29/11/2015 Songs of Praise


29/11/2015

John Craven visits Chatsworth House as it gears up to welcome 100,000 Christmas visitors, and EastEnders actress June Brown reveals how her faith shapes her on-screen character.


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It's the first day of Advent,

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and on Songs of Praise this week,

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I've come to one of Britain's

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most majestic stately homes, Chatsworth in Derbyshire.

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For months now, the staff here

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have been preparing the house for Christmas,

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and I'm going to be finding out just how it's all shaping up.

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Today, they're preparing the Advent wreath for the private chapel,

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so I'll be getting a few tips about how to make one,

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and also hearing about the religious significance of the wreath.

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Meanwhile, David's in a very familiar part of London.

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I'm here on the set of EastEnders

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to meet one of the most famous Christians in the UK.

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Well, it's the vicar. He thinks I'm past it.

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Would Dot watch Songs of Praise?

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Yes. She would definitely watch Songs of Praise.

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And after more than 50 years of entertaining the world,

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the Osmonds reveal how their faith has kept them grounded.

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It started in church, and it will always be...

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That's where our heart is.

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Well, as it's St Andrew's Day tomorrow,

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we'll have music from both Edinburgh and Glasgow,

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and we've also got a special performance from the Osmonds.

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But now, on the first Sunday of Advent,

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let's begin with a seasonal favourite from Manchester.

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Nesting in the heart of Derbyshire,

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Chatsworth House is known to many as "the palace of the Peaks".

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It's the seat of the Duke of Devonshire,

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and has been home to the Cavendish family since 1549.

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With many of the 300 rooms packed with priceless paintings

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and sculptures and furniture, it's easy to see why it attracts

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more than 700,000 visitors a year.

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And in the run-up to Christmas, the staff are preparing for

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what's become their busiest time.

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Chatsworth has been opening its doors to the public

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during the festive season since 2001.

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And it's become an annual tradition for its tens of thousands of visitors

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to rub shoulders with some unlikely house guests.

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Janet Bitton is Chatsworth's head housekeeper,

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and along with her team, she's putting the finishing touches

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to this year's preparations.

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Lovely to meet you, Janet.

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When do you actually start planning for Christmas, then?

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We start planning it while the current Christmas is in progress,

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and we will start buying Christmas decorations

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in February of the following year for the Christmas afterwards.

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-So it's nonstop, really.

-It is nonstop. It's all year round.

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And I think every year you have a theme at Christmas time, don't you?

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Yes. We started in 2001 to try and get some revenue back

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from the foot-and-mouth disaster that year.

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Last year we had Alice in Wonderland,

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and this year we've got Toad Comes To Chatsworth - Wind in the Willows.

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So there's Toad and Ratty and Badger all over the place.

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Yes, they are.

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I think there's a special magic here at Christmas time, isn't there?

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There is. It's really magical. It's the most beautiful house anyway,

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but when you see it dressed for Christmas, the twinkling lights,

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it's lovely to see the visitors' faces,

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smiling and "Ooh!" - enjoying it all.

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Away from the house, in the vinery,

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I'm catching up with gardener Mick Brown,

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who's making an Advent wreath for Chatsworth's private chapel.

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Mick, I hear you're a dab hand at making wreaths.

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I've made a few, John. It's a tradition at Chatsworth.

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Every year, the Duke and Duchess like us to use natural produce

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from the gardens to make wreaths to decorate the house,

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-and the estate houses.

-And these are some of them here?

-Yeah.

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They are indeed. Those ones are for hanging on the doors,

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so we use Chatsworth ribbon for that.

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But right now, you're making an Advent wreath, aren't you,

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which is very different.

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It is very different. This one sits flat, it has five candles in,

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to be lit one a week up until Christmas.

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And this one's going to be made specially

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for the chapel here at Chatsworth.

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Tony, you're a local vicar just down the road from Chatsworth, aren't you?

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I am, I'm the vicar of All Saints Parish Church in Bakewell,

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about four miles away.

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So you're the man to tell me about the historic significance

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of the Advent wreath.

