
-First, I'd like to extend -a warm welcome to Nerys Richards.	0:00:26	0:00:31
-You're a very busy person, Nerys.	0:00:33	0:00:36
-It's been difficult to pin you down.	0:00:36	0:00:39
-Sorry, Margaret. I had to -change the date but I'm here now.	0:00:39	0:00:43
-You are very busy.	0:00:43	0:00:45
-Yes, I'm very lucky.	0:00:46	0:00:47
-Yes, I'm very lucky. - -You get all kinds of work.	0:00:47	0:00:48
-You play three instruments -but where did it all start?	0:00:49	0:00:54
-I play the harp, cello and piano.	0:00:54	0:00:58
-I had to choose two -so I opted for the cello and piano.	0:00:59	0:01:03
-I went to the Guildhall and studied -both the cello and piano.	0:01:03	0:01:09
-How did you cope with -all the practising as a child?	0:01:09	0:01:14
-It must be part of you.	0:01:14	0:01:16
-Neither Mam nor Dad -are musical people.	0:01:16	0:01:20
-Aren't they?	0:01:20	0:01:21
-They could be -but they never had the opportunity.	0:01:22	0:01:25
-Mami did her grade five -on the piano...	0:01:25	0:01:28
-..and Mam-gu played the organ -in chapel...	0:01:29	0:01:33
-..but Dad runs a bus company.	0:01:33	0:01:36
-However, they have always been -very supportive.	0:01:37	0:01:41
-I started cello lessons in primary -school with a peripatetic teacher...	0:01:41	0:01:47
-..and it went from there.	0:01:47	0:01:49
-They could see that I enjoyed it...	0:01:49	0:01:51
-..and they didn't have -to force me to practise.	0:01:52	0:01:55
-They helped me a lot -and took me to lessons after school.	0:01:55	0:02:00
-It's 20 years since you came -to my studio as a school girl.	0:02:01	0:02:06
-You were unsure of what to do -with the instruments.	0:02:07	0:02:10
-Take a look at this.	0:02:11	0:02:13
-When the time comes to concentrate -on one instrument...	0:02:14	0:02:18
-..which one will it be?	0:02:18	0:02:20
-I stopped having harp lessons -two years ago...	0:02:20	0:02:23
-..but I still play it a lot.	0:02:23	0:02:25
-However, my first instruments -are the cello and piano.	0:02:26	0:02:29
-I hope I never have to choose -as I want to study both at college.	0:02:30	0:02:35
-It was lovely to see you there.	0:02:36	0:02:38
-It was lovely to see you there. - -That was so funny.	0:02:38	0:02:40
-You looked very young there.	0:02:40	0:02:42
-Have you had to choose?	0:02:43	0:02:44
-I think I was in the Sixth Form -at that time...	0:02:45	0:02:49
-..so I was going to the Guildhall.	0:02:50	0:02:52
-I won a scholarship for the cello -and the piano...	0:02:53	0:02:57
-..so I didn't have to choose!	0:02:57	0:02:59
-You were able to study -both instruments.	0:02:59	0:03:02
-I studied both -for the first three years...	0:03:02	0:03:05
-..and did my final recital -on the cello...	0:03:05	0:03:08
-..and advanced chamber music -on the piano.	0:03:09	0:03:12
-I don't want to be a solo pianist -but to play in chamber groups.	0:03:12	0:03:17
-What's the difference between -being a soloist and accompanist?	0:03:18	0:03:23
-Are they different disciplines?	0:03:23	0:03:25
-Are they different disciplines? - -It's very lonely being a soloist.	0:03:25	0:03:28
-It meant spending five or six hours -a day practising...	0:03:28	0:03:33
-..on your own in a room.	0:03:33	0:03:35
-It wasn't for me.	0:03:35	0:03:37
-I enjoy working with people...	0:03:38	0:03:40
-..which is why I chose to be -an accompanist on the piano.	0:03:41	0:03:45
