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Welcome to Songs Of Praise, on this Mothering Sunday. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
I've known some great mothers, my own and my wife | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
to name just a couple, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
and today I meet two extraordinary mums, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
the first right here in Brixton. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Let's form a circle! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
To keep her son's legacy alive, she became a boxing coach. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
Yes, a punching preacher! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
And a mum who's fostered more than 20 children. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Josie d'Arby is joined by comedian Milton Jones to discover | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
what Comic Relief is cooking up. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I'm getting wood, I'm getting onions... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
..which is weird, cos I didn't put any in. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
And it's also the fourth Sunday in Lent, and the Archbishop of York | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
finds out why one girl gave up all her savings to buy a big purple bus. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:52 | |
We have some lovely music for you today, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
and we begin with a hymn that speaks of divine love and human love, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
so perfect for Mothering Sunday. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Right, open your arms out, so... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Lorraine Jones is a mum with many talents. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
She has seven children and is a pastor in her church. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Three years ago she would never have imagined she'd also be | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
running a boxing gym. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
ROCK MUSIC | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Lorraine and her family live in Angell Town in Brixton. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
In the past, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
the area has had a lot of problems with youth violence | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
and, in 2014, Lorraine's son Dwayne was killed on the street. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
-This is my home. -Uh-huh. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
And there's all my children here. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
-And these are the pictures... of Dwayne. -Yes. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-20 years old. -Yes, yeah. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
That's so young. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
He was very fit. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-But very humorous... -Yeah, you can see he's smiling... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
You can see it in all his pictures, he's smiling. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
How did you find out? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I literally saw Dwayne 45 minutes before the incident. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I just popped to the shops, got back, unpacked the shopping. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
Two of his friends knocked the door | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
and said, "Mum, Mum, Dwayne's been stabbed." I said, "Is it serious?" | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
They said, "Yes, Mum." I said, "Do I need my car?" | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
They said, "No, Mum, it's just over there," | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
pointing just literally about five minutes from here. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Dwayne had seen a young boy that he knew being chased | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
by a man with a knife and had run to help, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
but he himself was attacked and fatally wounded. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
The place where he fell has been turned into | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
a memorial by the local community. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
The ribbons just bring me comfort. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
It's where Dwayne was tragically struck down, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
but it's a place that has become beautiful. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
What is it that held you together through this? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
I was helpless. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
But I felt a strong presence... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
of the Holy Spirit. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Peace. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
And it's like I shifted into gear, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
the gear of faith, strength and hope. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
God has held me together and is holding us all together | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
as a family and as a community. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Lorraine wanted to do something to preserve Dwayne's memory. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
-I didn't realise the extent of what he was doing until he died. -Yeah. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
He was working with the young people, doing the training | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and boxing, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
he was mentoring, he was motivating a lot of the young, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
young boys, especially those that had come out of prison. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
I was filled with compassion. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
And I said, "OK, I'm going to set this up again." | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
And the help came from... | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
all over. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Lorraine worked closely with the local police to set up Dwaynamics. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
It's a boxing gym for all ages, here in the heart of Brixton. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
It's like family here. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
And to help young people get off of the streets, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-I think it's really great. -I think she's amazing. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
She is probably one of the most inspiring people | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
I've ever met in my life. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
It's important, because children are our future. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
And what we invest in them is exactly what we will get back. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
She wanted to build better relationships with the police | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
and the community and she wanted to help young people, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
and that's what drew us together to try and do that. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Is it making a difference? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
I think it is, because once they're in here, they're working with | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
positive role models, including the police officers that give up | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
their own time to come down here and help. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
And then this leads to other things. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
What you're seeing here is what Dwayne had a passion about, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
to bring the community together in the midst of youth violence | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
that has been happening in Lambeth for many years. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Most of the young men and women on the estate refer to her as Mum, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
because she's seen as a community leader, so she's a mum to everyone. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
You've trained as well, haven't you? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Yes, in fact my whole life has taken a different direction! | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
I'm a qualified boxing tutor now, David. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-So you're a punching preacher? -Yes, a punching preacher! | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
# Shine your light. # | 0:09:24 | 0:09:25 | |
# Saviour... # | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Now it's time for the second in our series for Lent | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
from our very special guest the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
He's interviewed three remarkable women | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
whose faith he's found particularly inspiring. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
