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I hope you've got a head for heights. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
I'm climbing the bell tower of Paisley Abbey because, believe me, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
there's a view up here you've really got to see. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Wow, what a view! | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
You can see some of Paisley's grandest buildings from here, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
of the kind that still provide inspiration for people | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
living in and around the town. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
In today's Songs Of Praise we've got inspiring music too, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
and I'll be meeting some of the people most proud to be living in Paisley. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
There are the stitchers, making sure Paisley's past is not forgotten. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
This lady is in all her finery with her cloche hat and fancy wee handbag. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:54 | |
A world-renowned Paisley sculptor who's embarking on his work of a lifetime. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
It's a huge project. It will see me out. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
I'll be working on it until my dying day. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
And, of course, some wonderful hymns from a packed Paisley Abbey. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
People tell me that folk from Paisley are known as Buddies. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
It's such a popular term that Buddies is the nickname | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
of the local football team - St Mirren. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
There are plenty of Buddies from Paisley inside the abbey now, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
ready to sing for us along with people from the surrounding areas. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
They've all come together to raise the roof with some of our | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
best loved hymns, starting with Praise To The Holiest. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Paisley has many fine monuments, not least to this chap, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
the Reverend John Witherspoon. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
He was an evangelical minister who left Paisley in the 18th century | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
to go and run Princeton University and became the only clergyman | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
to sign the American Declaration of Independence. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
The statue was made by the internationally acclaimed sculptor | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Alexander Stoddart, who has been commissioned by the Queen | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
as well as making monuments that can be seen across the world. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Tell me about your sculpture. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
You stand here in this studio and you could be in any century, couldn't you? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
You could be in any century | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
because sculpture like this has been made for the last 2,400 years. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Personally, I've always found old, dead people | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
to be tremendous companions and they're seldom horrible to you. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Tell me about the Christ figure we've got there. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Well, this is a very small, what you call, a bozzetto. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
An Italian word and it means a quick study, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
modelled in about half an hour, maybe an hour, of a work that will | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
eventually go through bigger dimensions | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
until it reaches a rather heroic scale, bigger than life-size. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
What is it that's special about the pose as it is down there? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
You might just think it seems, as it were, domestic and occasional | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
with no question of the essential mystery of the New Testament, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
which is overwhelmingly brilliant. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
I read it every day. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
But when you turn the work you notice that it does feature | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
a very big, broad piece of wood lying horizontally. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
Then, in front of that broad piece of wood we see two hands... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
..significantly positioned. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Then, on the point of the base, two feet crossed. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
So, really, with this one has an intimation of the final | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
redemptive catastrophe in the story of Jesus, as it were, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
pre-figured in a domestic context. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Where does this figure, and where is it going to, fit in your canon? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
This is a figure that is to be accompanied by the 12 apostles | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
including Judas, which is a challenge. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
It's for a new chapel I'm helping to decorate. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
It's a huge project. It will see me out. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
I'll be working on it until my dying day. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
It's actually quite a profound object. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
This thing transpired out of my fingers, there was no real plan | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
and the central mysteries of the work transpired uninvited as well. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
When this happens, you know you're doing the right thing | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
because you're setting aside that vulgar thing called creativity. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
You're allowing that old-fashioned thing called inspiration to apply. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
You find that when you're inspired, your personality fairly withers. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
It's a kind of hypnosis and your eyes cross. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
And then you wake up two hours later | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and something is underneath your fingers, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
most of which you can't remember coming into existence. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
And this is the grail of artistic production. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Tell me why you don't sign a work like this. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I don't sign work that's religious. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
When it comes to something that represents a faith specifically, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
I don't really like to put my name on it | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
because I don't think it's appropriate. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
I always write Paisley, where the work has been made, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
because Paisley needs a good shout these days. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
This is the town I work in and love. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
So I always credit the town for the place. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
So creating this thing of beauty and of power, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
what does the person of Christ mean to you? | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
Well, gentle Jesus, meek and mild, is what it means to me. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
You know, rather than trying to leave the world a better place | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
it's our duty to try to leave the world a better man. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
If we could do that, all of us, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
then won't the world become a much better place? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
When it was announced that Scotland was going to produce a Great Tapestry, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
telling the story of the nation in panels | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
embroidered by volunteers, a group of Paisley women | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
was determined to ensure their town's rich heritage was included. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
We wanted to get a group of people together to do something | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
