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This week, we've crossed the Irish Sea, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
to Croagh Patrick in County Mayo on the west coast of Ireland, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
to join thousands of pilgrims | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
as they make their way up to the peak 700 metres above us. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Welcome to Songs Of Praise. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
On the programme this week, I discover the origins | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
of this historic annual pilgrimage and the legend of St Patrick. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
30 miles inland, Sean Fletcher explores the revered Knock Shrine, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
visited by 1.5 million people every year. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
There's an interaction, there's a connectivity. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
This is a special, unique, sacred place where people can come. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
And I find out about the Celtic Christian who became a Pirate Queen. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
Croagh Patrick, known as Ireland's Holy Mountain, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
rises high above the west coast of Ireland. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
Six miles from the town of Westport, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
its summit commands views of Clew Bay and onto the Atlantic Ocean. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
For over 800 years, pilgrims have been making their way | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
up this mountain, named after the patron saint of Ireland, St Patrick. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
And I'm about to join them. But first, our opening hymn today | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
comes from St Colmcille's in Holywood near Belfast. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
And its message is about appreciating the simple things in life. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Each year, on the last Sunday of July, known as Reek Sunday, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
around 25,000 people climb up this mountain in memory of St Patrick. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
But the true start is further inland. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Ballintubber Abbey was built in 1216 | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
and is traditionally the starting point for the pilgrimage to | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Croagh Patrick, which is 20 miles west of here. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Legend has it that in 441 AD, St Patrick spent the 40 days of Lent | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
fasting on top of the mountain now known as Croagh Patrick. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
On his journey home, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
he stopped at an ancient spring here to baptise converts. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Shortly afterwards, pilgrimages began. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
And this abbey was built on the site of the well in the 13th century. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
The abbey was built partly to serve the pilgrims. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
This was a place where they would get refreshments, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
they would have Liturgy, it was also a significant place establishing | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
pilgrimage as of a way of practising or getting in touch with Christ. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Because that's what pilgrimage is. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
It's a way of shedding what we have | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
in order to let God speak to us in some way. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Tell me about the elements of the pilgrimage. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
The first one is penance. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
The penance is not imposing something to make us miserable, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
it's to free us, to be free to love and to think. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
The second thing then is change of heart. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Going on a pilgrimage without change of heart brings no reward from God. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
People going on pilgrimage is different to tourism. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
If you're going as a tourist, you can select your own companions | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
and walk with the people you like, and ignore people you don't like. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
With pilgrimage, you include people. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Because that person you include that you'd like to exclude may be Christ. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
And the whole idea is to celebrate | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
because, you see, the pilgrimage up Croagh Patrick is | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
penitential in its essence, but it's celebratory in its expression. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
A traditional penance is to complete the pilgrimage barefoot. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Today, only a handful of people brave this, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
and each has their own reason for doing so. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I mean, might as well do something right if I'm going to do it. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
And since I've been over here as a student for about a year, I figured, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
why not take the chance to go up on Reek Sunday and do Croagh Patrick? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-How are they doing so far? -We're halfway and not feeling anything, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
-so we're almost there! -THEY LAUGH | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
Emma and Joe, great to see you on the mountain as well. Is this the first time without shoes for you? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
I've done it once before when I was younger, in school. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
It's Joe's first time doing it barefoot. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-And how are you finding it, Joe? -It's not too bad. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
A bit rough at the start, all right, but once you get used to it, sure, it's grand. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
And, spiritually, what do you get out of it? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Well, we try to get to Mass at the top to kind of make it worthwhile. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
It's just that everyone's kind of united in it. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
And all doing it for their own purpose, I suppose. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
It's powerful, like. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
You look down and see all the people on the way up. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
It's a good achievement, like, when you get to the top. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
We're off to Tideswell in Derbyshire for our next hymn. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Written by Irish songwriter Cecil Frances Alexander, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
it's a celebration of God's creation. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Croagh Patrick isn't the only place | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
pilgrims flock to in this part of Ireland. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Every year, 1.5 million people visit Knock Shrine, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
and it's so popular that they even built the airport next to it | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
to cope with the number of visitors. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Sean Fletcher has been along to find out more. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
In the middle of this tiny village, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
with a population of less than 1,000 people, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
is one of the most spectacular sights in Ireland. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
This is no ordinary parish church. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
The village of Knock is 30 miles east of Croagh Patrick and the | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
shrine and the neighbouring basilica dominate the landscape around here. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
I'm joined by Father Richard Gibbons to find out what | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
happened in the 19th century that led to this tiny village | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
becoming a place of worldwide pilgrimage. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Father Richard, tell us what's happening here. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Well, this represents the apparition | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
that occurred on the 21st of August, 1879. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
A rainy evening - surprise, surprise! | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
At eight o'clock in the evening, some people saw a bright light at | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
the gable end of the parish church, which is what you're in front of | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-here. -So this was outside. -This whole area was outside. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
And they saw, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