The Almighty has his own plan for us | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
and we all know he moves in mysterious ways | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
but, for one young woman, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
that meant giving up her savings to buy a big, purple bus. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
25-year-old Emily Finch has an indomitable spirit | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
and she's following what she believes is a calling from God. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Student Emily created a charity, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
enabling churches to build relationships with young people. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Instead of a church hall, this is a youth club on wheels. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
I'm...wondering in my brain, you know, what made you think | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
particularly that God was calling you and calling you to sink | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
-all your money into a second-hand bus?! -Yeah, it's so true! | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
I've had a lot of questions about that. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
I think a bus because it's mobile | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
and we're helping local churches do youth work. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-So, you spent all your savings? -Yeah. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
It was the money that my lovely parents put aside, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
probably to go towards a deposit on a house, or something like that. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Is it paying any dividends? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
It definitely is paying dividends. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
We've seen amazing things happen in young people's lives | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
and they say that the bus is like their second home. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Most of the young people who come on our bus aren't Christian, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
but the fact that we're Christians doesn't seem to bother them at all. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
They know that we're there for them if they want to talk about God, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
but also we don't have to talk about God. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
We love them wherever they're at in life. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Have you ever had experience of young people coming there | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and as soon as you start talking about praying, talking about God, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
they say, "Oh, my goodness!"? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Oh, all the time! Yeah! | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
But often they... they end up loving it. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
I think they love that we talk about the real things in life. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
We had a boy on recently and we were doing, like, a prayer activity, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
and it was listing the things that you are good at, your good | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
qualities that God has given you, and he said, "I've got nothing." | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
And so many of our young people don't believe they've got any worth | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
and it's such a privilege to walk alongside them | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
and show them that, in God's eyes, they are so loved | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
and they are precious to him. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
The theme for today is thinking about hopes... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
our hopes and dreams for the future. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
And so what I want to say is dream big, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
and I think all of these things, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
God has so much greater plans than we can imagine. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
The bus is the most recent thing that I've trusted God in. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
It wasn't going from no faith to suddenly being like, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
"I'm going to buy a bus," | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
there was lots of other things that I trusted in him. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Yeah, as they say, you know, little drops of water, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
if a lot of them keep coming, keep coming, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-eventually they will turn a water wheel, won't they? -Yeah. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I've seen people's lives change and that's been the most | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
incredible thing, to witness that, to just see God at work, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and that is the best job that I could ever have, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
so, yeah, it's changed my life. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
So, how do you see your future? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-A career in public transport maybe? -Ooh, um... I'm not sure! | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
At the moment, the charity is growing massively, | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
which is really exciting | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and I imagine I'm going to be doing the bus for quite a bit longer. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
HORN BEEPS | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
# Praise is rising | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
# Eyes are turning to you | 0:14:15 | 0:14:21 | |
# We turn to you | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
# Hope is stirring | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
# Hearts are yearning for you | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
# We long for you | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
# When we see you we find strength to face the day | 0:14:43 | 0:14:50 | |
# In your presence all our fears are washed away | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
# Washed away | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
# Hosanna | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
# Hosanna | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
# You are the God who saves us | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
# Worthy of all our praises | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
# Hosanna | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
# Hosanna | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
# Come have your way among us | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
# We welcome you here, Lord Jesus | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
# Hear the sound of | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
# Hearts returning to you | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
# We turn to you | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
# In your kingdom | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
# Broken lives are made new | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
# You make us new | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
# When we see you we find strength to face the day | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
# In your presence all our fears are washed away | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
# Washed away | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
# Hosanna | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
# Hosanna | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
# You are the God who saves us | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
# Worthy of all our praises | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
# Hosanna | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
# Hosanna | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
# Come have your way among us | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
# We welcome you here, Lord Jesus | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
# Hosanna. # | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Comic Relief was launched on Christmas Day, 1985 | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
and since then has raised billions, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
supporting projects across the UK and the world. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Josie d'Arby has been to one scheme being cooked up in Somerset. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
It's a cookery course run by Methodist teacher Jacquelene Seel, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
where it's only men allowed. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I think, uh, 170... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Morning, everybody. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I thought it'd be really good if we did something for Red Noses | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
and I've got some little red noses, look. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
The "Men Get Cooking!" classes have been running for 16 years | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and have grown after funding from Comic Relief. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
