Pennod 7 Margaret: Ddoe a Heddiw

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-Hello and good evening to you.

-Welcome, once again,

-to my luxurious home.

-I'm looking forward to welcoming

-a very experienced Welsh actress.

-We'll also meet a young singer with

-high hopes of turning professional.

-First, I'd like to welcome

-a man from Cwmafan.

-It's the experienced broadcaster,

-Chris Needs.

-He's ready

-and waiting for me over there.

-Hello, Chris. How are you?

-Mwah! Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!

-That's enough

-or you'll spoil my reputation!

-It's lovely to see you again.

-It's lovely to see you again.

-

-It's beautiful here.

-Before I mention anything else,

-I must ask about your Sony award.

-What was it and when did you get it?

-It was quite a shock to receive it.

-I was working for an independent

-radio station in Cardiff in 1996.

-Oh, right.

-I sent a tape to someone

-for a random competition...

-..and I received a telegram

-to say I'd been nominated.

-It was in London's Grosvenor Park.

-I thought it could be

-a turning point for me.

-I won the Sony. It's like

-the Oscar of the radio world.

-I got a job with the BBC

-after winning the award.

-You won the Variety Club of Great

-Britain Lifetime Achievement Award.

-Yes, and I thought

-I was on my way out...

-..and that the end had come

-but it was very special.

-They asked who I wanted

-as the presenter of the award.

-I asked for Max Boyce

-and I got Max Boyce!

-He was so funny.

-I'm sure that when you receive

-a lifetime achievement award...

-..it conjures up

-an array of emotions.

-I know you were very close

-to your mother.

-Would you have liked her

-to be with you?

-Oh, don't. She was a great friend.

-You met Mam.

-You met Mam.

-

-Yes, I did meet her.

-When Mam met you, it was as if

-the Queen of Sheba had arrived!

-I remember her bowing to you.

-Your mother was delighted

-when you came to my studio.

-When you entered

-and headed towards the piano...

-..I remember that you slipped

-and fell at the foot of the piano.

-Let's see a clip to remind ourselves

-of that performance.

-# GOLDFINGER #

-Are you alright?

-Are you alright?

-

-Where are you? Oh, how are you?

-I'm good thanks, Chris. How are you?

-I'm good thanks, Chris. How are you?

-

-Goodness me.

-There's something wrong

-with the piano and that band.

-What do you think happened

-with that piano?

-I ran out of keys.

-The piano was too small.

-It was a cheap piano!

-I think you're an excellent pianist,

-Chris.

-You've accompanied many people

-including your friend, Bonnie Tyler.

-Yes, she's another special person

-in my life.

-I worked with her a long time ago,

-back in the 1970s...

-..and we're still friends.

-She appears on my programme

-every Christmas...

-..with a message for my audience,

-or The Garden as they are known.

-And she's still there for me.

-You just mentioned The Garden.

-Those familiar with your programme

-will know that The Garden is a club.

-I think it was more of an accident!

-When I started in 1996 or 1997...

-..I presented the late show

-on Radio Wales...

-..and I wanted to do

-something quite crazy.

-Something one-off.

-What does it mean to be

-a member of The Garden?

-They like the company.

-When it's the evening...

-..and you're on your own or ill

-or have lost someone...

-..there's a place where you can go

-for a chat and listen to music.

-It's important.

-It must help because

-you've been very ill recently.

-I knew something was wrong because

-I lost seven stone in eight weeks.

-Not eight months, but eight weeks!

-I didn't know what was wrong.

-The illness was caused

-by tablets that turned nasty.

-Had you been given

-the wrong tablets?

-I was taking tablets

-that were poisoning my own body...

-..and I couldn't walk.

-On top of all that, you also

-discovered that you are diabetic.

-Yes, I am now.

-You do a lot for charity...

-..and have been honoured

-for your fund-raising work.

-Do you mean the MBE?

-Do you mean the MBE?

-

-Yes.

-I remember the Queen and someone

-said, "Christopher Needs"...

-..so I walked to the front.

-You have to wear a hook

-on your lapel...

-..and the Queen

-places the MBE onto it.

-"Do they still listen a lot to

-the wireless in Wales?" she asked.

-"It's better than the telly,"

-I said. She was lovely.

-At Radio Wales, there's a photograph

-of the Queen and me.

-Someone has written underneath "Two

-queens in one room. Spot the queen."

-Do you like that? It suits me.

-You've suited me tonight, Chris.

-Thank you very much.

-Let's reminisce with another clip.

-Let's reminisce with another clip.

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-Oh, no!

-# I come from Anglesey

-# I come from Anglesey

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-The Majorca of Wales!

-# The family are quite fine

-# I come from Pwll-y-glaw

-# Dad drives a crane

-# She's one of the stars,

-they're all after her

-# But I'm waiting for the dole

-# Yes, it's true

-# But you're worth

-your weight in gold #

-Thank you.

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-Tonight's new talent is the

-classical singer, Rhodri Prys Jones.

-Welcome to the programme, Rhodri.

-You're a classical singer

-and are studying at the moment.

-I'm studying music in my final year

-at Trinity College.

