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This week, we're back in Fife, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
as the ancient kingdom looks to the future. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
We'll hear about the faith of the scientist who studies the sun, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
and the love of the family whose son survived a freak accident, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
and we have hymns from Dunfermline Abbey and St Andrews University. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
If any threatening aircraft try to come near UK airspace | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
from the north, this is what they'll be met with. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
It's the very latest RAF aircraft, the Typhoon. But last month, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:53 | |
after much lobbying and discussion, the Ministry of Defence decided | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
to transfer the Typhoons to another base and hand Leuchars over to the army. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
The Kingdom of Fife is used to that kind of uncertainty. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
The coalmines, once a huge part of the economy here, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
have now almost gone. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
When they closed in the 1980s, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
thousands of people were left without a future. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
But today's programme is not about looking backwards, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
but with confidence, looking forwards, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
beginning with our first hymn, from Dunfermline Abbey. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
One thing I've found in St Andrews | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
is that there's a growing number of students asking | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
about what belief in God actually means. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
My name is Katie. I am studying theology here. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
I'm from the west coast of Scotland. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
I'm Alexandra Thornton-Reid and I'm from south Lincolnshire. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
I study theological studies. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
I love being in St Andrews. It's a great place to study theology. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
Obviously, it's very near to where John Knox preached his first sermon. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I'm actually studying just across the road from there. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
As a professor of theology, it's Alan Torrance's job to teach them | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
how to ask these questions. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Well, the hardest question for a Christian to ask, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
concerns the problem of suffering. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Two years ago, my children and I watched my wife die | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
slowly and painfully of cancer. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And, of course, there was the inclination to ask, "Why?" | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
But the question that was most significant at that time | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
was not the "Why?" question, but the "Where is God?" question. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
Because if God is there with us, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
sharing in our grief, and sustaining us through it, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
then the "Why?" question is something that can be left with God. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
We don't need an answer to the "Why?" question. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
And you found where God was at that time? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Yes, we had a profound sense of God's presence with us. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
That's not simply because one believes in the existence | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
of an abstract God, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
it's because of our conviction in the God of the Christian faith. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
The God who comes amongst us in the person of Christ, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
who suffered poverty, grief, loneliness, erm, despair. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:48 | |
It is that God, who by his spirit, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
comes to be present with us when we're going through the mill. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
And you went through the mill profoundly, after your wife's death? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
Well, I...I suffered a period of clinical depression. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
I coped for a... Coped quite well for a while, but then all of a sudden, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
the stresses and pressures got to me for a while, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
and I became very seriously depressed. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
We're a bit reluctant in society to acknowledge this. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Yes. One of the biggest problems in the Christian tradition | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
has been to see depression as a spiritual problem. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
Depression has to be understood to be | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
a physiological, chemical problem in the first instance. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
It's triggered by environmental factors, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
so, people leading chaotic lives, that may well lead to depression, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
but when the depression takes place, that's a clinical condition. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
And in this process of intellectual enquiry on the one hand | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
and personal pain on the other, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
how has your faith come through this? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Well, like every Christian, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
one has moments of enormous confidence and assurance, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
and at other times, wondering as to whether one might | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
be holding beliefs that aren't sufficiently warranted. OK? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
But generally, I'm blessed with feeling enormously enthusiastic | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
and confident about the Christian faith. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
The lovely old words of that last hymn | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
were set to a traditional Scottish folk tune, Rowan Tree. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Mixing the traditional and the contemporary, students in St Andrews | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
study subjects ranging from physics and astronomy, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
to psychology and international relations. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Eric Priest is an applied mathematician, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
and a world expert on the sun. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
He's been studying it for years, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
and has come up with all sorts of complex equations | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
to explain how it works. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
And these figures, then, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
this is what you spend your time worshipping? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
These equations are wonderful. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
I look at them, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
I play with them every day. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
You can never solve them exactly, but you can make approximations to them. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
In such a way that your approximation | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
is relevant for what you're looking at on the sun. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
You're a distinguished scientist, you're also a Christian. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