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The early Church wanted to use symbols

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to help people reflect on their faith,

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and the ring resembles the love of God throughout the world,

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er, a love that is ongoing and eternal.

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And the candles, er, they can be red or purple.

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Purple is the season colour of Advent.

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And the white candle lit on Christmas Day

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reflects the birth of Christ -

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light coming in to darkness.

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And over there, we've got another Advent wreath being created by

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Rachel and Sue. Rachel, do you do this every year?

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Yes, I make an Advent wreath every year

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as a reminder of the importance of thinking about Advent

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-and the preparation for Christmas.

-And what about you, Sue?

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How important is an Advent wreath to you?

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Well, to me it continues what we've been thinking about

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through the Advent season in church, and I too like to have

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a wreath on the table over the Christmas period, with the candles,

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which I like to light. It's a very important part of our worship.

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This is looking pretty good, now, Mick, isn't it?

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Absolutely - well, I hope so, John! It's nearly finished now.

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And Tony, sum up to me, what to you is the importance of Advent?

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I think it reminds us what Christmas is truly about.

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It's such a beautiful season, with the images, with the colour,

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the candles, the wreath,

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and of course the beautiful hymns and songs.

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MUSIC BOX PLAYS

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The weasel gang from Wind in the Willows add a certain something

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to the magnificent dining table here at Chatsworth this festive season.

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And over the many centuries, Chatsworth has entertained

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some very distinguished people, including Queen Victoria,

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who came here both as princess and as queen.

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And it's to another Queen Victoria that we turn now.

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The Queen Vic - the pub in EastEnders -

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and in particular, to one of its most famous customers.

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David has been to meet her.

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EASTENDERS THEME MUSIC

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I'm so excited to be here at the home of EastEnders.

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I feel like I know where I am.

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Over there, number 25 - that's Dot's house!

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-Damn!

-Language!

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Thou shalt not blaspheme.

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And the laundrette, her other famous haunt.

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God helps those who help theirselves.

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I shall just have to soldier on.

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And here's the Queen Vic, the famous pub in the heart of Albert Square.

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And the actress who plays Dot, June Brown,

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has agreed to meet me here in the Square to talk about

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her own faith and how it influences her portrayal of the character.

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Can you imagine if somebody had never seen EastEnders

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and said to you, how would you describe Dot?

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If you'd asked me that in the early days,

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I'd have said I don't really know, because she's an awful gossip,

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-and judgmental.

-Mmm.

-And she's very strict

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in what she thinks and what she doesn't.

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But over the years, I have to pretend that she's mellowed.

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And also, you see, to begin with, she was a woman who was on her own.

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I thought, well, she's lonely, so she's a hypochondriac.

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My back's really getting worse.

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And he had to take me blood pressure cos of me dizzy spells.

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You said she was judgmental. How would you describe Dot's faith then,

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when you started playing her, compared to how it is now?

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She was what I'd call a kindergarten Christian.

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You know, she just went by what they said in church, and the service,

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and didn't really think about it.

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But I have actually changed that, because of my faith.

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I twisted her to be more intelligent about it than she was, you see.

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Jesus...

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I know that you hung upon the Cross

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to take our sins upon yourself.

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But was it for everybody?

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'When somebody comes to you and says, "Here's the script,"'

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did you ever look at it and think, "She wouldn't say this"?

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Yes. They are very good to me, they are.

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They allow me to change it to Dot's language

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and I always rewrite the prayers,

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because people don't understand what prayer is.

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Well, it's the vicar. He thinks I'm past it.

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And he's right.

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I'm a silly fool.

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Christians on screen are generally quite extreme characters

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and not really three-dimensional.

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-No - they're funny, or stupid.

-Or stupid.

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And that's why I keep it as truthful as possible.

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Don't you go starting on about my faith!

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I'm just worried about you, that's all!

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I don't want you having one of your turns!

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When speaking on the subject of Heaven,

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does Dot think that she's going to Heaven?

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Well, I should think that is her hope.

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And are you...thinking of Heaven?