-I do a lot of accompanying.	0:03:45	0:03:47
-We've seen you -at the National Eisteddfod.	0:03:47	0:03:50
-I'm an official accompanist -for the National Eisteddfod.	0:03:51	0:03:55
-I've done it for three years -and enjoy it.	0:03:55	0:03:58
-Do you perform more on the cello -or the piano these days?	0:03:59	0:04:04
-After I left college, -most of my work was on the cello...	0:04:04	0:04:09
-..because there's more opportunities -for work.	0:04:09	0:04:13
-Are there fewer cellists -than pianists?	0:04:13	0:04:17
-No, because every orchestra -has eight to ten cellists.	0:04:17	0:04:23
-You also have string quartets.	0:04:23	0:04:26
-You also have string quartets. - -There's more opportunities.	0:04:26	0:04:28
-There's always a demand for cellists -as people do fall ill...	0:04:29	0:04:33
-..so it's just a case of working -with an orchestra.	0:04:34	0:04:37
-A lot of people want string quartets -to play at their wedding...	0:04:38	0:04:42
-..and I've done a lot -of film sessions.	0:04:42	0:04:46
-I've really enjoyed doing those.	0:04:46	0:04:48
-I played on the Prometheus -soundtrack at Abbey Road last year.	0:04:49	0:04:54
-You're also going to be working -with a singer.	0:04:55	0:04:58
-Yes, I'm performing -on the Josh Groban video on Sunday.	0:04:58	0:05:03
-My sister, Llinos is doing it too.	0:05:03	0:05:05
-You've also performed in musicals -on the West End.	0:05:06	0:05:09
-Yes, I've been very lucky.	0:05:09	0:05:12
-I got a job on Shrek The Musical -at the Theatre Royal.	0:05:12	0:05:16
-I was thrilled with it.	0:05:17	0:05:19
-You've got an amazing life.	0:05:19	0:05:21
-I'm so lucky -and I'm thoroughly enjoying myself.	0:05:21	0:05:25
-When I interviewed you at 18, you -were hoping to turn professional.	0:05:25	0:05:31
-Have you fulfilled your dream -and do you enjoy it?	0:05:32	0:05:35
-I had no idea what the future held -when I did that interview with you.	0:05:35	0:05:41
-I couldn't ask -for anything better.	0:05:42	0:05:45
-I'm doing everything -I ever wanted to do.	0:05:45	0:05:48
-I still play the piano...	0:05:48	0:05:50
-..and accompanied a friend -for a recital a fortnight ago.	0:05:50	0:05:55
-I still enjoy playing in orchestras -and I perform in the West End.	0:05:55	0:06:01
-It's so wonderful -to chat with you, Nerys.	0:06:01	0:06:06
-I'm glad it all turned out well -and that you enjoy it so much.	0:06:06	0:06:11
-Good luck to you -for the remainder of your career.	0:06:11	0:06:15
-Let's see your performance when -you were young and full of hope.	0:06:15	0:06:20
-# Memory # -Andrew Lloyd Webber	0:06:23	0:06:26
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-Tonight's new talent is a young man -who recently had his 14th birthday.	0:07:23	0:07:29
-A warm welcome -to Charlie Lovell-Jones.	0:07:29	0:07:32
-How are you, Charlie?	0:07:32	0:07:34
-How are you, Charlie? - -I'm fine, thank you.	0:07:34	0:07:35
-You play the violin and -belong to a very special orchestra.	0:07:36	0:07:40
-Yes, it's the National -Youth Orchestra of Great Britain.	0:07:40	0:07:45
-How did you join that orchestra?	0:07:46	0:07:48
-I had an interview last September -and another in October.	0:07:48	0:07:54
-The email confirming my place in -the orchestra arrived in November.	0:07:55	0:08:00
-You were a member of the National -Children's Orchestra prior to that.	0:08:00	0:08:06
