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Lesley Garrett is one of Britain's most popular singers. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
She's sung major roles in opera, performed in musicals | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
and starred in her own television series. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
Today, she tells me about her life and the importance of her faith | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
and chooses her favourite Songs of Praise. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Lesley grew up in a musical family here in Thorne, near Doncaster, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
and was drawn to the world of entertainment. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
"I just knew," she said, "that I had to sing." And she did. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Here's a sample of her vocal talents. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
MUSIC: "O Soave Fanciulla" from La Boheme by Giacomo Puccini | 0:00:37 | 0:00:45 | |
# He fills my heart with very special things | 0:00:45 | 0:00:53 | |
# With angels' songs | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
# With wild imaginings... # | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
# Oh, how my heart will dance | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
# When you caress me. # | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Welcome to St Edmund's Church in Leeds, where we have our | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
musicians and congregation, and most important of all, our special guest. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Lesley Garrett. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Lesley... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
-Lesley, I've got to say, you look absolutely stunning. -Aw, thank you. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
-Well, not so bad yourself. -Thank you very much! Especially on home turf? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
-Yes, it's lovely to be back in Yorkshire. -Well, listen, we can't wait to hear that voice. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
You're going to lead us in our first hymn. What is it? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Well, it's a hymn that's about praising the Lord | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
and experiencing the love of Christ through the medium of song, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
which is what we're all here to do. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-So it's My Song Is Love Unknown. -Fantastic. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Well, I tell you what, it's been a few years since we sang together. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
A couple? I think it was a chapel in Cardiff, was it? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-It's always chapels or churches. -That's all right by me. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
When little Lesley was growing up, was there a lot of music in the family? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Oh, are you kidding? We were the von Trapps of South Yorkshire! | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
There was always music. It's all we had, really. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
We weren't a well-off family, it wasn't a well-off area. South Yorkshire. Coal industry. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Most of my family were miners or welders or... | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
My parents actually both worked for the railways. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
My dad was a signalman, my mum worked in the ticket office. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
But what we all had that bound us together and still does was music. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
Because when we didn't have a telly or a record player, we always had a piano. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
It was a fabulous childhood, actually. Full of music. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
-And both grandfathers were involved in music, weren't they? -Yes. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
When I say it was a fabulous childhood, we didn't have a lot. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
We didn't have a flush toilet, for instance. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
We had ash middens in the back garden. Yeah, it was that impoverished. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
But we just didn't know we were that impoverished. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
But my grandfathers were a huge influence. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
My Grandad Garrett, my dad's dad, had a dance band | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
-called Arthur Garrett and the Blackout Boys. -Sounds great! -It was. He formed it in the war. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:39 | |
It went on forever. But I think my mum's father, my Grandad Wall, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
was my bigger influence. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
He was too weak to go down the pits with his brothers, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
so he was "put to the piano", as we say in Yorkshire. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
And in the early part of the 20th century it was the second | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-most reliable form of earning a living after mining. -Right. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
-Can you imagine a world where music is that popular? -Amazing. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
And he learned to play the piano and played for silent movies | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
and he was a terrific influence. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Well, we're going to hear you sing again now, I'm delighted to say. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
And another hymn. Lesley's chosen that lovely Irish tune, Slane. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
It's Lord Of All Hopefulness. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
# It's not far... # | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Lesley's stayed close to her Yorkshire roots. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
And recently she joined with a brass band | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
and two South Yorkshire choirs for a concert at Sheffield City Hall. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
It's an enormous responsibility, singing to a big audience, as I think we're going to have tonight. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
I think there's getting on for 2,000 people coming to the City Hall. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
And, when people come to a concert, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
they expect to be changed by what they hear. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
I think that's my job - | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
to make people cry if they need to cry or laugh if they need to laugh. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
# Who can explain it? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
# Who can tell you why? Fools... # | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
'For me, this kind of music making within the community is | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
'the foundation stone of all the great musical traditions of this country. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
'This is where it starts, this is where I began.' | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
# Some enchanted evening... # | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
I've got a very special lady here tonight, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Vivien Pike, who was my very first singing teacher | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
when I was at school, 16, 17 and 18, and it was through her fantastic | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
teaching that I got into the Royal Academy Of Music when I was 18. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Of course, I'm incredibly nervous about her being here | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
because it is probably 30 years since she taught me! | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
And I don't want her to think I've deteriorated. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
I'm very excited about singing Climb Ev'ry Mountain, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
though it's a huge song. People misjudge it at their peril. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
It's a really difficult song to sing because it literally climbs a mountain. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
And you've got to save and save and save, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
so you've got plenty for the end when you're on the top of that pinnacle. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