really worthwhile in the town. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
We put forward the Paisley Panel for that. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
We were given the theme of the 1930s. That's great. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Paisley's been a place where everybody comes together and | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
does things together, and we're all full of chat and that sort of thing. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
So we made it Paisley Patter, so we're doing the stitching | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and chatting and telling stories, and telling the stories about the mill. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
This is a woman who's going to Kelburne cinema in Paisley. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
It was on the Glasgow Road. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
It was built in the 1930s and this lady's in all her finery, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
with her cloche hat and her fancy wee handbag. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
I'm doing a St Mirren football player. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
It's one of Paisley's biggest features, St Mirren Football Club. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
It's one of the great things about it, everybody supports them even if they're not into football. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
It's really, really important that projects like this run. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
It's very much a community group and it's bringing people from | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
all different walks of life together and that's what Paisley needs. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
It makes me feel proud to be part of it. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
You know, it's going to be up in the Scottish Parliament and in 100 years | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
people will be able to look at it, and we'll be cutting up the daisies! | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
I think that'll have to come round a bit. I'd love to see that. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
My values are just try my best to be a good person, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
to do what's right. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
To help your town, to help your family, to help your friends. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
That's the Christian value thing. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
We're relying on good people who want to do good things. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
I don't know who's got the threader now. Thank you. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
To be part of something that's going to be the Great Tapestry of Scotland. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
It's all going to be sewn together, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
all the ones from every town or city in Scotland that are doing them. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
It brings the whole of Scotland together, really. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
We've all done a part in that whole tapestry. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Scotland is also rightly proud of its musical past. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
Now, Alistair Ogilvy weaves the words of a familiar Scottish hymn | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
into a traditional folk tune. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
# O love that wilt not let me go | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
# I rest my weary soul in thee | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
# I give thee back the life I owe | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
# May richer, fuller be | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
# O light that follows all my way | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
# I yield my torch to thee | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
# My heart it restores its borrowed ray | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
# That in sunshine fairer be | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
# O joy that seekest me through pain | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
# I cannot close my heart to thee | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
# I chase the rainbow through the rain | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
# That morn shall tearless be | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
# O cross that liftest up my head | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
# I dare not ask to fly from thee | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
# And from the ground there blossoms red | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
# Life that shall endless be | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
# And from the ground there blossoms red | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
# Life that shall endless be. # | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
When Grace Terry moved to Paisley last year | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
she had a broken marriage behind her and four children to support. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
She struggled both financially and emotionally. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
I felt very low. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Confused. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Depressed. I had nobody. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
Nobody to talk to. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
A lot has happened in my life and I'm just trying to pick myself up again. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
I had hope in God. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
That's all I had. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Grace's fortunes changed when she heard about a community group | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
whose doors are open to everyone. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
The project began when four Paisley churches joined forces | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
to offer support to people in their community. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
These are going to represent your own Star journey. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
The project has a Christian ethos. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
We symbolise that Christian ethos through the fact | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
we accept everybody who walks through our door. People are people. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
It doesn't matter if you are unemployed or employed, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
if you have a parenting issue, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
if you have an issue with addiction or a mental health issue, it doesn't matter. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Or if you're just somebody who's new to the area | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
and need to meet new people. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
So we actually serve everybody in the community, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
no matter who they are. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
The impression you get the first time you come in will tell you | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
if you're going to trust the people there or not. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
It was uplifting, I would say, because when I walked in | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
they were all welcoming and you sat down with a cup of tea and chatting. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
I met other people there, actually my best friend in Paisley. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
They've actually helped me with everything. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Support. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
Listening ears. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
They are always there, they are great people. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
I just always say they are God sent. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Star has helped me education-wise. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Parenting-wise. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Confidence-wise. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
You know, it's amazing. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
Star is a place where God's used them to actually bring me out, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
make me be who I'm supposed to be. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Tell me that when all hope is lost, it's not lost. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
My addiction completely had consumed every aspect of my life | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
to the point I was begging on the streets to feed that addiction. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
Steph Macleod was studying music at the prestigious | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Royal Conservatoire in Glasgow. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
But when his drinking spiralled out of control, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