So, Jackie, where did the idea for "Men Get Cooking!" come from? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
My Methodist background means that really I want to use all my skills | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
for the good of everybody else, so... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
So why men only? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Some wanted to just dabble, they were maybe at a low ebb. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
For example, if someone was bereaved and they were maybe having to | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
get by on ready meals, and also, sometimes we had people | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
who suddenly found themselves in a situation where they needed to cook. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
Yeah, cos when you try and slice that, it's going to... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
My wife, unfortunately, has a few health problems at the moment. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
I've certainly taken on more of the cooking. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
And beyond the cooking, Jackie, what-what are people telling you | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
that they're getting out of it on a very personal level? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
It's so healing, really, just that humour... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-This is turning into the most perfect quiche! -That's looking good, Sid. It is! | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
We've all got stories and episodes in our life | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
-where we just need somebody to help us along the way, don't we? -Yeah. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
'As it's a Comic Relief project, look who's turned up. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
'It's comedian Milton Jones.' | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
-It reminds me of being in a sandpit. -Yeah! | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
-Do you cook? -Uh... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-You know Gordon Ramsay's a really good cook who swears a lot? -Yes. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-I'm like him, only I'm not a really good cook. -Now, why is that? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-Is it because you're a man? -No, it's because I'm incompetent. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
So what do you think about the fact | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
that it's more than about just cooking? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
I think, especially for men, who find it difficult just to chat, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
and it's really useful to have something that they can do | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
and talk off the back of it cos men aren't particularly good | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
at opening up and just being themselves. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
The big thing for me was... was packing in work. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
After 50 years of getting up and going to work all day, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
I suddenly stop, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
and the psychological adjustment I found very hard. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-Cos I never did much cooking. -Mm-hm. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
My wife usually did it and my mother wasn't keen | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
on being interfered with in the kitchen! | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
She was old school, you know, and you weren't allowed in. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
And do you think that it's important that Comic Relief, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
who fund so many things across the world, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
also recognise the need within individual communities? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
People are poor in all sorts of ways and often it's emotionally, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
and that kind of poverty is sometimes harder to see | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
than, you know, not having money or food. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
-That's really good, forming good clumps now. -Yeah, I'm a natural. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
For me, it's a privilege... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
as a Christian to be walking along their journey. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
If we can help each other along, faith and life, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
we're just all in the hands of God, really, aren't we? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
'With the quiches ready, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
'it's now time for the all-important taste test.' | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
I'm getting wood, I'm getting onions... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
which is weird cos I didn't put any in. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Wow, that was good fun. What do you make of that then, Milton? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Uh, it was great, wasn't it? | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
Seeing those old guys coming out of themselves. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
And what about for you personally, first time having a crack in the kitchen? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
It could be the beginning of something very big indeed. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
-Oh, I hope to taste the fruits of your labour, Milton. -Yeah. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Well, if you would like to donate to "Men Get Cooking!" | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
or any of the other fabulous causes supported by Comic Relief, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
you can do so on your mobile phone... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Like many mums on Mother's Day, | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
Jackie Meredith loves having her family around. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
As well as having three children and eight grandchildren, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
she and her husband Bob have also fostered more than 20 children. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
Seven years ago, Jackie and Bob received an unusual request. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
They were asked to become foster carers with a difference | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
and to take on three boys who'd just arrived from Afghanistan. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
'Back in 2009, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
'the two brothers and their cousin were aged between 11 and 12, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
'and they've really settled into life here with Jackie and Bob.' | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
-This is Ahmad. -Nice to meet you. -Ahmad, lovely to meet you. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Jackie, tell us, how did the boys come to be here? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Bob called me from home, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
he said he'd had a telephone call from the fostering people saying, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
would we look after some young asylum-seeking boys? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
And, to be honest, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
I feel quite guilty now because I didn't sort of know what to say | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
at the time to him, I was like, "I'm not sure about this." | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
And then, when we met the boys, they were so terrified, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
just small, young boys, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
didn't know where they were, didn't know who to trust, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
and they'd had a horrendous journey for six months | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
getting from Afghanistan... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
walking in the night to not being fed. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
However they survived, I'll never know. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
The boys' parents had sent them away to escape the dangers | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
of their war-torn country. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
They arrived speaking little or no English | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and with no understanding of our way of life. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
The culture, obviously, was very different. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
If you walked into the room they would stand up and we just... | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
You know, "You're at home, you don't have to, just sit down, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
"relax, this is your home." | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
And also, I can remember distinctly with Ahmad, with his trousers, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