-I also have lessons with

-Mary Lloyd Davies when I'm at home.

-It's a bit of a balancing act.

-I'm sure you've been singing

-since a young boy.

-I started competing

-when I was four.

-I don't think I've missed

-an Eisteddfod since that time.

-You must have a lot of trophies.

-You must have a lot of trophies.

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-Yes, and cups too.

-Mam still pushes me into competing

-but I enjoy doing it.

-She doesn't have to force you.

-She doesn't have to force you.

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-No, not really.

-Mothers need to be encouraging.

-Do you compete

-in the National Eisteddfod?

-Yes, I've competed in it a few times

-and got to know Elgan Llyr Thomas.

-He's doing well for himself.

-He's doing well for himself.

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-Yes, he won the competition.

-Oh, right.

-I won't say another word about him.

-I got to know him better

-in the past year.

-We performed in Macbeth

-with Opra Cymru.

-We toured Wales and performed

-in schools and for the public.

-I'm moving to London in September

-and hope to share a flat with him.

-I'm sure there'll be

-a lot of singing in that flat!

-Yes, but the neighbours

-might start complaining.

-You should charge them

-to come and listen.

-Like many others, you gained a lot

-of experience with Theatr Maldwyn.

-Yes, I owe a lot to Linda Gittins,

-Derec Williams and Penri Roberts...

-..and Mel Roberts, our dance tutor.

-I've had so many experiences

-since I was very young.

-We were taught

-to perform, act and dance.

-I'm sure it's been

-a great help to you.

-Yes, definitely.

-You're in college and looking

-forward to going to the Guildhall.

-What type of songs

-do you enjoy singing?

-I used to sing a lot of songs

-from the musicals...

-..but my voice has become

-more classical in recent years.

-I entered the musical competition

-in last year's Eisteddfod...

-..and the adjudicators said

-that it sounded too classical...

-..so I decided to stop

-singing songs from musicals.

-I do enjoy singing

-in different languages.

-I don't stick to Welsh,

-but sing in German and Italian.

-My current favourite has to be

-Vainement, Ma Bien-aimee...

-..by the French composer, Lalo.

-You'll perform more works

-like that in college.

-Yes, I hope so.

-Tonight,

-you're performing a Welsh piece.

-Who composed it?

-Who composed it?

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-Gareth Glyn.

-I think I know which one it is.

-Llanrwst.

-Llanrwst.

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-Oh, that's a wonderful song.

-It's been a pleasure

-to chat with you, Rhodri.

-Good luck to you

-in your professional career.

-Let's hear your performance

-of Llanrwst.

-# No twilight

-did over this commote flow

-# Without my enacting the dew

-# I know

-# Every yearning

-to render cool each dawn

-# And the verdant

-# Grass blades of mead and lawn

-# And no summer

-did through the keyhole thrust

-# Without my feeling grateful

-as well I must

-# Rememb'ring the lake

-twixt Geirionnydd and town

-# With the gold

-# Of the sunlight pouring down

-# Hills now part me

-from my old township grey

-# As the first-fruits of the summer

-cluster and sway

-# The bridge is bathing its feet

-in the streams

-# And young lovers still cross it

-# Lost in dreams #

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-Hello, again.

-At the start of the programme...

-..I said I would be joined by one of

-our most experienced of actresses.

-It's a pleasure

-to welcome Gaynor Morgan Rees.

-Thank you.

-We've been working with one another

-since the 1960s.

-The first stage production of yours

-that I saw...

-..made such an impression on me

-and it was called Saer Doliau.

-Did you see it at the Eisteddfod

-or when it was on tour?

-It was the tour.

-It's odd

-that you mentioned Saer Doliau.

-We opened at the Idris Hall

-in Dolgellau.

-It was winter and we had snow!

-Gwenlyn, the author, David Lyn,

-Owen Garmon and me...

-..were staying in

-the Golden Lion Inn at Dolgellau.

-We were waiting to do

-the dress rehearsal.

-Our van got stuck in the snow

-on the Crimea Pass...

-..and we did the dress rehearsal

-at midnight.

-Oh, my goodness. I'm sure

-you worked the following day too.

-Yes, we had to.

-At that time, there was

-a different venue each night.

-This was in the cold weather

-and I doubt there was any heating.

-Neither the dressing rooms

-nor hotels had heard about heating.

-You had to plead with them

-to light a little fire.

-It was very different to

-when I last saw you two years ago.

-It's actually been three years.

-Time flies!

-Olwen and I starred in Merched Eira.

-Olwen and I starred in Merched Eira.

-

-It was an excellent play.

-It had laughter and tears.

-Learning Aled Jones Williams' work

-is just like learning poetry.

-Every word has to be in its place...

-..or you lose the rhythm

-of the entire play.

-It has to be exactly

-as it was written on the page.

-This was a play

-starring yourself and Olwen.

-It isn't easy for a person of

-your age to remember all the words.

-It's very challenging

-for your memory.

-Yes, and I must admit

-that I felt very proud...

-..to be at my current age and

-to have learnt my largest role...

-..in terms of the script.