There are many people that would say that was...incompatible. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:46 | |
Not to me. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
I find science and Christianity complement one another | 0:10:47 | 0:10:53 | |
and they're consistent with one another. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
I don't know what you think the life of a scientist is like. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Do you think it's being coldly logical, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
in a white coat in a laboratory, with a blank face? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-That's what we're often told, yeah. -That is completely wrong. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
For me, science is all about creativity. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Imagination. Questioning. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
But it's also about proof, isn't it? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
No. Pure mathematics is about proving theorems, that's true, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
but that is only a very small part of science. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Most of science is about building models, mathematical models | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
that are consistent with the observations, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
the experiments that you're looking at. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
How does God fit into your model? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Well, there's a deep analogy here, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
because, as I said, science is about questioning, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
and when you do that, you realise how little you know, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
which give you a sense of humility, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
and it also gives you a sense of wonder. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Erm... And that, to me, is exactly the same as the life of faith. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
To me, the life of faith is a pilgrimage. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
I can never prove the existence of God, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
in the same way that I can never prove that these equations | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
are describing completely accurately what is going on on the sun. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
So, for me, the question is, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
"Is the existence of God consistent with my experience, or not?" | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
For me personally, the existence of God is much more consistent. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
So, I can't prove that God exists, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
but I'm prepared to live my life under the assumption that he does, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and that's what I mean by faith. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Faith is not absolute certainty, it's living with these questions. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
It's living a life of pilgrimage. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Our next song finds new words to express a very old biblical theme. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Forgiveness, acceptance, a new start. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
It's performed by singer-songwriter, Ian White. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
# When you pass through the waters | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
# I will be with you I'll watch over you | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
# When you walk through the valley | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
# I will comfort you | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
# For I am the Lord your God | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
# Who lights the way | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
# There's no need to be afraid | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
# Don't let the past keep holding you back | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
# Don't lose the dream in which you believe | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
# For I want to do | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
# Deep within you | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
# Something new | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
# When you're dry as a desert | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
# You can drink from me Waters rich and free | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
# When you need some forgiveness | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
# I will show you mercy | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
# And light a fire that will burn a brand new road | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
# It will show you where to go | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
# Don't let the past keep holding you back | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
# Don't lose the dream in which you believe | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
# For I want to do | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
# Deep within you | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
# Something new | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
# You can make a difference for a better way | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
# For living for tomorrow means making the best of today | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
# So turn the page and you will see | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
# Just how rich your life can be | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
# Don't let the past keep holding you back | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
# Don't lose the dream in which you believe | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
# For I want to do | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
# Deep within you | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
# Something new | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
# I want to do | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
# Deep within you | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
# Something new. # | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
The Navy may have pulled out of Rosyth | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
but Britain's two new aircraft carriers are still being assembled in the dockyard. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:03 | |
And with Fife becoming a centre of excellence for renewable energy, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
the demand is high for engineering skills. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Right in the middle of Rosyth dockyard, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Carnegie College is determined to create new skills, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
to replace the mining that was once Fife's biggest employer. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
It was devastating to see the community just decline | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
and then lose all confidence | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
in itself as a result. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Now, what we're seeing is young men and women from these communities | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
having optimism and hope and seeing careers for themselves. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
It's a fantastic thing to see. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
I feel that in my role in the college, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
I can create opportunities for people through securing the funding, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
through designing the curriculum, to create those opportunities, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
get people back into jobs. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
The youngsters around here, I can see they're talented and motivated, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
but that is the generation that could be lost. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Yes. These young men and women are very talented, as you say. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
Good Higher grades and have made a choice to step into industry | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
and develop those skills in a different way, through a different route. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
And it's great to see them flourish in that way. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And you believe this is a God-given gift, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-that this is where you should be? -Yeah, well, that gift, yes, is God-given. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