his school trousers... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
I ironed them and I gave them to him with the rest of the ironing | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
and he gave them back and was like, "Not good enough." | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
And I realised, yeah, the creases, I hadn't done it perfect enough, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
so I did them again and he said, "No, not good enough." | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
And I thought, "This is going to go on here, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
"it's never going to be good enough!" | 0:24:57 | 0:24:58 | |
So I got the ironing board out and said, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
"You iron them how you want to do it." | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
And Ahmad said that back in their country, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
the mum and the sisters would be inside and they would iron | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
those trousers 20 or 30 times because that's... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
that was just the way it was. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I accepted that and understood it over a period of time - | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
we've just got to go slowly and understand each other, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
and obviously we moved on and we smile about it now. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
-And there were, of course, faith differences. -Yes, exactly. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Um, obviously, we follow our faith, our Christianity faith, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
and that's important to us in our life and our children | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
and our grandchildren, so we really respected how important it was | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
for the boys to continue with their faith, with being Muslims. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Having that faith there, you know, we're all human, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
we can all help each other, we all have our own beliefs, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
but at the end of the day, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
this is the world and this is all that we live in, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
and let's all make it one nice, happy place as best as we can. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-CHILD: -Daddy, look, here's some... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
There's a lot of love in this home, isn't there? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
They've done every single thing that a real parent would do | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
for their own child. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
They've supported us through school, supported us through, uh... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
Just learning the language, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
and they've always motivated us to go on and achieve and succeed. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
I'm so grateful for them. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
They've been like my mum and dad through all my time being here. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
Jackie has been an amazing mum. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
For me, being a mum, it's all really about making them happy, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
secure and loved, and I think then the child will just flourish | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
if you can provide all that and the empathy with it. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
This weekend has been a time for reflection and prayer | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
after the terror attack on Westminster on Wednesday. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
Aled Jones went to meet the Reverend Rose Hudson-Wilkin, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
who has close ties with Westminster through her role as chaplain | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
to the Speaker of the House of Commons. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
They met at Lambeth Palace, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
just across the Thames from the Houses of Parliament. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
I know you were at the Houses of Parliament | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
when the attacker struck. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
What was the atmosphere like there? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
The atmosphere... I think at first it was bewilderment and shock. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
We'd heard by then that someone had been hurt and I think we were | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
just hoping and praying that he or she would not have succumbed | 0:29:11 | 0:29:18 | |
to their injuries but sadly we learnt otherwise. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
A police officer lost his life | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
trying to save other people's lives. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
How do you reflect on his actions? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
PC Keith will have given his life, he's given his life for us, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:39 | |
for me, and I hope for all of us that we will not take that | 0:29:39 | 0:29:45 | |
for granted, but that we will do something positive with our lives, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:51 | |
that we will shine the light of goodness, the light of compassion, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:58 | |
the light of mercy, as we continue with our own lives. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
A lot of people also... | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
I've heard conversations on the news carried out, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
saying that without religion, maybe we'd be better off. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
You know, atrocities carried out in the name of so-called God. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Um, I think those people of faith... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
the Christian faith, the Muslim faith, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
or any other faith for that matter, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
those people of real faith would not do something like... | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
This is perverted, this is evil personified. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Do you have a message for people watching our programme | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
who have maybe been affected by this, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
or are watching at home frightened about the world that we live in now? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
Yes, I think my message to those who are watching this programme today | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
is not to be fearful. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
It's those words of our Lord Jesus, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
"Let not your hearts be troubled at this time. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you..." | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
And also, to say, do not allow someone who lived in a way | 0:30:59 | 0:31:06 | |
contrary to love to determine how WE respond. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
# Make me a channel of your peace | 0:31:19 | 0:31:26 | |
# Where there is hatred | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
# Let me bring your love | 0:31:29 | 0:31:36 | |
# Where there is injury | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
# Your pardon, Lord | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
# And where there's doubt | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
# True faith in you | 0:31:46 | 0:31:55 | |
# Make me a channel of your peace | 0:31:55 | 0:32:02 | |
# Where there's despair in life | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
# Let me bring hope | 0:32:06 | 0:32:12 | |
# Where there is darkness | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
# Only light | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
# And where there's sadness | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
# Ever joy | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
# Oh, Master grant that I may never seek | 0:32:28 | 0:32:36 | |
# So much to be consoled as to console | 0:32:36 | 0:32:44 | |
# To be understood as to understand | 0:32:44 | 0:32:52 | |
# To be loved as to love with all my soul | 0:32:52 | 0:33:03 | |
# Love with all my soul | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
# All my soul Love with all my so-o-o-o-oul | 0:33:05 | 0:33:12 | |
# All my so-o-o-ul | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
# Make me a channel of your peace | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
-# A channel of your peace -Oh! | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
# It is in pardoning | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
-# That we are pardoned -Oh! | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
# In giving to all men | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
# That we receive | 0:33:38 | 0:33:44 | |
# And in dying that we're born to eternal life. # | 0:33:44 | 0:33:56 |