it was identified as Our Lady, St Joseph, St John the Evangelist, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
and right at the centre of the apparition itself was the altar, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
the lamb and the cross, surrounded by what was seen to be angels. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
The apparition lasted two hours. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
There are 15 official testimonies from the local parish here. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
And this is what they would have seen. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
This is exactly what they would have seen | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
because the apparition lasted for so long, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
they were able to examine it in absolute minute detail. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
So people got to hear about it, it was reported in the newspapers, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
and people just started coming then. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
In fact, there were pilgrimages from Canada | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
and Australia within a year or two. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Of course, immediately after the apparition, there were many | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
testimonies as to miracles that would have taken place. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Cures and people that said that they would have | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
received their sight again and that kind of thing. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
But you do see very old photographs with the wall here festooned | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
with sticks and crutches and all of that, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
as a testimony to people who would have perhaps received a cure. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Next-door to the shrine is this remarkable basilica. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Built in 1976, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
it's recently undergone a massive refurbishment, in the hope | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
that Pope Francis will visit on his trip to Ireland next year. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Well, it's an amazing place, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
but there's one thing you just can't miss and it's up there. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
That's the mosaic. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
It's one of the largest single pieces of mosaic on a single | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
flat surface in Europe. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
It depicts the apparition, of course, of 1879. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
And what we incorporated, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
which hasn't been really done before, are all the witnesses | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
that came out on the evening of the apparition itself. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
These were people that came from various different | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
parts of the village to see the light at the gable end. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
-What I really like is the rain. -Yes. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
It's coming in at an angle, isn't it? Almost horizontal. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Irish rain gets you, no matter where you go! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Since we have refurbished the basilica, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
we've seen people simply coming in, sitting down, contemplating | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
the mosaic, and reflecting on what Knock means to people. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
And that's what separates this from being just a tourist | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
attraction to being a place where people come as pilgrims. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
That's precisely the point. Absolutely. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
This is a special, unique, sacred place where people can come. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
There's an interaction, there's a connectivity, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
there's a religious dimension. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Otherwise, what's the point of it? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
And to celebrate God's Amazing Grace, performing in front | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
of Croagh Patrick, on Clew Bay, are Celtic Woman. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
# Amazing Grace | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
# How sweet the sound | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
# That saved a wretch like me | 0:14:36 | 0:14:43 | |
# I once was lost | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
# But now I'm found | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
# Was blind but now I see | 0:14:56 | 0:15:04 | |
# 'Twas Grace that taught | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
# My heart to fear | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
# And Grace, my fears relieved | 0:15:17 | 0:15:25 | |
# How precious did | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
# That grace appear | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
# The hour I first believed | 0:15:37 | 0:15:45 | |
# Through many dangers | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
# Toils and snares | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
# We have already come | 0:16:02 | 0:16:09 | |
# 'Twas Grace that brought us | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
# Safe and thus far | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
# And Grace will lead us home | 0:16:21 | 0:16:28 | |
# And Grace will lead us home | 0:16:32 | 0:16:39 | |
# Amazing Grace | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
# How sweet the sound | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
# That saved a wretch like me | 0:16:58 | 0:17:05 | |
# I once was lost | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
# But now am found | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
# 'Twas blind but now I see | 0:17:18 | 0:17:26 | |
# Was blind but now I see | 0:17:36 | 0:17:44 | |
# I see. # | 0:17:48 | 0:17:55 | |
The islands of Clew Bay attract tourists from all over the world, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
who come to admire their natural beauty and tranquil setting. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
In the middle of the 16th century, one family ruled the land | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
and the sea around these parts, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
and their new young leader broke all the rules. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
What's unusual is that these islands were ruled by a woman - | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Grainne - or Grace - O'Malley. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
She was born in Clew Bay, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
the daughter of the chieftain of the O'Malley clan. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
And she took charge in her mid 20s. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Anne Chambers has written the history of this remarkable woman | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
and is meeting me here, at Grace's Castle on Clare Island. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
Anne, tell me, who were the O'Malley clan? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Well, the O'Malleys were one of the many tribes of Ireland, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
or the clans of Ireland, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
but the big difference between the O'Malleys | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
and most clans in Ireland were they were a maritime clan | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
and they controlled the seas off this coastline, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
off the west coast of Ireland. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
Tell me, how did Grace become chieftain? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
A woman could not become chieftain by right of Brehon or Gaelic law, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
but Grace O'Malley simply made herself a chieftain by bravery, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
by courage, by being successful | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
and by establishing her own little seafaring empire. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
And also, a little bit of piracy and plunder on the side, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
which was part and parcel of maritime life everywhere. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
This side-line earned Grace the title, the Pirate Queen. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Such was her confidence that when her son was held on grounds of | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
treason by the English Tudors, she took her case straight to the top. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Tell me about the time that Grace O'Malley famously met Queen Elizabeth I. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Well, in 1593, with the aid of some letters that she wrote | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
personally to the Queen, these two elderly ladies sat down, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
did a deal, Grace's son was released and, more importantly, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
I suppose, as well, Grace was allowed, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
with permission of Queen Elizabeth I, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