-It was another fantastic orchestra -with so many opportunities.	0:08:06	0:08:10
-I know you've performed -with some legends.	0:08:11	0:08:14
-Yes, and one of the best -has to be Nicola Benedetti.	0:08:15	0:08:18
-She's wonderful -and I'm sure you're a huge fan.	0:08:19	0:08:23
-The opportunity to sit -within a foot of her...	0:08:23	0:08:28
-..for about six hours...	0:08:28	0:08:29
-..as we rehearsed to perform Bruch's -Scottish Fantasy was amazing.	0:08:30	0:08:35
-You also perform with a jazz band...	0:08:35	0:08:38
-..which is very different -to Shostakovich!	0:08:38	0:08:42
-Yes.	0:08:42	0:08:44
-The jazz band -is a great form of escapism...	0:08:44	0:08:48
-..from the weighty, -classical pieces.	0:08:48	0:08:52
-Shostakovich's work -can really get into your heart...	0:08:52	0:08:57
-..so it's nice to play -a bit of Red Band and Blues music.	0:08:57	0:09:01
-What are your hopes for the future, -Charlie?	0:09:02	0:09:06
-I hope to be -a professional violinist...	0:09:06	0:09:09
-..and the best violinist I can be.	0:09:09	0:09:11
-I love playing the violin.	0:09:12	0:09:14
-It isn't just work but something -that is very close to my heart.	0:09:14	0:09:20
-I love chamber music, orchestras -and working as a soloist.	0:09:20	0:09:27
-Would you prefer to be a soloist?	0:09:27	0:09:29
-Would you prefer to be a soloist? - -Yes, that's right.	0:09:29	0:09:31
-I'm sure you will be.	0:09:31	0:09:32
-I've heard you perform -and you're astounding.	0:09:33	0:09:36
-Thank you for joining me, Charlie.	0:09:36	0:09:39
-What are you performing for us?	0:09:39	0:09:42
-The Por Una Cabeza Tango by -John Williams from Scent Of A Woman.	0:09:42	0:09:47
-It's a real treat for you. -This is Charlie Lovell-Jones.	0:09:47	0:09:52
-# Por Una Cabeza Tango # -John Williams	0:09:53	0:09:57
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-Hello once again.	0:14:13	0:14:14
-I'm sure you were astounded by -the talent of Charlie Lovell-Jones.	0:14:15	0:14:20
-I haven't seen my next guest -in a very long time.	0:14:21	0:14:25
-It's a warm welcome -to Geraint Griffiths.	0:14:26	0:14:29
-You haven't been on television -in a while.	0:14:30	0:14:33
-It's disappointing for everyone.	0:14:33	0:14:34
-It's disappointing for everyone. - -Yes, it is.	0:14:34	0:14:36
-No, I haven't retired.	0:14:36	0:14:39
-We never retire -because retirement doesn't exist.	0:14:39	0:14:43
-I don't do as much as I did -but try to do as little as possible.	0:14:44	0:14:48
-Why do you do as little as possible?	0:14:49	0:14:51
-I've just got other things to do.	0:14:51	0:14:55
-I'm enjoying my life -doing various things.	0:14:55	0:14:59
-I don't go out that often -but I've got a garden again.	0:14:59	0:15:03
-You enjoy gardening.	0:15:03	0:15:04
-I didn't do any gardening for 25 -years but started again last year.	0:15:05	0:15:11
-I've also got a grandson.	0:15:11	0:15:14
-We've got something in common. -How old is he?	0:15:14	0:15:17
-He's two years old.	0:15:18	0:15:19
-I spend as much time with him -as his mother is willing!	0:15:19	0:15:25
-Life is busy -and I think that's important.	0:15:26	0:15:29
-Yes, you keep busy.	0:15:29	0:15:30
-Do you still sing at all?	0:15:31	0:15:33
-I'm recording -and I still compose...	0:15:33	0:15:36
-..but I haven't -published anything yet.	0:15:37	0:15:40
-I compose and record at home -so I sing in the house...	0:15:40	0:15:46