-I want to talk to you

-about Pobol Y Cwm in a moment.

-You appeared in the first

-ever episode of Pobol Y Cwm.

-I joined in the 1980s.

-I've got a clip of your appearance

-on my programme from 1986...

-..and we're singing about

-Pobol Y Cwm!

-# Hey, Gaynor

-# Hey, Gaynor

-

-# Yes, Margaret

-# Life would be bleak

-if we didn't have Pobol Y Cwm

-# If we didn't have Pobol Y Cwm

-# Listen to me, Margaret

-because I've heard a rumour

-# Maggie Post is leaving the shop

-to act in Dynasty

-# Maggie Post has packed her bag

-to act in Dynasty

-# Well, well, that's an OK idea

-# Imagine what it would be like

-if we all swapped places

-# Well, well, that's an OK idea

-# Texas, Rovers and the Deri Arms

-all in one place... #

-Thank you for your company, Gaynor

-but I've got to go.

-What's the rush? Stay for

-a quick jangle with a friend.

-No, I'm going on a trip.

-That's nice. Is it to Anglesey?

-That's nice. Is it to Anglesey?

-

-No, I'm going to Dynasty.

-# I'm swapping places with Joan

-# Well, well, that's an OK idea

-# Imagine what it would be like

-if we all swapped places

-# Well, well, that's an OK idea

-# Texas, the Rovers and Deri Arms

-all in one place

-# Imagine what it would be like

-# If we all swapped places #

-Oh, look at me there.

-It's a shame

-we have to grow old, Gaynor.

-Do you remember that episode

-and how much you used to sing?

-Erm, yes.

-I remember you singing

-in a Welsh costume...

-..but nothing but tights

-from your waist down!

-The BBC had letters of complaint

-about that...

-..because someone was showing

-their legs on a Welsh programme!

-It was 1966 or 1964.

-It was 1966 or 1964.

-

-Yes, it was very early.

-You attended a drama school.

-What was your first role

-after leaving drama school?

-The BBC gave me a contract in Bangor

-at the start.

-It was the early days of television.

-In those days,

-we rehearsed in Bangor...

-..and we were bussed to Cardiff

-to record the programme.

-We travelled down

-on the Saturday...

-..to have a dry run in the studio.

-We were all learning from scratch...

-..including the cameramen

-and soundmen.

-We recorded on the Sunday before

-jumping back on the bus to Bangor...

-..so we could start work on the next

-episode of whatever we were making.

-You had worked a lot

-before the days of Pobol Y Cwm...

-..but you were in the first episode.

-Yes, I was.

-At the start,

-Pobol Y Cwm was a series.

-It started with eight episodes.

-It then became twelve

-and it's now shown all year round.

-We've spoken about

-your acting work...

-..but you're exceptionally busy

-these days.

-Are you the mayor of Denbigh?

-Yes, I will be the mayor

-for a year from 3rd May.

-I'm currently the deputy mayor.

-It means you'll be the mayor

-during the Eisteddfod.

-What does that mean for you?

-I'll have to choose whether to wear

-my white Gorsedd robes...

-..or my mayoral chain.

-The robes are more comfortable

-than the chain...

-..because it's very heavy.

-What does the role of mayor entail?

-You're a representative

-of your town.

-I've already received

-the invitations for Llangollen.

-You visit Llangollen for the day...

-..as the mayor of Denbigh

-to represent Denbigh.

-You are expected to be

-a visual presence...

-..wearing the mayoral chain.

-There'll be more chains

-than public conveniences!

-I'm sure that's true.

-It's the same

-for the National Eisteddfod.

-Yes, and you're invited

-to everything in the town...

-..whether it's the morning,

-afternoon or evening.

-It's an honour to attend

-even the smallest of events.

-What will you be doing

-at the Eisteddfod...

-..outside your mayoral duties?

-One of the major events

-at the Eisteddfod...

-..will be the ceremony

-for the drama award.

-Thankfully,

-this has finally been moved...

-..from the theatre

-to the main pavilion stage.

-As chairperson

-of the drama committee...

-..I'll help to create

-some kind of ceremony...

-..that should be exciting

-and interesting.

-Other than all this work...

-..do you have any television work

-in the pipeline?

-My last television role was in Teulu

-and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

-I'm glad it was a success.

-Thank you for your company tonight,

-Gaynor.

-We're going to close with a clip

-of you using your Abercwmboi accent.

-There's a wonderful little twist

-at the end of the song.

-My thanks to Chris, Rhodri

-and you too.

-Until next week, goodbye.

-# What do you want on the mountain,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To break a branch,

-if I should live"

-# Why do you need a branch,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To beat my horse,

-if I should live"

-# Why do you need a horse,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To take me to Merthyr,

-if I should live"

-# What do you need in Merthyr,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To buy salt, if I should live"

-# Why do you need salt,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To put in my soup,

-if I should live"

-# Why do you need soup,

-pretty little bird?

-# "To put in my belly,

-if I should live"

-# What will you do with your belly,

-pretty little bird?

-# "If it wasn't for my belly,

-I couldn't live!" #

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