to go back to her former trade, as she euphemistically described it | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
as maintenance by land and sea. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Despite making a living through piracy, Grace had a faith, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and was baptised here at the abbey on Clare Island. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Grace was a Celtic Christian. Tell me about that, Anne. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
Well, Christianity in Ireland at the time of Grace's birth | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
was still, in theory, Catholic. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
But, of course, the Church in Ireland really had moved away | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
in many respects from the Church of Rome. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
For example, the clergy were married and, also, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
the Irish Church was not paying Rome its Peter's pence or its tax. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
Here in this lovely abbey, for example, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
the medieval wall paintings do not depict religious iconology. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
There are no images of saints. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
They represent nature, they represent myth and legend | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
and they represent aspects of the old Pagan past. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
The Irish Church could be said to have moved into a secular mode | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
during the time of Grace O'Malley. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
And how would Grace have squared her piracy with her faith? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Although she's known as the Pirate Queen, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
her piracy was very limited, really. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
It was limited to toll-taking. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
This was a very busy and, indeed, a very dangerous watery highway. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
And ships passing through this had to pass through | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Grace O'Malley's waters. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
So she imposed tolls for safe passage. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Very lovely to see her resting place | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-very well preserved here, in the abbey. -Absolutely. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
This is the traditional resting place of Grace O'Malley. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
And, as you can see, it was a tomb created for somebody of importance. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
She died in 1603 at the great age of 73 years of age, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
which, in the 16th century, was quite a remarkable age. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
And thousands of people make the pilgrimage here every year to see her tomb. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
And I think myself, it is a fitting resting place for a pirate queen. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Our next hymn is a favourite of seafaring folk | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and comes from Port Sunlight in Cheshire. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Throughout history, and in many different cultures, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
mountains are considered to be spiritual places. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Doug Scott was the first British man | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
to stand on top of the highest mountain in the world, Everest. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
And he spent many years since giving back to the people of Nepal | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
who helped him to achieve his dreams. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
But it hasn't been easy. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Sally Magnusson has been to Kathmandu to find out more. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
After summiting more than 40 mountains in the Himalaya, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
including Everest, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
Doug Scott set up Community Action Nepal in 1991 | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
to fund much-needed community buildings | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
in the mountains above Kathmandu. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
I got started reroofing a school and one thing led to another | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
and now we have about 60-odd projects. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Schools, health posts, porter rescue shelters, that sort of thing. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
But in 2015, two huge earthquakes hit Nepal. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
One of the charity's head teachers was lucky to survive. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Once he knew the children at the school were safe, Purna rushed home. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
They escaped already. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
It wasn't just Purna's school that collapsed. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
All of the charity's projects were affected by the earthquake. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
And Community Action Nepal was faced with a crisis. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
All the trails had been avalanched and were quite unsafe. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
And we were really struggling | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
until we came across MAF - the Mission Aviation Fellowship, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
which is a Christian organisation, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
going out of the way to drop supplies in the most obscure places. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
Other Christian charities helping Doug with the rebuilding work | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
are CAFOD and the Irish Catholic charity Trocaire. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
It's essential that all of us that are helping to rebuild Nepal | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
do build back better and put in the features | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
that are going to help buildings survive future shocks. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
What's been so heartening, it's the opposite, really, of being | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
crushed by this earthquake - I've only been heartened by the response. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
It's something else to go over there and see these people with | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
so little remain incredibly helpful. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
So we're getting a lot spiritually from them. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
We might help them materially, but they always give me | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
and friends of mine on expeditions a lot more back. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
After two hours climbing, and by now shrouded in cloud, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
we finally make it to the top. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
Here, the faithful are rewarded with an unique location for Mass. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
But how did our barefoot pilgrim couple cope? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
It was very spiritual. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
We were both doing it for grandparents of ours who we've lost. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
We're glad we did it now. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
It has been painful, but it was worthwhile doing it. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
We're glad we stuck it out to the top. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
It was fairly heavy rain when we were up there, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
but we feel all the better for doing it. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
We can both say we've done it now it's done. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
It should do us for a few years. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
In next week's programme, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Katherine visits the monastery on Caldey Island, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
near Tenby in South Wales, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
to talk about faith, poetry and modern monastic life. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
Josie d'Arby meets the man behind Angelicus, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
the choir which reached the semifinals of Britain's Got Talent, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
whose faith has helped him overcome personal tragedy. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
And there'll be congregational singing | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
from the sandy shores of Tenby Harbour. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Well, up here in the wind and rain at 2,500 feet, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
surrounded by all these people, you cannot help | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
but be impressed by their dedication to come up here and worship today. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
We're going to leave you now with the final hymn, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
but for now, from everyone on top of Croagh Patrick, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
it's goodbye until next time. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 |