I've got a strong Christian faith, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
I've always been in or around my church. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
I'm very active in and around my own church. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
And my faith is important to me, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
because it's not always an easy job to do. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I do remember, we were training for mining engineers, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
only a decade ago, and the jobs were pulled away from them. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
My faith then comes into play, because what we did | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
was we found alternative jobs for all of those people. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
But my faith is bigger than that. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
My faith is much more about the whole job that I do, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
and the fact that working in the education sector is fantastic. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
# The Lord bless you and keep you | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
# The Lord make his face to shine upon you | 0:20:16 | 0:20:24 | |
# To shine upon you and be gracious | 0:20:24 | 0:20:31 | |
# And be gracious | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
# Unto you | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
# The Lord | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
# Bless you and keep you | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
# The Lord make his face to shine upon you | 0:20:48 | 0:20:56 | |
# To shine upon you and be gracious | 0:20:56 | 0:21:03 | |
# And be gracious | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
# Unto you | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
# The Lord lift up the light | 0:21:11 | 0:21:19 | |
# Of his countenance upon you | 0:21:19 | 0:21:27 | |
# The Lord lift up the light | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
# Of his countenance upon you | 0:21:34 | 0:21:42 | |
# And give you peace | 0:21:44 | 0:21:51 | |
# And give you peace | 0:21:51 | 0:21:58 | |
# And give you | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
# Peace | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
# And give you | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
# Peace | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
# Amen | 0:22:16 | 0:22:24 | |
# Amen | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
# Amen | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
# Amen | 0:22:33 | 0:22:40 | |
# Amen | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
# Amen | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
# Amen | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
# Amen. # | 0:22:52 | 0:23:00 | |
Kinghorn lifeboat is one of the busiest in Scotland, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
covering the commercial and pleasure craft using the Firth of Forth. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
It sees action around once a week, and its volunteer crew | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
have a target time from call to launch of just seven minutes. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
But there can be risks. Crew member, Alistair McLean, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
suffered severe brain injuries, when four years ago, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
he fell overboard and was hit by a propeller. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
The surgeon came up to see us | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and told us that he would be paralysed down his right side. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
He would lose the sight in the right side of his eyes, possibly the left. | 0:23:53 | 0:24:00 | |
He would have no speech and no comprehension. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
I did ask her... I said he would learn to speak again, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
and she said no, he wouldn't. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
That was a...a big shock | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
What was going through your head at the time? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
We got in to see him, after the operation. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
We were told exactly how everything was touch and go. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
It was very much, they were looking hour by hour | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
so, when we came out, we had a quiet area, and I thought, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:35 | |
"I'll sit down now and take the time to pray." | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
I thought, "I'll say the Lord's Prayer," and I couldn't remember it. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
Couldn't remember it. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
And the only thing that I could remember | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
was from earlier in the week, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
we were discussing favourite hymns, and my favourite hymn was | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
Father, I Place Into Your Hands The Things That I Can't Do. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
And that was the only thing that I could remember. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
So, I just said it over and over and over to myself. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
Cos it was all I could do, was place him in God's hands. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
And then something completely unexpected happened. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Alistair began to make steady progress | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
towards returning to normal life. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Although he can't crew the lifeboat, Alistair is once again, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
very much part of the team, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:30 | |
as he edits the pictures shot by the lifeboat camera. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
-Have you not got any? -No. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
When he had been at the hospital, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
they had no televisions in their bedrooms. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
They had to go to a television room. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
So, he'd spent quite a wee while without television. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
So, we had got him home, settled him into his room, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
and when we were all going to bed, he was watching, I don't know, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
some comedy programme, and he was just giggling. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
Just pure giggles. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
And I just said to my husband, I says, "Listen to that." | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I says, "You just didn't think you would ever hear that again," | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
his giggling. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
We thank you for the beauty and complexity | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
and mystery of all that we see in your universe. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
We thank you for the hope, that through all our questioning, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
you will find us, even when we feel we are losing you. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
We thank you for the bonds of love between family and friends | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
which carry us through the unexpected challenges which life brings us. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
We say goodbye to the Kingdom of Fife | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
with a great hymn of praise from Dunfermline Abbey. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
Next week, hymns and stories | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
inspired by a subject we all talk about - | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
the weather. Aled looks to the skies, with a cloud spotter, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
tries not to make it rain as he attempts a new instrument, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
and views planet Earth from a heavenly perspective. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
A good outlook for hymn-lovers everywhere. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
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