-..but I don't perform publically.	0:15:46	0:15:49
-Would you perform if you -were asked to sing in a concert?	0:15:49	0:15:53
-I'd ask, how much are you paying?	0:15:53	0:15:56
-I'd ask, how much are you paying? - -That's a good question, Geraint.	0:15:56	0:15:58
-No, I wouldn't do it now. -I've done enough in the past.	0:15:58	0:16:03
-Is your studio in the house?	0:16:03	0:16:05
-Yes, and people come to see me -but I don't do as much as I did.	0:16:05	0:16:10
-It's wonderful that people can -record in their own home these days.	0:16:10	0:16:15
-All you need is a computer -and a microphone, Margaret.	0:16:15	0:16:20
-Have you heard about the computer?	0:16:20	0:16:22
-Have you heard about the computer? - -No, I don't know what it is!	0:16:22	0:16:24
-I am able to send emails.	0:16:25	0:16:27
-These days, -all you need is a computer.	0:16:28	0:16:31
-I want to show you a clip -that takes us back to the 1980s.	0:16:31	0:16:36
-You don't perform in public now...	0:16:36	0:16:39
-..so let's remind ourselves -of those days when you used to sing.	0:16:39	0:16:44
-# There might be a void between us	0:16:44	0:16:50
-# But I'm sending my words to you	0:16:50	0:16:55
-# Will you hear them?	0:16:55	0:16:58
-# Will you hear them?	0:16:59	0:17:03
-# Will you hear them?	0:17:04	0:17:09
-# Will you hear them?	0:17:09	0:17:14
-# Will you hear them? #	0:17:14	0:17:21
-Yes, well.	0:17:25	0:17:27
-And that hair.	0:17:27	0:17:29
-Thinking back to those days...	0:17:30	0:17:33
-..I would let people do my hair.	0:17:33	0:17:36
-That isn't true any more!	0:17:37	0:17:39
-You had a mop of hair.	0:17:39	0:17:41
-Yes, but I wouldn't have -done it like that.	0:17:41	0:17:44
-The make-up artists -know what is popular.	0:17:45	0:17:49
-Everything has to be fashionable, -such as the clothes.	0:17:49	0:17:53
-That's my excuse. I wasn't -responsible for that hair!	0:17:54	0:17:58
-I didn't see anything wrong with it.	0:17:58	0:18:01
-Your clothes were fashionable.	0:18:01	0:18:03
-Before your performance, I remember -chatting to you about your clothes.	0:18:04	0:18:09
-You were fashionable -and liked clothes.	0:18:09	0:18:12
-Yes. I've always worn clothes!	0:18:12	0:18:15
-The clothes were very fashionable -at that time...	0:18:15	0:18:18
-..and I must pay tribute -to the wardrobe department...	0:18:19	0:18:23
-..who found the clothes for me.	0:18:23	0:18:25
-I think I've still got -most of those clothes in the attic.	0:18:26	0:18:30
-I'll have to borrow them -if they give me another series!	0:18:30	0:18:34
-You also did -a lot of acting at one time.	0:18:34	0:18:37
-Have you done anything recently?	0:18:37	0:18:39
-Have you done anything recently? - -I'm acting now!	0:18:39	0:18:40
-We won't go there!	0:18:40	0:18:42
-No, I don't.	0:18:42	0:18:44
-Once again, you could get offered -a role that is suitable...	0:18:44	0:18:49
-..and you take it...	0:18:49	0:18:51
-..but I don't really -do a lot these days.	0:18:51	0:18:55
-I try to do as little as possible -because I've got other things to do.	0:18:55	0:19:01
-That's how it stands at the moment.	0:19:01	0:19:03
-Have you lost interest -in that world?	0:19:04	0:19:06
-No, I'd never say that.	0:19:07	0:19:09
-I haven't lost interest -in either singing or acting...	0:19:09	0:19:14
-..but my interests -now lie in different fields...	0:19:14	0:19:19