# ..dream. # | 0:10:28 | 0:10:35 | |
Let's take you back to the Royal Academy Of Music in London. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-You're only 18. Were you out of your depth? -Oh, totally. Totally. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:28 | |
Music and singing for me had always been a joyous hobby. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
And when I got to the Royal Academy, I found people who had been | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
through choir school and had fantastic musical educations. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
But also, you know, coming from Yorkshire to London, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-that must have been quite scary as well? -Oh, it was terrifying. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I really didn't do very well to start with and my dear mum | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
sent this letter, and I opened the letter, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
and a load of stones fell out on my feet. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
I though, "What's she doing, sending me rubble?" | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And I read the letter and it said... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
"I thought you might need some Yorkshire grit, so I've sent you some." | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
And how did the rest of your family take to you wanting to go to London and be a professional singer? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
Oh, well, my grandad had quite an interesting take on it - | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Grandad Wall, who taught me to play the piano, who knew quite a lot of opera. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
When I told him I was going to the Royal Academy Of Music | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and I was going to become an opera singer, all being well, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
he said, "Eh, lass, that's grand. I'm that proud of you." | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
He said, "I love opera. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
"Except for t'singing." | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
So I had a bit of an uphill battle there, but I think I won! | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Tell me why you love Bless This House. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
Will, Bless This House is a song I've known since I was a child. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And I used to think it was a lovely song about God blessing our house. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
And it meant such a lot to me for that reason. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I felt just very safe in that knowledge. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
But since I've become older, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
I've realised that in actual fact we're talking about God's house. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
And that made it even more special. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Well, I can't wait to hear it. Go and get yourself ready. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Lesley Garrett. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
# Bless this house, oh, Lord we pray | 0:15:15 | 0:15:21 | |
# Make it safe by night and day | 0:15:21 | 0:15:28 | |
# Bless these walls so firm and stout | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
# Keeping want and trouble out | 0:15:34 | 0:15:41 | |
# Bless the roof and chimneys tall | 0:15:41 | 0:15:48 | |
# Let thy peace lie over all | 0:15:48 | 0:15:55 | |
# Bless this door that it may prove | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
# Ever open to joy and love | 0:16:03 | 0:16:13 | |
# Bless these windows shining bright | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
# Letting in God's heavenly light | 0:16:30 | 0:16:38 | |
# Bless the hearth, a-blazing there | 0:16:38 | 0:16:45 | |
# With smoke ascending like a prayer | 0:16:45 | 0:16:53 | |
# Bless the people here within | 0:16:54 | 0:17:01 | |
# Keep them safe and free from sin | 0:17:01 | 0:17:10 | |
# Bless us all that we may be | 0:17:11 | 0:17:18 | |
# Fit, oh Lord, to dwell with thee | 0:17:18 | 0:17:26 | |
# Bless us all that we, one day | 0:17:26 | 0:17:35 | |
# May dwell | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
# Oh, Lord | 0:17:40 | 0:17:46 | |
# With thee. # | 0:17:46 | 0:17:59 | |
-OK, next, next. Hello. -Hello. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Lesley made her television debut | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
in the Bruce Forsyth Christmas Special back in 1989. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
And the following year sang at the Last Night Of The Proms. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Since then, she's starred in her own series, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Lesley Garrett Tonight and The Lesley Garrett Show. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
She's performed leading roles in numerous operas, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
sung duets with some of the biggest names in entertainment, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
starred in The Sound Of Music at the London Palladium | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
and appeared in the first series of Strictly Come Dancing. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
She did a little better than me. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
She came third with her partner Anton du Beke. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
So, you made that move from opera to musical theatre as well. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
Some purists say, you know, true opera singers shouldn't that. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
I know, I got into bother for that with the purists, but, for me, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
good music is just good music, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
whether it's a hymn or an aria or a wonderful show tune | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
or a piece of folk music. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
If it touches me, if it moves me... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
And how could The Sound Of Music not move all of us? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
And I had the wonderful honour of playing the Mother Abbess, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
and it was a fantastic spiritual experience | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
every night, when I put the habit on. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
And people laughed about the idea of Lesley being a nun. It was fabulous. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:27 | |
I just loved the simplicity of it, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
the peace that I felt when I put this habit on. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
It's a very special and very spiritual role. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I think it's time for another hymn. Now, this is a great hymn. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
I think this hymn is really about | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
anyone who gives service to the community, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
who loves their nation, loves this great country of ours. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-It's I Vow To Thee, My Country. -And you're going to lead for us. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
If you want to make your way to the microphone. Let's all stand, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
ladies and gentlemen, and sing this inspirational hymn. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
This is a beautiful, peaceful spot. Is this where you feel at home? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Oh, yes. This is very, very special to me. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
There's a tranquillity, a spirituality here | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
that I don't find anywhere else. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
I think it's probably very special because of its history. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
St Andrew's, our church here in Epworth... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
because it's been at the heart of the community here for 800 years. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
It's where Samuel Wesley was the rector and his sons then, John and Charles, developed Methodism. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:59 | |
And you know when you're there on a Sunday morning, do you find that | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