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Well, there must be layers of it, I think.

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That's what St Paul said -

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-"I was caught up into the seventh heaven."

-Yes.

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And some people who have been kind and generous and loving

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and forgiving all their lives

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will go to a better level than those who just tried.

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I'm one of the ones who just tried.

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I don't think that's the case at all!

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When people meet you on the street, how do they respond?

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Well, they're very friendly.

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-It's not so much the autograph now, it's the selfie.

-Yes.

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-So you do a lot of selfies?

-I do a lot of selfies, yeah.

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Just a question, a personal question on my part.

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Would Dot watch Songs of Praise?

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Yes, she would definitely watch Songs of Praise.

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And she would go to Communion in the morning.

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APPLAUSE

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MUSIC BOX PLAYS

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Later in the programme, we're going to be meeting a pop group family

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who've been wowing audiences for more than 50 years - the Osmonds.

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Diane-Louise Jordan will be finding out how their faith

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has been helping them to keep their feet on the ground.

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And while I take a bit of a break now with Badger,

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here's some more music, and as it's St Andrew's Day tomorrow,

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it's coming from Edinburgh. More tea?

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Back in 1972, in the early days of Newsround,

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I reported on an American pop group that was taking Britain by storm.

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And they're still going strong.

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Diane-Louise Jordan has been catching up with the Osmonds.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy and his group.

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# I want some red roses... #

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Starting young on the Andy Williams Show,

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the Osmonds have been in showbusiness for over 50 years,

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but throughout it all, their devout Mormon faith

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has kept their feet firmly on the ground.

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# Don't love me for fun, girl

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# Let me be the one... #

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They're going back to where it all began

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on their latest visit to the UK.

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We're here to celebrate Christmas!

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It's the most wonderful time of the year, to quote a friend of ours.

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And that friend is Andy Williams.

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He's the one that started it off for us,

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and he empowered us before he passed away to keep his tradition alive,

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and it's been such an honour.

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People come from all over the world to see this show in America,

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and this is the first time

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bringing it here to the place we love so much, the UK.

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What does Christmas really mean to you guys?

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Well, it's about our Saviour to begin with,

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and we as brothers and as a family

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understand - at least, we believe we understand -

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where it all comes from.

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What Christmas is truly about, and the meaning.

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So even though it's got presents and fun and Santa Claus,

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-all kind of things...

-He does this.

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..things going on, all of our families

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understand what it's all about.

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HE SINGS

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Our favourite is when we sing like when we started, you know,

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like in church, like, # I'll give my... #

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Wanna do it?

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# I'll give my hand

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# To those who cannot see

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# The sunrise or the falling rain

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# I'll sing my song

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# To cheer the weary along

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-# For I may never pass this way

-Oooh

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-# Again

-Oooh... #

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But we grew up singing songs like that in church,

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and, you know, working together for so many years,

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just jump into a number like that.

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To sing of Christ, and share our testimony

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of the value of a Christ-centred life.

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And that's what it's about for us.

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That's what has saved us, um, in a career...

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You know, we have every reason in the world

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to probably hate each other,

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and, you know, fall out, like most boy bands do,

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but because we've had a belief and a faith in God

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and are involved in something bigger than ourselves...

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HE SINGS

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..it's kept us and saved us from so many pitfalls

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that so many of our peers unfortunately have encountered.

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And I think when you have a focus and a direction in life,

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you can handle whatever comes your way. It stabilises you.

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And I think... That's why I think we're still together

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after all these years.

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It started in church, and it will always be...

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-That's where our heart is, you know?

-That's right.

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What are you going to sing for us today on Songs of Praise?

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Oh, we have something fun for you.

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We're...it's for you.

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# We're singing bye-bye, blues

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# We're singing bye-bye, blues

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# So listen - bells ring, ring Birds sing

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# Bye-bye blues, bye-bye! #

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-We're not going to do that one.

-We won't do that one.

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No, we're going to sing a song, again, keeping Christ in Christmas.

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It's a very famous song - Hallelujah.