-..such as photography.	0:19:19	0:19:21
-Do you do a lot of that?	0:19:21	0:19:23
-Do you do a lot of that? - -Yes, I do.	0:19:23	0:19:25
-You can do all sorts of things -on the computer.	0:19:25	0:19:28
-It's just that I have -other interests these days.	0:19:28	0:19:32
-It's impossible to interview you...	0:19:33	0:19:35
-..without mentioning the best role -of your career in Teilwng Yw'r Oen.	0:19:36	0:19:42
-# Worthy is the Lamb -that was slain #	0:19:42	0:19:49
-It's been incredible.	0:19:49	0:19:51
-People still approach me to say they -play Teilwng Yw'r Oen at Christmas.	0:19:52	0:19:57
-We do it.	0:19:57	0:19:58
-It's surprisingly popular.	0:19:59	0:20:03
-It's great to be part of something -that is still popular.	0:20:04	0:20:08
-How long did it take?	0:20:08	0:20:09
-There are a lot of different -dance scenes and songs.	0:20:10	0:20:14
-There were different locations -within one song.	0:20:14	0:20:18
-It took a lot of filming.	0:20:18	0:20:20
-I think it took us about a week -to ten days to film it all.	0:20:20	0:20:25
-We were very lucky because -we had great weather that summer.	0:20:26	0:20:32
-We recorded it all in the studio -prior to filming...	0:20:32	0:20:36
-..because we mimed on location.	0:20:36	0:20:39
-It didn't take very long -but we were lucky with the weather.	0:20:39	0:20:44
-Everything worked wonderfully.	0:20:45	0:20:47
-The singing was brilliant.	0:20:48	0:20:50
-It was the perfect role -for you and your voice.	0:20:50	0:20:55
-Yes, but there were a few high notes -that needed altering.	0:20:56	0:21:01
-You've already mentioned the other -interests that take up your time.	0:21:01	0:21:07
-If you could step back -to the 1970s and 1980s...	0:21:07	0:21:12
-..would you do it all again?	0:21:12	0:21:15
-I've been very lucky -in terms of the people I've met...	0:21:15	0:21:20
-..and the opportunities I've had.	0:21:20	0:21:22
-There was Can i Gymru.	0:21:23	0:21:24
-Yes, that opened -a lot of doors for me.	0:21:24	0:21:28
-I was able to record my first -solo album as a result of it.	0:21:28	0:21:32
-I had a lot of other opportunities -so I've been very lucky.	0:21:32	0:21:37
-Out of respect for all those people -who have helped me...	0:21:37	0:21:42
-..I would do it all again.	0:21:42	0:21:44
-Oh, it's nice to hear that.	0:21:44	0:21:47
-I'd like to remind you of a duet -that will close this programme.	0:21:47	0:21:53
-First, my thanks to Geraint...	0:21:53	0:21:55
-..and thanks to Nerys and Charlie.	0:21:56	0:22:00
-Let's close with this duet -from the 1980s.	0:22:00	0:22:03
-It's I Recall A Gypsy Woman -by Don Williams.	0:22:03	0:22:07
-Goodnight.	0:22:07	0:22:08
-# Soft breezes -blow from fragrant meadows	0:22:09	0:22:14
-# And stir the darkness in my mind	0:22:14	0:22:19
-# Oh, gentle woman, -you sleep beside me	0:22:19	0:22:24
-# Little know who haunts my mind	0:22:24	0:22:29
-# I recall a gypsy woman	0:22:30	0:22:34
-# Silver spangles in her eyes	0:22:35	0:22:40
-# Ivory skin against the moonlight	0:22:40	0:22:45
-# And the taste of life's sweet wine	0:22:45	0:22:50
-# I recall a gypsy woman	0:22:50	0:22:55
-# Silver spangles in her eyes	0:22:55	0:23:00
-# Ivory skin against the moonlight	0:23:01	0:23:06
-# And the taste of life's sweet wine	0:23:06	0:23:11
-# And the taste -of life's sweet wine #	0:23:11	0:23:18
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