everyone's listening out for Lesley Garrett's voice? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Yeah, they do turn round a bit. "The noisy one's in! | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-"We might get a descant!" -They don't know how lucky they are! -Exactly! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
No, what I love about coming here is that I'm just an ordinary | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
member of the community. And that's, of course, what I am. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
And nobody treats me as anything special. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
They're all ever so friendly and want to know what I'm up to, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
but I just can be myself. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
You know, I can pop to the shop with my curlers in and it doesn't matter. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
Surely not! | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Most of Lesley's family | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
have continued to live in the area where she grew up. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
And she's a patron of a South Yorkshire-based charity | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
that's very close to her heart. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
It's a very special charity. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
I got involved with them when my Auntie Joan developed dementia. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
And the purpose of Lost Chord is twofold. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
We employ young singers and musicians | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
to come in to Alzheimer and dementia care homes | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
such as the one we're in today... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
MUSIC: "In the Mood" by Glenn Miller | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
..and perform for the residents. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
And then the second part is obviously what those patients | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
derive from the music. And it is extraordinary | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
when a person can't remember their own child's name, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
that you'll sing a song from their childhood or from years ago | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
and they will immediately be transported back to that time | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
and they will know every single word of that song. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
And they'll sing along with you and their faces will smile | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
and be full of energy in a way that they normally never are. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Music has this unbelievable effect on Alzheimer and dementia patients. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
And, of course, the musicians who are performing for them | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
derive an enormous benefit from holding the attention of such an audience | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
because you can be confident after you've done a gig like that that you can hold an audience anywhere. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
And also they derive enormous satisfaction from seeing the pleasure they give. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
So it's a fantastic charity and I'm very proud to be its patron. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
# But you'll look sweet upon the seat | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
# Of a bicycle made for two. # | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
# Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace | 0:25:22 | 0:25:32 | |
# According to thy word | 0:25:43 | 0:25:54 | |
# For mine eyes have seen thy salvation | 0:25:59 | 0:26:13 | |
# Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people | 0:26:18 | 0:26:31 | |
# To be a light to lighten the Gentiles | 0:26:34 | 0:26:46 | |
# And to be the glory of thy people Israel | 0:26:46 | 0:27:02 | |
# Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Ghost | 0:27:10 | 0:27:24 | |
# As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be | 0:27:25 | 0:27:37 | |
# World without end | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
# Amen. # | 0:27:47 | 0:27:54 | |
-That piece means a lot to you, doesn't it? -Yes. Yes. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
It's a very special prayer. It means a great deal. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
-Last year, it's fair to say you had a very tough year personally. -Yes. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
2013 was the hardest year of my life. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
I... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
lost both my parents and my oldest friend in a nine-month period. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:32 | |
And... | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
nothing like that's ever happened to me before. It was... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
It was really hard. Really hard. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
-Was your faith tested at all? -No. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
It was reinforced, I think. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
I don't know, I just sort of thought what my mum would say. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
She used to say to me, "When I go, it's because I've had my turn." | 0:28:52 | 0:28:58 | |
And that was what it was, I suppose. They just had both had their turn. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
Where do you think they are? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
They're here. They're in my heart. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
They're with me every day. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
And they're with my children. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
When I look at them, when I look at my kids, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
I remember again what my mum used to say when I had my babies. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
She said... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
"Now I know I'm immortal. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
"Because they're going to go on and have children of their own. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
"And those children that you will see | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
"will have a little piece of me inside them." | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
And they'll have music inside them because she inspires me, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
and my father, because they both had wonderful voices | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and were completely committed to singing in the community. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
And...they're in every song I sing. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
And they always will be. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
They had music inside them. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
And thanks to you we've had wonderful music inside us as well. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Thank you so much for just being you. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Lesley Garrett. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Well, unfortunately, we've come to our final hymn. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Don't worry, it's still your choice. What would you like to lead us in? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Well, I wanted us to finish today with a hymn that I've known all my life | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
that my mum cherished, and we had it at her funeral. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Even though it's a hymn about the end of life, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
for me it's a hymn that's full of great joy and great love and great optimism. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
-It's The Day Though Gavest Lord Is Ended. -Oh, lovely. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
My huge thanks to Lesley for her company. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Let's all stand, shall we, and sing our final wonderful hymn. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
From all of us here in Leeds, goodbye. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Do join me next week as I look forward to the Football World Cup. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Meet the footballer whose career-threatening injury | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
was miraculously healed. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
Plus a Catholic Mass with a Brazilian flavour | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
and favourite hymns from around the country. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 |