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But we love the Christian lyrics,

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that a lot of people have heard,

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and we hope that it lifts people,

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and it gives them faith that it's all going to be OK.

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And it matters how we treat each other,

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and God's watching and he loves us all.

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# I heard about this baby boy

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# Who comes to Earth to bring us joy

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# And I just want to sing a song to you

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# It goes like this The fourth, the fifth

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# The minor fall and the major lift

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# With every breath I'm singing Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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# Hallelu-u-u-jah

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# A couple came to Bethlehem

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# Expecting child They searched the inn

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# To find a place For you were coming soon

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# There was no place for them to stay

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# So in a manger filled with hay

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# God's only son was born Oh, hallelujah

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-# Hallelujah

-Hallelujah

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-# Hallelujah

-Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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-# Hallelu-u-u-jah

-Hallelu-u-u-jah

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# I know you came to rescue me

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# This baby boy would grow to be

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# A man who'd one day die for me and you

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# Our sins will drive the nails in you

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# That rugged cross was my cross too

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# And every breath you drew was hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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-# Hallelujah

-Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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-# Hallelu-u-u-jah

-Hallelu-u-u...

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-# Hallelujah

-Hallelujah

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-# Hallelujah

-Hallelujah

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# Hallelujah

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# Hallelu-u-u-jah. #

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One of the jewels in Chatsworth's crown

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is its 17th-century chapel,

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which was inspired by the Royal Chapel at Windsor Castle.

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To learn more about its fascinating history

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and its religious importance to the Cavendish family,

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I'm joining up with Head Guide Shenagh Firth.

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Wow, Shenagh. What an impressive place to come and worship.

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Wow indeed, yes, it is, isn't it?

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This is the chapel, it's the oldest room in the house.

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Built in 1688 on the site of the old Elizabethan chapel as-was.

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So the rest of the house grew from here?

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This is where it all started, yes.

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And the most impressive thing here, the one that catches the eye -

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apart from your Christmas decorations! -

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is this magnificent altarpiece.

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Yes, it's pretty impressive!

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It's made from Staffordshire alabaster, and it's carved by

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one of Chatsworth's greatest master carvers, Samuel Watson.

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And what about these wonderful paintings round the walls?

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Yes, with all the paintings and ceiling paintings at Chatsworth,

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there's always some sort of political or religious message,

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and this one's no different.

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This is Christ healing the sick on the north wall here,

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and it's a direct reference to

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the restoration of the nation's religious health

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after the removal of King James II from the English throne,

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to be replaced by William III.

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-I can see that up there, there's a gallery.

-There is.

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That gallery would have been for the family originally.

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From day one, prayers were said in here every day.

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-So who was down here?

-This was the staff.

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The household staff would have been in the main body,

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men on one side, women on the other,

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and the family would have worshipped from the gallery.

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They had their own chaplain,

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and daily prayers right up to the First World War.

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And what do visitors say when they come in and see this chapel?

0:27:280:27:32

Er, they do tend to come in and be quite awe-struck by it,

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and I quite often walk through here

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in the afternoons when it's a bit quieter

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and you'll find people sitting on the bench at the back there

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and they're just having a minute of peace and quiet.

0:27:420:27:45

-Bit of contemplation.

-That's right, yeah.

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Well, the chapel looks almost perfect for the start of Advent.

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But there's still room for one final touch.

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And here comes Mick with the Advent wreath!

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That looks great, Mick, doesn't it?

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-What do you think, Shenagh?

-Looks fantastic, Mick, good job!

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If you'd like to put it on there, Mick.

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There we go. And the white one in the middle, for Christmas Day.

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And I'll light the first candle for the first week of Advent.

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And that's all from Chatsworth on the first Sunday of Advent.

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And let's end the programme

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with a wonderful hymn from Leicester Cathedral - Tell Out My Soul.

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Bye for now.

0:31:270:31:29

John Craven visits Chatsworth House in Derbyshire as it gears up to welcome 100,000 Christmas visitors, and EastEnders actress June Brown reveals how her faith shapes her on-screen character Dot Branning.


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