he found himself on the streets. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I was very messed up. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
So aggressive. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
I'd get kicked out of the homeless hostels. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
I'd sleep wherever I could and it tore my family to pieces. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
What brought you out of that? | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
I found myself in a homeless centre run by the Bethany Christian Trust, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
which is a homeless charity, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
and the centre was geared towards men with addiction issues. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
They did a Christian recovery programme which... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
I just patronisingly nodded at first. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
I'd been to church as a kid but I didn't take it too seriously. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
But when I heard a guy give his testimony, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
he spoke about God in a way that I'd never heard before. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
About freedom and Christ. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
About breaking the chains of the life that had been killing me | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
and finding the courage to live the life I was supposed to. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
And I made a commitment that night and I prayed, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
and I just asked God for a life worth living. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
A real sense of peace overwhelmed me, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
an inner peace I hadn't felt since I was a kid. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
People are sometimes a bit sceptical about the nature | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
of that kind of very intense, emotional, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
transcendental experience you describe. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
I can't deny what happened to me that night | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
because I know I was full of rage and fear, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
and just utter despair about the things I'd done to myself | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
and to my family, my friends. And, er, to feel that sense of peace... | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
I prayed and God answered my prayer that night. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
I cannot deny that. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
After that you rediscovered your music. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Yes, I started writing songs in the centre about being homeless, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
and an addict and my faith. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
I was so blessed, my music was so very well received | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
and I use it to share my story and I believe this with all my heart, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
that God has shown me I can be a much better man than I thought possible. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
I'm blessed by that. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
# When I found Jesus he was holding on to me | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
# I was broken, I couldn't stand on my own two feet | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
# He said a word and broke my chains | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
# I was free to breathe again | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
# My life was saved by the love and blood of Jesus | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
# He was walking next to me | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
# On the lonely path of my mind, made destiny. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
# He must have looked into my eyes | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
# Saw the tears and heard my cries | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
# For where I stood, I was saved by the blood of Jesus | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
# Mm-mm | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
# The empty promises | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
# Of the world that had forsaken me | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
# Left me in the wilderness | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
# It was Jesus who rescued me | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
# He called my name | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
# And I would never be the same | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
# Just one touch from the king of kings | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
# Changes everything | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
# Everything | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
# When I found Jesus, he was heavy on my heart | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
# I was lost for words, I didn't know where to start | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
# All I know is I believe | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
# But more than that, I have received | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
# My sins were paid by the love and blood of Jesus | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
# He took the weight off my shoulders | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
# Came and gave me a rest | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
# Gave me peace from my troubles | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
# Lord, I have been blessed | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
# Lord, I have been blessed. # | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
Father, I believe you have a plan for my life. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
And I trust that you will be by my side always. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Christ Jesus, help us use the talents you have given us | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
to honour and praise you. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Help me to remember and respect your teachings | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
with a hope for a better future. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Because your love helps me leave dark days in the past | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
and look forward to tomorrow. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Amen. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
# O for a closer walk with God | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
# A calm and heavenly frame | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
# A light to shine upon the road | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
# That leads me to the lamb | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
# Return | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
# Oh, holy dove | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
# Return | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
# Return, return | 0:28:03 | 0:28:09 | |
# Sweet messenger of rest | 0:28:13 | 0:28:20 | |
# I hate the sins | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
# That made thee mourn | 0:28:24 | 0:28:36 | |
# And drove thee | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
# From my breast | 0:28:46 | 0:28:52 | |
# So shall my walk be close with God | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
# So shall my walk be close with God | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
# Calm and serene | 0:29:11 | 0:29:17 | |
# My frame | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
# So purer light | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
# Shall mark the road | 0:29:31 | 0:29:38 | |
# That leads me | 0:29:47 | 0:29:53 | |
# To the lamb. # | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
Up there in the right corner of the stained glass window | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
is Paisley's coat of arms, granted to the town in 1912. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
The mottos reads, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
"Lord, let Paisley flourish by the preaching of thy word." | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
And well into the 21st century this lovely abbey | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
is doing its best to keep Paisley flourishing. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Next week it's the Big Sing from London's Royal Albert Hall. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Join Bill, star guests and an audience of 5,000 voices | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
as he reveals the results of our vote | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
to find the UK's favourite hymns. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Tune in to see if your favourite is in the Top 10. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Everything to look forward to, on BBC Four. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Would you consider me a dangerous terrorist? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
You don't want to discuss politics with me. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Blues. Truly, it is not a sad music. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 |